Left 4 Dead 360 is one ugly beast...

L4D is ugly because it's running on an old ass engine. That's why I play games like Gears 2 to get my graphics and gameplay fix.

Of course continue enjoying your 8.5 game. ;) The reason why L4D was ported over to the 360 is because Valve knows where the money is nowadays, they're not like old stuck in their way hermits who are too entrenched in their beliefs that the PC is the future of all gaming. As usual though, Valve like many cheap cash in on consoles PC developers, opted for a half decent port over job, instead of really pushing the console to its powerful limits.

That's how confident I am of my compelling arguement.darkhadow

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]What? I'm pretty sure 360 is capable of maxing it out at 720p. TREAL_Since

L4D is ugly because it's running on an old ass engine. That's why I play games like Gears 2 to get my graphics and gameplay fix.

Of course continue enjoying your 8.5 game. ;) The reason why L4D was ported over to the 360 is because Valve knows where the money is nowadays, they're not like old stuck in their way hermits who are too entrenched in their beliefs that the PC is the future of all gaming. As usual though, Valve like many cheap cash in on consoles PC developers, opted for a half decent port over job, instead of really pushing the console to its powerful limits.

Hoobinator

L4D is ugly because it's running on an old ass engine. That's why I play games like Gears 2 to get my graphics and gameplay fix.

Of course continue enjoying your 8.5 game. ;) The reason why L4D was ported over to the 360 is because Valve knows where the money is nowadays, they're not like old stuck in their way hermits who are too entrenched in their beliefs that the PC is the future of all gaming. As usual though, Valve like many cheap cash in on consoles PC developers, opted for a half decent port over job, instead of really pushing the console to its powerful limits.

Hoobinator

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

L4D is ugly because it's running on an old ass engine. That's why I play games like Gears 2 to get my graphics and gameplay fix.

Of course continue enjoying your 8.5 game. ;) The reason why L4D was ported over to the 360 is because Valve knows where the money is nowadays, they're not like old stuck in their way hermits who are too entrenched in their beliefs that the PC is the future of all gaming. As usual though, Valve like many cheap cash in on consoles PC developers, opted for a half decent port over job, instead of really pushing the console to its powerful limits.

MTBare

Which is why Orange Box sold more on PC than 360?angelkimne

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]What? I'm pretty sure 360 is capable of maxing it out at 720p. angelkimne

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]360 users are having tons of fun with their inferior version due to the social part of it. I don't think they care much about what the PC version carries because they're having enough fun as it is. Why don't you let them have their fun?darkhadow

How do you know? Maybe we are "informed" and it's a "preference":shock:

[QUOTE="Mlauthemighty"]I could run the demo on my 1.5 ghz core2 laptop with an 8600gs card.darkhadow

See? Despite that guy's horrible specs due to his crappy laptop, he can run the game just fine.

What now, Xbots? 

Playing games on PC's are nice. The only problem is most of the folks I know would rather game on a console than on a PC. It's just a lot more convenient.DaGamingGod

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Playing games on PC's are nice. The only problem is most of the folks I know would rather game on a console than on a PC. It's just a lot more convenient.Pinkyimp

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Playing games on PC's are nice. The only problem is most of the folks I know would rather game on a console than on a PC. It's just a lot more convenient.DragonfireXZ95

And I bet most people would go to the store and buy it for PC.  See?  I can do it too if I don't have any data to support the idea.

All I know is that when the game is in my mailbox on the day of release, I just pop the disc in the tray and play within 30 secons. And if I get tired of it, I can eBay it.

Besides, as I mentioned earlier, the people I play with all own 360s.  I know it'll work on their consoles.  I can't say the same for their PCs.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Another feral hermit thread? I love these!!darkhadow

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] And thats fine, Some people find PC gaming more convenient, its a matter of choice, Console gamers have there reasons and PC gamers have there's. Also if i may add, Convenient =/= Better...just so you know.VoodooHak

And I bet most people would go to the store and buy it for PC.  See?  I can do it too if I don't have any data to support the idea.

All I know is that when the game is in my mailbox on the day of release, I just pop the disc in the tray and play within 30 secons. And if I get tired of it, I can eBay it.

Besides, as I mentioned earlier, the people I play with all own 360s.  I know it'll work on their consoles.  I can't say the same for their PCs.

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Playing games on PC's are nice. The only problem is most of the folks I know would rather game on a console than on a PC. It's just a lot more convenient.DragonfireXZ95

I don't think anyone actually cares about making a trip to the store.I find it more satisfying to have a material disc and case myself. The simple fact is that PC gaming is too expensive, introverted, uncomfortable or whatever for some people. I savour being able to play games in a lounge set up... it just feels fresher and more exciting that way.

Sorry, but your point is only a winner for fat nerds. Your arguments only seem good to those who agree with you.

huh?

it looks just fine on 360. not like you have time to check out the grahics when zombies are grabbing at you anyway....

[QUOTE="darkhadow"]

As you can all guess, I purchased Left 4 Dead recently. Great game. That's why it's a shame that Valve is porting it o the HEXBOX 360! 

Although the graphics look similar, it is uglier because Steam uis not there to support it and the fact that NO MODS BECAUSE MS IS TRYING TO KILL PC GAMING SINCE THEY ALREADY HAVE A MORBIDLY MALICIOUS MONOPOLY ON CONSOLES!

 It's great that some Consolities too stupid to buy a PC can play it, but it's a shame Valve had to go that far just to please the idiotic masses. Do yourself a favor, Lemmings: buy Left 4 Dead PC. Support Valve, support Steam, support open systems.

 Don't whine about upgrades, I'm sure 98 percent of people here can run Left 4 Dead no problem.

 

Me? I murder it with my specs. 

IshmaelSonata

prove you wrong? thats so easy. Just go delete that account already b4 continuing to read my post.

You said that MS is trying to kill PC gaming? ROFL are you serious? You're talking about MS, whose huge investment is in the PC industry and on recent gotten onto the console market. You do understand that the huge advantage of windows over mac when it comes to gaming right? Theres a reason that every hardcore gamer gets a PC instead of a mac.. so now you're saying that MS is trying to kill PC gaming? 

The chances are, Valve wanted to make more money, saw lower development costs in making a 360 version and released it to lemmings. 

You lost sorry, now go back and check if that account was actually deleted.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] And thats fine, Some people find PC gaming more convenient, its a matter of choice, Console gamers have there reasons and PC gamers have there's. Also if i may add, Convenient =/= Better...just so you know.supreme-smiter

I don't think anyone actually cares about making a trip to the store.I find it more satisfying to have a material disc and case myself. The simple fact is that PC gaming is too expensive, introverted, uncomfortable or whatever for some people. I savour being able to play games in a lounge set up... it just feels fresher and more exciting that way.

Sorry, but your point is only a winner for fat nerds. Your arguments only seem good to those who agree with you.

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Playing games on PC's are nice. The only problem is most of the folks I know would rather game on a console than on a PC. It's just a lot more convenient.DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] You know what's convenient? Buying L4D on Steam and not even leaving the house... Along with automatic updates, a 45 dollar price tag on the pre-order and automatic map downloading on custom servers... How is that not convenient? So what's more convenient? Going to the store, and buying the game on your 360? Or buying it on Steam without even leaving the comfort of your own house? Honestly, it would take more time to go to the store and buy it then to set all the graphical options up on your PC. Having it delivered to your house makes this point moot, but I bet most people go to the store to buy it.DragonfireXZ95

And I bet most people would go to the store and buy it for PC.  See?  I can do it too if I don't have any data to support the idea.

All I know is that when the game is in my mailbox on the day of release, I just pop the disc in the tray and play within 30 secons. And if I get tired of it, I can eBay it.

Besides, as I mentioned earlier, the people I play with all own 360s.  I know it'll work on their consoles.  I can't say the same for their PCs.

no it will still sell better on 360naruto7777

Just like Orange Box right?

As you can all guess, I purchased Left 4 Dead recently. Great game. That's why it's a shame that Valve is porting it o the HEXBOX 360! 

Although the graphics look similar, it is uglier because Steam uis not there to support it and the fact that NO MODS BECAUSE MS IS TRYING TO KILL PC GAMING SINCE THEY ALREADY HAVE A MORBIDLY MALICIOUS MONOPOLY ON CONSOLES!

 It's great that some Consolities too stupid to buy a PC can play it, but it's a shame Valve had to go that far just to please the idiotic masses. Do yourself a favor, Lemmings: buy Left 4 Dead PC. Support Valve, support Steam, support open systems.

 Don't whine about upgrades, I'm sure 98 percent of people here can run Left 4 Dead no problem.

Me? I murder it with my specs. 

prove you wrong? thats so easy. Just go delete that account already b4 continuing to read my post.

You said that MS is trying to kill PC gaming? ROFL are you serious? You're talking about MS, whose huge investment is in the PC industry and on recent gotten onto the console market. You do understand that the huge advantage of windows over mac when it comes to gaming right? Theres a reason that every hardcore gamer gets a PC instead of a mac.. so now you're saying that MS is trying to kill PC gaming? 

The chances are, Valve wanted to make more money, saw lower development costs in making a 360 version and released it to lemmings. 

You lost sorry, now go back and check if that account was actually deleted.

[QUOTE="supreme-smiter"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] You know what's convenient? Buying L4D on Steam and not even leaving the house... Along with automatic updates, a 45 dollar price tag on the pre-order and automatic map downloading on custom servers... How is that not convenient? So what's more convenient? Going to the store, and buying the game on your 360? Or buying it on Steam without even leaving the comfort of your own house? Honestly, it would take more time to go to the store and buy it then to set all the graphical options up on your PC. Having it delivered to your house makes this point moot, but I bet most people go to the store to buy it.Pinkyimp

I don't think anyone actually cares about making a trip to the store.I find it more satisfying to have a material disc and case myself. The simple fact is that PC gaming is too expensive, introverted, uncomfortable or whatever for some people. I savour being able to play games in a lounge set up... it just feels fresher and more exciting that way.

Sorry, but your point is only a winner for fat nerds. Your arguments only seem good to those who agree with you.

Again, different preferences. Evidentally we play games differently, as I find that Iam less immersed in my PC gaming and often enjoy simple, uncomplicated gaming anyway  - it's a matter of escapism for me. Maybe it's because my PC isn't up to scratch, but most gamers - who probably aren't represented much on this forum - are more likely to have a good lounge set-up than a good PC set-up, because let's face it, most people don't spend that much money on their computers.

Maybe it's a thing of hardcore vs casual gamers, but on the whole I find console gaming to be a much more social and enjoyable experience.

Hermits who think MS wants PC gaming to die cracks me up. :lol:

They say ha MS you can't kill PC gaming PC is owning you hard MS, I hate you so much MS I could tell you all day but I have to go a play games on Vista 64.

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="supreme-smiter"]

 

 

I don't think anyone actually cares about making a trip to the store.I find it more satisfying to have a material disc and case myself. The simple fact is that PC gaming is too expensive, introverted, uncomfortable or whatever for some people. I savour being able to play games in a lounge set up... it just feels fresher and more exciting that way.

 

Sorry, but your point is only a winner for fat nerds. Your arguments only seem good to those who agree with you.

supreme-smiter

Again, different preferences. Evidentally we play games differently, as I find that Iam less immersed in my PC gaming and often enjoy simple, uncomplicated gaming anyway  - it's a matter of escapism for me. Maybe it's because my PC isn't up to scratch, but most gamers - who probably aren't represented much on this forum - are more likely to have a good lounge set-up than a good PC set-up, because let's face it, most people don't spend that much money on their computers.

Maybe it's a thing of hardcore vs casual gamers, but on the whole I find console gaming to be a much more social and enjoyable experience.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Another feral hermit thread? I love these!!darkhadow

360 users are having tons of fun with their inferior version due to the social part of it. I don't think they care much about what the PC version carries because they're having enough fun as it is. Why don't you let them have their fun?mo0ksi

I agree...I get pretty tired of pcgamers trying to get everyone to switch to pc because of some slight graphics upgrades. Really...Cant we all just play our games without being harrased?

[QUOTE="darkhadow"]

As you can all guess, I purchased Left 4 Dead recently. Great game. That's why it's a shame that Valve is porting it o the HEXBOX 360! 

Although the graphics look similar, it is uglier because Steam uis not there to support it and the fact that NO MODS BECAUSE MS IS TRYING TO KILL PC GAMING SINCE THEY ALREADY HAVE A MORBIDLY MALICIOUS MONOPOLY ON CONSOLES!

 It's great that some Consolities too stupid to buy a PC can play it, but it's a shame Valve had to go that far just to please the idiotic masses. Do yourself a favor, Lemmings: buy Left 4 Dead PC. Support Valve, support Steam, support open systems.

 Don't whine about upgrades, I'm sure 98 percent of people here can run Left 4 Dead no problem.

 

Me? I murder it with my specs. 

IshmaelSonata

prove you wrong? thats so easy. Just go delete that account already b4 continuing to read my post.

You said that MS is trying to kill PC gaming? ROFL are you serious? You're talking about MS, whose huge investment is in the PC industry and on recent gotten onto the console market. You do understand that the huge advantage of windows over mac when it comes to gaming right? Theres a reason that every hardcore gamer gets a PC instead of a mac.. so now you're saying that MS is trying to kill PC gaming? 

The chances are, Valve wanted to make more money, saw lower development costs in making a 360 version and released it to lemmings. 

You lost sorry, now go back and check if that account was actually deleted.

[QUOTE="IshmaelSonata"][QUOTE="darkhadow"]

As you can all guess, I purchased Left 4 Dead recently. Great game. That's why it's a shame that Valve is porting it o the HEXBOX 360! 

Although the graphics look similar, it is uglier because Steam uis not there to support it and the fact that NO MODS BECAUSE MS IS TRYING TO KILL PC GAMING SINCE THEY ALREADY HAVE A MORBIDLY MALICIOUS MONOPOLY ON CONSOLES!

 It's great that some Consolities too stupid to buy a PC can play it, but it's a shame Valve had to go that far just to please the idiotic masses. Do yourself a favor, Lemmings: buy Left 4 Dead PC. Support Valve, support Steam, support open systems.

 Don't whine about upgrades, I'm sure 98 percent of people here can run Left 4 Dead no problem.

 

Me? I murder it with my specs. 

world69star69

prove you wrong? thats so easy. Just go delete that account already b4 continuing to read my post.

You said that MS is trying to kill PC gaming? ROFL are you serious? You're talking about MS, whose huge investment is in the PC industry and on recent gotten onto the console market. You do understand that the huge advantage of windows over mac when it comes to gaming right? Theres a reason that every hardcore gamer gets a PC instead of a mac.. so now you're saying that MS is trying to kill PC gaming? 

The chances are, Valve wanted to make more money, saw lower development costs in making a 360 version and released it to lemmings. 

You lost sorry, now go back and check if that account was actually deleted.

Fact is, they [Valve] need the console market to attain the sales levels that PC exclusivity alone simply cannot achieve.

Fact is, they Valve need the console market to attain the sales levels that PC exclusivity alone simply cannot achieve.

67gt500

And seeing as how the 360 is easy to port games to, it makes perfect sense seeing as how development costs are minimal.

[QUOTE="67gt500"]

Fact is, they Valve need the console market to attain the sales levels that PC exclusivity alone simply cannot achieve.

xsubtownerx

And seeing as how the 360 is easy to port games to, it makes perfect sense seeing as how development costs are minimal.

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]360 users are having tons of fun with their inferior version due to the social part of it. I don't think they care much about what the PC version carries because they're having enough fun as it is. Why don't you let them have their fun?FunkyHeadHunter

I agree...I get pretty tired of pcgamers trying to get everyone to switch to pc because of some slight graphics upgrades. Really...Cant we all just play our games without being harrased?

This is system wars. Of course you can't.

Pretty tired of only PC gamers? I have found numerous multiplat threads where people think that game (a) looks better on console (x) than console (y). Where there actually is a slight graphical difference. Very slight. GTA 4, Mirror's edge, WaW, Fallout 3, etc. Truth is, console fanboys are just as much graphics whore as PC gamers, if not more sometimes. 

And now that there is this large gap between the PC version and the 360 version, you flame pc gamers for stating this. That's pretty unfair. 

And slight is an understatement. With more enemies on screen, mods, more details in textures, higher support from Valve, and user made maps, PC version is better.

But you're right. Gameplay wise, they're identical. This is no way that 360 owners can't enjoy the game. I mean it is the same game developed by Valve.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Another feral hermit thread? I love these!!darkhadow

uh dude your on video game site forum you dont really "win".and Valve is making more money then theyve ever made before by "Appealing to the idiotic masses".buying either version of the game will support them.And more people are buying the 360 version

Fact is, they Valve need the console market to attain the sales levels that PC exclusivity alone simply cannot achieve.

And seeing as how the 360 is easy to port games to, it makes perfect sense seeing as how development costs are minimal.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

 

And seeing as how the 360 is easy to port games to, it makes perfect sense seeing as how development costs are minimal.

xsubtownerx