Last Remnant on PS3?? SquareEnix' Awkward Silence

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#1 resevl4rlz
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saw this little bit of information when looking for some new info on The Last Remnant. SquareEnix's response is just ridiculous. It's not looking too good.

GDC: The Last Remnant PS3 and the Awkwardest SilenceGDC: The Last Remnant PS3 and the Awkwardest Silence

SAN FRANCISCO -- So we were in the Last Remnant panel at GDC, where Square Enix's Hiroshi Takai and Epic's Mike Capps, among others, had just finished discussing the often difficult process of using Unreal Engine 3 to create a Japanese role-playing game.

I decide to ask a question.

"The Last Remnant," I said, "was originally announced to be Square Enix's first multi-platform game. But the PlayStation 3 version hasn't come out yet. Is it still happening?"

Silence.

No one wants to speak. Finally, someone ventures: "Well, the PC version came out this week."

Me: "Yes, it did."

More silence. Everyone's kind of glancing around.

Takai: "Well, as for the PS3 version, I can't say anything about that."

Me: "Alright, then."

http://blog.wired.com/games/2009/03/gdc-the-last-re.html

i guess they canceled this game for the ps3

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poor PS3. has no friends.
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#3 Giancar
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I was going to post this... WTF SE :|
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#4 UndertakerVsHBK
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The game sucked anyway on 360, and PC. Still i'm sure some are disappointed if this is true.
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#5 Kahuna_1
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I was going to post this... WTF SE :|Giancar

They dont like making money. Releasing JRPGs on the PC and 360 where WRPGs are big. No one can understand them at the moment.

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#6 BioShockOwnz
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Good game on PC (and on 360 if you install it to your HDD), but seriously, there's better out there. Don't worry. I mean, it stinks for those starved for another JRPG, but it's not like you'll die if you don't get it. It's merely good, nothing more.

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#7 SynisterGamer
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They probably realized too late that The Last Remnant sucked, and wanted to spare PS3 owners :P

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#8 GreenGoblin2099
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I think SE realized how bad it flopped and they don't want to release it anymore. Good news for the PS3, it won't have that crappy game on its library.

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#9 hakanakumono
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That's really weird. The fact that they're not allowed to talk about it is interesting.

Maybe Square Enix did make a deal with Microsoft after all and LR was part of it.

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#10 leadernator
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poor PS3. has no friends.Zero5000X

Oh well. They gain some, they lose some.

Ninja Gaiden 2 for instance, is an example of a new friend to the Playstation family :P Looks like they're becoming best buds too.

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#11 HoldThePhone
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does anyone even want it?
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#12 TREAL_Since
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It seems to me that somebody paid for exclusivity...That's how the project costs were covered.
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#13 TREAL_Since
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does anyone even want it?HoldThePhone
I think PS3 owners want games like SO4 or TOV much more.
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#14 Trinners
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eww Last Remnant, I don't want that sacrilegious abomination in my divine ps3.

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Btw, TLR received an 8.0 on PC, so yeah, it's a good game, but it had flaws on 360, so that's why it scored lower.

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#16 creeping-deth87
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This really sucks, I was hoping it would make it to the ps3 without the technical hick ups it had on the 360.
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#17 miladesn2
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The game sucked anyway on 360, and PC. Still i'm sure some are disappointed if this is true.UndertakerVsHBK
Actually the PC version got a 8 here at GS so I don't think it's a bad JRPG since the highest rated JRPG of this gen is 8.5 (VC & ToV). This score actually makes it a better game than SO4 & LO.
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#18 Brainhunter
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The game was a technical mess on the 360, and that's considering that the 360 is a much more dev-friendly console to third-party developers, especially since it is a scaled-down PC platform. Add the fact that the Last Remnant runs off the Unreal Engine 3.0 which is already optimized for the PC platform, and then you'd have to consider how poorly performing the PS3 development must have gone through. Ah well, good thing I got my trusty PC. It just ain't the same playing it on a console through : jRPGs are meant to be played on consoles, not on PCs >.>.
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#19 SynisterGamer
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[QUOTE="UndertakerVsHBK"]The game sucked anyway on 360, and PC. Still i'm sure some are disappointed if this is true.miladesn2
Actually the PC version got a 8 here at GS so I don't think it's a bad JRPG since the highest rated JRPG of this gen is 8.5 (VC & ToV). This score actually makes it a better game than SO4 & LO.

Scores mean jack to me, Lost Odyssey is the most underated game this generation.

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]I was going to post this... WTF SE :|

Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?
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Ugh, disappointing.

It really sucks to be a JRPG lover with the PS3 as your only console.:(

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]I was going to post this... WTF SE :|HarlockJC
Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?

nope :(

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Giancar"]I was going to post this... WTF SE :|

Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?

mmm I think not IIRC :?
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Giancar"]I was going to post this... WTF SE :|

Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?

I can't think of any. I don't understand what's happened with SE this gen.
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Giancar"]I was going to post this... WTF SE :|resevl4rlz

Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?

nope :(

That is a huge step down from the support last gen. The Wii and 360 have each had at least four games. I wonder why Square has not done more. You would think they are missing a ton of money in Japan.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Giancar"]I was going to post this... WTF SE :|

Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?

I can't think of any. I don't understand what's happened with SE this gen.

New person in charge....I was reading awhile back they are making like 2 to 3 times the number of titles, well at the same time not improving their profit margins.
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#27 Couth_
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That is akward. Maybe it's not coming to PS3? Or he's just not working on it. This article explains some troubles. Pretty much it was a mistake using the unreal engine

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=22918

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Giancar"]I was going to post this... WTF SE :|

Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?

Well atleast we know they are definately making 2, I just hope the world doesn't blow up before they finally release
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?

I can't think of any. I don't understand what's happened with SE this gen.

New person in charge....I was reading awhile back they are making like 2 to 3 times the number of titles, well at the same time not improving their profit margins.

they've been banking on both the PSP and DS, and FF13 and Versus have been in PS3 development for a while square is still on fire IMO
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#30 Giancar
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[QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?HarlockJC

nope :(

That is a huge step down from the support last gen. The Wii and 360 have each had at least four games. I wonder why Square has not done more. You would think they are missing a ton of money in Japan.

they are losing tons of money but in the other hand, we really don't know what kind of contracts they made with MS (MS doesn't see wii as a direct competition) It's time for sony to make 1st paty jrpgs devs. They really can't rely on SE anymore
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?

I can't think of any. I don't understand what's happened with SE this gen.

New person in charge....I was reading awhile back they are making like 2 to 3 times the number of titles, well at the same time not improving their profit margins.

Doesn't seem so smart to me but maybe there will be a big pay off. All I know is that SE has pretty much given the Sony fans the finger this gen.
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PS3 owners you are not missing out IMO. Believe me you don't want the "Broken Remnant on the PS3"

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] I can't think of any. I don't understand what's happened with SE this gen.Ibacai
New person in charge....I was reading awhile back they are making like 2 to 3 times the number of titles, well at the same time not improving their profit margins.

Doesn't seem so smart to me but maybe there will be a big pay off. All I know is that SE has pretty much given the Sony fans the finger this gen.

Not really.

It's really just that Tri-Ace develops games much faster than Square. And Square develops lots of varied games in order to support the high cost of XIII and VXIII development on sony systems.

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

nope :(

Giancar

That is a huge step down from the support last gen. The Wii and 360 have each had at least four games. I wonder why Square has not done more. You would think they are missing a ton of money in Japan.

they are losing tons of money but in the other hand, we really don't know what kind of contracts they made with MS (MS doesn't see wii as a direct competition) It's time for sony to make 1st paty jrpgs devs. They really can't rely on SE anymore

This. :o

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#35 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

nope :(

Giancar

That is a huge step down from the support last gen. The Wii and 360 have each had at least four games. I wonder why Square has not done more. You would think they are missing a ton of money in Japan.

they are losing tons of money but in the other hand, we really don't know what kind of contracts they made with MS (MS doesn't see wii as a direct competition) It's time for sony to make 1st paty jrpgs devs. They really can't rely on SE anymore

Sony might as well, they have done really well in 1st party devs in all other games. And the 1st party games are actually turning out to be the best games this gen.

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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] New person in charge....I was reading awhile back they are making like 2 to 3 times the number of titles, well at the same time not improving their profit margins. hakanakumono

Doesn't seem so smart to me but maybe there will be a big pay off. All I know is that SE has pretty much given the Sony fans the finger this gen.

Not really.

It's really just that Tri-Ace develops games much faster than Square. And Square develops lots of varied games in order to support the high cost of XIII and VXIII development on sony systems.

Ok, but Last Remnant isn't Tri-Ace.
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#37 EPaul
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WTH, SE you haven't release a single game on the PS3 yet..........

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"] Doesn't seem so smart to me but maybe there will be a big pay off. All I know is that SE has pretty much given the Sony fans the finger this gen.Chutebox

Not really.

It's really just that Tri-Ace develops games much faster than Square. And Square develops lots of varied games in order to support the high cost of XIII and VXIII development on sony systems.

Ok, but Last Remnant isn't Tri-Ace.

Yes, but its supposed to be a multiplat.

Judging from what people have revealed in this thread, the only reason LR may have gone to the 360 first (and now seemingly at all) is because the Unreal Engine is easier to put on 360. Or am I completely off base?

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Not really.

It's really just that Tri-Ace develops games much faster than Square. And Square develops lots of varied games in order to support the high cost of XIII and VXIII development on sony systems.

hakanakumono

Ok, but Last Remnant isn't Tri-Ace.

Yes, but its supposed to be a multiplat.

Judging from what people have revealed in this thread, the only reason LR may have gone to the 360 first (and now seemingly at all) is because the Unreal Engine is easier to put on 360. Or am I completely off base?

I couldn't tell ya, all I know is there are 0 SE games on Ps3 lol.
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] That is a huge step down from the support last gen. The Wii and 360 have each had at least four games. I wonder why Square has not done more. You would think they are missing a ton of money in Japan.Chutebox

they are losing tons of money but in the other hand, we really don't know what kind of contracts they made with MS (MS doesn't see wii as a direct competition) It's time for sony to make 1st paty jrpgs devs. They really can't rely on SE anymore

Sony might as well, they have done really well in 1st party devs in all other games. And the 1st party games are actually turning out to be the best games this gen.

Yeah, thats definitely true. Sony can definitely pull it off if they try. Maybe a thread should be started in the PS3 board with a link to a petition. It's not so ridiculous an idea that Sony shouldn't listen.

I believe they've actaully made a few RPGs for the PSP that didn't come out in the states (one or two).

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#41 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Ok, but Last Remnant isn't Tri-Ace.Chutebox

Yes, but its supposed to be a multiplat.

Judging from what people have revealed in this thread, the only reason LR may have gone to the 360 first (and now seemingly at all) is because the Unreal Engine is easier to put on 360. Or am I completely off base?

I couldn't tell ya, all I know is there are 0 SE games on Ps3 lol.

That'll change soon. For Japan at least.

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#42 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] That is a huge step down from the support last gen. The Wii and 360 have each had at least four games. I wonder why Square has not done more. You would think they are missing a ton of money in Japan.Chutebox

they are losing tons of money but in the other hand, we really don't know what kind of contracts they made with MS (MS doesn't see wii as a direct competition) It's time for sony to make 1st paty jrpgs devs. They really can't rely on SE anymore

Sony might as well, they have done really well in 1st party devs in all other games. And the 1st party games are actually turning out to be the best games this gen.

Sony 1st party games are along the best in the industry... So they really need to focus now in more eastern 1st party devs. This could be huge in japan if done correctly. Heck it could even have a great impact in the west. Besides right now SE is not as good as it used to be. And other dev are doing a great job, but not as spectacular as the old Square. I see here an oportunity, and SOny with its determination in 1st party devs and appeal to the eatern market could do great with it
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It's Microsoft's fault. They're buying off SE... Making SE sellouts.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] they are losing tons of money but in the other hand, we really don't know what kind of contracts they made with MS (MS doesn't see wii as a direct competition) It's time for sony to make 1st paty jrpgs devs. They really can't rely on SE anymoreGiancar

Sony might as well, they have done really well in 1st party devs in all other games. And the 1st party games are actually turning out to be the best games this gen.

Sony 1st party games are along the best in the industry... So they really need to focus now in more eastern 1st party devs. This could be huge in japan if done correctly. Heck it could even have a great impact in the west. Besides right now SE is not as good as it used to be. And other dev are doing a great job, but not as spectacular as the old Square. I see here an oportunity, and SOny with its determination in 1st party devs and appeal to the eatern market could do great with it

Well, the thing about SE is that the writer of XII left halfway through. The game underwent serious development issues.

But yeah, I totally agree. This is the right time for Sony to enter the JRPG market.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] they are losing tons of money but in the other hand, we really don't know what kind of contracts they made with MS (MS doesn't see wii as a direct competition) It's time for sony to make 1st paty jrpgs devs. They really can't rely on SE anymoreGiancar

Sony might as well, they have done really well in 1st party devs in all other games. And the 1st party games are actually turning out to be the best games this gen.

Sony 1st party games are along the best in the industry... So they really need to focus now in more eastern 1st party devs. This could be huge in japan if done correctly. Heck it could even have a great impact in the west. Besides right now SE is not as good as it used to be. And other dev are doing a great job, but not as spectacular as the old Square. I see here an oportunity, and SOny with its determination in 1st party devs and appeal to the eatern market could do great with it

It's actually silly for them not to do it. Everything is going to be decided by 1st party games since most everyone is going multi. I see no reason why they wouldn't.
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Sony might as well, they have done really well in 1st party devs in all other games. And the 1st party games are actually turning out to be the best games this gen.

Chutebox

Sony 1st party games are along the best in the industry... So they really need to focus now in more eastern 1st party devs. This could be huge in japan if done correctly. Heck it could even have a great impact in the west. Besides right now SE is not as good as it used to be. And other dev are doing a great job, but not as spectacular as the old Square. I see here an oportunity, and SOny with its determination in 1st party devs and appeal to the eatern market could do great with it

It's actually silly for them not to do it. Everything is going to be decided by 1st party games since most everyone is going multi. I see no reason why they wouldn't.

They just need to get a clue and think of it first. o_o;

Of course, aren't they the ones who did the Arc the Lad series? Maybe thats why they're hesitant. Something tells me it didn't do too hot on the PS2.

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#47 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Giancar"] Sony 1st party games are along the best in the industry... So they really need to focus now in more eastern 1st party devs. This could be huge in japan if done correctly. Heck it could even have a great impact in the west. Besides right now SE is not as good as it used to be. And other dev are doing a great job, but not as spectacular as the old Square. I see here an oportunity, and SOny with its determination in 1st party devs and appeal to the eatern market could do great with ithakanakumono

It's actually silly for them not to do it. Everything is going to be decided by 1st party games since most everyone is going multi. I see no reason why they wouldn't.

They just need to get a clue and think of it first. o_o;

Of course, aren't they the ones who did the Arc the Lad series? Maybe thats why they're hesitant. Something tells me it didn't do too hot on the PS2.

but the ps2 was filled with jrpgs, and quality ones the ps3 in the other hand :\ still they need to invest heavily in a 1st party jrpg dev, like they did with GG man it would be sooooo great
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#48 kage_53
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That is akward. Maybe it's not coming to PS3? Or he's just not working on it. This article explains some troubles. Pretty much it was a mistake using the unreal engine

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=22918

Couth_

Didn't Epic already fix the problems regarding UE3 compatibilty with the PS3 ?

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This sucks for JRPG/Sony fans.

As for me, I have my DS, which is drowning in JRPGs at the moment.

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#50 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]

That is akward. Maybe it's not coming to PS3? Or he's just not working on it. This article explains some troubles. Pretty much it was a mistake using the unreal engine

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=22918

kage_53

Didn't Epic already fix the problems regarding UE3 compatibilty with the PS3 ?

UTIII seemed to work just fine.