Kotaku: The Xbox One In 2015 Was A Great Machine, Better Than PS4 In Many Ways

Thats not an opinion, thats a lie.

I mean we can say the same thing about the Playstation lineup for 2015 as well. Whatever your negative view of the Xbox's lineup this year, they were games released throughout the year with the summer dry spell hitting both consoles, which it pretty much does every year. After Bloodborne what was the next biggest game released for the playstation that wasn'ts a beta, expansion, multi or old game collection?

Halo is the biggest game on the X1......27 Oct 15. Forza Motorsport 6.....15 Sep 15. End of the year. Not a lie. Trolling?

Everyone's Gone to the Rapture and Until Dawn. So, if you actually like to play your games then Sony has nothing for you this fall

You claimed the rest of the year was barren. Thats a lie. Trolling?

Why are you trying to argue opinion? And what does the PS4 have to do with this? Nothing. Its not the topic.

Talking with you is painful. I'll just leave this here......learn what the word opinion means.

You should probably take your own advice.

The stupid....it burns.

Kotaku... Seriously?

Oh, I didn't know those games were on the shelves. Remind us when we can actually play those games you've listed.

when did MS do this?

Who's arguing an opinion, do you know what opinion mean? You said all the games he mentioned was expansions, beta, old game collections and multi and I asked you what games came out on the Playstation that wasn't all those you named? If you not talking about the Playstation then what console was you playing your games on since you always seem to have negative opinions on things that's Xbox.

This thread has ZERO to do with Sony. And as such I'm not addressing the PS4. But thanks for confirming yourself as a fan boy.*were FYI

So let me ask you then, what console or consoles do you game on and how did I confirm I'm a fanboy lol, cause I put a rebuttal to your comment lol. You'll are just too funny.

Not really caring to get involved, but I saw you say that earlier and I wanted to say that the OP mentions Sony; so while the article may have to do with just the Xbox One (I dunno, haven't read it all), the thread looks to have been created with the intent of having Sony in the conversation and for comparisons to be made.

A joke clickbait article from loltaku. Gamespot and the public in general disagree with them in general hence the reason the Xbone is getting destroyed by the PS4 in sales and metacritic.

One...you are arguing opinion. Whether you like it or not I am entitled to hold an opinion theat is different than yours.

Two...I generally game on everything. And as I said MS hasn't given me a reason to pick up their console yet. Period.

Three...you demonstrated yourself a fan boy because you immediately compared consoles.

I'd like to say you are funny.....but I just find it sad that you think a negative opinion toward one product equals praise for another.

I mean it's obvious that this is a Sony vs MS thread and he's acting like I'm coming out of left field bringing up Sony lol.

The funny thing about xbox fanboys is they keep on claiming they had the better games this year, but whenever I ask them what games they had...they remain silent.

Another Forza, Another Halo and ??? Wow. Such a great year for xbone!.....YAWN.

Meanwhile PS4 got tons of new IP games in a variety of genres.

You fanboys are nuts.

Sony does the same exact thing, you boring cow.

Microsoft have really turned the Xbox One around to the point where it's a better value proposition with the PS4. Add the fact that the BC and network on Xbox aren't a complete piece of shit and you have a more compelling reason to get one over the PS4 in 2015.

PS4 is only such a big commercial success because the Xbox One isn't as popular, Sony haven't innovated on any front, aside from using the Xbox 360 as a design template.

@Zassimick:

My post had nothing to do with Sony. And that is what I'm discussing. I'm not interested in pitting console A against console B.

Ummmmmmm it's a comparions thread about which had a better year, you can't be that dull LMAO. You game on everything but MS hasn't given you a reason to buy a Xbox One so you don't game on everything LMAO. I demonstrated I'm a fanboy cause I asked you what games after Bloodborne on the Playstation that isn't a beta, multi, expansion or old title LMAO.......dude you're trying way to hard to make someone seem like a fanboy cause you appear to be that you not even making any sense. I asked you a question and now I'm a fanboy? That's the problem with fanboys, you'll take everything so serious and want to label people something that you are so bad that you'll reach for ANYTHING.

Delays hurt the PS4's image this year, but it's been slow as hell for all platforms.

Then if you are saying it's a comparison thread and which did better.....only one question is important. Which sold more? This is a business....and the bottom line is money.

Playstation sold me, period. Can't argue with that and really wasn't trying, but you failed to answer my question, can you do that?

Seems to me you're just here to argue. Anti-Xbox user in a pro Xbox thread flinging shit at Xbox fans/owners.

Too many trolls, not enough bridges.

@charizard1605:

I mean I don't disagree at all... but did you read the article? Holy shit, it reads like a PR article. MS couldn't do it much better than this! XD

The two major things they could have used to prove their point (better fall release schedule with great games + backwards compatibility) are put into the background of an article that tries real hard to undersell all the reasons why the XB1 finds itself in it's current postion. And when they do use it, they need to back it up with multiplatform games (some of which have quite some issues on the XB1) and games from 2014 for some odd reason. Not that they're somehow unplayable in 2015 nor does the console exist in vacuum regarding it's past, however these articles are kinda analyzing them in a "time vacuum", so...you know...

Did the XB1 have a better 2015 than the competition? Yes, and it's the software side that tells us this (Forza 6, Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Rare Replay. Those are 4 (well, way more than 4) great games right there. PS4 only had Bloodborne and Until Dawn as games that are on the same level IMO). Not adding a headphone jack to the controller instead of your crappy proprietary jack. Not adding a 1TB SKU. Not selling a 150$ controller that I bet not even 10% of the user base will end up buying. Even stuff like fixing/upgrading/improving the OS, which is great btw, is moot if we consider the other two rivals didn't suffer those sort of problems in that department (actually unsure about the WiiU tbh).

Well aware that it's his or Kotaku's opinion on the matter, but for example praising "getting 2 "free" games with XBL" and not mentioning that, you know, the same happens elswhere comes off PR-ish as hell. Just my 2 cents though. Definitely enjoyed the way the PS4 article is written quite a bit more (which I also agree with).

I think you might want to A....familiarize yourself with SW. And B....read this thread. You're welcome.

Well, I mean, your post said "thread", not "post." That's a big reason why I had responded.

So you're in a thread that invites Sony and the PS4 into the conversation for comparison. Why stifle that discussion? If you want a discussion without the PS4 being brought up for comparison, maybe creating your own topic would be better suited? Is it really okay for you to set the goalposts of discussion when it's not your topic?

If you're not interested in pitting console A against console B, you may want to familiarize yourself with System Wars and read this thread.

@LJS9502_basic: I'm familiar with this place, it's infested with people who spend more time crying over Xbox than playing games.

Wasn't 2014 the PS4's "off" year?

Okay let me ask you this. If user B wants to respond to A should they not do so in regard to what A said and not bring straw man arguments into it? What if I quoted your response above and went on a rant about the X1 controller? Is that really how discussions should go?

The only reason I can see for shifting the goal posts is because B had no real response to what A said in his post.

So you admit you're shifting the goal posts? Certainly you refuse to answer any other questions, therefore I do not expect an answer to this one either, though a response, full of misdirection is a guarantee.

Oh for fucks sake. You are entirely clueless about what I said.....the discussion that ensued. Consider yourself ignored and don't bother trying to discuss this with me unless you can stick to the actual posts.

I certainly prefer it over PS4.

this translates to - **** they caught me out

This translates to I'm a lem and anyone that doesn't worship MS is a cow.

Aww, you gonna go hide under your bridge now?

you notice the 2015 part? 2015 is not the same 2016 FYI

no, you bashed the xbox for being full of betas rehashes etc and he pointed out that so was the ps4 so instead of being the manticore you try and come across as and agree because what hes saying is the truth.

If you quoted my response and did that, I'd be a little confused as to how you got into that rant, but I'd address it because you were speaking to me. A discussion can be constantly evolving. If a point is brought up and you can clearly see a bridge of thought as to why a certain point was brought up, why not have this be how discussions go?

Those other users had that bridge of conversation. The original post in this thread openly invited those comparisons. So when other users mentioned Sony or the PS4, it shouldn't have seemed like a random rant about something else entirely; those arguments, subject to logical fallacies or not, were made in part due to the thread.

Now if another user is bringing logical fallacies into a discussion, I don't believe stopping them and saying, "no, that's not what the thread (wrong) my post is about." Address it for what it is and move on or just ignore the thing. What it appeared you were trying to do was control a conversation you never had control of and you may appear spiteful for doing so.

And yet attributing comments to someone that didn't make them is nothing more than a straw man.........

No that is NOT what I did. Reading comprehension FTL. I responded to his list. Period.

Since Kotaku said so...

In the real world people see it otherwise but to each his own they said ;)

Is this about something I said or about the other users I was speaking of?

@Zassimick: You're never going to get a straight answer out of that guy, he's just here to make sure Xbox fans pay a mental toll because mommy didn't love him enough as a child.

Already a topic on loltaku's console-ish opinions on page one, so I'll just use my "already posted" answer:

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loltaku strikes again.

I don't care if they say the PS4 is great or sucks, Wii U is the best or sucks, PC is the best or sucks, or Xbone is the best or sucks. I don't care what "writers" in their employ type at all. It's the toilet bowl of the internet I avoid...and I say this from System Wars, which tells you something.

It's been years since I gave that joke of a site clicks; **** that site.

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If I had a wish, it would be that we don't cite that awful website for anything, lol. I know, that wish will never be granted considering two loltaku threads on page one, but still, haha.

I will say that this gen has been rather unimpressive for me so far; an early day one adopter of all the major machines. Thank goodness for last gen, PC, and some Wii U gaming (also could be better, but by comparison to Xbone/PS4 it's a pretty solid alternative)...