Lense of Truth compares KIllzone 3 vs Crysis 2 !!!

These comparisons only make sense when comparing the same games yet ppl use their apple vs banana opinions as ownage! Next one, Limbo VS Uncharted 2

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Lens of Truth is credible again?

Franky-the-bat

it was LEMS of Truth actually :roll: besides one site doesnt mean much(to me at least) when 30 other ones give the crown to Crysis 2...especially when one is Digital Foundry.

Digital Foundry disagrees, and so does over 40 publications, including PS3 reviewers. :lol:

why dont the cows see how pathetic they are swapping "lens of lies" for "lems of truth" whenever a 360 game is praised on that site, but claiming it as ownage when it goes in their favour.really sad yet funny.

lens of truths methods are not great and tthey base it on "personal opinion" as are all the reviews saying crysis 2 is the best looking game. digital foundry do a real anaylsis, there is never going to be a definitive answer as opinions differ on the subject. however crysis 2 is the best looking game on 360 IMO, i cant speak for the PS3 as i dont have one to compare it to. the thing that matters in here though is that there is a large number of reviews saying its the best looking game on consoles and at least some debate about it in here, which to my mind proves all those cows who said "360 will never come close to UC2 / KZ2" totally wrong, thats all.

sts106mat

These comparisons only make sense when comparing the same games yet ppl use their apple vs banana opinions as ownage! Next one, Limbo VS Uncharted 2

PAL360

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

These comparisons only make sense when comparing the same games yet ppl use their apple vs banana opinions as ownage! Next one, Limbo VS Uncharted 2

tormentos

Different games use resources in different ways. Are they counting polygons for example?

"Furthermore, both Crysis 2 and Killzone 3 have a slew of next generation rendering techniques that only high end PC'swith decked outSLI graphics cards are able to achieve."

I have only a single GPU in my machine and it runs Crysis2 very nicely at resolutions higher than "720P", it's hardly a high end machine either...

Cows and Lems, once again fighting over second place. Congrats guize. Congrats.

"Furthermore, both Crysis 2 and Killzone 3 have a slew of next generation rendering techniques that only high end PC'swith decked outSLI graphics cards are able to achieve."

I have only a single GPU in my machine and it runs Crysis2 very nicely at resolutions higher than "720P", it's hardly a high end machine either...

WAJ

Yeah that's not exactly accurate.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

These comparisons only make sense when comparing the same games yet ppl use their apple vs banana opinions as ownage! Next one, Limbo VS Uncharted 2

PAL360

Different games use resources in different ways. Are they counting polygons for example?

There never was a chance for multiplat Crysis2 to compete with PS3 exclusives. PS3 is more powerful then 360 that's an obvious and well known fact. Ugh look at the disgusting resolution for the cutscenes in Crysis 2. That Archaic DVD format has got to go. Hope they come out with the X-Box 720 soon so we can get some multiplats that are actually impressive.

And according to Lense of Truth Killzone 3 wins

"Conclusion:Although Crysis 2 looks fantastic on both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, the graphics crown still belongs toGuerrilla's Killzone 3. Not only does Killzone 3 look graphicallybetter, the performance its more stable throughout. That being said, with serious graphical contenders on the horizon such as Battlefield 3 and RAGE, how long can Killzone 3 hold on to the title? We'll just haveto wait and see!"

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head/head2head-killzone-3-vs-crysis-2-analysis/

Looks like PS3 exclusives still reign supreme. Sorry lems.

TheSterls

This was old, but still hilarious nontheless, Crysis 2 goes up there with Alan Wake and Metro 2033 it seems.

This is old, and yeah we know - the only one's clinging on still to Crysis 2 are lems and closet lems....Kan0nF0dder

....and non biased gamers, and reviewers, etc...

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]This is old, and yeah we know - the only one's clinging on still to Crysis 2 are lems and closet lems....PAL360

....and non biased gamers, and reviewers, etc...

edit - should probabaly say I've only seen Crysis 2 on PS3 and PC. It's not king on PC either.

Sorry PS3 only owners - Crysis 2 wins - It wasn't even really that difficult to decide.Seeing as how I own Killzone 3 & Crysis 2 on the 360, my opinion is the only one that matters. Out!

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[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]This is old, and yeah we know - the only one's clinging on still to Crysis 2 are lems and closet lems....Kan0nF0dder

....and non biased gamers, and reviewers, etc...

edit - should probabaly say I've only seen Crysis 2 on PS3 and PC. It's not king on PC either.

Like you said, it´s close! Dont you think that fact allows ppl to have diferent opinions? When it comes to tech, i honestly cant tell the diference between many console games like Uncharted 2, Red Dead Redemption, Killzone 3, Crysis 2 and a few others and im pretty sure no one here can.

This is old, and yeah we know - the only one's clinging on still to Crysis 2 are lems and closet lems.Kan0nF0dder

Seems like the cows are clinging onto this only piece of "evidence". Over 30 - 40 reviewers have said Crysis 2 is the best looking FPS / game on consoles. Digital Foundry said Crysis 2s visuals are cutting edge, and does things never seen before on consoles. Anyone with unimpaired eyesight can see Crysis 2 looks better than Killzone 3. :lol:

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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

....and non biased gamers, and reviewers, etc...

PAL360

edit - should probabaly say I've only seen Crysis 2 on PS3 and PC. It's not king on PC either.

Like you said, it´s close! Dont you think that fact allows ppl to have diferent opinions? When it comes to tech, i honestly cant tell the diference between many console games like Uncharted 2, Red Dead Redemption, Killzone 3, Crysis 2 and a few others and im pretty sure no one here can.

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]This is old, and yeah we know - the only one's clinging on still to Crysis 2 are lems and closet lems.DreamCryotank

Seems like the cows are clinging onto this only piece of "evidence". Over 30 - 40 reviewers have said Crysis 2 is the best looking FPS / game on consoles. Digital Foundry said Crysis 2s visuals are cutting edge, and does things never seen before on consoles. Anyone with unimpaired eyesight can see Crysis 2 looks better than Killzone 3. :lol:

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[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]This is old, and yeah we know - the only one's clinging on still to Crysis 2 are lems and closet lems.Kan0nF0dder

Seems like the cows are clinging onto this only piece of "evidence". Over 30 - 40 reviewers have said Crysis 2 is the best looking FPS / game on consoles. Digital Foundry said Crysis 2s visuals are cutting edge, and does things never seen before on consoles. Anyone with unimpaired eyesight can see Crysis 2 looks better than Killzone 3. :lol:

Ok, 2 publications agree with you, while over 30 disagree.

30 > 2

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

why dont the cows see how pathetic they are swapping "lens of lies" for "lems of truth" whenever a 360 game is praised on that site, but claiming it as ownage when it goes in their favour.really sad yet funny.

lens of truths methods are not great and tthey base it on "personal opinion" as are all the reviews saying crysis 2 is the best looking game. digital foundry do a real anaylsis, there is never going to be a definitive answer as opinions differ on the subject. however crysis 2 is the best looking game on 360 IMO, i cant speak for the PS3 as i dont have one to compare it to. the thing that matters in here though is that there is a large number of reviews saying its the best looking game on consoles and at least some debate about it in here, which to my mind proves all those cows who said "360 will never come close to UC2 / KZ2" totally wrong, thats all.

sts106mat

I never called them lense of lies and I own both consoels. Hell check my gamertag , TheSterls. And my Crysis 2 acheivments on 360. I just thought it funny lems were gloating about how the 360 version looked so much better then the ps3 version( They look pretty much identical) and then claimed it looked better then any game on any console.( Deffinetly top 5 but not better then KZ3.)

But hell lems post these comparisons all dayand one bigone doesnt go there way and theyand now they suck. Also there anaylsis are some of the best next to digital foundry , bar better then IGN's which are pretty muchworthless.

I don't think it's a very good idea to attempt to call out the hypocrisy of one faction and not the other in a case like this, as both sides flip flop constantly over such things.

As for whether the 360 can match current ps3 exclusives. I think they can, but I think the ps3 has the higher potential. The thing of it is though, is that having hardware capable of doing something that nobody is making it do is worse than having hardware not capable of it.

What I mean is, a complete lack of effort on MS's part is not a positive argument in favor of the 360, but that does seem to be the go-to argument.

How many threads do we need about LoT´s opinion? I could make a thread aswell for every site that said Crysis 2 was the best looking console game :?

This is old, and yeah we know - the only one's clinging on still to Crysis 2 are lems and closet lems.Kan0nF0dder

Interstellar Marines looks better than both Crysis 2 and Killzone 3, and the funny thing is, IM is an indie game powered by Unity3D.

And so history repeats itself once again! Lemms has failed with Alan wake, SP conviction, Halo Reach and now Crysis 2 joins the list of their failed attempt of so called graphics messiah. Guess what's in common with all these games? They're all Sub HD games literally. You guys really need to get a proper 1280 x 720 HD game hint, Gears3 for the contest next time. Just my personal suggestion.gpuking

Fighting for second place in graphics I see. Most interesting.

Well, carry on.

And so history repeats itself once again! Lemms has failed with Alan wake, SP conviction, Halo Reach and now Crysis 2 joins the list of their failed attempt of so called graphics messiah. Guess what's in common with all these games? They're all Sub HD games literally. You guys really need to get a proper 1280 x 720 HD game hint, Gears3 for the contest next time. Just my personal suggestion.gpuking

The analysis is very flawed. It's like theyhad a meeting to discuss how they would pull of this analysis to benefit one group or another.One person probably thought of a way to mess up the pictures in both of thegames and make them low res and make up a fake explanation that sounds legit to anyone that doesn't look at the messed up pictures before they look at the explanations. I would rather what for a better analysis that doesn't use low res pics in some of the pics. In my opinion neither game won from this analysis because they weren't represented fairly.

[QUOTE="gpuking"]And so history repeats itself once again! Lemms has failed with Alan wake, SP conviction, Halo Reach and now Crysis 2 joins the list of their failed attempt of so called graphics messiah. Guess what's in common with all these games? They're all Sub HD games literally. You guys really need to get a proper 1280 x 720 HD game hint, Gears3 for the contest next time. Just my personal suggestion.super600

The analysis is very flawed. It's like theyhad a meeting to discuss how they would pull of this analysis to benefit one group or another.One person probably thought of a way to mess up the pictures in both of thegames and make them low res and make up a fake explanation that sounds legit to anyone that doesn't look at the messed up pictures before they look at the explanations. I would rather what for a better analysis that doesn't use low res pics. In my opinion neither game won from this analysis because they weren't represented fairly.

Meh I own both id have to go to KZ3 but everyone will have there opionions they both look great.

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[QUOTE="gpuking"]And so history repeats itself once again! Lemms has failed with Alan wake, SP conviction, Halo Reach and now Crysis 2 joins the list of their failed attempt of so called graphics messiah. Guess what's in common with all these games? They're all Sub HD games literally. You guys really need to get a proper 1280 x 720 HD game hint, Gears3 for the contest next time. Just my personal suggestion.TheSterls

The analysis is very flawed. It's like theyhad a meeting to discuss how they would pull of this analysis to benefit one group or another.One person probably thought of a way to mess up the pictures in both of thegames and make them low res and make up a fake explanation that sounds legit to anyone that doesn't look at the messed up pictures before they look at the explanations. I would rather what for a better analysis that doesn't use low res pics. In my opinion neither game won from this analysis because they weren't represented fairly.

Meh I own both id have to go to KZ3 but everyone will have there opionions they both look great.

LofT still did butcher some of the pics for both games.

Lens of Truth is credible again?

waltefmoney

Could someone explain how this whole "Lens of Truth is not credible" thing began???

I have never seen one person give any solid reason as to why they are "not credible"

Just curious:|

and btw, I have noticed that when PS3 strikes up a couple wins on their site is when their credibility really comes under fire. hmmmmm........

I could care less if Killzone 3 looks better than Crysis 2, in the end of the day Crysis 2 had a much better single player campaign, and better gameplay for campaign. Sure, Killzone might have a better MP, but beating Crysis in multiplayer isn't a huge feat to accomplish, especially when Killzone 3's multiplayer isn't all that good itself.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Lens of Truth is credible again?

mztazmz

Could someone explain how this whole "Lens of Truth is not credible" thing began???

I have never seen one person give any solid reason as to why they are "not credible"

Just curious:|

and btw, I have noticed that when PS3 strikes up a couple wins on their site is when their credibility really comes under fire. hmmmmm........

Hasn't this been posted before numerous times? correct me if i'm wrong.

How many Lense of Truth of Crysis 2 have I seen already...?

How many Lense of Truth of Crysis 2 have I seen already...?

klusps

Hasn't this been posted before numerous times? correct me if i'm wrong.

WasacreOL

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Lens of Truth is credible again?

mztazmz

Could someone explain how this whole "Lens of Truth is not credible" thing began???

I have never seen one person give any solid reason as to why they are "not credible"

Just curious:|

and btw, I have noticed that when PS3 strikes up a couple wins on their site is when their credibility really comes under fire. hmmmmm........

Pick any random comparison they do, and chances are a few things are going stick out that make you ask "why did they do that?"

The most common repeated thing I've noticed is they'll take a screencap while textures are obviously still loading and proclaim blurry textures.

And so history repeats itself once again! Lemms has failed with Alan wake, SP conviction, Halo Reach and now Crysis 2 joins the list of their failed attempt of so called graphics messiah. Guess what's in common with all these games? They're all Sub HD games literally. You guys really need to get a proper 1280 x 720 HD game hint, Gears3 for the contest next time. Just my personal suggestion.gpuking

And according to Lense of Truth Killzone 3 wins

"Conclusion:Although Crysis 2 looks fantastic on both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, the graphics crown still belongs toGuerrilla's Killzone 3. Not only does Killzone 3 look graphicallybetter, the performance its more stable throughout. That being said, with serious graphical contenders on the horizon such as Battlefield 3 and RAGE, how long can Killzone 3 hold on to the title? We'll just haveto wait and see!"

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head/head2head-killzone-3-vs-crysis-2-analysis/

Looks like PS3 exclusives still reign supreme. Sorry lems.

TheSterls

*my take on things*

crysis 2 is a fantastic looking game both graphically and overall visually. the *core graphics* are even better than uncharted 2 and god of war 3. lighting is spectacular and is the best I've seen in ANY game, it has a nice sense of scale, and textures are pretty good for a console game - up there with killzone 3 but not quite at gow 3's or uncharted 2's level. and considering the scale with all of these things going on as well as added effects like bokeh, make for a fantastic visual experience.

however, the game does lack polish. it has some graphical glitches, like things phazing in and out, objects floating in mid air, inconsistent a.i. , enimies getting stuck on objects ect. as well as some framerate dips, and frequent object pop up. (but the game usually does run pretty smoothly, about a 27 - 28 fps avg.) it also runs at a sub Hd resolution on both consoles, (lower on the ps3 but the ps3 version has higher AF to compensate) and it also uses an AA method which works well on jaggies, but causes ghosting on objects.

even with all its issues, the game is just so dam impressive that it's easily up there with both killzone games, but it does fall a bit short compared to uncharted 2 and gow because of noticeable lack of polish.

and omg the lighting is just amazing :) just another great example of when a nice art design and technical achievement come together.