Lair and R&C are way bigger flops than TP and MP3...

[QUOTE="SOedipus"][QUOTE="SuperMario_46"]

All of those are superb games (Except Lair) and i couldn't care less if they're flops or not

black_awpN1

Agreed

LOL, am i the only one here who had remotely any fun with Lair?

Most likely. The game had potential, but the controls and locking system made me so angry, I just didn't have the patience. I think I cracked the Sixaxis from squeezing it so hard out of rage.

I'd rank it like this:

1. TP

2. Lair

3. R&C

4. MP3.

I'd rank it like this:

1. TP

2. Lair

3. R&C

4. MP3.

WeAreToast

You really think a AAA hyped game getting an 8.8 is a bigger flop than a AA-AAA game getting a 4.5? Lair was supposed to be one of the PS3's saving graces this year...

I'd say:

1.-3. Lair

4. Zelda

5. R&C

6. MP3

Gamespots MP3 review was a joke, plain and simple. You'd have to be blind not to see that. Not the score, but the review. TP, however, I admit could have been better. All in all, I preferred Majora's Mask.

Tylendal

Very true. MP3's review made absolutely no sense, and every page of the review had multiple contradictions/hypocricies. I'd like to give TP a 9.0 if it was a completely new game/IP, but it was extremely derivative of Ocarina, had crummy tacked on Wii controls, and honestly just didn't feel as new as Wind Waker, so I'd say it was a step backwards in some ways. I'd say 8.8 was right for it. But if Halo 3 can havea 9.5 here (I'd say it deserves it based on content, but not necessarily gameplay), MP3 can get a 9.

TP was a bigger flop because it was hyped as God's gift to gamers, a 1000 hour adventure that grants wishes, and would win GOTY every year for the next millennia.Now is it a better game than R&C and Lair?Sure.But nothing flopped like TP.

I can't believe the TC is even put a LoZ and a Metriod game on the same level as R&C and Liar.

Only cows where expecting Liar to be any good; seriously, just by watching one pre-release video of it, I could tell it was gonna suck, and it did. R&C at best was going to be AA game, but of course, Sony fans felt that since they didn't have a killer app they should overhype the game to epic proportions.

As for LoZ and Metriod, cows can use that as an excuse because those arebig games - huge games if you ask me. Considering those two are part of a the three pronged attack that Nintendo has coming from their in house developement; dam right they should be singled out and scrutinized more than those crappy PS3 games.

I cant believe that when someone is talking about the R&C floppage, cows bring up TP and MP3 as counter ownage... it doesnt make any sense. MP3 and TP were hyped AAA and they got high AA. Rachet and clank got a 7.5...that is a whole other catergory of game. the same category as elebits and bwii. secondary good games. Even though all 3 of them flopped in terms of expectations at system wars... it is clear to see who ended better off.

PS: im sure R&C is a great game and i believe it deserves at least a 8.0. What did ign give it? a 9.4.... that i think was really pushing it... i guess the ign ps3 team is dying for good exclusives.

amtentori

Lair may have flopped but it still isnt the worse game for any system in next gen. The game with the lowest score is on the xbox 360, believe it or not but yeah, lol.

Twilight Princess was the biggest flop of all of those. It was the reason to buy a Wii and the next game in the Zelda series. It was hyped high AAA and even AAAA by some. Sparky04

[QUOTE="Sparky04"]Twilight Princess was the biggest flop of all of those. It was the reason to buy a Wii and the next game in the Zelda series. It was hyped high AAA and even AAAA by some. TyrantDragon55

Only by the cows. You had to be blinded by loyalty and fanboyism to not realize just how crappy it was gonna be.

Just the premise itself is a bad idea, a game about dragons, lol what a mistake.

I can't believe the TC is even put a LoZ and a Metriod game on the same level as R&C and Liar.

Only cows where expecting Liar to be any good; seriously, just by watching one pre-release video of it, I could tell it was gonna suck, and it did. R&C at best was going to be AA game, but of course, Sony fans felt that since they didn't have a killer app they should overhype the game to epic proportions.

As for LoZ and Metriod, cows can use that as an excuse because those arebig games - huge games if you ask me. Considering those two are part of a the three pronged attack that Nintendo has coming from their in house developement; dam right they should be singled out and scrutinized more than those crappy PS3 games.

elbow2k

Granted, Zelda is the biggest of said releases, but both it and Metroid were reviewed as "great" here. 0.2 points off of AAA really isn't a particularly big flop; it's only big because it's Zelda (and because fanboys like to go overboard about things). Lair, on the other hand, wasn't on the same level as Zelda in terms of influence, but it was supposed to be a masterpiece, and a game to push PS3 consoles, and to show the system's power. Getting a 4.5 is about as bad as you can do in that situation; Metroid getting an 8.5 can't even compare. 8.5 says the game is excellent andcertainly worth getting, but has some flaws; 4.5 says the game is crap.