Left 4 Dead PC vs Xbox

I've played them both extensively so I can rate them without being too bias!

Xbox:

Pros

- Higher percentage of people have mics

- Everyone gets the same performance (better for competition)

- Directional movement is better with control stick(edit: this means it's better than 'WASD," I'm not talking about camera control)

Cons

- Controller isn't as responsive as mouse

- Limited to 30 FPS (frames per second)

- No mods or custom maps

- Less frequent updating

- Priced higher

PC

Pros

- Everyone can communicate via keyboard

- Can get better performance if hardware is better

- sv_cheats, mods, and custom maps

- More responsive controls

Cons

- Less people have microphones

- Not everyone can run the game well enough

Verdict: PC>Xbox

This is my opinion. Even though I think the PC version is better, the 360 version is more enough to get the full experience of L4D (without mods or custom maps).

What do you think about the two versions?

I've played them both extensively so I can rate them without being too bias!

Xbox:

Pros

- Higher percentage of people have mics

- Everyone gets the same performance (better for competition)

- Directional movement is better with control stick

Cons

- Controller isn't as responsive as mouse

- Limited to 30 FPS (frames per second)

- No mods or custom maps

- Less frequent updating

- Priced higher

PC

Pros

- Everyone can communicate via keyboard

- Can get better performance if hardware is better

- sv_cheats, mods, and custom maps

- More responsive controls

Cons

- Less people have microphones

- Not everyone can run the game well enough

Verdict: PC>Xbox

This is my opinion. Even though I think the PC version is better, the 360 version is more enough to get the full experience of L4D (without mods or custom maps).

What do you think about the two versions?

brandontwb

um more people on the pc have mics than xbox. pc gaming has had voice chat for over a decade now. second ,mouse and keyboard are way better in every way shape or form for FPSs. controllers have no advantage. and for this game the hardware thing is hardly an issue. even onboard mobo gpus can run it

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

I've played them both extensively so I can rate them without being too bias!

Xbox:

Pros

- Higher percentage of people have mics

- Everyone gets the same performance (better for competition)

- Directional movement is better with control stick

Cons

- Controller isn't as responsive as mouse

- Limited to 30 FPS (frames per second)

- No mods or custom maps

- Less frequent updating

- Priced higher

PC

Pros

- Everyone can communicate via keyboard

- Can get better performance if hardware is better

- sv_cheats, mods, and custom maps

- More responsive controls

Cons

- Less people have microphones

- Not everyone can run the game well enough

Verdict: PC>Xbox

This is my opinion. Even though I think the PC version is better, the 360 version is more enough to get the full experience of L4D (without mods or custom maps).

What do you think about the two versions?

washd123

um more people on the pc have mics than xbox. pc gaming has had voice chat for over a decade now. second ,mouse and keyboard are way better in every way shape or form for FPSs. controllers have no advantage. and for this game the hardware thing is hardly an issue. even onboard mobo gpus can run it

Having played both versions and being unable to overcome the unrelenting frustration that is trying to play an FPS using a controller, the PC version trumps the 360 version by a light year.

i also think the pc version is better as well. After playing the PC version and try out the 360 version. I couldnt bare with the framerate, i felt that it was so choppy.OPuniverse

Having played both versions and being unable to overcome the unrelenting frustration that is trying to play an FPS using a controller, the PC version trumps the 360 version by a light year.

raynimrod

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

I've played them both extensively so I can rate them without being too bias!

Xbox:

Pros

- Higher percentage of people have mics

- Everyone gets the same performance (better for competition)

- Directional movement is better with control stick

Cons

- Controller isn't as responsive as mouse

- Limited to 30 FPS (frames per second)

- No mods or custom maps

- Less frequent updating

- Priced higher

PC

Pros

- Everyone can communicate via keyboard

- Can get better performance if hardware is better

- sv_cheats, mods, and custom maps

- More responsive controls

Cons

- Less people have microphones

- Not everyone can run the game well enough

Verdict: PC>Xbox

This is my opinion. Even though I think the PC version is better, the 360 version is more enough to get the full experience of L4D (without mods or custom maps).

What do you think about the two versions?

washd123

um more people on the pc have mics than xbox. pc gaming has had voice chat for over a decade now. second ,mouse and keyboard are way better in every way shape or form for FPSs. controllers have no advantage. and for this game the hardware thing is hardly an issue. even onboard mobo gpus can run it

The Big thing for me is competitive play, and there's little to none on the PC version, so 360 all the way.

The Big thing for me is competitive play, and there's little to none on the PC version, so 360 all the way.

yoshi-lnex

The Big thing for me is competitive play, and there's little to none on the PC version, so 360 all the way.

yoshi-lnex

Onboard gpus can not run this game very well (I know from trying it on like 4 different, modern, computers) And no, more people do have mics on the Xbox version. brandontwb

i didnt say very well i said they can run it. medium settings 720p. the 780g 9400 and 785g mobos can all manage over 30fps. either way the issue is running it is not an issue. anyone whos really lookingto play this game ie a gamer can easily run it and manage 30fps. so the hardware and performance thing becomes a nonissue.

and no trust me more people on the pc. like i said voice chat is new to the consoles the pc has had it for over a decade. more people have mics. every server i go on at least 3 out of the 4 have mics. plus theres many many more people on the pc version than 360 anyways.

And also, I was referring to directional movement, not viewing angle movement.. And it's better on 360.brandontwb

how is pushing an analong stick forward or backwards better than pressing a button?

The Big thing for me is competitive play, and there's little to none on the PC version, so 360 all the way.

yoshi-lnex

L4D is about coopertive play not competative i think you have the wrong game. unless youre referring to the verse mode which still more on the pc

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

The Big thing for me is competitive play, and there's little to none on the PC version, so 360 all the way.

stereointegrity

I'm in a L4D clan, and competitive play is important to me for the this and the next game. The PC version ladders on MLG were dead from the start, 360 is another matter entirely, the ladder is very active.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

The Big thing for me is competitive play, and there's little to none on the PC version, so 360 all the way.

washd123

L4D is about coopertive play not competative i think you have the wrong game. unless youre referring to the verse mode which still more on the pc

http://gamebattles.com/xbox360/left-4-dead/ladder/team/standings 360

http://gamebattles.com/pc/left-4-dead/ladder/team/standings PC

Notice how the PC ladder is dead, now why would I want to play on the PC when what I'm after is competition?

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

And also, I was referring to directional movement, not viewing angle movement.. And it's better on 360.washd123

how is pushing an analong stick forward or backwards better than pressing a button?

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

The Big thing for me is competitive play, and there's little to none on the PC version, so 360 all the way.

stereointegrity

30 Frames a second is acceptable for a number of games and genres

It however DOES NOT cut it for a fast paced shooter like Left 4 Dead sorry, if you ask me the game on 360 would have been much better if they dropped the visuals even more in order to get 60 frames a second.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Having played both versions and being unable to overcome the unrelenting frustration that is trying to play an FPS using a controller, the PC version trumps the 360 version by a light year.

brandontwb

30 Frames a second is acceptable for a number of games and genres

It however DOES NOT cut it for a fast paced shooter like Left 4 Dead sorry, if you ask me the game on 360 would have been much better if they dropped the visuals even more in order to get 60 frames a second.

zipozal

Is this a joke? PC version all the way.

Better players, more players, better controls, user made content (quite often better than the stock maps), it's just better.

[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Having played both versions and being unable to overcome the unrelenting frustration that is trying to play an FPS using a controller, the PC version trumps the 360 version by a light year.

raynimrod

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]You just haven't played with it long enough. I'm a self proclaimed expert with a gamepad for FPS's :P.brandontwb

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

The Big thing for me is competitive play, and there's little to none on the PC version, so 360 all the way.

Trmpt

I'd take 60 frames a second over the medium settings the 360 version has, left 4 Dead is to fast paced for 30 frames a second only.

I can have my cake and eat it to though on PC better graphics, 4.5 x the resolution, 16 x the Anti Aliasing + a frame rate that never dips below 60

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Trust me, I've played more than enough FPS' on consoles. From the Medal of Honour series, Halo series, Killzone series, Rainbow 6 games and so on, I've had plenty of time with them. However, the responsiveness, speed and acuracy just don't come close to that achievable on the PC with a keyboard and mouse.

I promise you that if we were to go head to head on an FPS with you and your gamepad and me and my kb/m, I'd dominate you :)

raynimrod

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]i hope this is just flame bait....pc version is better...mods are better created maps are better zipozal

I'd take 60 frames a second over the medium settings the 360 version has, left 4 Dead is to fast paced for 30 frames a second only.

I can have my cake and eat it to though on PC better graphics, 4.5 x the resolution, 16 x the Anti Aliasing + a frame rate that never dips below 60

Why did you list things that I couldn't give a damn about?

Edit:

Except for cake, cake is cool. 8)

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]i hope this is just flame bait....pc version is better...mods are better created maps are better zipozal

I'd take 60 frames a second over the medium settings the 360 version has, left 4 Dead is to fast paced for 30 frames a second only.

I can have my cake and eat it to though on PC better graphics, 4.5 x the resolution, 16 x the Anti Aliasing + a frame rate that never dips below 60

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

And also, I was referring to directional movement, not viewing angle movement.. And it's better on 360.brandontwb

how is pushing an analong stick forward or backwards better than pressing a button?

ive played them both extensively actually. and pc has 360 degrees as well what do you think the mouse is for? and yes they do. if you belive that than you havnt played the pc version enough. in this case its a multiplat thats way better in every aspect.

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

The Big thing for me is competitive play, and there's little to none on the PC version, so 360 all the way.

yoshi-lnex

L4D is about coopertive play not competative i think you have the wrong game. unless youre referring to the verse mode which still more on the pc

http://gamebattles.com/xbox360/left-4-dead/ladder/team/standings 360

http://gamebattles.com/pc/left-4-dead/ladder/team/standings PC

Notice how the PC ladder is dead, now why would I want to play on the PC when what I'm after is competition?

lol the MLG. maybe because pc gamers dont take it seriously idk?

[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="washd123"]

how is pushing an analong stick forward or backwards better than pressing a button?

washd123

ive played them both extensively actually. and pc has 360 degrees as well what do you think the mouse is for? and yes they do. if you belive that than you havnt played the pc version enough. in this case its a multiplat thats way better in every aspect.

[QUOTE="zipozal"]

[QUOTE="Trmpt"] I'll take the professionally made maps over some community made crap. There are some good ones but they're rare.brandontwb

I'd take 60 frames a second over the medium settings the 360 version has, left 4 Dead is to fast paced for 30 frames a second only.

I can have my cake and eat it to though on PC better graphics, 4.5 x the resolution, 16 x the Anti Aliasing + a frame rate that never dips below 60

Everyone here has a computer so that means if someone really wanted to do a budget PC the only things they would NEED to buy would be

Videocard

Motherboard

CPU

Ram

Power Supply

You can buy all of those for under 300 and run left 4 dead at 60 frames + 1080P easy along with most every other multiplat so ....

Case / Hard Drive / DVD Drive / Monitor or HDTV / speakers / keyboard / mouse can all be reused from current computer.

[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="zipozal"]

I'd take 60 frames a second over the medium settings the 360 version has, left 4 Dead is to fast paced for 30 frames a second only.

I can have my cake and eat it to though on PC better graphics, 4.5 x the resolution, 16 x the Anti Aliasing + a frame rate that never dips below 60

zipozal

Everyone here has a computer so that means if someone really wanted to do a budget PC the only things they would NEED to buy would be

Videocard

Motherboard

CPU

Ram

Power Supply

You can buy all of those for under 300 and run left 4 dead at 60 frames + 1080P easy along with most every other multiplat so ....

Well I like a controller for direction movement because it feels much more comfotable. It's easier to move around and platform with the 360 controller, although you don't really even need it for L4D. From my experience the 360 does have a bit more people using mics, but then again we could be playing with some friends on one version and less on the other or something like that.brandontwb

whatever you prefer the pc version is better since you can easily plug in a 360 controller if you want or use mouse and keyboard or mind control or whatver other gadget you want.

and thats possible. yet i doubt it. ive already explained why more people on the pc have mics. and its also been my experience with friends or otherwise

[QUOTE="zipozal"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]When you play with a controller 30FPS doesn't feel as bad as it does with a mouse. It's very playable on the 360 but still 60 is obviously better.Keep in mind that to get 60FPS you need to invest in a bit more money than the average console user, so that is a con.brandontwb

Everyone here has a computer so that means if someone really wanted to do a budget PC the only things they would NEED to buy would be

Videocard

Motherboard

CPU

Ram

Power Supply

You can buy all of those for under 300 and run left 4 dead at 60 frames + 1080P easy along with most every other multiplat so ....

Will do give me a minute

[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="zipozal"]

Everyone here has a computer so that means if someone really wanted to do a budget PC the only things they would NEED to buy would be

Videocard

Motherboard

CPU

Ram

Power Supply

You can buy all of those for under 300 and run left 4 dead at 60 frames + 1080P easy along with most every other multiplat so ....

zipozal

Will do give me a minute

[QUOTE="zipozal"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]Please list the components that could run it with what you mentioned. brandontwb

Will do give me a minute

[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="zipozal"]

Will do give me a minute

Trmpt

The PC version automatically wins just because of mods.

Not coming back?

About 15 bucks over the budget, but I think I did pretty good.

Hec 585 Watt Power Supply = 27 Dollars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339009

AMD Phenom Quad Core X4 9600 = 90 Dollars
http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=4589208

Asus M2A Motherboard = 60 Dollars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131391

OCZ Platinum 2 x 2 GB's = 52 Dollars

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227298

ATI 4850 512MB = 85 Dollars

http://www.techforless.com/cgi-bin/tech4less/AE/48500+T352?mv_pc=google_base&tts=20090903023700

You could save another 40 bucks if you went for 2 GB's of ram or slower ram, or a dual core instead of a quad, but it wouldn't be worth what you would be loosing.

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]OK.brandontwb

No you don't

Not coming back?

About 15 bucks over the budget, but I think I did pretty good.

Hec 585 Watt Power Supply = 27 Dollars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339009

AMD Phenom Quad Core X4 9600 = 90 Dollars
http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=4589208

Asus M2A Motherboard = 60 Dollars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131391

OCZ Platinum 2 x 2 GB's = 52 Dollars

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227298

ATI 4850 512MB = 85 Dollars

http://www.techforless.com/cgi-bin/tech4less/AE/48500+T352?mv_pc=google_base&tts=20090903023700

You could save another 40 bucks if you went for 2 GB's of ram or slower ram, or a dual core instead of a quad, but it wouldn't be worth what you would be loosing.

zipozal

That'll do pig........that'll do.

I've played them both extensively so I can rate them without being too bias!

Xbox:

Pros

- Higher percentage of people have mics

- Everyone gets the same performance (better for competition)

- Directional movement is better with control stick(edit: this means it's better than 'WASD," I'm not talking about camera control)

Cons

- Controller isn't as responsive as mouse

- Limited to 30 FPS (frames per second)

- No mods or custom maps

- Less frequent updating

- Priced higher

PC

Pros

- Everyone can communicate via keyboard

- Can get better performance if hardware is better

- sv_cheats, mods, and custom maps

- More responsive controls

Cons

- Less people have microphones

- Not everyone can run the game well enough

Verdict: PC>Xbox

This is my opinion. Even though I think the PC version is better, the 360 version is more enough to get the full experience of L4D (without mods or custom maps).

What do you think about the two versions?

brandontwb

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

The Big thing for me is competitive play, and there's little to none on the PC version, so 360 all the way.

Trmpt

there is no comparison the PC version is superior to the console version in every way, the game is far to hectic to be played on a controller.

look dude, pc is always superior