Kojima: ";Peace Walker and Rising teams are not good friends"

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According to Hideo Kojima, the two separate teams working on Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker and Metal Gear Solid: Rising "are not really good friends." In a GamePro exclusive interview with Kojima at GamesCom, the creator of the Metal Gear Solid franchise said the reason they are not good friends is because the Rising team has access to more money and is working with higher-end technology and hardware specs. "That's the one reason why they are not good friends," said Kojima.

Is the Peace Walker PSP team envious of the Rising team? Pretty much. "If you could imagine the PSP team looking at the Rising team," explained Kojima, "they have all the money and specs."

Kojima didn't seem frustrated with the competitive team dynamics; in fact it was quite comical to him. "It's interesting for me to see the team members act in this way," laughed Kojima, "This was never before because it was always just one small team. Now we are much bigger."

GamePro says that as long as no fistfights break out, a little competition never hurt anybody. You can read the final moments of our interview with Hideo Kojima below for his full thoughts on the inter-office warring. What's more is the cover story of GamePro's November issue is Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, and includes an update on Rising. GamePro Magazine subscribers will be getting their issues in a couple weeks.

How is the progress on Metal Gear Solid: Rising going?

KOJIMA: We're at an experiment level right now. We're doing a lot of experiments for Rising. But let me give you a hint at what's happening at KJP right now. I said this at GDC, as Kojima Productions, and for the Metal Gear Solid series as well, we always want to go to the next step beyond. And how we go up a step is really a big job actually. But what we're doing right now is making totally new, not just an overhaul, engines and A.I.s and things like that. Even the management and team formations that we have at Kojima Productions, we are changing this around. The core of it is, of course, the Rising team. So they're doing a lot of high-level stuff with great staffs. And that doesn't mean the guys who are making PSP are the **** staffs...it's not that. However, we have the core team who is doing real high-level experiments and alongside we have the PSP team, which are not really good friends right now, but in Kojima Productions and with Rising that is what's happening right now.

The reason why I say they are not good friends is because the PSP is working day and night to make it even better than MGS4, but of course they can't do it because of a lot of restrictions. On the other hand, the Rising team is using loads of money and loads of capacity and hardware specs. If you could imagine the PSP team looking at the Rising team saying, they have all the money and specs. That's the one reason why they are not good friends.

It's interesting for me to see the team members act in this way. This was never before because it was always just one small team. Now we are much bigger. So it's really interesting for me to watch the team right now.

So there's an internal competition between the two teams?

KOJIMA: Well, we are creating a trailer for PSP like crazy. We give our best and think we did great, it looks great. But when we look at the Rising team we say, should we really keep creating PSP? Because the Rising graphics are so high quality.

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#2 -Pred-Alien-
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His fault for not wanting to work on a 360 game:?
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Good, competition is always welcome.
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What in god's name is he wearing.
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Kind of arrogant and selfish.

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#6 Ragashahs
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i never quite understood why people are looking forward to MGSR considering the overwhelming majority of what made MGS4 great is on teh peace walker side there really isn't much to suggest MGSR will be good

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Is that duct tape on his shirt? Or did he just fall into silver paint?
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Kind of arrogant and selfish.

BioShockOwnz
How? :|
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What in god's name is he wearing.DJ_Lae

Sexy

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I found this to be funny, I'll get to play them both so they better compete hard with each other :twisted: :P
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#11 Nedemis
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Kind of arrogant and selfish.

BioShockOwnz
As always when talking about Kojima. The sad thing is that he's not even that impressive IMHO. The MGS series got away from him and the story became more and more convoluted with each game. It took him 4 massive games to tie all his loose ends and maybe 1% of that was done in game when the player actually had some control over his actions. Cutscenes don't make a game developer amazing people and I can't believe how many people praise this mans work.
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What in god's name is he wearing.DJ_Lae

Behold, Octocamo 2.0. Instead of blending it makes you stand out, reserve psychology. It's one of those ''experiments''.

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Kind of arrogant and selfish.

BioShockOwnz
Yeah it is, hes acting like they are getting the short-end of the stick when in fact its his allergy to the 360 that made him want to do a PSP exclusive.
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I don't blame him. He wants the ultimate machine to create the ultimate stealth action.Ain't getting thaton 360.

Which is why he's never really bother much with the 360 after all.

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i never quite understood why people are looking forward to MGSR considering the overwhelming majority of what made MGS4 great is on teh peace walker side there really isn't much to suggest MGSR will be good

Ragashahs
Im sure Kojima wont let anything with his name on it be th suck! Remember he stepped in on 4 because it wasnt looking that good when the others were doing it
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Lol he cannot pull off that shirt.

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Hopefully we get a proper MGS5 afters Rising.

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I don't blame him. He wants the ultimate machine to create the ultimate stealth action.Ain't getting thaton 360.

Which is why he's never really bother much with the 360 after all.

tonitorsi

Yes, and then in a moment of clairty he decided to totally neglect the PC because it's TOO powerfull, right?

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Good. that man needs a editor and a melodrama filter. the less kojima the better.
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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

I don't blame him. He wants the ultimate machine to create the ultimate stealth action.Ain't getting thaton 360.

Which is why he's never really bother much with the 360 after all.

CAPSROGUE

Yes, and then in a moment of clairty he decided to totally neglect the PC because it's TOO powerfull, right?

**Waits for cows to claim superiority over PC** Kojiam is a fanboy. He needs to grow up a bit.
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I don't blame him. He wants the ultimate machine to create the ultimate stealth action.Ain't getting thaton 360.

Which is why he's never really bother much with the 360 after all.

tonitorsi

You realize compared to high end PC's, PS3 and 360 are pretty **** right? Wait, your prob. a Cow that thinks the Cell has unlimted potential and has more power than a high end PC.

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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

I don't blame him. He wants the ultimate machine to create the ultimate stealth action.Ain't getting thaton 360.

Which is why he's never really bother much with the 360 after all.

CAPSROGUE

Yes, and then in a moment of clairty he decided to totally neglect the PC because it's TOO powerfull, right?

Then the last thing to call him is!!......

.......................

...........come on, say...I can't hear it :P

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Kind of arrogant and selfish.

-Pred-Alien-

Yeah it is, hes acting like they are getting the short-end of the stick when in fact its his allergy to the 360 that made him want to do a PSP exclusive.

Although he's actually a very hands on producer for the game.

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1) LOL 2) still getting both 3) PW should be for PS3 4) Kojima needs to work on ZOE3 5)I don't have a PSP :P
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Good friends or not, im still looking forward to Rising nonetheless :D

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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

I don't blame him. He wants the ultimate machine to create the ultimate stealth action.Ain't getting thaton 360.

Which is why he's never really bother much with the 360 after all.

After_Math

You realize compared to high end PC's, PS3 and 360 are pretty **** right? Wait, your prob. a Cow that thinks the Cell has unlimted potential and has more power than a high end PC.

Oh, my lordy lord. First time I've been called a cow. What's next? Im a lemming, a sheep? a lion? a seal?

:roll:

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[QUOTE="CAPSROGUE"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

I don't blame him. He wants the ultimate machine to create the ultimate stealth action.Ain't getting thaton 360.

Which is why he's never really bother much with the 360 after all.

tonitorsi

Yes, and then in a moment of clairty he decided to totally neglect the PC because it's TOO powerfull, right?

Then the last thing to call him is!!......

.......................

...........come on, say...I can't hear it :P

He's a Gekko. Irving. Moo-machine. I won't say it.

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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Kind of arrogant and selfish.

Nero_Paladin

Yeah it is, hes acting like they are getting the short-end of the stick when in fact its his allergy to the 360 that made him want to do a PSP exclusive.

Although he's actually a very hands on producer for the game.

Well its very much a ceremonial role so that his baby isnt ruined.

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Kind of arrogant and selfish.

BioShockOwnz
Agreed.
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The competition will push both teams to out do each other so it's a win/win for the consumers. At least that my opinion :)

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[QUOTE="CAPSROGUE"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

I don't blame him. He wants the ultimate machine to create the ultimate stealth action.Ain't getting thaton 360.

Which is why he's never really bother much with the 360 after all.

BoloTheGreat

Yes, and then in a moment of clairty he decided to totally neglect the PC because it's TOO powerfull, right?

**Waits for cows to claim superiority over PC** Kojiam is a fanboy. He needs to grow up a bit.

Or, because the game doesnt have a fanbase on PC :| Kojima is about servicing his fans, and his fans are on Playstation 3.

Also, Kojima is a grown ass man, running a multi billion dollar business. He must be teh fanboy.:roll: He doesnt give a **** whats going on, on some small secluded internet forum called systemwars, he has better **** to do with his time. Stop acting like everything these guys say and do is an effort to "Pewn" some 15 year old internet fanboy nobodies. Damn.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Kind of arrogant and selfish.

Dead-Memories

Agreed.

I don't understand.

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lulz at people here. the team behind Peacewalker is the original MGS series team. team behind Rising is a bunch of American devs paid by Konami which was paind b MS to bring the MGS series to the 360. of course, Kojima's team doesn't have a say since Konami is their boss after all. why dont they just make Rising an XBLA game and Peacewalker a full-fledged ps3 game? see what i did there? of course if you're part of the team that molded MGS to whatever it is today, and then suddenly this group of Western devs taking your logo then slapping it on an all-out a la shoot anything that moves gears of war kinda game who wouldnt get pissed off? i mean, if your parent company just wants to milk your game further, even when the devs didnt want to, they have no choice. i blame MS and Konami. Konami for the greed and MS for saving some face to jsut say that an MGS game came to the 360 at e3. total BS. at least all MGS spinoffs are stealth. besides, Kojima never really approved of the non-core games and those that his team didnt make.

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#34 G-O-M-J
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so kojima isnt working on rising?? awesome!
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I don't blame him. He wants the ultimate machine to create the ultimate stealth action.Ain't getting thaton 360.

Which is why he's never really bother much with the 360 after all.

tonitorsi
So he tries to top MGS4 on PSP and cries about the financing? Yeah, PSP has more chance. Did you even read above?
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Cry Moan Cry Moan, I hate Kojima cause i wish I was him!. You haters are jealous. lol
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="CAPSROGUE"]

Yes, and then in a moment of clairty he decided to totally neglect the PC because it's TOO powerfull, right?

TheArmyGuy48

**Waits for cows to claim superiority over PC** Kojiam is a fanboy. He needs to grow up a bit.

Or, because the game doesnt have a fanbase on PC. Kojima is about servicing his fans, and his fans are on Playstation 3. Also, Kojima is a grown ass man, running a multi billion dollar business. He must be teh fanboy. He doesnt give a **** whats going on, on this small secluded internet forum called systemwars. Stop acting like everything these guys say and do is an effort to get "teh Pewnage" on some 15 year old internet fanboy nobodies. Damn.

He is though, this is an odd move from a man who makes frankly unwatchable games to most people. MGS4 was fan service, fan service is just crap if you are not a fan, he seems to have this strance commitment to Sony that reads a lot like he is an insular fanboy.

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[QUOTE="CAPSROGUE"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

I don't blame him. He wants the ultimate machine to create the ultimate stealth action.Ain't getting thaton 360.

Which is why he's never really bother much with the 360 after all.

BoloTheGreat

Yes, and then in a moment of clairty he decided to totally neglect the PC because it's TOO powerfull, right?

**Waits for cows to claim superiority over PC** Kojiam is a fanboy. He needs to grow up a bit.

Kojima has hes preferences and he preferes to makes his franchise to PS3, konami hes screwing over to make more money and us fans get screwed over because the game dont come as awsome as they could be.

if i would get to be as good as kojima and get the name he got i woulndt like to be pushed around by the emplyers, that in the end should thank him for the money, kojima should just make his own dev studio e get back to its roots!

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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Kind of arrogant and selfish.

Nero_Paladin

Agreed.

I don't understand.

Sounds like the PSP team wants more funding for his PSP game, and upset that 360/PS3 game has more funding :| I mean 360/PS3 games cost more to make, so I don't get his point.
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#40 dragonfly110
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thats not a suprise, its just business, what is a company going to spend more money on, a PSP game or a 360 and PS3 one? Its kinda obvious...

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#41 CAPSROGUE
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Cry Moan Cry Moan, I hate Kojima cause i wish I was him!. You haters are jealous. lolCoreoVII

Yeah, me too. Just so I can wear that T-shirt.

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[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] **Waits for cows to claim superiority over PC** Kojiam is a fanboy. He needs to grow up a bit. BoloTheGreat

Or, because the game doesnt have a fanbase on PC. Kojima is about servicing his fans, and his fans are on Playstation 3. Also, Kojima is a grown ass man, running a multi billion dollar business. He must be teh fanboy. He doesnt give a **** whats going on, on this small secluded internet forum called systemwars. Stop acting like everything these guys say and do is an effort to get "teh Pewnage" on some 15 year old internet fanboy nobodies. Damn.

He is though, this is an odd move from a man who makes frankly unwatchable games to most people. MGS4 was fan service, fan service is just crap if you are not a fan, he seems to have this strance commitment to Sony that reads a lot like he is an insular fanboy.

Most people? MGS1= 6M, MGS2=7M, MGS3=4M, MGS4=5M and growing. Im pretty sure the people who hated the games are in the minority of those numbers;)

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#43 LeGoofyGoober
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What in god's name is he wearing.DJ_Lae


it's called a shirt.

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#44 SSJ_Nega
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Sucks that the teams aren't getting on, but I can see where he's coming from. While I'm sure Rising will be a fantastic game, I'm looking forward to Peace Walker more, and I'd rather have most of the resources go to that. The game could be so much better had it been on the PS3.

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#45 Nero_Paladin
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[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] Agreed. Next-Gen-Tec

I don't understand.

Sounds like the PSP team wants more funding for his PSP game, and upset that 360/PS3 game has more funding :| I mean 360/PS3 games cost more to make, so I don't get his point.

So the MGS4 team are upset about the situation and he finds it interesting to see there reactions? In what is that arrogant and selfish.

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#46 Giancar
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[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] **Waits for cows to claim superiority over PC** Kojiam is a fanboy. He needs to grow up a bit. BoloTheGreat

Or, because the game doesnt have a fanbase on PC. Kojima is about servicing his fans, and his fans are on Playstation 3. Also, Kojima is a grown ass man, running a multi billion dollar business. He must be teh fanboy. He doesnt give a **** whats going on, on this small secluded internet forum called systemwars. Stop acting like everything these guys say and do is an effort to get "teh Pewnage" on some 15 year old internet fanboy nobodies. Damn.

He is though, this is an odd move from a man who makes frankly unwatchable games to most people. MGS4 was fan service, fan service is just crap if you are not a fan, he seems to have this strance commitment to Sony that reads a lot like he is an insular fanboy.

What you are saying is sooo wrong? Frankly unwatchable games to most people? MGS4 a fan service? Do you have any statistical numbers or just anecdotal ones? :roll:
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#47 TheArmyGuy48
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[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] Agreed. Next-Gen-Tec

I don't understand.

Sounds like the PSP team wants more funding for his PSP game, and upset that 360/PS3 game has more funding :| I mean 360/PS3 games cost more to make, so I don't get his point.

He wants to push the PSP, and make a game of Console quality. Rather than making a "special" PSP spinoff, like say..........Daxter, or Secret Agent Clank.
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#48 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"][QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]

I don't understand.

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Sounds like the PSP team wants more funding for his PSP game, and upset that 360/PS3 game has more funding :| I mean 360/PS3 games cost more to make, so I don't get his point.

He wants to push the PSP, and make a game of Console quality. Rather than making a "special" PSP spinoff, like say..........Daxter, or Secret Agent Clank.

but those2 spinoffs were amazing, I mean maybe not Secret agent clank, but replace it with Ratchet and Clanks Size matters, and you got 2 console quality games...

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[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"] Or, because the game doesnt have a fanbase on PC. Kojima is about servicing his fans, and his fans are on Playstation 3. Also, Kojima is a grown ass man, running a multi billion dollar business. He must be teh fanboy. He doesnt give a **** whats going on, on this small secluded internet forum called systemwars. Stop acting like everything these guys say and do is an effort to get "teh Pewnage" on some 15 year old internet fanboy nobodies. Damn.Giancar

He is though, this is an odd move from a man who makes frankly unwatchable games to most people. MGS4 was fan service, fan service is just crap if you are not a fan, he seems to have this strance commitment to Sony that reads a lot like he is an insular fanboy.

What you are saying is sooo wrong? Frankly unwatchable games to most people? MGS4 a fan service? Do you have any statistical numbers or just anecdotal ones? :roll:

MGS4 was a convoluted mess, more cutscene than gameplay = Kojiam basically wacking his "WOR IZ BAD!!" BS off in your face. It was turgid, heavy and would be laughed at as a B-Moive if it were strung together into what it should have been, a film.
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#50 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"] Or, because the game doesnt have a fanbase on PC. Kojima is about servicing his fans, and his fans are on Playstation 3. Also, Kojima is a grown ass man, running a multi billion dollar business. He must be teh fanboy. He doesnt give a **** whats going on, on this small secluded internet forum called systemwars. Stop acting like everything these guys say and do is an effort to get "teh Pewnage" on some 15 year old internet fanboy nobodies. Damn.TheArmyGuy48

He is though, this is an odd move from a man who makes frankly unwatchable games to most people. MGS4 was fan service, fan service is just crap if you are not a fan, he seems to have this strance commitment to Sony that reads a lot like he is an insular fanboy.

Most people? MGS1= 6M, MGS2=7M, MGS3=4M, MGS4=5M and growing. Im pretty sure the people who hated the games are in the minority of those numbers;)

every one that purchased those games is a loyal fan? Oh and lets see, ps1 120 million? ps2 150 million? each of those games sold less then 10% of the install base...thats kind of sad For supposedly being renowned in your opinion as great games.