LBP can't be done on 360

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/we-couldn-t-have-made-littlebigplanet-for-the-xbox-360-media-molecule

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~ "The design decisions on the PS3 are huge, and I'm sure you realize that having a hard drive on every unit makes a difference," he said. "That's another thing - if we didn't have a hard drive on every unit, we'd have to scale back the ambition of what you could save and do. So yes, you could make this game on the 360, but it'd be a different game. ~

So...if they just slapped a "Hard drive required" label on the front, and cut out a few textures (and whatever else is filling up the space)...they could make it for the 360?

Becouse of the harddrive ,,, Not becouse of the rest of the hardware where the power is at.

anyway why care aboute LBP , its a game that should be made for the wii so it could reach the audience it realy targets , and thats kids.

You cant deny that a game where you play as cute dolls and create cute levels is not a game thats meant to appeal to children ...

Becouse of the harddrive ,,, Not becouse of the rest of the hardware where the power is at.

anyway why care aboute LBP , its a game that should be made for the wii so it could reach the audience it realy targets , and thats kids.

You cant deny that a game where you play as cute dolls and create cute levels is not a game thats meant to appeal to children ...

ps3weee

sure because 5 - 7 year old kids will spend time creating levels and sharing them right, thats why you think LBP is targeted towards kids ???

LBP is a game which can appeal to young & older gamers... Everyone gets interested when games are fun...

[QUOTE="ps3weee"]

Becouse of the harddrive ,,, Not becouse of the rest of the hardware where the power is at.

anyway why care aboute LBP , its a game that should be made for the wii so it could reach the audience it realy targets , and thats kids.

You cant deny that a game where you play as cute dolls and create cute levels is not a game thats meant to appeal to children ...

Malta_1980

sure because 5 - 7 year old kids will spend time creating levels and sharing them right, thats why you think LBP is targeted towards kids ???

LBP is a game which can appeal to young & older gamers... Everyone gets interested when games are fun...

Exactly what kids would like to do , create their own levels and share with their friends , kids and creativity goes together perfect, lego is just one example ... kids create their own stuff with legos and are proud of it and then they show it to their firends .... This is defenitly a kids game , a great game for kids , I just cant see an adult spending 3 hours playing with cute dolls and creating cute levels , well thats just mine opinion ...

I hate to say this, but seems like sony developers always claim their exclusive game can't be done on other machine .

while microsoft never claim halo3 or geow can't be done on pc, ps3........

Ohh crap...Feel sorry for the 360 owners.MS really knows how to hurt people.Imagine a next gen console with no HDD and DVD rom :Dlesner87

budy, pc game don't have blu-ray either, but graphically way better than any next gen console games.

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="ps3weee"]

sure because 5 - 7 year old kids will spend time creating levels and sharing them right, thats why you think LBP is targeted towards kids ???

LBP is a game which can appeal to young & older gamers... Everyone gets interested when games are fun...

ps3weee

Exactly what kids would like to do , create their own levels and share with their friends , kids and creativity goes together perfect, lego is just one example ... kids create their own stuff with legos and are proud of it and then they show it to their firends .... This is defenitly a kids game , a great game for kids , I just cant see an adult spending 3 hours playing with cute dolls and creating cute levels , well thats just mine opinion ...

while respecting your opinion, I think adults will have the same fun creating levels as kids might have... keeping in mind i'm 27 and would rather share levels created by older gamers rather than 5 year old kids...

Still we have different point of views, i really believe that LBP is a type of game which can appeal to everyone...

[QUOTE="lesner87"]Ohh crap...Feel sorry for the 360 owners.MS really knows how to hurt people.Imagine a next gen console with no HDD and DVD rom :Dwiiwillwiiwill

budy, pc game don't have blu-ray either, but graphically way better than any next gen console games.

Buddy i own a PC 1500$ rig.And i still would love to switch on my PS3 and play it any day over a pc.Even though the games are expensive but i still prefer PS3.Because it has everything a gamer needs.My rig couldnt even handle Crysis on High and my 500$ ps3 runs everything smooth and fine.

[QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"]

[QUOTE="lesner87"]Ohh crap...Feel sorry for the 360 owners.MS really knows how to hurt people.Imagine a next gen console with no HDD and DVD rom :Dlesner87

budy, pc game don't have blu-ray either, but graphically way better than any next gen console games.

Buddy i own a PC 1500$ rig.And i still would love to switch on my PS3 and play it any day over a pc.Even though the games are expensive but i still prefer PS3.Because it has everything a gamer needs.My rig couldnt even handle Crysis on High and my 500$ ps3 runs everything smooth and fine.

Smooth and fine at low resolutions....what a gaming powerhouse the PS3 truely is.

Basically there only problem is the hard drive? um kay...then slap a hardrive required sticker on it? other then that LBP could easily be done on teh 360, but i dont want the game its a glorified level editor with no real good content because the developer cant make good content only engines so they put out an engine and make the users do all the work.WilliamRLBaker

Got fanboy?

[QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"]

[QUOTE="lesner87"]Ohh crap...Feel sorry for the 360 owners.MS really knows how to hurt people.Imagine a next gen console with no HDD and DVD rom :DStonin

budy, pc game don't have blu-ray either, but graphically way better than any next gen console games.

Buddy i own a PC 1500$ rig.And i still would love to switch on my PS3 and play it any day over a pc.Even though the games are expensive but i still prefer PS3.Because it has everything a gamer needs.My rig couldnt even handle Crysis on High and my 500$ ps3 runs everything smooth and fine.

Smooth and fine at low resolutions....what a gaming powerhouse the PS3 truely is.

on low resolutions ?? It actullay doesnt run games on like native 1080s...etc..etc..But can ACTUALLY DISPLAY them and thats good enough for me.I have had a side by side comparison of Condenmed 1 on Pc maxed out and Condemned 2 on PS3 maxed out.

Pc = 1440X900 reso wide.On my sync master 931bw.and PS3 on 720p reso.Still there wasnt much of a difference.Only sharpness and that also wasnt noticeable from 5-10 feet away.But once again the rigs for 1500$$ and PS3 is for 500$.

on low resolutions ?? It actullay doesnt run games on like native 1080s...etc..etc..But can ACTUALLY DISPLAY them and thats good enough for me.I have had a side by side comparison of Condenmed 1 on Pc maxed out and Condemned 2 on PS3 maxed out.

Pc = 1440X900 reso wide.On my sync master 931bw.and PS3 on 720p reso.Still there wasnt much of a difference.Only sharpness and that also wasnt noticeable from 5-10 feet away.But once again the rigs for 1500$$ and PS3 is for 500$.

lesner87

You really have no idea what you are talking about. Anyhow, why compare Condemed 1 with its sequal? The game doesn't look good on any sytem and if you think it does then you've bought all of the wrong games for your imaginary PC.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Basically there only problem is the hard drive? um kay...then slap a hardrive required sticker on it? other then that LBP could easily be done on teh 360, but i dont want the game its a glorified level editor with no real good content because the developer cant make good content only engines so they put out an engine and make the users do all the work.blitzcloud

Got fanboy?

you don't agree so he's wrong? mmkay

Yes, we all know the best games can't be done on the 360.metalgear-solid

Ohhh, sarcasm noted

You really have no idea what you are talking about. Anyhow, why compare Condemed 1 with its sequal? The game doesn't look good on any sytem and if you think it does then you've bought all of the wrong games for your imaginary PC.

Stonin

Dude thats not my point obviously pcs will always surpass consoles in graphics but with a good price tag ! And i dont have any other game to compare.

user content....thats all you need to know. xbox360 obviously doesnt allow this.

where as the ps3 does.

simple. that is the main reason why it is not possible on xbox360.

nothing to do with graphics or anything

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="ps3weee"]

Becouse of the harddrive ,,, Not becouse of the rest of the hardware where the power is at.

anyway why care aboute LBP , its a game that should be made for the wii so it could reach the audience it realy targets , and thats kids.

You cant deny that a game where you play as cute dolls and create cute levels is not a game thats meant to appeal to children ...

ps3weee

sure because 5 - 7 year old kids will spend time creating levels and sharing them right, thats why you think LBP is targeted towards kids ???

LBP is a game which can appeal to young & older gamers... Everyone gets interested when games are fun...

, I just cant see an adult spending 3 hours playing with cute dolls and creating cute levels , well thats just mine opinion ...

you don't agree so he's wrong? mmkay

MunkeySpunk92

Mmkay.

We do people always complain about developers, developing for the PS3 when they say it can't be done. You aren't the one developing the game, don't question them unless you know 100%. Get over yourselves. Face it some games can't be done on the weaker 360. Yes thats right I called the 360 weaker then PS3. I don't care if you bring up CPU, GPU, and cell processors, and all that other stuff. Unless you're developing a high end game for yourself instead of reading information on the internet. You'll never know until you do it. The PS3>360. You know why we say PS3=360? Because no developer ever gets the job done 100% on PS3 its always a flaw. Look at TF2, the average person would see TF2 PS3 and TF2 360 and immediately go 360>PS3. When we see high end PS3 titles made right, their is always SOMEBODY who questions that persons words. Well you guys better get used to it because developers are starting to not half-ass PS3 games. Even if LBP was on X-box 360, you guys say its for kids? Well guess what, a majority of kids will obtain a $199 360 with no hdd, so they wouldn't even be able to play LBP. Buying a hdd to play a game is stupid. This is Microsoft's problem not MM's.DeadSpaceXIII

Becasue 99% of those developers are making PS3 exclusive games and obvioulsy just blowing smoke. /argument

When a 360 exclusive dev, don't tell me cows don't come in here screaming BS.

Fact is this game can be done on 360.

[QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"]We do people always complain about developers, developing for the PS3 when they say it can't be done. You aren't the one developing the game, don't question them unless you know 100%. Get over yourselves. Face it some games can't be done on the weaker 360. Yes thats right I called the 360 weaker then PS3. I don't care if you bring up CPU, GPU, and cell processors, and all that other stuff. Unless you're developing a high end game for yourself instead of reading information on the internet. You'll never know until you do it. The PS3>360. You know why we say PS3=360? Because no developer ever gets the job done 100% on PS3 its always a flaw. Look at TF2, the average person would see TF2 PS3 and TF2 360 and immediately go 360>PS3. When we see high end PS3 titles made right, their is always SOMEBODY who questions that persons words. Well you guys better get used to it because developers are starting to not half-ass PS3 games. Even if LBP was on X-box 360, you guys say its for kids? Well guess what, a majority of kids will obtain a $199 360 with no hdd, so they wouldn't even be able to play LBP. Buying a hdd to play a game is stupid. This is Microsoft's problem not MM's.AlphaGamer469

Becasue 99% of those developers are making PS3 exclusive games and obvioulsy just blowing smoke. /argument

When a 360 exclusive dev, don't tell me cows don't come in here screaming BS.

Fact is this game can be done on 360.

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"]We do people always complain about developers, developing for the PS3 when they say it can't be done. You aren't the one developing the game, don't question them unless you know 100%. Get over yourselves. Face it some games can't be done on the weaker 360. Yes thats right I called the 360 weaker then PS3. I don't care if you bring up CPU, GPU, and cell processors, and all that other stuff. Unless you're developing a high end game for yourself instead of reading information on the internet. You'll never know until you do it. The PS3>360. You know why we say PS3=360? Because no developer ever gets the job done 100% on PS3 its always a flaw. Look at TF2, the average person would see TF2 PS3 and TF2 360 and immediately go 360>PS3. When we see high end PS3 titles made right, their is always SOMEBODY who questions that persons words. Well you guys better get used to it because developers are starting to not half-ass PS3 games. Even if LBP was on X-box 360, you guys say its for kids? Well guess what, a majority of kids will obtain a $199 360 with no hdd, so they wouldn't even be able to play LBP. Buying a hdd to play a game is stupid. This is Microsoft's problem not MM's.DeadSpaceXIII

Becasue 99% of those developers are making PS3 exclusive games and obvioulsy just blowing smoke. /argument

When a 360 exclusive dev, don't tell me cows don't come in here screaming BS.

Fact is this game can be done on 360.

Please, no one has provided a fact that shows this game can't be done on 360. It's just another dev doing a PS3 exclusive blowing smoke, which you cows treat as the gospel...

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Basically there only problem is the hard drive? um kay...then slap a hardrive required sticker on it? other then that LBP could easily be done on teh 360, but i dont want the game its a glorified level editor with no real good content because the developer cant make good content only engines so they put out an engine and make the users do all the work.blitzcloud

Got fanboy?

says the guy with a solid snake avatar and signature? sorry but i dont trust those with no originality.

user content....thats all you need to know. xbox360 obviously doesnt allow this.

where as the ps3 does.

simple. that is the main reason why it is not possible on xbox360.

nothing to do with graphics or anything

superjim42

actually wrong, there have been a few games with user made content on xbox systems, the one that wasn't UT3? required a PC and outside assets to make the user content, this requires inside content and assets and the ps3 system it would be doable and superior on the 360, but yet again lemmings dont want this hash of a engine being put off as a game.

The design decisions on the PS3 are huge, and I'm sure you realize that having a hard drive on every unit makes a difference he said. "That's another thing -if we didn't have a hard drive on every unit, we'd have to scale back the ambition of what you couldsave and do.

Scale back the ambition of what you can save...? Does that mean that game saves will be bigger than what can fit on a 512mb card? Man, I hope he's not planning on their being a big community where every download is like 512mb +. I can download at like 200kb/s and it still take me like 20 minutes to dl 170mb.

As far as scaling back the ambition of what you can do... is it safe to assume PS3 owners just lost another 5gb of space on their HDD? In addition to massive game saves that can't fit on memory cards?

Exactly what kids would like to do , create their own levels and share with their friends , kids and creativity goes together perfect, lego is just one example ... kids create their own stuff with legos and are proud of it and then they show it to their firends .... This is defenitly a kids game , a great game for kids , I just cant see an adult spending 3 hours playing with cute dolls and creating cute levels , well thats just mine opinion ...ps3weee

I think the fact that massive success of Spore Creature Creator shoots down your whole argument that adults won't play games that involve creativity and cuteness. You make it sound like adults only want to play business simulators based off of Access and Excel.

Or that adults only want buckets of blood. Teenagers =/= adults.

Off topic rant: why is that using italics triggers a "forbidden .html" error? GS's forums are easily the most illogically buggy forums i've ever been on.

Ummm, read the article. Like MGS4 it was built ground up in development terms. The advantage of the blu-ray disc. Also the HDD ALL PS3's have. It can't be done on 360 FACT. Quit your complaining, it seems like you're jealous. Its just another developer letting people know it can't be done on 360 so they can stop getting annoyed by 360 fanboys who whine because their is no LBP 360. I'm far from a cow. I'm just stating facts buddy.DeadSpaceXIII

actually you are a cow just admit it, and sorry it could be done on the 360, infact it could be done superior but lemmings dont want the game its drivel.

user content....thats all you need to know. xbox360 obviously doesnt allow this.

where as the ps3 does.

simple. that is the main reason why it is not possible on xbox360.

nothing to do with graphics or anything

superjim42

actually wrong, there have been a few games with user made content on xbox systems, the one that wasn't UT3? required a PC and outside assets to make the user content, this requires inside content and assets and the ps3 system it would be doable and superior on the 360, but yet again lemmings dont want this hash of a engine being put off as a game.

wait so you think user content done on a console with 'inside asstes' is superior to user content made on a pc and then transferred to ps3?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Forge says hi, there the same thing...Forge is just cooler cause it can actually manage more than side scrolling.CreepyBacon

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"]Ummm, read the article. Like MGS4 it was built ground up in development terms. The advantage of the blu-ray disc. Also the HDD ALL PS3's have. It can't be done on 360 FACT. Quit your complaining, it seems like you're jealous. Its just another developer letting people know it can't be done on 360 so they can stop getting annoyed by 360 fanboys who whine because their is no LBP 360. I'm far from a cow. I'm just stating facts buddy.DeadSpaceXIII

actually you are a cow just admit it, and sorry it could be done on the 360, infact it could be done superior but lemmings dont want the game its drivel.

When you lose an argument, start flaming. Typical cow. Provide a source outside the dev saying it can't be done and you might have an argument.

[QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"]Ummm, read the article. Like MGS4 it was built ground up in development terms. The advantage of the blu-ray disc. Also the HDD ALL PS3's have. It can't be done on 360 FACT. Quit your complaining, it seems like you're jealous. Its just another developer letting people know it can't be done on 360 so they can stop getting annoyed by 360 fanboys who whine because their is no LBP 360. I'm far from a cow. I'm just stating facts buddy.AlphaGamer469

actually you are a cow just admit it, and sorry it could be done on the 360, infact it could be done superior but lemmings dont want the game its drivel.

When you lose an argument, start flaming. Typical cow. Provide a source outside the dev saying it can't be done and you might have an argument.

so you want more proof other than the word of a dev who's actually programming the game and has surely much much more knowledge than any of us in here?

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"][QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"]Ummm, read the article. Like MGS4 it was built ground up in development terms. The advantage of the blu-ray disc. Also the HDD ALL PS3's have. It can't be done on 360 FACT. Quit your complaining, it seems like you're jealous. Its just another developer letting people know it can't be done on 360 so they can stop getting annoyed by 360 fanboys who whine because their is no LBP 360. I'm far from a cow. I'm just stating facts buddy.Malta_1980

actually you are a cow just admit it, and sorry it could be done on the 360, infact it could be done superior but lemmings dont want the game its drivel.

When you lose an argument, start flaming. Typical cow. Provide a source outside the dev saying it can't be done and you might have an argument.

so you want more proof other than the word of a dev who's actually programming the game and has surely much much more knowledge than any of us in here?

And never programmed a 360 game and probably has taken money from Son y to state it can't be done....

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"][QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"]Ummm, read the article. Like MGS4 it was built ground up in development terms. The advantage of the blu-ray disc. Also the HDD ALL PS3's have. It can't be done on 360 FACT. Quit your complaining, it seems like you're jealous. Its just another developer letting people know it can't be done on 360 so they can stop getting annoyed by 360 fanboys who whine because their is no LBP 360. I'm far from a cow. I'm just stating facts buddy.AlphaGamer469

actually you are a cow just admit it, and sorry it could be done on the 360, infact it could be done superior but lemmings dont want the game its drivel.

When you lose an argument, start flaming. Typical cow. Provide a source outside the dev saying it can't be done and you might have an argument.

so you want more proof other than the word of a dev who's actually programming the game and has surely much much more knowledge than any of us in here?

And never programmed a 360 game and probably has taken money from Son y to state it can't be done....

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"][QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

AlphaGamer469

so you want more proof other than the word of a dev who's actually programming the game and has surely much much more knowledge than any of us in here?

And never programmed a 360 game and probably has taken money from Son y to state it can't be done....

well forgive me but i'll take a devs word anyday over your speculations.... i know you hate PS3 but thats your choice, everyone has preferences in life...

Personally i think LBP could be done somehow on 360, might have less options or features but technically i dont see much differences between the 2 consoles, but am no dev or engineer so there might be something which i cannot see / cannot understand being just a gamer like many others in here...

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"][QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="DeadSpaceXIII"]Ummm, read the article. Like MGS4 it was built ground up in development terms. The advantage of the blu-ray disc. Also the HDD ALL PS3's have. It can't be done on 360 FACT. Quit your complaining, it seems like you're jealous. Its just another developer letting people know it can't be done on 360 so they can stop getting annoyed by 360 fanboys who whine because their is no LBP 360. I'm far from a cow. I'm just stating facts buddy.Malta_1980

actually you are a cow just admit it, and sorry it could be done on the 360, infact it could be done superior but lemmings dont want the game its drivel.

When you lose an argument, start flaming. Typical cow. Provide a source outside the dev saying it can't be done and you might have an argument.

so you want more proof other than the word of a dev who's actually programming the game and has surely much much more knowledge than any of us in here?

except they never said once programming was the problem, they said hardrive which in it self leads us to believe LBP will have insane hardrive footprint and install time and will likely not be able to fit its saves on memory sticks, and hell with psn as it is will take us hours to download a single user made lvl, but that still doesn't detract from the fact they said harddrive they said nothing about programming or blu ray which leads us to believe its just a space issue, which is easily fixed with harddrive required sticker on the box.

Surfice to say with an harddrive LBP could be done on the 360, its an exclusive game by a studio tight with sony so what are they gonna say the truth? that they could easily do it on 360 and superior but through grass roots polls they found no lemmings want the game?

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Forge says hi, there the same thing...Forge is just cooler cause it can actually manage more than side scrolling.DeadSpaceXIII

No. Conceptually, they're the same thing.

Regardless... Halo 3 has video and pic saving as well as all the custom game type options and Forge... which can be shared with the community.

Even the Arcade comes with a 500mb mem unit. Even if you grow beyond that, you can upload them to Bungie's fileshare service.

Maybe they should say that they wouldn't be able to do it on the 360 because they're not clever enough to see past the HDD.

says the guy with a solid snake avatar and signature? sorry but i dont trust those with no originality.WilliamRLBaker

Also, it's called a drawing, made by me... sooo I think it's more original than taking an animated gif you didnt make as avatar.