last mgs4 pics look very bad....

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#51 mouthpeace01
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Metal Gear Solid 4 looks better than Call of Duty 4, and that was in 2007. I'm not sure what the newest build looks like, but knowing Kojima Productions there have most likely been a lot of improvements graphically and definately in the gameplay department. Metal Gear Solid 4 is one of the best looking games to date, saying it looks bad would then make everything else appearantly look ugly.

...June 12th.

Adrian_Cloud

COD4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

ok wait.....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MGS4 in fps mode...fact

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[QUOTE="grosper077"]wow look at that graphics looks horrible do this game is in white and black?.mingo123

does it look black and white to you?

I didn't even think about it at first, but it sort of does. There are no primary colors at all.

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#53 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Metal Gear Solid 4 looks better than Call of Duty 4, and that was in 2007. I'm not sure what the newest build looks like, but knowing Kojima Productions there have most likely been a lot of improvements graphically and definately in the gameplay department. Metal Gear Solid 4 is one of the best looking games to date, saying it looks bad would then make everything else appearantly look ugly.

...June 12th.

mouthpeace01

COD4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

ok wait.....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MGS4 in fps mode...fact

The fact that it gives you the option to do FPS Mode, in a 3rd person shooter AND over the shoulder is pretty incredible

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#54 mouthpeace01
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[QUOTE="mouthpeace01"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Metal Gear Solid 4 looks better than Call of Duty 4, and that was in 2007. I'm not sure what the newest build looks like, but knowing Kojima Productions there have most likely been a lot of improvements graphically and definately in the gameplay department. Metal Gear Solid 4 is one of the best looking games to date, saying it looks bad would then make everything else appearantly look ugly.

...June 12th.

therealmcc0y

COD4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

ok wait.....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MGS4 in fps mode...fact

The fact that it gives you the option to do FPS Mode, in a 3rd person shooter AND over the shoulder is pretty incredible

that feature is somewhat overplayed this gen
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#55 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Metal Gear Solid 4 looks better than Call of Duty 4, and that was in 2007. I'm not sure what the newest build looks like, but knowing Kojima Productions there have most likely been a lot of improvements graphically and definately in the gameplay department. Metal Gear Solid 4 is one of the best looking games to date, saying it looks bad would then make everything else appearantly look ugly.

...June 12th.

mouthpeace01

COD4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

ok wait.....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MGS4 in fps mode...fact

There isn't a need to add criterias. Metal Gear Solid 4 has better graphics in whatever view you play whether it will be the older top down view, or the subistence 3d view, or the over the shoulder view, or the first person view.

Dang thats a lot of views, plus you can switch the side on where the camera angle is set, so multiply some by 2!


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#56 GnR-SLaSh
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But that could be said for literally every game because you can always take bad screens.. EG:

I know that Halo 3 looks much nicer usually, but you can always catch at bad moments?

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#57 3picuri3
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it reminds me of GRAW, not a bad thing - but not a terribly good thing either ;)
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#59 wemhim
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="mouthpeace01"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Metal Gear Solid 4 looks better than Call of Duty 4, and that was in 2007. I'm not sure what the newest build looks like, but knowing Kojima Productions there have most likely been a lot of improvements graphically and definately in the gameplay department. Metal Gear Solid 4 is one of the best looking games to date, saying it looks bad would then make everything else appearantly look ugly.

...June 12th.

mouthpeace01

COD4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

ok wait.....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MGS4 in fps mode...fact

The fact that it gives you the option to do FPS Mode, in a 3rd person shooter AND over the shoulder is pretty incredible

that feature is somewhat overplayed this gen

I personally like it with GeOW how it just zooms in keeping 3rd person, better than going into FPS mode, it's much more cinematic and flows nicely, but I still like the FPV mode...
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#60 wemhim
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]

[QUOTE="grosper077"]wow look at that graphics looks horrible do this game is in white and black?.BubbyJello

does it look black and white to you?

I didn't even think about it at first, but it sort of does. There are no primary colors at all.

There's enough from the trailers I've seen, and Raging Bull, one of the best movies ever in my opinion came out in 80' in black and white.
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#61 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="BubbyJello"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

[QUOTE="grosper077"]wow look at that graphics looks horrible do this game is in white and black?.wemhim

does it look black and white to you?

I didn't even think about it at first, but it sort of does. There are no primary colors at all.

There's enough from the trailers I've seen, and Raging Bull, one of the best movies ever in my opinion came out in 80' in black and white.

wtf does that have to do with anything? what's with all your movie analogies that make absolutely zero sense? lol. what does MGS4 have to do with transformers / raging bull / and american gangster. games aren't movies.

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#62 wemhim
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

[QUOTE="grosper077"]wow look at that graphics looks horrible do this game is in white and black?.3picuri3

does it look black and white to you?

I didn't even think about it at first, but it sort of does. There are no primary colors at all.

There's enough from the trailers I've seen, and Raging Bull, one of the best movies ever in my opinion came out in 80' in black and white.

wtf does that have to do with anything? what's with all your movie analogies that make absolutely zero sense? lol. what does MGS4 have to do with transformers / raging bull / and american gangster. games aren't movies.

The point is emotional empact. I don't need special effects to enjoy something. It's the same thing with movies, I can enjoy movies without having CGI and all that. A game can be awesome without 4xAA or 128 bit HDR and whatever else. To this day I enjoy SNES games. I enjoy playing Max Payne 2 more than a lot of new games personally.
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#63 3picuri3
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The point is emotional empact. I don't need special effects to enjoy something. It's the same thing with movies, I can enjoy movies without having CGI and all that. A game can be awesome without 4xAA or 128 bit HDR and whatever else. To this day I enjoy SNES games.
wemhim

the rules that apply to the cinematic apparatus don't apply fully to games and vice-versa. it's great you like those movies, but it speaks nothing to mgs4 and it's color palette choices - or the fact you enjoy snes games.

i get the overlying point - graphics don't mean everything and gameplay trumps all, but the movie analogies just kinda muddy the point up imo :P

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#64 -HalleR-
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[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="akif22"]

looks ok .. a few jaggies, but ok textures, nice lighting

remember that it'll look better in motion

screens can be misleading sometimes

jdt532

for sure it ll be a nice game!

but ppl hype it too much

That's funny coming from a Halo fan... Halo is THE most hyped franchise in videogame history.



Im pretty sure GTA 4 may have passed halo in the hype train by now, mostly cause sony and MS get it..
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#65 niall077
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looks much better in motion.

Id rather have a game that looks good in motion and meh in screen shots then a game that looks good in screenshots and runs bad..like mass effect

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#66 wemhim
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[QUOTE="wemhim"]The point is emotional empact. I don't need special effects to enjoy something. It's the same thing with movies, I can enjoy movies without having CGI and all that. A game can be awesome without 4xAA or 128 bit HDR and whatever else. To this day I enjoy SNES games.
3picuri3

the rules that apply to the cinematic apparatus don't apply fully to games and vice-versa. it's great you like those movies, but it speaks nothing to mgs4 and it's color palette choices - or the fact you enjoy snes games.

i get the overlying point - graphics don't mean everything and gameplay trumps all, but the movie analogies just kinda muddy the point up imo :P

You're kind of right. I mean, games have always had a sort of fun factor in them compared to film. However, I still think people take it TOO far, I really like nice graphics and all that, but I think people should view them as additions, rather than the making of the game, which seems to be the idea for some now. If someone hates stealth games or 3rd person shooters or whatever, that's great, but if they love them but let some texture or colour issues bring them down, that's a problem in my opinion. And crappy is too far, it has problems, but it's not crappy looking...
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#67 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]its not like its the aftermath of a nuclear blast or something

Adrian_Cloud

It's not? How do you know :?

I think that's the theme they are trying to achieve after all

1. It's not in the aftermath of a nuclear blast.

2. That is not the theme they are trying to achieve. The theme is in fact the reason why there is no nuclear war. War has now become a business, with total control using nanomachines, and using a nuclear bomb would totally disrupt the Patriots control over the battlefield. But Liquid has found a way to "hack" into the nanomachines in soldiers bodies and is using them and Metal Gear Ray to fight back against USA and the Patriots.

Do you know what Metal Gears are? If there are metal gears...there are nukes. his prediction is just as valid as yours.

well if there was a nuclear aftermath there wouldnt be any people around within a 50 mile radius cause of the radiation.

so you're telling me that he's sneaking around in a radiation-filled landscape

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#68 TreyoftheDead
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The game looks good and that's all there is to say on the matter. :|

Seriously, have you seen the game in motion? It looks just as good as CoD4, if not better. That's good enough for me. And with that said, I don't think I've ever met a single person who plays a Metal Gear game for the graphics. All this complaining about graphics is really starting to bore me. Can a fanboy enjoy a game that they think is ugly?

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#69 turaaggeli
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Looks pretty good to me.
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#70 the_h_bomb
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Lemmings hype the crap graphics on Fable 2 and Too Human, then they have the nerve to criticise MGS4

what is the world coming to?

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#71 acviper123
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Looks pretty sweet to me. I cant wait.
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#72 aroxx_ab
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What is wrong with some people, if you call those pictures "very bad"...i dont know if you have bad eyes or something, it looks amazing maybe not best graphic out there but still amazing. MGS isnt a crysis game that main focus is get best graphic ever seen.

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#73 hayato_
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Game looks good to me

I guess people need to take off their fanboy glasses to see that.

:lol:8):shock::|

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#74 Suliman-Uchia
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Ahhh, but last MGS4 GAMEPLAY video looked amazing. ;)

EDIT: Also having a master chief avatart isn't going to help you out too much, prepair to get flamed.

saolin323

While the game does not even look passable IMO, it was never hyped for its graphics anyway, so what is the problem ?

Nothing is but if MSG4 game-play is horrible than the game is a failure. The game has too much talking and other boring stuff in all it is more mediocre than Resistance and Killzone one. Only metal gear solid ops was good the other ones were boring the gamplay and graphics are average.

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#75 wooooode
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I would say based on that pick it is above average but not supreme or anything.
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#76 Rhys555
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This thread has reached new levels of arrogance. You must be proud.

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#77 Suliman-Uchia
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Game looks good to me

I guess people need to take off their fanboy glasses to see that.

:lol:8):shock::|

hayato_

Then play gears of war, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Crysis, Fable 2, and Assasins Creed then come back and say that looks good. MSG4 better have good gameplay it needs a dual layer disk and has will like graphics. Kojjima is horrible he spent 1 year on the openng scene for MSG4 the game is ofcourse going to flop.

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#78 Lonelynight
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Looks fine
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#79 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

Game looks good to me

I guess people need to take off their fanboy glasses to see that.

:lol:8):shock::|

Suliman-Uchia

Then play gears of war, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Crysis, Fable 2, and Assasins Creed then come back and say that looks good. MSG4 better have good gameplay it needs a dual layer disk and has will like graphics. Kojjima is horrible he spent 1 year on the openng scene for MSG4 the game is ofcourse going to flop.

put the keyborad down....
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#80 omarguy01
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uh... no that looks awesome :|
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#81 Lemmywinks_360
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Everyone has an opinion, yours is just wrong:D
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#82 0rin
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HOW ON EARTH... WOW!!

You guys are IMPOSSIBLE to satisfy! WOW!!! I mean, in my eyes, this game looks phenomenal! Thats just insane! Its like we are looking at two completely different screenshots! What the hell are you guys comparing this to? Crysis??? It looks great!

Hardly even passable? thats pathetic! wow... thats so ... just.. .. wow.

Crazy fanboys.

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#83 stereointegrity
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Everyone has an opinion, yours is just wrong:DLemmywinks_360
and what is ur opinion on the matter
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#84 dgo71102244
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this game sucks hard
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#85 TMontana1004
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[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="akif22"]

looks ok .. a few jaggies, but ok textures, nice lighting

remember that it'll look better in motion

screens can be misleading sometimes

jdt532

for sure it ll be a nice game!

but ppl hype it too much

That's funny coming from a Halo fan... Halo is THE most hyped franchise in videogame history.

And 500k are online every day and it is the fasting selling game on launch in history.

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#86 Kritical_Strike
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[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"][QUOTE="hayato_"]

Game looks good to me

I guess people need to take off their fanboy glasses to see that.

:lol:8):shock::|

stereointegrity

Then play gears of war, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Crysis, Fable 2, and Assasins Creed then come back and say that looks good. MSG4 better have good gameplay it needs a dual layer disk and has will like graphics. Kojjima is horrible he spent 1 year on the openng scene for MSG4 the game is ofcourse going to flop.

put the keyborad down....

Who picks up a keyboard when typing? I guess a fanboy might.

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#87 blues3531
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Im not liking the colors for MGS4, it doesnt look natural IMO

Splinter Cell shot^^^^above has the right feel to it.

Mkavanaugh77

haha oh yeah the sky is usually bright white naturally and everything has a brown/green tint when i walk outside in real life too!

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#88 filiwian
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It matters more about gameplay than graphics. Besides this game doesn't come out for another few months so they could be putting the final touches to the game as we speak. Has it actually occured to anyone what kind of tv this was played on like maybe.....720p or something else? Honestly though gameplay does matter more than graphics in my opinion.

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#89 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

Ahhh, but last MGS4 GAMEPLAY video looked amazing. ;)

EDIT: Also having a master chief avatart isn't going to help you out too much, prepair to get flamed.

saolin323

While the game does not even look passable IMO, it was never hyped for its graphics anyway, so what is the problem ?

Looks much better than Fable 2!

The picture looks good, don't know what people are complaining about. It looks even better when you actually watch the gameplay vids.

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#90 dgo71102244
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HOW ON EARTH... WOW!!

You guys are IMPOSSIBLE to satisfy! WOW!!! I mean, in my eyes, this game looks phenomenal! Thats just insane! Its like we are looking at two completely different screenshots! What the hell are you guys comparing this to? Crysis??? It looks great!

Hardly even passable? thats pathetic! wow... thats so ... just.. .. wow.

Crazy fanboys.

0rin



ROFLMAO ps3 fanboy in maxium expresion