I didn't get the new memo where it says upscaled means native.McdonaIdsGuy
I didn't get the memo that you could not read links. "I got a message from one of our code gurus today about me talking about the 720p stuff I was spewing incorrectly and told me that we now support 1080i natively too. Glad they got that in too. Now rejoice!"
my ps3 doesn't even have a check beside 1080i. id rather use 720p. also oif you're using an lcd or plasma tv there is no interlaced signal. theres mearly 60FPS(1080p) or 30FPS(1080i). bith produce a progressive scan signal. just one runs smoother then the other.
my ps3 doesn't even have a check beside 1080i. id rather use 720p. also oif you're using an lcd or plasma tv there is no interlaced signal. theres mearly 60FPS(1080p) or 30FPS(1080i). bith produce a progressive scan signal. just one runs smoother then the other.
[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]I didn't get the new memo where it says upscaled means native.SpruceCaboose
I didn't get the memo that you could not read links. "I got a message from one of our code gurus today about me talking about the 720p stuff I was spewing incorrectly and told me that we now support 1080i natively too. Glad they got that in too. Now rejoice!" 1080i just like GT5 is 1080p native,don't come with that trash here,consoles are too weak this gen for those resolutions is probably 960x1080 vertical upscaled,thats the cheap trick devs use to make u believe is 1080p or 1080i native,in fact is just 720p upscaled to 1080i.
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]I didn't get the new memo where it says upscaled means native.McdonaIdsGuy
I didn't get the memo that you could not read links. "I got a message from one of our code gurus today about me talking about the 720p stuff I was spewing incorrectly and told me that we now support 1080i natively too. Glad they got that in too. Now rejoice!" 1080i just like GT5 is 1080p native,don't come with that trash here,consoles are too weak this gen for those resolutions is probably 960x1080 vertical upscaled,thats the cheap trick devs use to make u believe is 1080p or 1080i native,in fact is just 720p upscaled to 1080i.
Correcting people doesn't = trolling,have a nice day.
So you're saying devs are talking bs and that the game doesn't have native 1080i ???
Your link comes from Playstation universe,and from playstation boards,the GG devs would say anything and fanboy will eat it up..they can say we run it at 1080i when the game comes out at beyond3d forums we will have the real resolution and i will laugh at GG.
my ps3 doesn't even have a check beside 1080i. id rather use 720p. also oif you're using an lcd or plasma tv there is no interlaced signal. theres mearly 60FPS(1080p) or 30FPS(1080i). bith produce a progressive scan signal. just one runs smoother then the other.
enygma500
Of course there's such a thing as interlaced signal when you're using an LCD or plasma. It just gets deinterlaced before it is displayed on the screen.
[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] I didn't get the memo that you could not read links. "I got a message from one of our code gurus today about me talking about the 720p stuff I was spewing incorrectly and told me that we now support 1080i natively too. Glad they got that in too. Now rejoice!"Al3x_n90
1080i just like GT5 is 1080p native,don't come with that trash here,consoles are too weak this gen for those resolutions is probably 960x1080 vertical upscaled,thats the cheap trick devs use to make u believe is 1080p or 1080i native,in fact is just 720p upscaled to 1080i.
I really hopre you're joking....
Nop GT5 isn't 1080p native and thats a fact,thats just the cheap trick sony devs use to make people believe that they're playing native 1080p games.
[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"] Correcting people doesn't = trolling,have a nice day.McdonaIdsGuy
So you're saying devs are talking bs and that the game doesn't have native 1080i ???
Your link comes from Playstation universe,and from playstation boards,the GG devs would say anything and fanboy will eat it up..they can say we run it at 1080i when the game comes out at beyond3d forums we will have the real resolution and i will laugh at GG.
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]I didn't get the new memo where it says upscaled means native.McdonaIdsGuy
I didn't get the memo that you could not read links. "I got a message from one of our code gurus today about me talking about the 720p stuff I was spewing incorrectly and told me that we now support 1080i natively too. Glad they got that in too. Now rejoice!" 1080i just like GT5 is 1080p native,don't come with that trash here,consoles are too weak this gen for those resolutions is probably 960x1080 vertical upscaled,thats the cheap trick devs use to make u believe is 1080p or 1080i native,in fact is just 720p upscaled to 1080i. I am going off of what the man says. Until you have final code and pixel counting to prove him wrong, you got nothing to back you up.
I'm no tech wizard but I think 720p is supposed to be better for games than 1080i. So that's what I'll be using.Floppy_Jim
My first piece of advice, do not take tech advice from most SW posters. But you should set your console(s) and other output devices to the same resolution as your display's native resolution. That is by far the best way to go.
[QUOTE="Couth_"]I wonder why. 1080i for games is only for those people with old CRTs that only support 480p and 1080i As long as it still goes 720p though, i'm fine You answered your own question. The PS3 has issues upscaling, and if a source only supports 720p and your display is old, it will default back to 480p and not display an HD image if 1080i is not a choice.
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Couth_"]I wonder why. 1080i for games is only for those people with old CRTs that only support 480p and 1080i As long as it still goes 720p though, i'm fine You answered your own question. The PS3 has issues upscaling, and if a source only supports 720p and your display is old, it will default back to 480p and not display an HD image if 1080i is not a choice.Well I guess I was mainly wondering why they would throw that in native for the 5 people who have those TVs
[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Couth_"]I wonder why. 1080i for games is only for those people with old CRTs that only support 480p and 1080i As long as it still goes 720p though, i'm fine You answered your own question. The PS3 has issues upscaling, and if a source only supports 720p and your display is old, it will default back to 480p and not display an HD image if 1080i is not a choice.Well I guess I was mainly wondering why they would throw that in native for the 5 people who have those TVs There are alot more legacy HDTVs than you think. Also, some people prefer 1080i. Not sure why, but they do.
[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] You answered your own question. The PS3 has issues upscaling, and if a source only supports 720p and your display is old, it will default back to 480p and not display an HD image if 1080i is not a choice.SpruceCaboose
Well I guess I was mainly wondering why they would throw that in native for the 5 people who have those TVs There are alot more legacy HDTVs than you think. Also, some people prefer 1080i. Not sure why, but they do. I'm sure some of it's marketing. A lot of people believe anything with a higher number is better than something with a lower number, even if the two aren't really comparable. This is particularly true if the people don't understand the underlying differences, as is the case with the general population's knowledge about the difference between progressive and interlaced.
[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] I'm sure some of it's marketing. A lot of people believe anything with a higher number is better than something with a lower number, even if the two aren't really comparable. This is particularly true if the people don't understand the underlying differences, as is the case with the general population's knowledge about the difference between progressive and interlaced. That is also very likely true.
But why not 1080p? isn't p supposed to have better colour saturation or something?
Al3x_n90
Because 1080p would take up more resources while 1080i would take up less: 720p is pushing 60 full frames at 1280x720 every second, 1080i is 60 half frames every second at 960x540 to make up a 1920x1080 image at 30fps, 1080p would be 60 full frames at 1920x1080 every second and would take up alot more resources.
I'm fairly sure none of the current crop of consoles can render interlace modes natively. The progressive image would be interlaced at the output stage.
"Native 1080i" is PR for "It runs at 720p" we all know that they are almost the same (with 720p being better for games) why would i want an interlaced image in a FPS??
"Native 1080i" is PR for "It runs at 720p" we all know that they are almost the same (with 720p being better for games) why would i want an interlaced image in a FPS??navyguy21
Probably for the few people who swear by 1080p, might be a better image than an upscaled 720p.... if the game running at 25-30 fps anyways you probably wouldn't notice a difference framerate wise, as for the interlacing lines on movement if they set it up properly you wouldn't see them, it would basically look like 1080p but would be capped at 30fps.
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