Latest Pach Attack Claims Most Multiplats are Better on 360.

well, he DID state that it was a guess, and I think it was a pretty good one at that, the reasoning that is.

the strength of the 360 rolls on.

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

Pach may be off with his predictions most of the time, but he never lies.

But then again, we all know that most multiplats are better on the 360.

What's shocking is how much the PS3 held back GTA4.

XboximusPrime

How the hell did it hold it back? I want proof, not Fanboy BS. Did you ever think that R* isnt that great at deving on multiple consoles at the same time?

don't look now...but friend, ur a cow now. damn shame....

He's wrong?shakmaster13

no he's not....

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

How the hell did it hold it back? I want proof, not Fanboy BS. Did you ever think that R* isnt that great at deving on multiple consoles at the same time?

XboximusPrime

then why the hell did he say the PS3 version held it back?

it was the disk space that held rockstar back a little with making the game on the 360. development problems for the game(if we go by Patcher) were brought on by the complex nature of the PS3.

shivy claims that pach is nothing more then a moron.. yes... people know this already.. why are people still listenin to this tard.. i havent a clue, not one.

All the good ones are better on the PS3, and the rest are so marginally better on the 360 you have to be kind of obsessive to really care. GamingZuru

all the good ones....really?? lmao...well enjoy those 4 games. 360 users will enjoy the hundred or so rest. and obsessive goes hand and hand on system wars. u should know, u seem a lil obsessed urself cow.

[QUOTE="GamingZuru"]All the good ones are better on the PS3, and the rest are so marginally better on the 360 you have to be kind of obsessive to really care. LucidJubilation

all the good ones....really?? lmao...well enjoy those 4 games. 360 users will enjoy the hundred or so rest. and obsessive goes hand and hand on system wars. u should know, u seem a lil obsessed urself cow.

For those of you who don't know, Pach Attack is a Q&A show on Gametrailers.com hosted by Michael Pachter , a game industry financial analyst for Wedbush Securities.

On his latest 128th episode a gamer asked why most multiplat games, most recently being Red Dead Redemption, look and play better on 360.

Now Pach honestly stated he only played the 360 version, and has no info about any inferior gameplay on the PS3 version, but he said because the PS3 has 7 separate cores to the 360's 3 sync cores it's easier to go port from 3 cores to 7, but porting from 7 cores to 3 is much harder. This has been said that many games in the past and I am sure some still are not using PS3 full power. They just TRY to get games as close as possible then launch. With Xbox 360 being the main console to program for and porting to PS3. THIS IS NOT TRUE with big development games like DA:Orgin, Batlefield: BC2, MW2, ... These games push both consoles to a point and these games look even on both.

He went on to say that Rockstar games had 360's version of GTA 4 ready to release, but the PS3 version was very buggy and because Sony had a contract with Rockstar that they couldn't release GTA 4 on 360 first, 360 fans had to wait another 6 months for Rockstar to work out the bugs of the PS3 version. GTA came out a while ago and yes PS3 WAS harder to program for. It was and is easier to get more out of Xbox 360. BUT when pushed to their limites PS3 comes out on top.

I've heard many times how developers would say that the 360 is the easiest system to program for, because the architecture is nearly identical to a PC, but the PS3 is a constant uphill battle to program for,(when PS3 first came out the diffrences were HUGE, not not so much as tools and techniques are multiplying. Still it does take some work, but the results speek for themselves.) so i guess that settles that question, anyone who owns both 360 and PS3 just save the PS3 for the exclusives and get all the multiplats on 360, why have a lesser game if you don't have to. (again this is true for limited games with not large budgets. otherwise they will be the same, and Developers who push the abilities with PS3 will get extra benifits from it. )

Slimmin360

So in the end we have known that

1. PS3 is DIFFICULT to program for
2. Xbox 360 had a programing kit and language (Direct X 9c) far before PS3 came out
3. the environment is simular to a PC and thus developers have had plenty of experience with that enviornment
4. 3 cores are easier to develop for than 1+7 simi cores.
5. Xbox 360 has been out a year LONGER

YET PS3 game UC2 bagan the campain showing what PS3 can do ifDEVELOPERS push it with good programing.

It has taken a few years and HUGE $$$$ investment from MS to come close to what PS3 shown that it can do.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]

For those of you who don't know, Pach Attack is a Q&A show on Gametrailers.com hosted by Michael Pachter , a game industry financial analyst for Wedbush Securities.

On his latest 128th episode a gamer asked why most multiplat games, most recently being Red Dead Redemption, look and play better on 360.

Now Pach honestly stated he only played the 360 version, and has no info about any inferior gameplay on the PS3 version, but he said because the PS3 has 7 separate cores to the 360's 3 sync cores it's easier to go port from 3 cores to 7, but porting from 7 cores to 3 is much harder. This has been said that many games in the past and I am sure some still are not using PS3 full power. They just TRY to get games as close as possible then launch. With Xbox 360 being the main console to program for and porting to PS3. THIS IS NOT TRUE with big development games like DA:Orgin, Batlefield: BC2, MW2, ... These games push both consoles to a point and these games look even on both.

He went on to say that Rockstar games had 360's version of GTA 4 ready to release, but the PS3 version was very buggy and because Sony had a contract with Rockstar that they couldn't release GTA 4 on 360 first, 360 fans had to wait another 6 months for Rockstar to work out the bugs of the PS3 version. GTA came out a while ago and yes PS3 WAS harder to program for. It was and is easier to get more out of Xbox 360. BUT when pushed to their limites PS3 comes out on top.

I've heard many times how developers would say that the 360 is the easiest system to program for, because the architecture is nearly identical to a PC, but the PS3 is a constant uphill battle to program for,(when PS3 first came out the diffrences were HUGE, not not so much as tools and techniques are multiplying. Still it does take some work, but the results speek for themselves.) so i guess that settles that question, anyone who owns both 360 and PS3 just save the PS3 for the exclusives and get all the multiplats on 360, why have a lesser game if you don't have to. (again this is true for limited games with not large budgets. otherwise they will be the same, and Developers who push the abilities with PS3 will get extra benifits from it. )

Ravenlore_basic

So in the end we have known that

1. PS3 is DIFFICULT to program for
2. Xbox 360 had a programing kit and language (Direct X 9c) far before PS3 came out
3. the environment is simular to a PC and thus developers have had plenty of experience with that enviornment
4. 3 cores are easier to develop for than 1+7 simi cores.
5. Xbox 360 has been out a year LONGER

YET PS3 game UC2 bagan the campain showing what PS3 can do ifDEVELOPERS push it with good programing.

It has taken a few years and HUGE $$$$ investment from MS to come close to what PS3 shown that it can do.

why do ps3 users ring things dry so much...the same excuses time after time and Uncharted 2 lol. its always the same crutches everytime lol.

He went on to say that Rockstar games had 360's version of GTA 4 ready to release, but the PS3 version was very buggy and because Sony had a contract with Rockstar that they couldn't release GTA 4 on 360 first, 360 fans had to wait another 6 months for Rockstar to work out the bugs of the PS3 version.

Slimmin360

sounds like what PS3 owners had to do with final fantasy XIII.

it's been known that games developed for ps3 and ported to 360 look better on PS3. and games that are developed for 360 and ported to PS3 look better on 360. Since the majority of multiplats are developed for 360, it's not an outrageous claim that the majority of the games look better on that console.

again, patcher with the wild claims or the painfully obvious

[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

So in the end we have known that

1. PS3 is DIFFICULT to program for
2. Xbox 360 had a programing kit and language (Direct X 9c) far before PS3 came out
3. the environment is simular to a PC and thus developers have had plenty of experience with that enviornment
4. 3 cores are easier to develop for than 1+7 simi cores.
5. Xbox 360 has been out a year LONGER

YET PS3 game UC2 bagan the campain showing what PS3 can do ifDEVELOPERS push it with good programing.

It has taken a few years and HUGE $$$$ investment from MS to come close to what PS3 shown that it can do.

LucidJubilation

why do ps3 users ring things dry so much...the same excuses time after time and Uncharted 2 lol. its always the same crutches everytime lol.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

Pach may be off with his predictions most of the time, but he never lies.

But then again, we all know that most multiplats are better on the 360.

What's shocking is how much the PS3 held back GTA4.

LucidJubilation

How the hell did it hold it back? I want proof, not Fanboy BS. Did you ever think that R* isnt that great at deving on multiple consoles at the same time?

don't look now...but friend, ur a cow now. damn shame....

I am? if your saying I am, how the hell am I a cow now? because I have common freakin sense? R* mainly only deved on PS2 back in the day save for games like Max Payne or wahtever. They were proficent in PS3 hardware deving. Now, they go to this gen where they have to dev on two different consoles simulataneously, and I dont think they up to that quite just yet. Even pachter made this point in his video. So again, how the hell am I a cow now?

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

Pach may be off with his predictions most of the time, but he never lies.

But then again, we all know that most multiplats are better on the 360.

What's shocking is how much the PS3 held back GTA4.

LucidJubilation

How the hell did it hold it back? I want proof, not Fanboy BS. Did you ever think that R* isnt that great at deving on multiple consoles at the same time?

don't look now...but friend, ur a cow now. damn shame....

and I think your a fool. Your throwing around the cow name like it was candy at a parade. Do you even know what that term even means? or do you simply just call people that who disagree with you or people that disagree with people that arehaving a negative opinonof PS3?

[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

For the most part they look the same... unless your a fanboy. But yeah you do have the odd exception like RDR, and FF13 for the PS3.

alfredooo

LOL @ denial

Well even Patcher can't be wrong every single time.SilentlyMad

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]

[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

So in the end we have known that

1. PS3 is DIFFICULT to program for
2. Xbox 360 had a programing kit and language (Direct X 9c) far before PS3 came out
3. the environment is simular to a PC and thus developers have had plenty of experience with that enviornment
4. 3 cores are easier to develop for than 1+7 simi cores.
5. Xbox 360 has been out a year LONGER

YET PS3 game UC2 bagan the campain showing what PS3 can do ifDEVELOPERS push it with good programing.

It has taken a few years and HUGE $$$$ investment from MS to come close to what PS3 shown that it can do.

JohnF111

why do ps3 users ring things dry so much...the same excuses time after time and Uncharted 2 lol. its always the same crutches everytime lol.

he says after using excuse number 13: "i dont want to pay extra for Xbox live *wah!*". but is touting the most expensive console on the market that also has psn plus now. do cows automatically go broke after buying a ps3 lol? jezuz...do you guys have a weekly meeting to go over the usual routine of excuses and whining BS?

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

How the hell did it hold it back? I want proof, not Fanboy BS. Did you ever think that R* isnt that great at deving on multiple consoles at the same time?

XboximusPrime

don't look now...but friend, ur a cow now. damn shame....

I am? if your saying I am, how the hell am I a cow now? because I have common freakin sense? R* mainly only deved on PS2 back in the day save for games like Max Payne or wahtever. They were proficent in PS3 hardware deving. Now, they go to this gen where they have to dev on two different consoles simulataneously, and I dont think they up to that quite just yet. Even pachter made this point in his video. So again, how the hell am I a cow now?

because as of late you whine and ***** like a cow whenever someone says anything against the ps3. if u dont see it then ur delusional n the transformation is complete lol. u've lost all creditbility of being unbiased in my eyes with how you've been acting lately in these forums. n i actually used to like ur posts.

Don't be fooled into believing what fanboys claim concerning multiplats.This patcher fellow sounds like just another fanboy tool spewing out more fanboy drivil.

Multiplats for both the Xbox and PS3 are either identical or near identical to the point where you have to blow the picture 200% to see any substantial difference. Once in a blue moon, an Xbox multiplat will have the advantage (antialiasing, extra shadows, sharper resolution, and even grass lol).

If you want to talk about who has the best multiplat, the PC is the clear winner.

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

How the hell did it hold it back? I want proof, not Fanboy BS. Did you ever think that R* isnt that great at deving on multiple consoles at the same time?

XboximusPrime

don't look now...but friend, ur a cow now. damn shame....

and I think your a fool. Your throwing around the cow name like it was candy at a parade. Do you even know what that term even means? or do you simply just call people that who disagree with you or people that disagree with people that arehaving a negative opinonof PS3?

i have no idea what ur talking about here, lost me completely at the end there.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]

don't look now...but friend, ur a cow now. damn shame....

LucidJubilation

I am? if your saying I am, how the hell am I a cow now? because I have common freakin sense? R* mainly only deved on PS2 back in the day save for games like Max Payne or wahtever. They were proficent in PS3 hardware deving. Now, they go to this gen where they have to dev on two different consoles simulataneously, and I dont think they up to that quite just yet. Even pachter made this point in his video. So again, how the hell am I a cow now?

because as of late you whine and ***** like a cow whenever someone says anything against the ps3. if u dont see it then ur delusional n the transformation is complete lol. u've lost all creditbility of being unbiased in my eyes with how you've been acting lately in these forums. n i actually used to like ur posts.

yeah, im really torn up that I lost your respect. Boo hoo for me. I think you have a deep seeded hate for PS3 and its owners because you use the word Cow to basicaly mean whiner and complainer and your using the word as some kind of herectic mark. Also, im sorry, but if being a cow means not unfairly hating on something and liking it just the same as the console you like, and that makes you angry, then all i can sayis"Moo".

Now, go play some Fing games kiddo.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]

don't look now...but friend, ur a cow now. damn shame....

LucidJubilation

and I think your a fool. Your throwing around the cow name like it was candy at a parade. Do you even know what that term even means? or do you simply just call people that who disagree with you or people that disagree with people that arehaving a negative opinonof PS3?

i have no idea what ur talking about here, lost me completely at the end there.

Ive noticed that you call anyone a cow that disagree with you or dosent have a negative opinon about PS3. thats what im saying.

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

How the hell did it hold it back? I want proof, not Fanboy BS. Did you ever think that R* isnt that great at deving on multiple consoles at the same time?

XboximusPrime

don't look now...but friend, ur a cow now. damn shame....

and I think your a fool. Your throwing around the cow name like it was candy at a parade. Do you even know what that term even means? or do you simply just call people that who disagree with you or people that disagree with people that arehaving a negative opinonof PS3?

lol dude youre freakin out over like nothin. You're responding like he just slapped you in the face. He just called you a cow get over it who cares. friggen videogame websites

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]

don't look now...but friend, ur a cow now. damn shame....

iBear-

and I think your a fool. Your throwing around the cow name like it was candy at a parade. Do you even know what that term even means? or do you simply just call people that who disagree with you or people that disagree with people that arehaving a negative opinonof PS3?

lol dude youre freakin out over like nothin. You're responding like he just slapped you in the face. He just called you a cow get over it who cares. friggen videogame websites

Stupidity is still stupidity.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]

don't look now...but friend, ur a cow now. damn shame....

iBear-

and I think your a fool. Your throwing around the cow name like it was candy at a parade. Do you even know what that term even means? or do you simply just call people that who disagree with you or people that disagree with people that arehaving a negative opinonof PS3?

lol dude youre freakin out over like nothin. You're responding like he just slapped you in the face. He just called you a cow get over it who cares. friggen videogame websites

[QUOTE="iBear-"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

and I think your a fool. Your throwing around the cow name like it was candy at a parade. Do you even know what that term even means? or do you simply just call people that who disagree with you or people that disagree with people that arehaving a negative opinonof PS3?

genaroll

lol dude youre freakin out over like nothin. You're responding like he just slapped you in the face. He just called you a cow get over it who cares. friggen videogame websites

lol, and you must be a lemming for accusing someone of being acow thats defending a accused cow. BOOM.;) (this whole thing is dumb :P)

more excuses you keep seeing, but once again the 360 does better and design their console with keeping developers in mind. oh yeah!!

[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="iBear-"]

lol dude youre freakin out over like nothin. You're responding like he just slapped you in the face. He just called you a cow get over it who cares. friggen videogame websites

XboximusPrime

lol, and you must be a lemming for accusing someone of being acow thats defending a accused cow. BOOM.;) (this whole thing is dumb :P)

Yeah, and we've known this for approximately4 years now...

If the Multiplat has any online componenet then I agree 100%.

It's all about the GPUs. I found that out on TechnoBufflo's Console War stuff.

If the Multiplat has any online componenet then I agree 100%.

mojito1988

I thought this is common knowledge.

ps3 is holding the 360 back....confirmed

ps3 is holding the 360 back....confirmed

GrabTheYayo

Well, ur not a fanboy at all.

Its consoles are holding pc graphics back....confirmed

This is the same pachter that said Activision and other companies should be charging people online to play their games.

This is the same pachter that called Farmville a strategy game

Pachter is an idiot and probably the most hated person in the industry, even over Kotick.

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

ps3 is holding the 360 back....confirmed

edinsftw

Well, ur not a fanboy at all.

Its consoles are holding pc graphics back....confirmed

I hear that, I will cry if BF3 turns into consolized garbage.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] You must be a cow if your defending an accused cow.genaroll

lol, and you must be a lemming for accusing someone of being acow thats defending a accused cow. BOOM.;) (this whole thing is dumb :P)

I know, I was just messin with ya.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="fastr"] wow, good thing it doesn't have either of those things!XboximusPrime

I honestly thought that was a zing at Wii :P

I took it as a Zing at PS3.

lol, so did I.

We all know that the xbox 360 is easier to make games for and has better multiplat games including graphics, and i played RDR on ps3 and 360 both versions are nearly identical except that the ps3 version has a little bit lower textures resloution and runs slow sometimes, but the 360 has more glitches and freezes alot i rather have worse graphics than a freezing game, both versions are equal.:Djohny300

nope, it's actually the ps3 version that freezes a lot from my experience. ;)

[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]

For those of you who don't know, Pach Attack is a Q&A show on Gametrailers.com hosted by Michael Pachter , a game industry financial analyst for Wedbush Securities.

On his latest 128th episode a gamer asked why most multiplat games, most recently being Red Dead Redemption, look and play better on 360.

Now Pach honestly stated he only played the 360 version, and has no info about any inferior gameplay on the PS3 version, but he said because the PS3 has 7 separate cores to the 360's 3 sync cores it's easier to go port from 3 cores to 7, but porting from 7 cores to 3 is much harder. This has been said that many games in the past and I am sure some still are not using PS3 full power. They just TRY to get games as close as possible then launch. With Xbox 360 being the main console to program for and porting to PS3. THIS IS NOT TRUE with big development games like DA:Orgin, Batlefield: BC2, MW2, ... These games push both consoles to a point and these games look even on both.

He went on to say that Rockstar games had 360's version of GTA 4 ready to release, but the PS3 version was very buggy and because Sony had a contract with Rockstar that they couldn't release GTA 4 on 360 first, 360 fans had to wait another 6 months for Rockstar to work out the bugs of the PS3 version. GTA came out a while ago and yes PS3 WAS harder to program for. It was and is easier to get more out of Xbox 360. BUT when pushed to their limites PS3 comes out on top.

I've heard many times how developers would say that the 360 is the easiest system to program for, because the architecture is nearly identical to a PC, but the PS3 is a constant uphill battle to program for, (when PS3 first came out the diffrences were HUGE, not so much NOW as tools and techniques are multiplying. Still it does take some work, but the results speek for themselves.) so i guess that settles that question, anyone who owns both 360 and PS3 just save the PS3 for the exclusives and get all the multiplats on 360, why have a lesser game if you don't have to. (again this is true for limited games with not large budgets. otherwise they will be the same, and Developers who push the abilities with PS3 will get extra benifits from it. )

LucidJubilation

So in the end we have known that

1. PS3 is DIFFICULT to program for
2. Xbox 360 had a programing kit and language (Direct X 9c) far before PS3 came out
3. the environment is simular to a PC and thus developers have had plenty of experience with that enviornment
4. 3 cores are easier to develop for than 1+7 simi cores.
5. Xbox 360 has been out a year LONGER

YET PS3 game UC2 bagan the campain showing what PS3 can do ifDEVELOPERS push it with good programing.

It has taken a few years and HUGE $$$$ investment from MS to come close to what PS3 shown that it can do.

why do ps3 users ring things dry so much...the same excuses time after time and Uncharted 2 lol. its always the same crutches everytime lol.

LOL :question: :lol: ?? what?? I don't speak fanboy.. LOL I have really no idea what you are talking about. What excuses am I making.

I thought I stated clearly that YES Xbox has had, and continues, in some cases, to have somewhat better Multi-plat games to slightly cleaner visuals. So, I do not even know what I am making an excuse about!

Is it that publishers try to get games out the door asap and as close as possible playing, and looking the same? Is that wrong??? Is it when I said that Xbox 360 was the main console to develop on and port to PS3?? Is that wrong?? Is it when I said that Majior games like Dragon Age are basicly the same on either platform due to their big budgets, and developer abilities??

Maybe it was that I said that When pushed to the limit PS3 comes up on top... looking at exclusives this is true... OHHH is that why you said UC2! IT started with MGS4, but UC2 Looked smooth one of the main complaints about it, and continued with GOW3, Demon's Soul, Infamous...

Is it that with they year head start easy to program PC like Kits that the all powerful Xbox 360 is.... less than abile or that Developers just like to push games out as fast as they can with as little work as possible?? Still Halo 3 had a huge budget and the backing of MS and Bungie!! but... maybe thats the excuse... :lol:

i own both a ps3 and a 360 so this really doesn't matter to me but the point i'm trying to make is thatsome of you guys have been arguing the same points over and over since 06 and its starting to get old how about everybody just shut the hell up and just play what they have if you don't like 360 you don't have to play it if you don't like ps3 you don't have to play it

In addition to the known fact that the architecture of the PS3 is more difficult to program for, another reason why the PS3 version of multiplatform games may look worse is because unlike the 360, it doesn't have a built-in scaler. Most multiplatform games are natively 720P (1280x720), but most people have an HDTV with a native resolution of 1366x768. For the X-Box 360, this isn't a problem since it has a good built-in scaler. However, since the PS3 doesn't have one, a person would have to rely on the HDTV's built-in scaler, which is rarely ever good. The HDTV's poor scaling causes image distortion which can affect color production and clarity. I know this for a fact based on personal experience. There was a point where I owned both a PS3 and an X-Box 360 (I sold my 360 when I built my PC). At that time I had both versions of Resident Evil 5. Whenever I played it on the PS3, the image was less sharp and it looked as if a coat of Vaseline was smeared over the image. To get an idea of what I'm talking about, temporarily change the output resolution of your monitor (if it's an LCD) and notice the poorer image quality. I'd bet that if most people who owned a PS3 got an HDTV with a native resolution of exactly 1280x720, multiplatform games wouldn't look noticeably worse than their 360 counterparts.

Don't be fooled into believing what fanboys claim concerning multiplats.This patcher fellow sounds like just another fanboy tool spewing out more fanboy drivil.

Multiplats for both the Xbox and PS3 are either identical or near identical to the point where you have to blow the picture 200% to see any substantial difference. Once in a blue moon, an Xbox multiplat will have the advantage (antialiasing, extra shadows, sharper resolution, and even grass lol).

If you want to talk about who has the best multiplat, the PC is the clear winner.

Adamantium4k2

First of all Pachter is an unbiased game industry analyst, who happens to own all 3 consoles, he merely responded to a gamers question with his best guess as to why multiplats usually look and PLAY smoother on 360.

The gameplay is a huge factor, the biggest example is Fallout 3, it plays twice as smoothly on 360 then it does on PS3, and like it or not it is the ease of programming on the 360's part. So it turns out that the superior specs and massive storage space of Blu-ray discs have turned out to be of little consequence in this generation.

Just like when the odds were in Sony's favor last gen, it didn't matter that the original Xbox nearly doubled the specs of the PS2, the developers had the PS2 dev kit like an entire 2 years longer and already produced a few hundred titles giving the PS2 a head start and continued or started franchises that the Xbox could just not catch up with or touch as far as game quality.

Now this gen happens to be the other way around because of the 360's head start on PS3, same as always it's all what your used to, and dev's got a chance to get used to the 360 architecture first, and PS3 second.