Last Remnant on PS3?? SquareEnix' Awkward Silence

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#51 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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[QUOTE="kage_53"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]

That is akward. Maybe it's not coming to PS3? Or he's just not working on it. This article explains some troubles. Pretty much it was a mistake using the unreal engine

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=22918

Chutebox

Didn't Epic already fix the problems regarding UE3 compatibilty with the PS3 ?

UTIII seemed to work just fine.

besides the fact that the game just sucked, although not many people got to witness the beauty of its graphics
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#52 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="kage_53"] Didn't Epic already fix the problems regarding UE3 compatibilty with the PS3 ?

ULTIMATEZWARRIO

UTIII seemed to work just fine.

besides the fact that the game just sucked, although not many people got to witness the beauty of its graphics

Yea, it was pretty bad. But eye candy nonetheless.

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#53 abuabed
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I'm currently playing it on my PC, good game but it lacks some stuff to make it very good for me, I hope SE ports it to the PS3 so that a lot more people can try it out. They better not disappoint us with FFXIII and VS otherwise SE will be screwed.
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#54 BlackDianWei
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Sony should break their ties with square-enix and focus on 1st party jrpg's as the above poster says. IMHO, I think MS has bought more than exclusive rights to certain games. It would have been better if Square Enix would have used the white engine than the Unreal Engine because the unreal engine is used mainly for games like Gears and Unreal Tournament.

Like Ibicai said sony has been shady with the PS3 but there might be something more to this.

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#55 jasonharris48
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It's Microsoft's fault. They're buying off SE... Making SE sellouts.XenogearsMaster
How is that? Most of Square Enix titles have come out on the DS and Wii this gen :roll:

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#56 world69star69
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LEGEND OF DRAGOON!!! == Greatest RPG Ever on PS1 besides FF games! It was Sony 1st party done around year 2000 for ps1, 4 discs a killer game to rival anything square ever has done. I love that game. I want a sequal bad and I want the ps1 version on psn now!!! What happened to these devs? GS only gave it a 6.5, stupid GS, it was my favorite rpg!
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#57 XturnalS
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Well I guess its ok for us PS3 owning non-JRPG fans. But I have no idea why they would release LR for the 360 and then PC....

I think they wanted a challenge or something this gen and they said, "whut ifz we dnt releaze a gamez fur teh ps3 ndz c how it goez?" Even JRPGs are popular in japan and the PS3 has more then double the amount the 360 does...

So in other words I have no ****** idea why.

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#58 Gxgear
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Can't say I'm surprised.

O well it's only Last Remnant. Star Ocean on the other hand...:cry:

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#59 SolidTy
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saw this little bit of information when looking for some new info on The Last Remnant. SquareEnix's response is just ridiculous. It's not looking too good.

GDC: The Last Remnant PS3 and the Awkwardest SilenceGDC: The Last Remnant PS3 and the Awkwardest Silence

SAN FRANCISCO -- So we were in the Last Remnant panel at GDC, where Square Enix's Hiroshi Takai and Epic's Mike Capps, among others, had just finished discussing the often difficult process of using Unreal Engine 3 to create a Japanese role-playing game.

I decide to ask a question.

"The Last Remnant," I said, "was originally announced to be Square Enix's first multi-platform game. But the PlayStation 3 version hasn't come out yet. Is it still happening?"

Silence.

No one wants to speak. Finally, someone ventures: "Well, the PC version came out this week."

Me: "Yes, it did."

More silence. Everyone's kind of glancing around.

Takai: "Well, as for the PS3 version, I can't say anything about that."

Me: "Alright, then."

http://blog.wired.com/games/2009/03/gdc-the-last-re.html

i guess they canceled this game for the ps3

resevl4rlz

Yep, it may be cancelled, or they may not be legally allowed to discuss the possibility of a PS3 version, if M$ paid for the timed rights. In any event, it didn't end up being a wonderful game, just an alright one, so I guess all's well that ends well.

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#60 PSdual_wielder
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lol, I like their awkward response, its as if they really didn't anticipate someone to ask that question. You know, havinga "last remnant" -specific panel and all, they would've at least thought about this beforehand.

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#61 Flamestos
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Wow shows just how **** Square Enix are. At least companies like Rockstar & Bethesda have the balls to say Microsoft paid them off or funded development for certain things.
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Wow shows just how **** Square Enix are. At least companies like Rockstar & Bethesda have the balls to say Microsoft paid them off or funded development for certain things.Flamestos

Huh? I haven't seen anywhere that Microsoft has paid SE for anything. Even if they did though, it's business, you pay for a product or service. It's a legitimate thing to do.

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#63 Dahaka-UK
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Lets just face it people... TLR was average crap and average crap doesn't cut it in this day and age. I'm not surprised square-enix are silent they probably know it's not up to squaresoft standards and was a big waste of money. I don't think the qualitiness of what squaresoft created can be restored within square-enix, their just too damn money hungry.

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#64 Flamestos
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[QUOTE="Flamestos"]Wow shows just how **** Square Enix are. At least companies like Rockstar & Bethesda have the balls to say Microsoft paid them off or funded development for certain things.lundy86_4

Huh? I haven't seen anywhere that Microsoft has paid SE for anything. Even if they did though, it's business, you pay for a product or service. It's a legitimate thing to do.

I don't think it's wrong to be paid for something and I never said it was, did I? Fact is the game was announced multiplatform from the start and SE has been acting really shady and basically acting like the PS3 version doesn't exist leaving their PS3 fans dangling there waiting. At least say th game is cancelled or give a freaking time frame for it. I recall seeing a interview with SE saying they are certain "factors" that makes games like SO4 not come to the PS3 and from the way it was worded didn't make it seem like development issues especially since Tri-Ace has already said the engine is multiplatform.
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Flamestos"]Wow shows just how **** Square Enix are. At least companies like Rockstar & Bethesda have the balls to say Microsoft paid them off or funded development for certain things.Flamestos

Huh? I haven't seen anywhere that Microsoft has paid SE for anything. Even if they did though, it's business, you pay for a product or service. It's a legitimate thing to do.

I don't think it's wrong to be paid for something and I never said it was, did I? Fact is the game was announced multiplatform from the start and SE has been acting really shady and basically acting like the PS3 version doesn't exist leaving their PS3 fans dangling there waiting. At least say th game is cancelled or give a freaking time frame for it. I recall seeing a interview with SE saying they are certain "factors" that makes games like SO4 not come to the PS3 and from the way it was worded didn't make it seem like development issues especially since Tri-Ace has already said the engine is multiplatform.

Nope you didn'nt say that, I was just giving my view. You're right though, keeping this quiet is a disservice to their PS3 fans. I somehow think it is still being worked on, and there may be some problems, otherwise I could see them coming flat-out and saying some bull, like "the development time and effort, along with the funding, is not viable to complete this project at this time"... although it would probably impact their stock value

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#66 Flamestos
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Huh? I haven't seen anywhere that Microsoft has paid SE for anything. Even if they did though, it's business, you pay for a product or service. It's a legitimate thing to do.

I don't think it's wrong to be paid for something and I never said it was, did I? Fact is the game was announced multiplatform from the start and SE has been acting really shady and basically acting like the PS3 version doesn't exist leaving their PS3 fans dangling there waiting. At least say th game is cancelled or give a freaking time frame for it. I recall seeing a interview with SE saying they are certain "factors" that makes games like SO4 not come to the PS3 and from the way it was worded didn't make it seem like development issues especially since Tri-Ace has already said the engine is multiplatform.

Nope you didn'nt say that, I was just giving my view. You're right though, keeping this quiet is a disservice to their PS3 fans. I somehow think it is still being worked on, and there may be some problems, otherwise I could see them coming flat-out and saying some bull, like "the development time and effort, along with the funding, is not viable to complete this project at this time"... although it would probably impact their stock value

No problem, I don't have any problem with Microsoft buying whatever they want because like you said it's all business in the end and it's been working well for them. How Square Enix is going about handling The Last Remant like it's some big secret when it was announced for all systems in the beginning (unlike Bioshock/NG2 etc...) is ridiculous.
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#67 Nagidar
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That is strange, perhaps MS' pockets have something to do with this. hmmm.

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saw this little bit of information when looking for some new info on The Last Remnant. SquareEnix's response is just ridiculous. It's not looking too good.

GDC: The Last Remnant PS3 and the Awkwardest SilenceGDC: The Last Remnant PS3 and the Awkwardest Silence

SAN FRANCISCO -- So we were in the Last Remnant panel at GDC, where Square Enix's Hiroshi Takai and Epic's Mike Capps, among others, had just finished discussing the often difficult process of using Unreal Engine 3 to create a Japanese role-playing game.

I decide to ask a question.

"The Last Remnant," I said, "was originally announced to be Square Enix's first multi-platform game. But the PlayStation 3 version hasn't come out yet. Is it still happening?"

Silence.

No one wants to speak. Finally, someone ventures: "Well, the PC version came out this week."

Me: "Yes, it did."

More silence. Everyone's kind of glancing around.

Takai: "Well, as for the PS3 version, I can't say anything about that."

Me: "Alright, then."

http://blog.wired.com/games/2009/03/gdc-the-last-re.html

i guess they canceled this game for the ps3

resevl4rlz

IF they canceled the ps3 version of this game it is not a big loss nothing special but lag in the 360 version

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#69 Rhubarb9
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PS3 don't need a 6.5 game?

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#70 Nagidar
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PS3 don't need a 6.5 game?

Rhubarb9

Yea, because the PS3 has enough of them already, right?

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#71 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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omg SE are so evilz and biased against teh pstriple lololololol

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#72 Floppy_Jim
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http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3302/mstruckloadofmoney.jpg

^Maybe this explains the lack of a PS3 version :o

I haven't heard many positive things about TLR so it sounds like cows aren't missing out on much.

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#73 WilliamRLBaker
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Ps3 doesn't work well with UE3 regardless of the state of UT3 of which UT3 ps3 was inferior in nearly every way to the pc and 360 version the only reason it still gets map support from epic is because they don't want to charge for maps on the 360 (though they are perfectly willing to do this on the ps3? lol) but as for that we wont see last remnant on ps3 cause it will just be too hard to get it to work at all on ps3 (it barely worked on 360)

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#74 Disturbed123
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Im sorry, but Last Remnant? I got that for 360 and it sucked BAD

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#75 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

PS3 don't need a 6.5 game?

Nagidar

Yea, because the PS3 has enough of them already, right?



it has less than wii and x360
right, PS3 owners have higher quality standards.

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#76 Silent-Hal
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That's wierd. I'd at least like the option of being able to play this but I guess it's no big loss.
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

PS3 don't need a 6.5 game?

Rhubarb9

Yea, because the PS3 has enough of them already, right?



it has less than wii and x360
right, PS3 owners have higher quality standards.

You mean lower standards?

MGS4 is NOT a 10.

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#78 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

PS3 don't need a 6.5 game?

Rhubarb9

Yea, because the PS3 has enough of them already, right?



it has less than wii and x360
right, PS3 owners have higher quality standards.

The PS3 has alot less games then both the Wii and 360, but at the end of the day, the 360 has more AAA, AA and A's then the PS3. (PC beating the snot out of all of them of course)

Higher standards eh? :lol: Do you actually think devs give a **** about the consumer? They don't give a ****, all they care about is selling games, as long as the game sells, they're happy.

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#79 TheSystemLord1
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Ugh, disappointing.

It really sucks to be a JRPG lover with the PS3 as your only console.:(

UnrighteousFury
Valkyria Chronicles was really good, no reason to be upset just yet.
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#80 bdum_pshhh
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seeing as the majority of the gaming community think it's average at best, not really a big loss IMO.
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#81 Lionheart08
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Dude Square, WTF man? I guess them claiming to spread their games across all the platforms evenly was bunch of BS.

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#82 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Yea, because the PS3 has enough of them already, right?

Nagidar



it has less than wii and x360
right, PS3 owners have higher quality standards.

The PS3 has alot less games then both the Wii and 360, but at the end of the day, the 360 has more AAA, AA and A's then the PS3. (PC beating the snot out of all of them of course)

Higher standards eh? :lol: Do you actually think devs give a **** about the consumer? They don't give a ****, all they care about is selling games, as long as the game sells, they're happy.

keep talking all you want, PS3 owners still don't want that mediocre game

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#83 AnnoyedDragon
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I see as usual when there is a possibility a game won't appear on a system; it is crap and they didn't want it anyway.

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#84 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

it has less than wii and x360
right, PS3 owners have higher quality standards.

Rhubarb9

The PS3 has alot less games then both the Wii and 360, but at the end of the day, the 360 has more AAA, AA and A's then the PS3. (PC beating the snot out of all of them of course)

Higher standards eh? :lol: Do you actually think devs give a **** about the consumer? They don't give a ****, all they care about is selling games, as long as the game sells, they're happy.

keep talking all you want, PS3 owners still don't want that mediocre game

Thats it? Thats all you can say? Wether or not PS3 owners want the game or not has nothing to do with devs releasing the game on the PS3, devs want money, and if they believe LR on the PS3 will sell, they will make it on the PS3, besides, the PC version of LR scored an 8.

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#85 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Yea, because the PS3 has enough of them already, right?

Aljosa23



it has less than wii and x360
right, PS3 owners have higher quality standards.

You mean lower standards?

MGS4 is NOT a 10.



lol
It IS a 10.
and you dislike KZ2 so of course our standards will seem low to you............
why you going off topic anyway?

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#86 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

The PS3 has alot less games then both the Wii and 360, but at the end of the day, the 360 has more AAA, AA and A's then the PS3. (PC beating the snot out of all of them of course)

Higher standards eh? :lol: Do you actually think devs give a **** about the consumer? They don't give a ****, all they care about is selling games, as long as the game sells, they're happy.

Nagidar

keep talking all you want, PS3 owners still don't want that mediocre game

Thats it? Thats all you can say? Wether or not PS3 owners want the game or not has nothing to do with devs releasing the game on the PS3, devs want money, and if they believe LR on the PS3 will sell, they will make it on the PS3, besides, the PC version of LR scored an 8.



oh yeah it did, thanks
if the PC version is any indication, we'll get a AA game while X360 will settle with the 6.5 one
of course we still won't bother much with it ^^

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#87 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

keep talking all you want, PS3 owners still don't want that mediocre game

Rhubarb9

Thats it? Thats all you can say? Wether or not PS3 owners want the game or not has nothing to do with devs releasing the game on the PS3, devs want money, and if they believe LR on the PS3 will sell, they will make it on the PS3, besides, the PC version of LR scored an 8.



oh yeah it did, thanks
if the PC version is any indication, we'll get a AA game while X360 will settle with the 6.5 one
of course we still won't bother much with it ^^

Yea, apparently, the 360 version had a **** load of technical problems, but the game itself was pretty good, but don't get your hopes up, the PC version of games are almost always the superior version, but even if the PS3 version scored a 7 - 7.5, it would be nice, as long as the tech problems are fixed.

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#88 bdum_pshhh
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I see as usual when there is a possibility a game won't appear on a system; it is crap and they didn't want it anyway.

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Only in this case it's actually true.
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#89 AnnoyedDragon
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Only in this case it's actually true.bdum_pshhh

There is no way of proving sincerity, I'm just stating my interpretation.

I brought it up because some people seem generally set to bash the game in response to it possibly not going to PS3.

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#90 bdum_pshhh
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[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"]Only in this case it's actually true.AnnoyedDragon

There is no way of proving sincerity, I'm just stating my interpretation.

I brought it up because some people seem generally set to bash the game in response to it possibly not going to PS3.

I know what you mean. It's the same as when HAZE was canned for 360.
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#91 110million
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I'm really liking the PC one.. the combat is really addicting. I'd say its worthy of an AA with all the changes to the PC one.. too bad for the PS3 one..
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#92 TTDog
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Having played the game all I can say is that the lack of a PS3 version is something PS3 owners should be thankful for.

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#93 angry_fork
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To the people saying TLR is a mediocre game so it doesn't matter, that's not the point. The point is at E3 2005 the dam president guy of SE said they were commited to backing the PS3. Obviously the PS3 tanked and didn't replicate PS2's success, so they jump shipped like losers and went against what they said. Now the United States won't see a Square Enix game FOUR YEARS after the system launched. That's INSANE. It's not about them getting a mediocre game, it's the principal of the thing. They said they wanted to support all platforms and they haven't released anything on PS3 yet, it's incredible really.
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#94 nethernova
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does anyone even want it?HoldThePhone
Yes, I was hoping for a PS3 version with less technical issues. Looks like I have to buy the 360 version after all. It's a great game but I don't expect fanboys who diss everything that's not on "their" console to admit that.
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#95 CreepyBacon
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"]Only in this case it's actually true.bdum_pshhh

There is no way of proving sincerity, I'm just stating my interpretation.

I brought it up because some people seem generally set to bash the game in response to it possibly not going to PS3.

I know what you mean. It's the same as when HAZE was canned for 360.

I think NG2 is a much better example. Suddenly everyone loves it now that NGS2 is coming.

Anywho good to hear, SE should stick to the superior console and just not bother with the other. :)

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#96 Mckenna1845
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[QUOTE="miladesn2"]Actually the PC version got a 8 here at GS so I don't think it's a bad JRPG since the highest rated JRPG of this gen is 8.5 (VC & ToV). This score actually makes it a better game than SO4 & LO.SynisterGamer

Scores mean jack to me, Lost Odyssey is the most underated game this generation.

eternal sonata gets no love, that got a 8.5, and so far i'm enjoying it. It's multiplat too, which is probably why no one mentions it.
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#97 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]I was going to post this... WTF SE :|HarlockJC
Has Square yet to make any games for the PS3?

That would be a big yes. FFXIII will be the first Square game on the PS3.

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#98 Nagidar
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To the people saying TLR is a mediocre game so it doesn't matter, that's not the point. The point is at E3 2005 the dam president guy of SE said they were commited to backing the PS3. Obviously the PS3 tanked and didn't replicate PS2's success, so they jump shipped like losers and went against what they said. Now the United States won't see a Square Enix game FOUR YEARS after the system launched. That's INSANE. It's not about them getting a mediocre game, it's the principal of the thing. They said they wanted to support all platforms and they haven't released anything on PS3 yet, it's incredible really.angry_fork

Like it or not, its business, business' are about making money, if SE believed the 360 would net them more money, they will focus on that platform, thats not to say MS didn't have a hand in it, but either way, its business.

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#99 110million
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[QUOTE="SynisterGamer"]

[QUOTE="miladesn2"]Actually the PC version got a 8 here at GS so I don't think it's a bad JRPG since the highest rated JRPG of this gen is 8.5 (VC & ToV). This score actually makes it a better game than SO4 & LO.Mckenna1845

Scores mean jack to me, Lost Odyssey is the most underated game this generation.

eternal sonata gets no love, that got a 8.5, and so far i'm enjoying it. It's multiplat too, which is probably why no one mentions it.

Seems a lot of these recent RPGs are love or hate, I bought Eternal Sonata knowing exactly what it was, I love Chopin's pieces for example, so I knew what to expect, and I was satisfied with the game. The Last Remnant seems to be like that to, IGN gave the PC one a 6.8 and Gamespot gave it an 8, having played it quite a bit, I have to side with Gamespot here.
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#100 Lionheart08
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It's Microsoft's fault. They're buying off SE... Making SE sellouts.XenogearsMaster

I don't think that's a very fair assessment. Remember, Square did jump ship from nintendo to Sony back when the PS1 came out, so I don't blame Microsoft for trying to make their console more appealing.

I do however that Square won't man up and stand behind their decisions. If they decided to cancel TLR for the PS3, yeah it sucks, but they should at least give a decent answer why instead of trying to dodge the question.