Kojima refuses to drop MGS4 Exclusivity.

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#1 bleehum
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From CVG. Most important part:
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A source has told CVG that , "Kitaue is constantly trying to force Kojima to drop the game's PS3 exclusivity, which Hideo refuses point blank to do.
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#2 notoriousmatty
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Konami co can go jump off a bridge, i love kojima and hope he has enough respect to keep ps3 exclusive
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#3 mgszelda1
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Good. some third parties should be more about games and less about how much MS can pay them. I'm looking at you Rockstar
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#5 rocktimusprime
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i cant wait to see the cow crying threads over MGS4 when it gets its exclusivity dropped. And why is it Kojima's desicion? Konami can do whatever they want, after it all thier money he's spending.
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#6 Zenkuso
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Konami as a whole could force him to do it, but thats like taking your cash cow out the back and shooting it. They can't force him to do it cause they know he'll quit and sony will pick him up and give him a hugh studio and hire all his team at kojima productions.

PS3 will most likely keep MGS4 without a doubt, so dont sweat it.

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#7 Apocalypse33
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good luck..

with the poor size of the ps3 userbase, they'll never make up the dev costs...

idiots..:lol:

oh well.. Splinter Cell is the new king of Tactical Espionage genre anyway...:)

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#8 -Sora
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what a fanboy
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#9 cwalters
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kind of stupid when ps3 sales are abysmal

guess kojima is gonna run konami out of business cuz they arent gonna make no money off of it:lol:

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#10 Mandingo101
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he really wants sony to be happy so when they produce his movie they will give him the biggest budget possible :lol:
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#11 Sully28
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lol you all act as if the ps3's fan base wont grow. After sonys press confrence you will see all the great games they will have and tell me they wont sell consoles. Hell socom alone will rack in more than a million people. Im glad he is staying with the ps3, you lemmings dont deserve the pleasure of playing mgs4.
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#12 proof11102
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kind of stupid when ps3 sales are abysmal

guess kojima is gonna run konami out of business cuz they arent gonna make no money off of it:lol:

cwalters

:cry: bu but teh MGS4 tattoo on Peter More at the MS presscomferance??

LMAO...lemmings are such selfowners.

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#14 Vandalvideo
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dear mr kojima

i want to play mgs4 but i will never shell out $500-600 for a POS3, i have a 360, now mr kojima do you want my money or not?????? :P

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Kojima, as the developer, doesn't make money directly from sales. Thats for the publisher, Konami. Konami is the one that pays Kojima for development. Its more like, "Kojima, do you want Konami's money?".
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#15 KungfuKitten
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I wonder what Kojima's motivation is? Is it because of a promise? Not everyone is after the money.
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#16 TheDarkDisciple
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[QUOTE="cwalters"]

kind of stupid when ps3 sales are abysmal

guess kojima is gonna run konami out of business cuz they arent gonna make no money off of it:lol:

proof11102

:cry: bu but teh MGS4 tattoo on Peter More at the MS presscomferance??

LMAO...lemmings are such selfowners.

lol who got self-owned here? The fact is, is that one of ps3's best upcoming titles was being disccused as a multiplat, that's a terrible sign.

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#17 Shaqneel
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I wonder what Kojima's motivation is? Is it because of a promise? Not everyone is after the money.KungfuKitten
It'd because as he stated " The Ps3 is like a theater, a bit high priced but also has to be high quality.... I want MGS4 in the theater." It's just like how square enix stated that the ps3 was best system to achieve it's vision for FF13, the ps3 is the best for kojima's vision, especially because of the cell's architecture, and blu-ray.
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]I wonder what Kojima's motivation is? Is it because of a promise? Not everyone is after the money.Shaqneel
It'd because as he stated " The Ps3 is like a theater, a bit high priced but also has to be high quality.... I want MGS4 in the theater." It's just like how square enix stated that the ps3 was best system to achieve it's vision for FF13, the ps3 is the best for kojima's vision, especially because of the cell's architecture, and blu-ray.


So an artistic perfectionist point of view?
That is respectable.

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i cant wait to see the cow crying threads over MGS4 when it gets its exclusivity dropped. And why is it Kojima's desicion? Konami can do whatever they want, after it all thier money he's spending.rocktimusprime

because Kojima got the power of the "delete" button, if you know what I mean that is :)

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#20 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I don't see why Kojima should care if it won't effect the qaulity of the game. If it does then by all means keep it exclusive, if not he shouldn't really care...
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#21 0bscurity
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[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="cwalters"]

kind of stupid when ps3 sales are abysmal

guess kojima is gonna run konami out of business cuz they arent gonna make no money off of it:lol:

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:cry: bu but teh MGS4 tattoo on Peter More at the MS presscomferance??

LMAO...lemmings are such selfowners.

lol who got self-owned here? The fact is, is that one of ps3's best upcoming titles was being disccused as a multiplat, that's a terrible sign.

Oh it's real scary when fanboys start rumors that get denied by devs days later, reaaaaal terrible.

:roll:

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If Konami want to bring MGS4 multiplat , it's pretty obvious that it will go Multiplats . Konami own Kojima and also own MGS .
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#23 colmusterd28
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too bad kojima's last name isn't Konami.... It will be on the 360 get used to it....
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#24 Prid3r
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[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="cwalters"]

kind of stupid when ps3 sales are abysmal

guess kojima is gonna run konami out of business cuz they arent gonna make no money off of it:lol:

0bscurity

:cry: bu but teh MGS4 tattoo on Peter More at the MS presscomferance??

LMAO...lemmings are such selfowners.

lol who got self-owned here? The fact is, is that one of ps3's best upcoming titles was being disccused as a multiplat, that's a terrible sign.

Oh it's real scary when fanboys start rumors that get denied by devs days later, reaaaaal terrible.

:roll:

You do know that you sound ignorant ? it's not a rumor , it's konami themself that put MGS4 exclusivity in question . Kojima can't do **** about it .

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#25 JayPee89
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If Konami want to bring MGS4 multiplat , it's pretty obvious that it will go Multiplats . Konami own Kojima and also own MGS .Prid3r
Konami doesn't own anyone. If Kojima wants to leave he can, and that would be the end of Metal Gear.
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#26 Timstuff
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Hideo Kojima is not only the head of Kojima studios, but he's also the vice president of Konami. He probably has the biggest singular say in wether or not the game is exclusive.
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#27 SemiMaster
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Konami as a whole could force him to do it, but thats like taking your cash cow out the back and shooting it. They can't force him to do it cause they know he'll quit and sony will pick him up and give him a hugh studio and hire all his team at kojima productions.

PS3 will most likely keep MGS4 without a doubt, so dont sweat it.

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As it was told, this is supposedly the last MGS game. So why not go out with a bang and make the most money on it. Which is pretty much up to the PUBLISHER to do.

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#28 zzzaaa
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Well, if it does come to the 360, Lemmings can just expect a bad port.
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#29 TrueReligion_
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Hideo Kojima is not only the head of Kojima studios, but he's also the vice president of Konami. He probably has the biggest singular say in wether or not the game is exclusive.Timstuff

Actually, he's not the VP of Konami, anymore. He's just the head of Kojima Productions.

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[QUOTE="Prid3r"]If Konami want to bring MGS4 multiplat , it's pretty obvious that it will go Multiplats . Konami own Kojima and also own MGS .JayPee89
Konami doesn't own anyone. If Kojima wants to leave he can, and that would be the end of Metal Gear.

It is the end of Metal Gear...

Konami can do whatever they want and if they really want to bring MGS4 to the 360 then they can. They'd just have to get over the fact that if they do Kojima would move on to another publisher.

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#31 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Wow. I always thought this was just an unfounded rumor, but it appears closer and closer to coming true.
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#32 vickissv2
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im calling bs on this. besides its not up to kojima if the game goes multiplat or not , so who cares what he thinks?
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#33 GARRYTH
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dear mr kojima

i want to play mgs4 but i will never shell out $500-600 for a POS3, i have a 360, now mr kojima do you want my money or not?????? :P

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lol witch one has a 33% failure rate witch one is a pos.
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#34 themyth01
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Kojima is as big of a cow as Itagaki is a lemming, probably more since Itagaki allowed a remake of his to the ps3.
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im calling bs on this. besides its not up to kojima if the game goes multiplat or not , so who cares what he thinks?vickissv2
he is the writer of the game. that is like telling a athur what to do about his book. the rights belong to him.
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#36 themyth01
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[QUOTE="Gears360"]

dear mr kojima

i want to play mgs4 but i will never shell out $500-600 for a POS3, i have a 360, now mr kojima do you want my money or not?????? :P

GARRYTH

lol witch one has a 33% failure rate witch one is a pos.

The 33% failure was a rumor and estimate at best, and MS has improved the console which has better and more games than the waitstation 3.

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#37 tegovoltio
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Despite this ''info'' it's been quite obvious for some time now that if MGS4 ever gets ported it's going to be because of Konami.
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[QUOTE="vickissv2"]im calling bs on this. besides its not up to kojima if the game goes multiplat or not , so who cares what he thinks?GARRYTH
he is the writer of the game. that is like telling a athur what to do about his book. the rights belong to him.

Actually I work for a book publishing company , and the author signs over all the rights of the book and has no control of the marketing or distribution of it. Or even the name of the book.

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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="Gears360"]

dear mr kojima

i want to play mgs4 but i will never shell out $500-600 for a POS3, i have a 360, now mr kojima do you want my money or not?????? :P

themyth01

lol witch one has a 33% failure rate witch one is a pos.

The 33% failure was a rumor and estimate at best, and MS has improved the console which has better and more games than the waitstation 3.

in case you didn't know, a lot of potential 360 buyers are WAITING because MS still hasn't included the 65nm chips in the 360s. It will be around fall when that finally happens. So people are WAITING to buy a 360 when it gets better hardware. I think that constitutes it as a waitstation, don't you?

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i cant wait to see the cow crying threads over MGS4 when it gets its exclusivity dropped. And why is it Kojima's desicion? Konami can do whatever they want, after it all thier money he's spending.rocktimusprime
kojima is the head of kojima productions (which was konami japan) so if he says he doesn't want to he doesn't have to since he owns the rights of MGS4 the other guy who said they were discussing it was the head of konami north america in other words he has no power what so ever against kojima
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Custard refused to give in, too. He died.
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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="vickissv2"]im calling bs on this. besides its not up to kojima if the game goes multiplat or not , so who cares what he thinks?vickissv2

he is the writer of the game. that is like telling a athur what to do about his book. the rights belong to him.

Actually I work for a book publishing company , and the author signs over all the rights of the book and has no control of the marketing or distribution of it. Or even the name of the book.

Are you serious? They don't even have control over the books title?

Lame.

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Konami co can go jump off a bridge, i love kojima and hope he has enough respect to keep ps3 exclusivenotoriousmatty

Konami is not run by Kojima...he is employee....Konami can do whatever the hell they want no matter what Kojima thinks.

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#44 shaggygrosser
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Sounds like Kojima just wants to be a glory whore who single handedly saved the PS3 from teh doomz with MGS4.
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#45 bforrester
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LOL at you guys saying what Kojima can do and what Konami can do. None of you guys know the details of their arrangements. Some developers (read: Kojima) have artistic rights over their creations. This MAY or MAY NOT be the case here, but if it is, Kojima has the ability to say where the game will be release. Until someone can dig up a copy of his contract with Konami, you don't know what you're talking about. MGS may well be Kojima's intellectual property, which would give him the ability to stop development altogether were he to choose.
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[QUOTE="notoriousmatty"]Konami co can go jump off a bridge, i love kojima and hope he has enough respect to keep ps3 exclusiveitsallgood29

Konami is not run by Kojima...he is employee....Konami can do whatever the hell they want no matter what Kojima thinks.

And MGS may be Kojima's intellectual property, not the publishers. In the music industry, a record label can't release a 'greatest hits' collection from an artist without the Artist's say so. This could well be the same scenario. For all we know, Kojima could tell Konami to take a flying leap, and take his intellectual property elsewhere. Until you know the details, you know nothing. Now, stop purporting to know what you're talking about when you're purely speculating.

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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="vickissv2"]im calling bs on this. besides its not up to kojima if the game goes multiplat or not , so who cares what he thinks?vickissv2

he is the writer of the game. that is like telling a athur what to do about his book. the rights belong to him.

Actually I work for a book publishing company , and the author signs over all the rights of the book and has no control of the marketing or distribution of it. Or even the name of the book.

That may be how your publishing company does things, but do you think stars like King, Grisham, Rowling, etc sign deals like that with their publishing companies? LOL. You think just because your company does things in that manner, it's the norm?

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#48 Zeliard9
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MGS 4 will be released on the 360 because in the end, logic and common sense will win out. Kojima doesn't want MGS 4 on another console because he believes the PS3 to be a "theater". and he thinks MGS 4 is meant to be played in a "theater".

On the other hand, Kitaue wants MGS 4 to go multiplat purely for financial business reasons, as the PS3 isn't selling nearly as well as had been hoped. He doesn't believe the recent $100 price reduction will be enough to increase the PS3's user base to the extent that enough people will buy MGS 4 and allow it to recoup its high development costs, much less make a profit.

Only one of these two men is playing the role of the intelligent businessman.

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LOL at you guys saying what Kojima can do and what Konami can do. None of you guys know the details of their arrangements. Some developers (read: Kojima) have artistic rights over their creations. This MAY or MAY NOT be the case here, but if it is, Kojima has the ability to say where the game will be release. Until someone can dig up a copy of his contract with Konami, you don't know what you're talking about. MGS may well be Kojima's intellectual property, which would give him the ability to stop development altogether were he to choose.bforrester

agreed. most people here think it's all about the money and bussiness, but some people may do it in another way. there's no telling how they are agruing about this since you can make the circumstances in a contract practically how you want.

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#50 GunSmith1_basic
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It seems obvious to me that MGS4 will be atimed exclusive. It wont be on the 360 for some time though, maybea year after the ps3 release and it wont be announced until well after the ps3 version launch so it doesn't seem so much like Sony is being screwed.