Lead Gameplay Designer of Mass Effect 2 and 3 leaves Bioware.

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#1 mrmusicman247
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I guess getting married is more important than Mass Effect >.>

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#2 Birdy09
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I'm going to sound harsh for this, but good. The game needs better gameplay, and quite frankly if she is the lead gameplay designed making these dumbed down decision final then oh well, bye bye.
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#3 Firebird-5
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I guess getting married is more important than Mass Effect >.>

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maybe it is to her

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#4 MFDOOM1983
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Good combat is now possible?
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#5 tenaka2
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I'm more shocked that ME2 had a designer.

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#6 tomarlyn
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I want to say something funny but knowing the mods they'd probably get their cane out. Oh well good luck to her :P
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#7 ampiva
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Maybe the games can finally be good.
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#8 SecretPolice
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Huh, good luck I guess and oh, I'd rather the RPG designers be leaving since the game-play in ME2 and I'm sure ME3 isn't the problem I have with the series at this time.

J/K but only a lil bit :P

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#9 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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She's being replaced by Preston Watamaniuk, lead designer of ME1 and 2. So everything is gonna be fine.
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#10 call_of_duty_10
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Looks like she found the right romance option at last.

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#11 lowkey254
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I'm going to sound harsh for this, but good. The game needs better gameplay, and quite frankly if she is the lead gameplay designed making these dumbed down decision final then oh well, bye bye.Birdy09
I agree.
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#12 Vesica_Prime
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Damn, I thought it was Hamburger Hepler.

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#13 Parasomniac
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She turned it into gears of war so I don't care.
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#14 illmatic87
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Looks like she went to work on mass erect.
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#15 HaloPimp978
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I liked ME2, but at times felt like GOW2. So this could be a good thing.

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#17 AAllxxjjnn
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No wonder ME2 is not-so-hardcore RPG, because a woman lead the design. Women don't generally play RPGs. Their ideas of RPG is not that of BG2, but something more on-the-surface.

Still, the biggest lead of ME franchise is Casey Hudson.

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C'mon, dude. That's a bucketful of generalization you've got there.
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#18 Firebird-5
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No wonder ME2 is not-so-hardcore RPG, because a woman lead the design. Women don't generally play RPGs. Their ideas of RPG is not that of BG2, but something more on-the-surface.

Still, the biggest lead of ME franchise is Casey Hudson.

Ravenchrome

sexism at its finest

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#19 EliteM0nk3y
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Looks like she found the right romance option at last.

call_of_duty_10

Hehe I had a good chuckle at this.

Everything she said always sounded bad, so I can't say I am going to miss her.

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No wonder ME2 is not-so-hardcore RPG, because a woman lead the design. Women don't generally play RPGs. Their idea of an RPG is not that of BG2, but something more on-the-surface.

Still, the biggest lead of ME franchise is Casey Hudson.

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I lol'd.
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No wonder ME2 is not-so-hardcore RPG, because a woman lead the design. Women don't generally play RPGs. Their idea of an RPG is not that of BG2, but something more on-the-surface.

Still, the biggest lead of ME franchise is Casey Hudson.

Ravenchrome
That's totally not generalizing.
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#22 noxboxlive
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Looks like she found the right romance option at last.

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Not hard, its always the paragon choice.

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#23 noxboxlive
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[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

No wonder ME2 is not-so-hardcore RPG, because a woman lead the design. Women don't generally play RPGs. Their idea of an RPG is not that of BG2, but something more on-the-surface.

Still, the biggest lead of ME franchise is Casey Hudson.

mrmusicman247

That's totally not generalizing.

not to mention like 45% + of RPG players are women......

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#24 dreman999
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[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

No wonder ME2 is not-so-hardcore RPG, because a woman lead the design. Women don't generally play RPGs. Their idea of an RPG is not that of BG2, but something more on-the-surface.

Still, the biggest lead of ME franchise is Casey Hudson.

skinny_man_69
I lol'd.

I know right. Did even dawn on the guy that ME1 would not exist with out Casey.
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#25 N7v1K0
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Could this be the reason behind the delay?

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#26 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Could this be the reason behind the delay?N7v1K0
Doesn't seem related. It's only one person, and seems to have been replaced rather quick.
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#28 Twin-Blade
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not to mention like 45% + of RPG players are women......

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What if we don't include Persona?

Good, a kitchen is wear she is suited best ...

JOKE !!!! MODS SPEAR ME PLEASE.:D

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Funniest typo of the day. You're screwed now.

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#29 N7v1K0
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[QUOTE="N7v1K0"]Could this be the reason behind the delay?IronBass
Doesn't seem related. It's only one person, and seems to have been replaced rather quick.

A very important person that had to be replcaed quick for things to keep rolling.:P

Well it doesn't really matter anyway, if it's delayed it's delayed lol

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#30 TheEpicGoat
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Maybe DAIII will be more than pressing X

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#31 Mau-Justice
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The first Mass Effect was better than the sequel, so good riddance.
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#32 malikmmm
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is there a correlation between Brent Knowles and (Christina Norman) mass effect 2 lead designer ? -Brent Knowles was the lead designer of dragon age origins but left bioware because he didnt liked where the DA2 was going (completely different from original game) -now it seems like the lead designer of mass effect has also quit and do you really think that marriage was the sole reason or can there be others ?
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#33 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="malikmmm"]is there a correlation between Brent Knowles and (Christina Norman) mass effect 2 lead designer ? -Brent Knowles was the lead designer of dragon age origins but left bioware because he didnt liked where the DA2 was going (completely different from original game) -now it seems like the lead designer of mass effect has also quit and do you really think that marriage was the sole reason or can there be others ?

Well don't you think she would have said up front that she didn't like where ME3 was going like Brent Knowles did?
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[QUOTE="malikmmm"]is there a correlation between Brent Knowles and (Christina Norman) mass effect 2 lead designer ? -Brent Knowles was the lead designer of dragon age origins but left bioware because he didnt liked where the DA2 was going (completely different from original game) -now it seems like the lead designer of mass effect has also quit and do you really think that marriage was the sole reason or can there be others ?mrmusicman247
Well don't you think she would have said up front that she didn't like where ME3 was going like Brent Knowles did?

well if my memory serves me well Brent Knowles actually waited for a couple of months(or after DA2 was released) before expressing his opinion, he didnt just expressed his opinion right off the bat after leaving bioware.

and not everyone is comfortable in expressing their views you know.

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a [QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="malikmmm"]is there a correlation between Brent Knowles and (Christina Norman) mass effect 2 lead designer ? -Brent Knowles was the lead designer of dragon age origins but left bioware because he didnt liked where the DA2 was going (completely different from original game) -now it seems like the lead designer of mass effect has also quit and do you really think that marriage was the sole reason or can there be others ?malikmmm
Well don't you think she would have said up front that she didn't like where ME3 was going like Brent Knowles did?

well if my memory serves me well Brent Knowles actually waited for a couple of months(or after DA2 was released) before expressing his opinion, he didnt just expressed his opinion right off the bat after leaving bioware.

It was during the final stages of pre production or early production as far as I can tell - when the games vision and direction is pretty much outlined and prototypes are being built and experimented with.

He posted about leaving when the game was well into production - late last year I think.

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]I'm going to sound harsh for this, but good. The game needs better gameplay, and quite frankly if she is the lead gameplay designed making these dumbed down decision final then oh well, bye bye.lowkey254
I agree.

What if she left becuase she was frustrated with management not letting her improve the gameplay?

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#37 dreman999
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[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]

not to mention like 45% + of RPG players are women......

Twin-Blade

What if we don't include Persona?

Good, a kitchen is wear she is suited best ...

JOKE !!!! MODS SPEAR ME PLEASE.:D

rasengan2552

Funniest typo of the day. You're screwed now.

Then it would be 44%...Your forgetting WOW. And a lot of woman play ME and DA.
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#38 dreman999
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[QUOTE="lowkey254"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]I'm going to sound harsh for this, but good. The game needs better gameplay, and quite frankly if she is the lead gameplay designed making these dumbed down decision final then oh well, bye bye.Pug-Nasty

I agree.

What if she left becuase she was frustrated with management not letting her improve the gameplay?

......She was the one who made the push to change ME1 combat to ME2 combat. Everything you whine about which makes ME2 combat better is because of her.
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#39 dreman999
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The first Mass Effect was better than the sequel, so good riddance.Mau-Justice
1. People complain about the story being worse than ME1 which made ME1 better. She has nothing to do with it. 2. ME2 combat is miles better than ME1's.
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#40 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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Doesn't matter. BioWare will be still as good as ever. :)

I'm more shocked that ME2 had a designer.

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You've got to be working with CD Projekt to be making comments as outrageous as this one.
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#42 aGOODdude
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Sad news... ME2 are one of the best games this gen and it sounds like this gal had a major part in creating it. May she go on to do great things.

(would make sammich joke, but it seems I'm late to the party).

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#43 SuperFlakeman
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I'm going to sound harsh for this, but good. The game needs better gameplay, and quite frankly if she is the lead gameplay designed making these dumbed down decision final then oh well, bye bye.Birdy09

I'm sure it's the ppl in suits (publishers) who decide such major things about their games.

That's why most of the innovation and free thinking can be found in indie games.

Where's Mirror's Edge 2? Nah we get a CoD ripoff instead. etc.

If you want to blame someone it's the publishers, I'm sure developers are just as passionate for gaming as we are, they don't really want to sit and make map packs all day long, but they have to bring food to the table too.

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#44 Maroxad
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Good luck to her, and I wish her luck in her future. Hopefully her departure wont negatively influense ME3.

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#45 Ravenchrome
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Some people here take my joke seriously.

Humor aside, the direction of a particular game is often decided by the executive, not a single designer.

DA2's direction is clearly one such example.

It is practiced not only within Bioware, but the industry entire.

This is one of the reasons we draw the line between the major gaming industry and the independent gaming industry.

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#46 Firebird-5
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Some people here take my joke seriously.

Humor aside, the direction of a particular game is often decided by the executive, not a single designer.

DA2's direction is clearly one such example.

It is practiced not only within Bioware, but the industry entire.

This is one of the reasons we draw the line between the major gaming industry and the independent gaming industry.

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if it was a joke, it was in extremely poor taste

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#47 NaveedLife
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Sort of off-topic, but not too much :P...

Didn't they take out the view bobbing affect from the first one in both 2 and the previews of 3? I loved that immediately in ME1, it really added to the style when you were aiming down your sights.

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#48 MFDOOM1983
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May she produce many offspring and sandwiches for her husband.
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May she produce many offspring and sandwiches for her husband.MFDOOM1983
Hahaha!
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#50 SkyWard20
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]Doesn't matter. BioWare will be still as good as ever. :)

I'm more shocked that ME2 had a designer.

tenaka2
You've got to be working with CD Projekt to be making comments as outrageous as this one.

Are you suggesting CDProjekt can afford an advertising team big enough to waste time on forums? :D