Last Of US (greatest game ever made?)

Originality isn't the only measuring stick for the quality of a story, you know.

No, but it's far from the greatest story in video games.

Please stop quoting me you nerds

As I said before, I guess it boils down to preference. I didn't love it for the story it was trying to tell as much as I loved it for the way it told it. Of course none of it is stuff you haven't seen before, in a genre as over-saturated as zombie post apocalypse, it's hard to do that. But TLoU tells its story very, very well, and for me at least, that makes it among the best stories in video games.

I know I'm going to get flamed by Sony fanboys, but I think LOU is one of the most overrated games of recent times (right up there with GTA V). It does some excellent things, like the story/characters and voice acting, and the world itself is very cool, but everything else is pretty meh. I agree with OP, probably a 7 or 8/10 at the most.

It's not the greatest game ever made.

It is however a really emotional rollercoaster of a story and the way the story is presented through gameplay is just next level.

I gotta empahise through gameplay here, because really that is what TLOU managed to do really well. Instead of taking control away from the player and regurgitating story into the players mouth, you actually advanced the story and characters through playing.

But yeah calling it the greatest game ever, would be a tad overrated.

But then again the Uncharted games all got very high scores, and looking back at them they are far from the classics they were praised to be.

Great Game and has Underrated Multiplayer to boot. Definitely one of the greats in its generation. Horizon is a good game.

I mean in contrast to the praise, you could maybe make the argument it's overrated, but that's any game that would get that kind of praise, unless it's Super Metroid, which is perfect.

But, I like the game on a lot of fronts. While I wish the shooting didn't have a random element to it, I think the sway is an actual good design decision for what they want you to feel in combat. Shooting a gun isn't as simple as point, shoot, they drop, you need to be a bit more mindful of your shots, and it adds to a sense of urgency with the games limited pool of ammunition. Even if a lot of is psychological and the game will give you free ammo for emptying a gun and killing someone with it. The guns are nice n loud n beefy, the health kits have to be crafted through your own supplies+a health system that can make long term damage a meaningful part of the gameplay, shivs are a insta kill for you or they open doors, a respectable assortment of weapons for the most part that you carry at once, and good encounter designs.

The better ones tend to be against the humans where you do the games vanilla ass stealth (shallow), but not necessarily to ghost (though you can ghost some stretches) but to pick people apart and then when shit hits the fan start fighting them off. The limited ammo gives you an incentive to sneak, and because you can break line of sight, you can trigger a stealth state all over again. It makes for really engaging shoot outs that a lot if its contemporaries can't really deliver on in the same. I wouldn't put it up to snuff with RE4 or Vanquish in terms of depth, or Max Payne in sheer primal thrill, but I like it a hell of a lot more than I like other cover based shooters that aren't Binary Domain.

The multiplayer, while having noticeable balance issues and pay 2 win microtransaction bullshit, is actually kind of good on a base level. It's actually something unique as far as TPS goes, what with the crafting your stuff during a match, the gun sway is altered a bit to work more consistently in mp, the more slow, deliberate pace of the game forces a level of coordination because you can be punished harshly for taking on people alone, and the different tools create for interesting reversal opportunities.

It isn't replacing Counter-Strike any time soon, but it's genuinely well thought out for the most part.

Not greatest ever, thats too much for TLOU. And its not only the AI for not being the GOAT.

Aside that i had a blast with TLOU, one of my best games last generation and i cant wait for TLOU 2. With that being said im really into cinematic and story driven games so to me game easily is a 9/10 despite some flaws here and there.

I didn't care to finish it.

None of Sony's top reviewing games are GAMES that stand the test of time.... so easily replaced by better graphics

It was a great game. One of the best and intense storylines I have played on the PS4 (Yes, I have shockingly never played it on the PS3 when it was first released). Overall, I give this a 9/10.

The multiplayer is extremely addictive, been playing it for over 2 years and still playing it now!

Not sure whether to consider playing the DLC, any good?

I agree. TLOU is a great game imo. I would go 8.5-9.0/10 AI is LOL but I can accept that. Greatest ever made? LOL I don't believe there is a greatest game, film, book, album ever made. Entertainment doesn't work like that.

I enjoyed it a hell of a lot more than I ever expected it to, enough to want to replay it back to back. I feel playing the game only on the highest difficulty helped though because it best simulated a true survival experience.

I've no doubt it's a good game, just never the epic praise it got when it released. I finally own a copy for my PS4, have for well over a year, have yet to get around to playing it because never been that hyped to. I never thought the Uncharted games were never worth their hype by miles and that's kind of been a barrier in ever getting into any hyped Naughty Dog game. Anyhow, plan on wiping out my PS4 backlist in coming months, so I'll get to it. I have to concede though whatever my reactions are regarding it now have to take into account the game was made 4 years ago, I hate it myself when people play a dated game and have a modern reception to it that criticizes it for things when modern gaming standards weren't there during its development.

Even before the games release though I had major reservations about the package of goods everybody was sold on regarding the gameplay demo. It was very impressive at first glance, however, I started noticing other demos like on late night shows playing to the same script as the games original debut demo, and how they were playing it was scripted exactly the same in every way. The game was selling itself as having profound enemy AI during the demo but if that was the case they certainly weren't showing how it varied. I started expecting it to be a load of BS because of this, of course the cows thought I was just another jelly xbot, and turns out I was right on that end.

Mostly tempted to play it just to see if it's actually good, or if this is another case of cows claiming to see the emperor's new clothes. I mean, there's quite a bit of that especially during the PS3 days, no doubt. Experiencing this now might help shed more insight into that last gen phenomenon.

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I think there is a lot to praise about the Last of Us. It does some truly incredible things.

Having said that, I don't think it would place in my top 25 games. It may not even make it to my top 50.

It was a good game. Why do we have to get so subjective about art? I enjoyed it, it wasn't my GOAT. One persons junk is anothers treasure. It had quality production.

Last Of US (greatest game ever made?)

Nope ! Very good but the "greatest" is still to be seen so no.

Nope Witcher 3 for me it did characters better/Themes world better. Still Last of us is a good game

I seriously hate this being said about The Last of Us on a gaming forum. The game has horrible gameplay. The movie parts I agree are the best part and even better then normal games but if all you care about is movies then you can get a far better movie without paying $60. The plot in generic as hell and the entire plot is cliche. I agree it is a cliche plot done well but in the end it is very unoriginal.

Sony fans are seriously killing gaming. You look at every game they cheer as the best and they all suck gameplay wise.

Sony fans hate actual gameplay in their games.

Before The last of Us it was Uncharted which also had poor gameplay.

We are entering an era when games have no gameplay.

It's almost as good as the best game ever Gears of War.

@CanYouDiglt: Oh look a delusional fanboy, see kids this is what you don't want gaming to turn you into.

Your post makes literally zero sense. Your are just upset the truth hurts you moo moo Sony fanboy.

Name me at least on damn Sony game that is known for gameplay. Sony makes games for the fanbase and the fanbase does not like gameplay. Every single game Sony fanboys brag about has bad gameplay. Look Sony gamers do not enjoy gameplay so just go with it. There is no major Sony game where people say it has great gameplay. It is all about the movie. Sony gamers are not real gamers they just pay too much for movies. like the name says they like to be milked.

What are you going to tell me how great the gameplay s in Uncharted LMAO

They're even turning God of War into a cinematic game now...

Sadly a game know for being a hack and slash is just another Sony movie game. Sony knows their fans can not handle actual gameplay in their games.

Once again Sony producing the worst gamers there is. They even turned God of War into a QTE movie game. Lets face it though NO Sony fan ever brags about gameplay. Sony fans are not good gamers since all they care about is graphics and the movie parts.

@CanYouDiglt: Yawn, let me know when you're done with this fanboy bs and we can get into an actual discussion. Oh derp derp movie derp is all you've got, nevermind. It's like the trolls and fanboys do t even try anymore, you tools just read off of a standardized script and spout off the same nonsense every time you post. Don't worry, the Sony fanboys, Nintendo fanboys, and you Xbox fanboys all do it and it's beyond old at this point.

Are you ok up there mentally?

I have actually said many points and you have said really nothing.

It is definitely up there as one of the greatest games ever made however no game at the moment tops The Witcher 3. Sorry.

I'm the opposite. I thought TLOU was a masterpiece deserving of all the praise and found Horizon to be the overrated game. After playing games like Witcher 3 and BotW Horizon just did nothing for me.

Good game but a onetime play-through.

Not even close. It's GOTY material, but nowhere near GOAT material.

Man, It's really one of the greatest, not the best but still. I'm trying not to think about the game to forget a bunch of things about the plot so I can replaying it again with a fresher mind.

Can't wait for TLOU2

It's really bad imo, the game changes suddenly into "throwing molotovs simulator"

I usually hope from game to game, but I have to agree here. I stayed on this game for months with the online. It was so intense. It was so much fun.

Are you delusional? I loved the gameplay in The Last of Us. The online was actually really fun. The game on higher difficulties was great with you having to be really careful because you could die very quickly and needed to be quiet. And I actually liked the gameplay in uncharted too, but TLOU was something else. You can call me a Sony fanboy but I mainly game on PC (as you see in my sig), but the true fanboy is you.

I can see how it can be someones favourite game. Its not like its a Bubsy game.

I played and beat it and Left Behind on PS4.

It isn't my favorite game, but for me, it has a lot going for it stylistically, because I like survival horror, especially when in third-person, and with stealth and action elements.

Although I found it pretty compelling, there are some things about it that I'm still skeptical about. For starters, it rides the zombie apocalypse bandwagon which is the world's most overcrowded bandwagon of all time. It's in the overcrowded bandwagon hall of fame. So, I would really like to see horror games that aren't zombie stories for a change, or aren't, at least, zombie apocalypse stories.

Speaking of horror, it wasn't especially scary, even if the game itself is great. Anything horror that isn't very scary loses a few points if I have my say. I think it's a high eight to low nine out of ten - not my favorite game for PS4 let alone ever.

So I guess the places that gave it full marks and GOTY are all Sony fans and are killing gaming?

You sir, sound like a complete butt hurt fan boy.

Witcher 3 is my goat so far. Have never played a better game.

I liked The Last of Us. Over time, I came to appreciate the things I liked about it more such as the superb game-feel and intense human AI encounters.

There are things however that I don't like in the game such as the numerous, slower talking moments, the environmental puzzles and the urge to fall into a habit of disposing of the AI by exploiting their planning algorithm. Some of the encounters too, the ones that force you into combat or moments where the game breaks its own rules (like that sniper section) suffocate the choice a bit.

Perhaps not my favorite game but definitely one I liked. :)

After all the Uncharted wankery, it at least felt like Naughty Dog was making an actual game again.

@jg4xchamp: I only played Uncharted 2 and that game was a slog for me; outside of maybe two chapters?

I definitely appreciate that the combat encounters of The Last of Us have way more than U2. They have more substance and effective use of the level design and mechanics than Uncharted 2 had. Uncharted 2 was just not a fun game for me at all.

Everquest before it was bastardised for F2P is the best game ever made.

Yes Greatest game for me hands down

For me, the story combined with the production value, graphics, and brutal gameplay make it my best gaming experience ever. I really like the multiplayer too.

Why did you put that in the title lol. But yeah its a fun game but not the best.

LOL Fighting the same enemies the entire game just different color variants was lame. BOTW had no epic dungeons or boss fights. The beasts sucked ass and were boring. Running around the world constantly collecting useless shit got old quick. I've been a Zelda fan for 30 years and the game sucked.

One of the best games in terms of story. The gameplay is competent, not as fluid as Horizon or Dark Souls (as some have decided to compare it to) but the story blasts those games out of the water. It was like a really well-done movie or well-written book.

Not even remotely close.