KOJIMA: Pokes fun at the other Next Generation consoles In MGS4

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

[QUOTE="EnigmaticBeauty"]I hope that's fan made and not an actual ingame clip... because it's things like that ruin the game.EnigmaticBeauty

A small in-game joke is going to ruin a whole game that's been in development for years?

For me it does from a story point of view. Unless you're making comedy, references to the "real world outside the compounds of the story" destroys the story because it's got no place in it.

Um... breaking the 4th wall has been a part of the Metal Gear saga since Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake...

MG2: The OILIX data was hidden in an MSX cartridge

MGS: References to the Dualshock, Memory Cards, and Auto-Fire Controllers

MGS2: The AI Colonel tells you to turn off the console

MGS3: Foreshadows videogames and Home movies.

MGS4: Blu Ray disks

[QUOTE="EnigmaticBeauty"][QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

[QUOTE="EnigmaticBeauty"]I hope that's fan made and not an actual ingame clip... because it's things like that ruin the game.Lab392

A small in-game joke is going to ruin a whole game that's been in development for years?

For me it does from a story point of view. Unless you're making comedy, references to the "real world outside the compounds of the story" destroys the story because it's got no place in it.

Um... breaking the 4th wall has been a part of the Metal Gear saga since Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake...

MG2: The OILIX data was hidden in an MSX cartridge

MGS: References to the Dualshock, Memory Cards, and Auto-Fire Controllers

MGS2: The AI Colonel tells you to turn off the console

MGS3: Foreshadows videogames and Home movies.

MGS4: Blu Ray disks

and those elements ruin the experience for me on a whole.

[QUOTE="wv06"][QUOTE="New-Gamer"][QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="wv06"]

[QUOTE="xxastrocreepxx"]Its a reference to MGS1. How stupid do you have to be not to realize that? This really makes me wonder how many cows are hyping this because its the only great exclusive the PS3 has instead of actually being fans of the series.EnigmaticBeauty

How stupid do you have to be not to realize that if this game was ported it would take more than one disk (5 to 6 actually) on the 360. It is praising the new format and taking a shot at all others

The only reason why MGS4 is so big is due to uncompressed audio, most HD films are normally around 15 gb in audio, whereas only the other 5-10gb is actaully video

I love hearing the 5 - 6 disc fanboys. So incorrect, so silly. They don't understand technology at all.

Your saying your format which a smaller disc can play any game with a larger disc capacity, that is not true.. the DVD9 is outdated. I will never understand how some 360fanboys think its a good thing to have LESS space. Whether your format can or cannot run certian games the fact is with the Blu-Ray pushed to the limit the 360 needs multiple disks.

Bioshock 15 hours on a DVD 9.... Metal Gear Solid on a Bluray = 15 hours... conclusion... size of the disk matters not, quality of the game matters.

Out of mild curiosity, because the Xbox can do 1080p with it's games and PS3 only supports 720p for the time being, if Metal Gear was ported to the 360, it would look better, wouldn't it? Or have I misunderstood resolutions?

Second were assuming that these are new textures every level/cutscene, and Bioshock re-used alot of textures to save space (although they look sick) so you can't compare length of the game to filesize at that point....I mean in that sense you could say GTA4 should be the same size as LO...but it isn't.

Basically were at a crossroads. The new format isn't developed enough to warrant enough of an advatage over the new one to use it, but we are starting to see just a few of it's capabilities in gaming.

and those elements ruin the experience for me on a whole.

EnigmaticBeauty

i feel sorry for you, it what sweetens the games for all MGS fans

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]FOR THE LAST FU$*"NG TIME! This is mocking the PS1 if anything, it's making fun of the fact that MGS1 required you to switch disks.dream431ca

Link or not true.

MGS 1 had disc swapping, and was the only game when otacon and snake were together as such.....

[QUOTE="EnigmaticBeauty"]

and those elements ruin the experience for me on a whole.

Arjdagr8

i feel sorry for you, it what sweetens the games for all MGS fans

Also, you left out the first MGS, in which they tell you to look on the "package" for Meryl's codec channel.

[QUOTE="EnigmaticBeauty"]

and those elements ruin the experience for me on a whole.

Arjdagr8

i feel sorry for you, it what sweetens the games for all MGS fans

Yeah, she obviously has NO idea how deep the MG history goes.
Either way, this was just a fun nod at the Original MGS, and the FANBOYS here are embarrassing their lack of knowlegdge, especially the TC.

His TITLE shows how little he knows, and it was effective in SW. Sad, really.

ALSO, the PS3 has HAD 1080p Games since Launch. Her information is completely onsided.

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="EnigmaticBeauty"]

and those elements ruin the experience for me on a whole.

rcignoni

i feel sorry for you, it what sweetens the games for all MGS fans

Also, you left out the first MGS, in which they tell you to look on the "package" for Meryl's codec channel.

It's a reference to MGS 1FrozenLiquid

hehe but this isn't:

"Hold it Snake. Time to install the game. I know, I know... It's a pain. But you need to install the game to your harddrive for the next 30 minutes. You see the screen labeled "press X to install" ?

(from the previous thread)

[QUOTE="Lab392"][QUOTE="EnigmaticBeauty"][QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

[QUOTE="EnigmaticBeauty"]I hope that's fan made and not an actual ingame clip... because it's things like that ruin the game.EnigmaticBeauty

A small in-game joke is going to ruin a whole game that's been in development for years?

*image*

For me it does from a story point of view. Unless you're making comedy, references to the "real world outside the compounds of the story" destroys the story because it's got no place in it.

Um... breaking the 4th wall has been a part of the Metal Gear saga since Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake...

MG2: The OILIX data was hidden in an MSX cartridge

MGS: References to the Dualshock, Memory Cards, and Auto-Fire Controllers

MGS2: The AI Colonel tells you to turn off the console

MGS3: Foreshadows videogames and Home movies.

MGS4: Blu Ray disks

and those elements ruin the experience for me on a whole.

What? You didn't like the psyco mantis fight? The whole mind(memory card) reading thing? And in MGS2 when the Colonel tell you to turn off the console cause you've been playing to long! Those are ****C MGS moments.

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="EnigmaticBeauty"]

and those elements ruin the experience for me on a whole.

rcignoni

i feel sorry for you, it what sweetens the games for all MGS fans

Also, you left out the first MGS, in which they tell you to look on the "package" for Meryl's codec channel.

And Mantis looking at you and saying "hum, you like Castlevania, don't you?"

This all adds to epicness.

either way its funny, but its prolly a dig @ the ps1 and the 2 cds it needed. But it can be taken as a shot to the 360 because of the PS3 part and the way otocon says it.

Funny either way.

stay away from the comments -_-

you guys realized that THIS IS a spoiler right..?

[spoiler] this is the part where after Snake killed Sniper Wolf and asks for a disc swap back in MGS1, which IS in MGS4! ..and i'm sure you've seen the trailer where Snake thought he was having a nightmare about Shadow Moses [/spoiler]

hint: replay MGS1 and go to the part right before the game asks you to swap discs.

now look at the background of that video.....

dang the vid is no longer therejoker730

nevermind- http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/227251.html

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]why would kojima take a shot at a system he has nothing againist? X_CAPCOM_X

"360 is what goes around and does not change" - Kojima

Anyway, he was making fun of MGS1 and other consoles where disk switching is common. "We're on the Playstation 3"

MGS 1 had disc swapping.

Its enhanced brother on the Cube. Twin Snakes had disc swapping.

Another poster mentioned Kojima always has MGS games breaking the fourth wall.

"Look at the back of the package to find Meryl's codec number". I did not get it when I first played it. Went around the entire complex looking for that package. Only to find out it was on the back of the actual game box(package).

He immerses the player into the game.

:lol:

xxThyLordxx

Obviously, you never played MGS1.....therefore you actually didn't get the joke :|

Funny part is both arguing sides in this topic are missing the point.

Its in there as a joke for the old school fans of course, but I'm sure Kojima realized it would be misinterpreted as 360 bashing at the same time. With all the controversy over the years of constant port rumors I doubt he wouldn't know that people would jump to conclusions about it being a jab at the 360.