KZ2 was the perfect example of quality over quantity.

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#1 MJ4040
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This is just my opinion. Feel free to add yours as well.

After going to KZ2 I couldnt go back to COD games at all. The movements felt unrealistic and cartoonish and the weapons felt less intense. The KZ2 game made everything so well for an fps. Aside from the obvious graphics comparision, if you go to gamespot or any other review, they will tell you about the amazing realism that goes with KZ2. They will also tell you that from a technical aspect, it can even rival MGS4.

So to me, it was just like riding in a 2009 ferrari, and then going back to a 2009 subaru. And modern warfare 2 looks like a 2010 subaru. Yeah, it has new parts and everything, but imma be nuts if I trade a ferrari in for it.

This is what KZ2 is like to me at least. And due to the fact that some people thought that it was overrated, I felt like this was needed to be said.

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#2 DeadMagazines
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where does the quantity example fit in to your logic? ...all I see is a comparison of KZ2 to COD..
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#3 MJ4040
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where does the quantity example fit in to your logic? ...all I see is a comparison of KZ2 to COD..DeadMagazines
Quality being KZ2, quantity being COD.

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#4 samuraiguns
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well, some people like the jumpy-fraggy, 60fps, un-HDres of the MW series and I respect that...

Killzone 2 is good and still will be good.

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#5 gago-gago
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Didn't they patch Killzone 2 a few times to mimic Modern Warfare controls?

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#6 tagyhag
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I always thought Heavenly Sword was the perfect example of quality over quantity.
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#7 LeGoofyGoober
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yeah but, nobody plays it.

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#8 LeGoofyGoober
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well, some people like the jumpy-fraggy, 60fps, un-HDres of the MW series and I respect that...

Killzone 2 is good and still will be good.

samuraiguns



"jumpy, fraggy"? if you bunny hop in MW, you die.

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#9 cainetao11
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Well I have carried a rifle and some gear but, I was never that slow. And I certainly hope I wouldn't have been that slow by the time I made Sergeant. And Slow still with a pistol? No the Game was not realistic, imo. But it was a blast to play as was COD and Halo 3, ODST.
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#10 navyguy21
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Didn't they patch Killzone 2 a few times to mimic Modern Warfare controls?

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lol, yes :P
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#11 Ribnarak
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i agree fully with the TC.

Killzone 2 has weighted guns , good recoil, and player movement. When u get a kill in kz2, in my opinion its better and more rewarding. Its not like cod where u get a kill, and ok move on right away. Plus, when you die you feel that you've been beat. Cod arite you die and come back right away.

I like cod but it just doesnt have the same feel as kz2.

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#12 MJ4040
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yeah but, nobody plays it.

LeGoofyGoober

Child Please, there are plenty of people that still play KZ2. At least 20 games are open that have over 25 people on a good day. And over 30 on a great day.

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#13 Arjdagr8
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how is cod quantity? It has one of the shortest campaigns....
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#14 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

well, some people like the jumpy-fraggy, 60fps, un-HDres of the MW series and I respect that...

Killzone 2 is good and still will be good.

LeGoofyGoober



"jumpy, fraggy"? if you bunny hop in MW, you die.

Not when I play...console version.

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#15 RadecSupreme
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Killzone 2 is superior to most shooters out right now. IMO of course.:)

Most of them are too noobish and take no skill to comprehend or adapt to a certain class or weapon to progress.

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#16 johnnyblazed88
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controlls were different but i wouldnt say they were good or realistic, id call it sluggish

i could whip around a m-16 faster then the kz2 guys lol

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#17 Chutebox
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I always thought Heavenly Sword was the perfect example of quality over quantity.tagyhag
Well played.
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#18 Arjdagr8
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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

well, some people like the jumpy-fraggy, 60fps, un-HDres of the MW series and I respect that...

Killzone 2 is good and still will be good.

samuraiguns



"jumpy, fraggy"? if you bunny hop in MW, you die.

Not when I play...console version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_51Y5A0WGU

What are you talking about?

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#19 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]I always thought Heavenly Sword was the perfect example of quality over quantity.Chutebox
Well played.

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I'm weally hungwy. :(

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#20 angelkimne
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I'd say it's also a good example of style over substance. :P A better example would be Uncharted 1, Left 4 Dead or the Half Life episodes imho.
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#21 dakan45
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I wouldnt say kz2 has that amazing quality, what comparison with cod is this? Killzone 2 weapons are weak and shooting often fells lame, also the story in cod4 is visibly better, all i see is a graphics comparison.
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#22 DBhova23
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[QUOTE="gago-gago"]

Didn't they patch Killzone 2 a few times to mimic Modern Warfare controls?

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lol, yes :P

It basically makes the guns feel like they weigh a bit less but u can barely notice it. So its nowhere near the twitchyness of mw.

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#23 Shafftehr
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I think Killzone fans have a bit of an insecurity complex, and constantly feel the need to explain why their game is *really* better than all of the other games people are essentially passing on it to play instead. So, they come in here and share their little theories about how it's like a certain type of car, it's quality over quantity, like a fine wine it does this or that, while the uncultured masses just pass it by for what's really an inferior product.

Keep on truckin' there KZ'ers. We all know you're playing the better game - we're just jealous and ashamed. I'm sure Sony is busy writing GG another blank cheque and unlimited timeline so they can make another crack at a game that makes an impact on the industry that goes beyond its hype train.

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#24 MJ4040
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controlls were different but i wouldnt say they were good or realistic, id call it sluggish

i could whip around a m-16 faster then the kz2 guys lol

johnnyblazed88

Not if you were to shoot one in real life. Then you would know exactly what I meant by realism.

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#25 Riverwolf007
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you guys should prolly just boot me outta here since i like BF43 mp better than cod and kz2 put together

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#26 xXTalismanXx
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Can PS3fanboys get it in ther head that TF2 and L4D are 1000x better than KZ2?

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I'm weally hungwy. :(

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#28 SteezyZ
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I have to hand it to Guerilla. They matched the sluggish analog sticks of the DualShock with the actual game and made it a "feature". Then they went a re-tooled it to be more like CoD, and most people who boasted about the "realistic" controls before just ate it up. If you want skill, go play Quake Live.
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#29 sikanderahmed
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kz2 was great but cod is better. aiming in kz2 completely sucks, also you talk about realism? well in kz2 you can sprint for a long time and then it takes only few seconds for ur sprint meter to recharge. thats not realistic

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#30 Nidget
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Theres a reason KZ2 only gets a few hundred players online every day whereas COD4 gets hundreds of thousands :wink: KZ2 may be pretty, but thats it. The single player is boring, and the multiplayer gets old fast.
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#31 AlfredCapone
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It was so boring tho......
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#32 bunchofpixels
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Theres a reason KZ2 only gets a few hundred players online every day whereas COD4 gets hundreds of thousands :wink: KZ2 may be pretty, but thats it. The single player is boring, and the multiplayer gets old fast.Nidget
There is a reason why the Wii has outsold the PS3 and the 360 and it has nothing to do with the quality of the games.
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#33 deniiiii21
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I agree with the TC, I think KZ2 is the best FPS this gen, multiplayer is lag free and I really like how its not easy to just aim at someone from 200 yards, its a good game, and yes a lot of people play it.

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#34 sikanderahmed
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[QUOTE="Nidget"]Theres a reason KZ2 only gets a few hundred players online every day whereas COD4 gets hundreds of thousands :wink: KZ2 may be pretty, but thats it. The single player is boring, and the multiplayer gets old fast.bunchofpixels
There is a reason why the Wii has outsold the PS3 and the 360 and it has nothing to do with the quality of the games.

wii did outsell other consoles but alot of wii owners barely play on the wii. cod is superior to kz2 thats why people still play cod. btw kz2 sp was far from boring. it was simply amazing

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#35 VendettaRed07
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Can PS3fanboys get it in ther head that TF2 and L4D are 1000x better than KZ2?

xXTalismanXx

tf2, yeah pretty much... but not left for dead. Its just too lacking in content, not too much variety on the levels, they all look exactly the same. And it gets old pretty fast. Id say its on the same level as killzone 2

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#36 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

"jumpy, fraggy"? if you bunny hop in MW, you die.

Arjdagr8

Not when I play...console version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_51Y5A0WGU

What are you talking about?

youtube is down for maintenance...

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#37 MJ4040
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I think Killzone fans have a bit of an insecurity complex, and constantly feel the need to explain why their game is *really* better than all of the other games people are essentially passing on it to play instead. So, they come in here and share their little theories about how it's like a certain type of car, it's quality over quantity, like a fine wine it does this or that, while the uncultured masses just pass it by for what's really an inferior product.

Keep on truckin' there KZ'ers. We all know you're playing the better game - we're just jealous and ashamed. I'm sure Sony is busy writing GG another blank cheque and unlimited timeline so they can make another crack at a game that makes an impact on the industry that goes beyond its hype train.

Shafftehr

Or, you know, it could be that I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS BETTER!

An industry complex? lol

and @AlfredCapone, wha???

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#38 Arjdagr8
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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"] Not when I play...console version.

samuraiguns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_51Y5A0WGU

What are you talking about?

youtube is down for maintenance...

watch it later then...
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Can PS3fanboys get it in ther head that TF2 and L4D are 1000x better than KZ2?

xXTalismanXx
Can you grasp the basic concept that it is all preferance and personal taste? :|
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#40 ActicEdge
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Hasn't SW made it a habit of telling me its possible to have both?

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#41 Hanass
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I thought the game sucked. It had nothing good but graphics. Controls were abysmal, story was terrible, multiplayer was very generic.

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#42 ThePRAssassin
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]

I think Killzone fans have a bit of an insecurity complex, and constantly feel the need to explain why their game is *really* better than all of the other games people are essentially passing on it to play instead. So, they come in here and share their little theories about how it's like a certain type of car, it's quality over quantity, like a fine wine it does this or that, while the uncultured masses just pass it by for what's really an inferior product.

Keep on truckin' there KZ'ers. We all know you're playing the better game - we're just jealous and ashamed. I'm sure Sony is busy writing GG another blank cheque and unlimited timeline so they can make another crack at a game that makes an impact on the industry that goes beyond its hype train.

MJ4040

Or, you know, it could be that I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS BETTER!

An industry complex? lol

and @AlfredCapone, wha???

Hooray for reading.

INSECURITY complex.

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#43 Nidget
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[QUOTE="Nidget"]Theres a reason KZ2 only gets a few hundred players online every day whereas COD4 gets hundreds of thousands :wink: KZ2 may be pretty, but thats it. The single player is boring, and the multiplayer gets old fast.bunchofpixels
There is a reason why the Wii has outsold the PS3 and the 360 and it has nothing to do with the quality of the games.

Theres a difference between sales and ongoing popularity. Killzone 2 sold pretty well but its hardly played anymore, online at least. Just goes to show its not that great :lol:
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#44 wiistation360
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I thought the game sucked. It had nothing good but graphics. Controls were abysmal, story was terrible, multiplayer was very generic.

Hanass

we have the same game taste

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#45 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_51Y5A0WGU

What are you talking about?

Arjdagr8

youtube is down for maintenance...

watch it later then...

Ohhhh! I just saw it. I wasn't really talking about it like bunny hopping, I meant people jumping down from above getting a head to torso kill and/or a knife kill.
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#46 dual_boot
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It takes quite a bit of skill to play so I can see how a lot of people would be turned off by it.

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#47 MJ4040
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I thought the game sucked. It had nothing good but graphics. Controls were abysmal, story was terrible, multiplayer was very generic.

Hanass

What about the MP was generic? They did what any other AAA fps does, they took MP, and made it their own (in Killzone's case, doing it with realism and warzone)

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#48 Hanass
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

I thought the game sucked. It had nothing good but graphics. Controls were abysmal, story was terrible, multiplayer was very generic.

MJ4040

What about the MP was generic? They did what any other AAA fps does, they took MP, and made it their own (in Killzone's case, doing it with realism and warzone)

Mostly the weapons were generic. There was the generic assault rifle, the generic shotgun, and the generic pistol.

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#49 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]

I think Killzone fans have a bit of an insecurity complex, and constantly feel the need to explain why their game is *really* better than all of the other games people are essentially passing on it to play instead. So, they come in here and share their little theories about how it's like a certain type of car, it's quality over quantity, like a fine wine it does this or that, while the uncultured masses just pass it by for what's really an inferior product.

Keep on truckin' there KZ'ers. We all know you're playing the better game - we're just jealous and ashamed. I'm sure Sony is busy writing GG another blank cheque and unlimited timeline so they can make another crack at a game that makes an impact on the industry that goes beyond its hype train.

MJ4040

Or, you know, it could be that I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS BETTER!

An industry complex? lol

and @AlfredCapone, wha???

I think Planescape: Torment is the best RPG, and my favorite game ever made. You can search my whole history and you'll never find me make a thread trying to tell people that. I'll bring it up when asked (IE - "What's the best RPG?") threads, at appropriate times as an example (such as here), but I'm not insecure enough in my belief - my personal taste - to try and tell other people that their preferred games are in some way inferior.

It's not that you liked it better that makes me think you might be a bit insecure in your position as a KZ2 supporter. It's that you choose to express that fondness by going out of your way to tell fans of another game that your game is "quality" while theirs is "quantity."

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#50 SPYDER0416
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I'm actually with you on that, Killzone 2 kept all its focus on single player and multiplayer perfection, as well as the movements and graphics. This made the game one of themost polished games out there, although unfortunately it took away time to add more stuff like co-op or extra maps/single player length.

Still, it is insanely polished and perfected.