Leaked INGAME XMB 2.0 INFO.

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#51 Timstuff
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Nice. One less feature for Lems to lord over cows. But I don't think we'll see them getting Blu-Ray or HDD standard with a firmware update. ;)
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#52 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="gamenux"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"]Ok, and Lemmings have had this since what? Launch?gamenux

Demos has always been free on PC. YOu are a fool to think demos are worth playing for. Demos are just a marketing tool used by developers. They pass it out for free. And keep telling yourself that demos are worth paying for.... that is 1 less game per year. Over 5 yrs, that cost really adds up. So just keep telling yourself that demos are worth paying for it. lol

you are misinformed too. YOU CAN GET DEMOS WITH A XBOX LIVE SILVER ACCOUNT!

My bad, I guess I haven't been using LIVE since I cancelled it on myXBOX. My apologies. No-one should pay for online when much of the world's gamers get it for free. Besides, we have to pay for an internet connection already.

demos were always free as it should be.:|

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#53 _en1gma_
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Woohoo!

Soooo ... what? ... two years ago? ...

So exciting ZOMG!

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#54 lordxymor
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they did here you go.

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=92131

The next firmware renewal decreases the memory use by the XMB during games. Presently, 64MB of XDR RAM, 32MB of GDDR3 VRAM, and the entire 7th SPU are always reserved for the XMB even during games. Firmware 2.0 will reduce the memory usage to 32MB of XDR and NO GDDR3. XMB will still run on the 7th SPU but the 7th SPU wont be reserved, other things can be run on the SPU besides the XMB.

G10mgs4

Wow. Are they gonna make 2.0 obrigatory making developers include the update in the discs?

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#55 tumle
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be honest with your self here mate...they wouldnt have to cut things from the in-game access of the xmb if the memory was capable of having all the things there..they just would'nt need to if the memory was sufficent...

remember dont quote this post again..5 qoutes rule :)...

daveg1

i know for a fact that the reserved footprint in the memory will be reduced over time like they did with psp, its better to reserve to much than to little. and from a other poster on the first page it seams that they are already coming down to what the 360 had reserved, but we don't know if its true because his linkis from a forum, but I'm crossing my fingers :)

ttp://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=92131

The next firmware renewal decreases the memory use by the XMB during games. Presently, 64MB of XDR RAM, 32MB of GDDR3 VRAM, and the entire 7th SPU are always reserved for the XMB even during games. Firmware 2.0 will reduce the memory usage to 32MB of XDR and NO GDDR3. XMB will still run on the 7th SPU but the 7th SPU wont be reserved, other things can be run on the SPU besides the XMB.

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#56 tumle
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

they did here you go.

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=92131

The next firmware renewal decreases the memory use by the XMB during games. Presently, 64MB of XDR RAM, 32MB of GDDR3 VRAM, and the entire 7th SPU are always reserved for the XMB even during games. Firmware 2.0 will reduce the memory usage to 32MB of XDR and NO GDDR3. XMB will still run on the 7th SPU but the 7th SPU wont be reserved, other things can be run on the SPU besides the XMB.

lordxymor

Wow. Are they gonna make 2.0 obrigatory making developers include the update in the discs?

good question? but why not they do it with psp with major updates.

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#57 Blue-Sky
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Online text messaging, VOICE messaging, VIDEO messaging, DEMOS, Marketplace downloadable content,EVERY single feature of XBL is available for free.

except one: online multiplayer.

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#58 p2rus
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of course demos should be free...but shouldnt online be free too? i mean, pc gamers dont pay for online. why should xbox gamers. just kind of sucks that ms charges for what was free before.
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#59 TheDarkDisciple
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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]if you can't beat them,then just join them ! -Sonyresistancemang

or overpower your weak xbox live with home

wow i'm so jealous that cows will be able to waste their time other than playing a real video game; or maybe it's cause they won't have any :?... But if you seriously don't think MS is working on anything then you are a fool. I bet they are planning a ripoff of Home right now.

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of course demos should be free...but shouldnt online be free too? i mean, pc gamers dont pay for online. why should xbox gamers. just kind of sucks that ms charges for what was free before.p2rus

It's for the service and infrastructure. Keeps it reliable and allows easy and standardized XBL support for all devs.

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#61 Timstuff
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Online text messaging, VOICE messaging, VIDEO messaging, DEMOS, Marketplace downloadable content,EVERY single feature of XBL is available for free.

except one: online multiplayer.

Blue-Sky

AKA, the one that counts. And ontop of that, you don't even get dedicated servers. :(

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#62 SiiSsy
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[QUOTE="gamenux"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"]Ok, and Lemmings have had this since what? Launch?-Sora

Demos has always been free on PC. YOu are a fool to think demos are worth playing for. Demos are just a marketing tool used by developers. They pass it out for free. And keep telling yourself that demos are worth paying for.... that is 1 less game per year. Over 5 yrs, that cost really adds up. So just keep telling yourself that demos are worth paying for it. lol

you are misinformed too. YOU CAN GET DEMOS WITH A XBOX LIVE SILVER ACCOUNT!

LOL! on the weekends!!
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#63 TheDarkDisciple
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[QUOTE="p2rus"]of course demos should be free...but shouldnt online be free too? i mean, pc gamers dont pay for online. why should xbox gamers. just kind of sucks that ms charges for what was free before._en1gma_

It's for the service and infrastructure. Keeps it reliable and allows easy and standardized XBL support for all devs.

and just incase cows forgot about this:

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/ps3/forums/thread/289789/

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[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="gamenux"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"]Ok, and Lemmings have had this since what? Launch?SiiSsy

Demos has always been free on PC. YOu are a fool to think demos are worth playing for. Demos are just a marketing tool used by developers. They pass it out for free. And keep telling yourself that demos are worth paying for.... that is 1 less game per year. Over 5 yrs, that cost really adds up. So just keep telling yourself that demos are worth paying for it. lol

you are misinformed too. YOU CAN GET DEMOS WITH A XBOX LIVE SILVER ACCOUNT!

LOL! on the weekends!!

Stop digging a hole for yourself. More like everyday of the week.

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#65 TheDarkDisciple
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[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="gamenux"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"]Ok, and Lemmings have had this since what? Launch?SiiSsy

Demos has always been free on PC. YOu are a fool to think demos are worth playing for. Demos are just a marketing tool used by developers. They pass it out for free. And keep telling yourself that demos are worth paying for.... that is 1 less game per year. Over 5 yrs, that cost really adds up. So just keep telling yourself that demos are worth paying for it. lol

you are misinformed too. YOU CAN GET DEMOS WITH A XBOX LIVE SILVER ACCOUNT!

LOL! on the weekends!!

huh? I just got a Stranglehold demo friday i think, then Bioshock sunday, and Beautifal Katamari monday.

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#66 Shusty_lives
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What is there to really argue about an update? You going to have kids on here who don't even have a PS3 complaining about what the update is missing, or trolls who want to compare XBL live features to PSN. Even though this topic is about 2.0 update.
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#67 TheDarkDisciple
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Online text messaging, VOICE messaging, VIDEO messaging, DEMOS, Marketplace downloadable content,EVERY single feature of XBL is available for free.

except one: online multiplayer.

Timstuff

AKA, the one that counts. And ontop of that, you don't even get dedicated servers. :(

atleast i don't have to worry about the server shutting down when I want to play a game online.

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#68 xBALOx
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if you can't beat them,then just join them ! -Sony-Ninja_Dog-

lol , you say it like m$ invented that. Windows is cool but not that good.

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[QUOTE="-Sora"]Ok, and Lemmings have had this since what? Launch?G10mgs4

and we get it for free, you pay $50. me my own is free.

Hell ya, I love free online!

Hey what's your gamer name on the ps3? Maybe i'll fight you a few rounds in Virtua Fighter 5 online later.....

..oh wait...

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#70 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]if you can't beat them,then just join them ! -SonyxBALOx

lol , you say it like m$ invented that. Windows is cool but not that good.

What is better? Linux? OSX? :lol:

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#71 bezaire2005
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[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="gamenux"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"]Ok, and Lemmings have had this since what? Launch?SiiSsy

Demos has always been free on PC. YOu are a fool to think demos are worth playing for. Demos are just a marketing tool used by developers. They pass it out for free. And keep telling yourself that demos are worth paying for.... that is 1 less game per year. Over 5 yrs, that cost really adds up. So just keep telling yourself that demos are worth paying for it. lol

you are misinformed too. YOU CAN GET DEMOS WITH A XBOX LIVE SILVER ACCOUNT!

LOL! on the weekends!!

LOL! umm ya...you can download demo's any day of the week.
There should a required amount of knowledge you have to have about something before you can post about it or critisize it. Because what you are doing just isn't cutting it.

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#72 TheDarkDisciple
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"]Ok, and Lemmings have had this since what? Launch?bezaire2005

and we get it for free, you pay $50. me my own is free.

Hell ya, I love free online!

Hey what's your gamer name on the ps3? Maybe i'll fight you a few rounds in Virtua Fighter 5 online later.....

..oh wait...

rofllll :D i thought you were serious.