lems, cows, how does utter ownage sound?

if any game for any console in the last few generations has been a system seller, it is super smash brothers brawl. what huge do you both have to look forward to in the first quarter? unless i missed somthing both halo wars and mgs4 are STILL TBA.

and don't even try telling me i'm wrong, i have seen dozens of people say they bought, are going to buy a wii specificly for brawl.

Wii doesn't need a "System seller," it's already selling the most systems by far and has the worst library.

Maybe you can talk "ownage" when the library comes anywhere near close to competing.... unless you don't care about games that is.

For me, games are the most important thing.

Wii doesn't need a "System seller," it's already selling the most systems by far and has the worst library.

Maybe you can talk "ownage" when the library comes anywhere near close to competing.... unless you don't care about games that is.

For me, games are the most important thing.

KingOfKonging

I own a wii and I have to agree the library pretty much sucks. Res Evil 4 and SMG were the only games worth buying to me.

if any game for any console in the last few generations has been a system seller, it is super smash brothers brawl. what huge do you both have to look forward to in the first quarter? unless i missed somthing both halo wars and mgs4 are STILL TBA.

and don't even try telling me i'm wrong, i have seen dozens of people say they bought, are going to buy a wii specificly for brawl.

darkspineslayer

The Wii still has huge shortages, so when SSBB comes out, you're not going to see much in the way of a Wii sale surge. There won't be any Wii on retail shelves to be sold. The only game coming out for XBox 360 to help sell 360 is Lost Odyssey and DMC4. There's really nothing on the PS3 except DMC4.

I love how sheep always leave out Hermits.II-FBIsniper-II

hermits still have starcraft 2 to look forward too.

it sounds very, veeeeeeeery geek like, get over it alreadythejakel11225

How does Brawl sound geeky? Or more so than any other game?

I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.wmc540

I agree... While the Wii probably doesn't really need the help of SSBB, Brawl will drive the Wii to utter domination. No other 360 or PS3 game can compete with it in 2008, and this includes Metal Gear Solid 4. MGS games have never been system sellers, because the general public would rather take hiding in the shadows a few feet away from guards (Splintered Cell) over a far more superior game.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl will sell the best this year.

[QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.Erkidu

[QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.Erkidu

I am not going to spend time arguing about PS2 attachment rates because I really don't care. I know that the 360 crowd buys the killer apps and they buy a lot of them. The ps3 sales will only help that number.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.Arjdagr8

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.Arjdagr8

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.Erkidu

i did didnt i...damn your deceitful ways...lol thats true though. but still GTA is a lot more appealing to casuals than smash bros. I have a lot of friends that don't play games often that can only talk about GTA. in fact quite a few of them are buying a ps3 for it because they don't really know about the exclusive content that the xbox version has.

If the Wii is still selling out, how will anything help Nintendo's sales more?

Nintendo can't sell at a faster rate until they produce more units.

If the Wii is still selling out, how will anything help Nintendo's sales more?

Nintendo can't sell at a faster rate until they produce more units.

sonicmj1

And by produce more units you mean stop faking the shortage.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.Arjdagr8

i did didnt i...damn your deceitful ways...lol thats true though. but still GTA is a lot more appealing to casuals than smash bros. I have a lot of friends that don't play games often that can only talk about GTA. in fact quite a few of them are buying a ps3 for it because they don't really know about the exclusive content that the xbox version has.

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

If the Wii is still selling out, how will anything help Nintendo's sales more?

Nintendo can't sell at a faster rate until they produce more units.

wmc540

And by produce more units you mean stop faking the shortage.

True enough - but I could argue the same point on the other side. I know alot of GC owners that bought one only for SSBM. Only time will tell, I suppose.Erkidu

fair enough. most people i know that own a gamecube do own ssbm. you know the wierdest thing ever, i have one friend that has a gamecube but not first party nintendo titles :| i was like wth...

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

If the Wii is still selling out, how will anything help Nintendo's sales more?

Nintendo can't sell at a faster rate until they produce more units.

wmc540

And by produce more units you mean stop faking the shortage.

Yes. This is clearly evident by the monthly sales numbers.

The only artificial shortages that are going on are caused by greedy retailers who want to keep the Wii buzz high so they can bundle it with 25 shovelware games.

[QUOTE="wmc540"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

If the Wii is still selling out, how will anything help Nintendo's sales more?

Nintendo can't sell at a faster rate until they produce more units.

Erkidu

And by produce more units you mean stop faking the shortage.

It isn't like there is a single revolutionary compent to the Wii that they should have any problems mass producing. Henry Ford would be embarrassed with Nintendo's assembly lines if this "shortage" was real.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"]True enough - but I could argue the same point on the other side. I know alot of GC owners that bought one only for SSBM. Only time will tell, I suppose.Arjdagr8

fair enough. most people i know that own a gamecube do own ssbm. you know the wierdest thing ever, i have one friend that has a gamecube but not first party nintendo titles :| i was like wth...

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

If the Wii is still selling out, how will anything help Nintendo's sales more?

Nintendo can't sell at a faster rate until they produce more units.

wmc540

And by produce more units you mean stop faking the shortage.

It isn't like there is a single revolutionary compent to the Wii that they should have any problems mass producing. Henry Ford would be embarrassed with Nintendo's assembly lines if this "shortage" was real.

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="Erkidu"]True enough - but I could argue the same point on the other side. I know alot of GC owners that bought one only for SSBM. Only time will tell, I suppose.Erkidu

fair enough. most people i know that own a gamecube do own ssbm. you know the wierdest thing ever, i have one friend that has a gamecube but not first party nintendo titles :| i was like wth...

i think he mainly bought it for RE4 (at the time ps2 re4 wasn't announced i believe) guy loves RE

[QUOTE="wmc540"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

If the Wii is still selling out, how will anything help Nintendo's sales more?

Nintendo can't sell at a faster rate until they produce more units.

Erkidu

And by produce more units you mean stop faking the shortage.

It isn't like there is a single revolutionary compent to the Wii that they should have any problems mass producing. Henry Ford would be embarrassed with Nintendo's assembly lines if this "shortage" was real.

No my allusion states that Henry Ford did way more with way less... thus there is something fishy going on.

Too bad SSBM sucks but yet people play it. :?

I mean i had it for gamecube...Lamest game i could've ever purchased

Takes no skill,kiddy as hell,random,no depth...More of platforming game than a fighter to me

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

If the Wii is still selling out, how will anything help Nintendo's sales more?

Nintendo can't sell at a faster rate until they produce more units.

wmc540

And by produce more units you mean stop faking the shortage.

It isn't like there is a single revolutionary compent to the Wii that they should have any problems mass producing. Henry Ford would be embarrassed with Nintendo's assembly lines if this "shortage" was real.

No my allusion states that Henry Ford did way more with way less... thus there is something fishy going on.

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.Erkidu

You can't change the fact that 14m (x 3 for each game) > 6m. Just because Smash had a larger attach rate does not mean it was more popular. If smash was such a great system seller and much more popular then GTA, it would have sold more $99 gamecubes. But it didn't. So the Wii could sell 100m systems and Smash could still only sell 6m because thats all the fans it may have. And you can't prove I'm wrong either.

Too bad SSBM sucks but yet people play it. :?

I mean i had it for gamecube...Lamest game i could've ever purchased

Takes no skill,kiddy as hell,random,no depth...More of platforming game than a fighter to me

ProductNumber49

good for you, you have an opinion!, wana cookie?

however a mojority of peoples opinions say that smash is the best figher in awile, some mistake acsessablity for a lack of depth and is easy to learn and tough to master.

halo carried a system by itself. halo 3 i need not even say....it sold more 360's. i think halo is the idea picture of a system seller.akuma303x

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.user_nat

You can't change the fact that 14m (x 3 for each game) > 6m. Just because Smash had a larger attach rate does not mean it was more popular. If smash was such a great system seller and much more popular then GTA, it would have sold more $99 gamecubes. But it didn't. So the Wii could sell 100m systems and Smash could still only sell 6m because thats all the fans it may have. And you can't prove I'm wrong either.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.user_nat

You can't change the fact that 14m (x 3 for each game) > 6m. Just because Smash had a larger attach rate does not mean it was more popular. If smash was such a great system seller and much more popular then GTA, it would have sold more $99 gamecubes. But it didn't. So the Wii could sell 100m systems and Smash could still only sell 6m because thats all the fans it may have. And you can't prove I'm wrong either.

actually yeah, you have a point to. theres also a chance of it selling less like how mgs3 sold less than 2. anything is possible, we just have to wait and see. i mean most of us didn't know that the wii would sell so well.

[QUOTE="user_nat"]

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.Erkidu

You can't change the fact that 14m (x 3 for each game) > 6m. Just because Smash had a larger attach rate does not mean it was more popular. If smash was such a great system seller and much more popular then GTA, it would have sold more $99 gamecubes. But it didn't. So the Wii could sell 100m systems and Smash could still only sell 6m because thats all the fans it may have. And you can't prove I'm wrong either.

I never said it wouldn't sell more then SSBM or be a hit. I was simply saying that attach rates do not mean everything when comparing popularity. If a console sells 10,000 or something and a game on it sells 9,000.. does that make that game the most popular ever?

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="user_nat"]

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="wmc540"]I don't know if GTA IV is officially in the first quarter... but it will crush brawl.user_nat

You can't change the fact that 14m (x 3 for each game) > 6m. Just because Smash had a larger attach rate does not mean it was more popular. If smash was such a great system seller and much more popular then GTA, it would have sold more $99 gamecubes. But it didn't. So the Wii could sell 100m systems and Smash could still only sell 6m because thats all the fans it may have. And you can't prove I'm wrong either.

I never said it wouldn't sell more then SSBM or be a hit. I was simply saying that attach rates do not mean everything when comparing popularity. If a console sells 10,000 or something and a game on it sells 9,000.. does that make that game the most popular ever?

'Utter' ownage sounds like a pun to me.nintendofreak_2

udder ownage? lawllll

[QUOTE="user_nat"]

I never said it wouldn't sell more then SSBM or be a hit. I was simply saying that attach rates do not mean everything when comparing popularity. If a console sells 10,000 or something and a game on it sells 9,000.. does that make that game the most popular ever?

Erkidu

Sorry to keep this going.. but.. Instead of looking it in percents, why not actual numbers? So you could say 14million people bought a PS2 just for GTA, 6million people bought a GC just for SSBM and 9million people bought an xbox for Halo 2. Wouldn't a more standard comparison be fair.. like % of the entire world population?

edit: Come to think of it.. why does this even matter. Both games are amazingly popular.