Let's be honest fanboys, the launches are a disaster.

Whether Sheep and Cows will deny this, or Xbox Fans, let get the facts straight.

I have never seen a launch of a system (Coleco Adam excluded) this fucking messed up before in my life it's absolutely stunning.

PS4

Sony was pushing the PS4 and letting MS take on the pain early on by ACCIDENT. Which changed Sony's strategy when they showed the console at E3, and wanted to capitalize on the Pre-e3 MS console reveal as fast as possible, especially in the U.S.

The Pre-e3 MS reveal despite saving the games for E3, which made sense, was met with backlash for barely any reason and Sony wanted to capitalize on that.

Because of the early hurt for Microsoft and it's Xbox One, Sony completely slipped on effort and decided to just ride with what they had taking hits at MS and getting tons of praise until MS started slowly turning themselves around and they started implementing things late.

We have a console with questionable reliability, no showing of extended use of the new controller, delayed games, a pay wall which they tried to hide at E3, and a TON of features that can't be accessed without a Day one patch, which the Xbox still had a main complaint of despite the turn around.

The lack of providing actual full PS4 demo units to retailers or conventions, and the lack of launch focus, Sony once again like the PS3 got cocky. he launch may partially still be in Sonys favor based on what has already happened, but that happened with the PS3 as well and that ended up in last place.

Don't forget the lack of launch support.

Xbox One

Xbox One despite the fanboys, was changing the policies to relate to PC gaming and other distribution programs wanted by fans with a test on XBL with a few games that did similar functions although not fully. This ended up backfiring with insane rumors of NSA take overs, trying to rob people of there money, saying that lending and used games despite gamespots support would hurt consumers and kill the industry.

The biggest issue that even I had with the above was that they said NOTHING the WHOLE time from the pre-e3 till the E3, they said nothing, not even a twisted lie to try and slow the hurt, they just watched and stared at people. They even indirectly attacked people and stated nothing was going to change which ended up being an INTERNAL conflict over what the head of the entertainment division (Excluding Mattrick) actually wanted to do, which eventually led to a reversal.

The reversal was praised, but then there were still and even presently still people trying to cause conspiracies about what they will do next. Still having the Kinect Bundled after that decision, even after admitting it is not technically needed just caused more issues. But after awhile the only major complaint that is still focused on was the Day one patch.

The same day one patch the PS4 needs for a different set of functions as well, including functions the Xbox One had at launch without the patch,

I would say that MS's E3, and game announcements/trailers are the only real reason why they even got out of the whole that was more dug for them from the ignorant consumers than themselves but they were still largely part of the problem. Things are much better now, but there are still issues just like the PS4 has currently, that are inexcusable.

Wii U

Like the Adam of back in the day, the Wii U was actually made filled with promises that were completely broke. They wanted to grab third-parties, especially western devs, which they had lost since the NES, they wanted to target everyone and have a market for the hardcore, they wanted to bring hardcore innovation, more support for games in general, bring up the online and app features, expand their First-party, and offer connectivity with portables. These are among the other promises.

And like the Adam except one thing, online, which is still debated, everything was bullshit. The Wii U started grabbing 3rd-party support but then dropped it, they did the same with the 3DS, but then eventually they did manage to get a lot of eastern third-party support for the 3DS, which did not come to the Wii U.

They focused too much on the controller to the point were it caused and still causes confusion of what the Wii U is. Is it even a new system? Probably not. Maybe. I don't know. The lack of advantages shown with the controller other than certain online functions was also just horribly non-informal.

They expected people to buy the games they threw out at launch, a Wii upscale and a tech demo pretty much, and priced the Wii U deceptively so that the cheaper version with a game separate would cost more than the expensive version bundled with a game.

They cut back on core gaming and are not aiming for an audience that I am not even sure if they know who it is. They have been in a low sales situation until present day with little to no interest. They have not upped effort, they have not upped advertising, and they are trying to just put the Wii U on as many shelves as possible, making deals with certain retailers worldwide, yet they don't put effort to make a reason for someone to pick the damn thing up with all that shelf space.

OUYA

Technically, if you count this as a console, this is as of now, the first place console if going by Ouyas numbers are true (until X! ad PS4 launch) Ouya was a product filled with promises and won the support of the little people in the first massive success in crowd funding (which I believe is a flawed market)

And what a mess that was. The launch was not even ready even though it was promised. There are STILL PEOPLE NOW who helped fund the project that do not have one yet, and that happened since launch. They went back on their world launch and focused almost entirely on the U.S.

They showed tons of games during pre-launch, only to end up with 80% of the launch list un available. TO this day the thing barely has 400 games and like 12 exclusives. Which was also promised, and half-assed dev kits, which is actually the system itself, completely different from what they showed.

Ouya has been hiding numbers of software sales which are a 15th or more of the hardware sales they are claiming and want a new Ouya every year. They are JUST NOW getting to Europe, and finally making slight real profit that can be tracked.

The side effect is that there words twists have caused people to think this is a successful market even for handhelds, and there are million dollar projects just to put android games on a freaking TV. Sure, one of them is a powerful as the PS4/X1, but that is still besides the point.

OVERALL

This is probably the most painful to watch console launch. Every console launch into the first few months to a year or so has been handled like a crippled hobo high on crack. It's almost as painful as the year 2012 campaign by the Reps. Almost like nobody gave a shit and everyone thinks all their loyal consumers or buyers who trust them will just eat what dog food they throw on the floor. All of these prepared launches and launches are disasters in the literal sense of the word.

It amazes me how anyone can defend any of them in most areas. Sure, one could say console X may be fine against console Y and yeah, there are a lot of you here, but ALL of you deny WHAT IS THERE and deny that all of these pre-, present, and post launches are nightmares that are inexcusable and are in the real world, why almost what, 20 million+ gamers world wide don't want next gen yet. And more if you add the ones that are like I will wait and see.

so lems knowing they cant win are going for draw now? xD

You seem to be bringing the PS4 into this mess that MS has made for themselves. Wonder if there is a reason for that...

Only issue I have seen with Sony so far is Driveclub being delayed and a day one update for PS4. Neither seem to be a very big deal. Driveclub will only be better for it in the end and the update will activate many of the features that the PS4 has.

But the PS4 launch, so far, is far from a disaster although it is yet to happen yet.

Xbone on the other hand just cannot seem to shake what seems like bad news day after day. I just get the impression that you are finally willing to admit the stinking mess that MS has made with the Xbone, but you are only willing to do so if you can convince people that the PS4 is in the same boat, which it is not.

It's the same crap they pulled with DRM lol

"But Sony iz doing it t00!"

there is an easy anwer to that, its called being a delusional lem.

"Honest fanboy" is an oxymoron - see above^ (and more than likely below)

I wouldn't say the launches are/will be a disaster, it's the 'journalism', marketing and PR that are awful this time around.

The fact that you for some reason don't see the actual PS4 issues in your face, or the fact you can't prove I support either (posting news is not supporting a side) just makes this post full of butthurt because you know that the PS4 launch is just as much of a disaster.

The fact you just twisted this into a lem thing for no actual reason just shows your desperation to avoid admitting Sonyhas made just as much a disaster of their launch as MS in comparison to other console launches pre- and post.

The PS4 is unstoppable.

lol no.

Your damage control is a disaster though.

Console launches always flop. PS2/Xbox/PS3/360. The games start kicking in a year after launch

XBox One has great launch games. I'm not saying that in 3 years time it will have a better libary than the PS4 but the first 12 months look to be some of the best in console history

Wonder Woman looks on, puzzled. "What is the saying you mortals have here in SW? Live, Love, Learn. Lock and loaded. PS4 day 1? By Gamers, for gamers, or something like that? At any rate...Lord Zeus wouldn't have pre-ordered a PS4 if it was plagued with such issues."

You know what TC, i was actually thinking the same thing this morning, this particular launch is turning out to be terrible for some reason, i cannot quite put my finger on it exactly, but its making me want the consoles less and less. However though some of your points are wrong, the PS4 controller has been used extensively by consumers

I can't prove you support either?

Dude you have made your opinions and unholy love for the Xbone evident for quite some time now. But if you no longer feel that way, i can't say that I blame you.

But seriously....you truly believe that the PS4 launch is equal to what has been going on with the Xbone and MS? I hope to god you are joking with that.

While the PS4 launch has not been perfect, you are a complete nut if you think that somehow it's as bad as the damage Microsoft has caused to the Xbox brand since the Xbone was announced.

Everything that is being pinned to the PS4 is just supposition. So, I don't think that is an honest conclusion at this time.

They all shyt on the wii ewww

See^

DGAF. I'm still getting my PS4, baby!

Not for me. I own a PC/PS3/Wiiu/360 and 3DS, the PS4 will be a nice addition to my current gaming and I have so many games to play on the other systems, that I can just sit back and enjoy the PS4. If there are problems with the software I can wait till they get fixed and I'll have a extended warranty on the hardware itself. I know console launches and the problems associated with them and that doesn't bother me.

I'm getting the PS4 on launch night and it will be my first launch console ever. Cant wait.

Just got a DS4 controller today and it's awesome! :D

Greatness Awaits TC

Sony.

PS4

lolno

They're all terrible

Anyone who buys one of those boxes on launch day is an objectively stupid person or, and this is the only exceptions, so wealthy as to genuinely not care about paying more to get vastly less.

You'll be paying half a grand on console + games to play a shitty lineup of launch games on rushed hardware which already needs patching just to be functional and cannot be shown to reviewers or the world at large through fear of the constant stream of crashes and bugs and glitches that they're both exhibiting.

Just wait until after christmas. Play GTA 5. Play Battlefield 4. Next summer they'll both have a decent library of games, will probably already have a price cut, hardware revisions to account for failure rates and will ship with fully functioning software.

I'm very happy for you man and I hope you have a whale of a time with the PS4

PS4's launch is far from being considered a disaster, it is very safe though.

Xbone's launch is a disaster, that's for sure.

Personally, they just don't have enough games to warrant their entry prices, and the number of exclusive games this gen will most certainly be smaller than last gen (which was much smaller than the gen before it).

I really can't justify buying a single one as a PC gamer.

MS makes a mess and you blame Sony? Hmm....let me guess what brand your support.

I actually haven't in anyway at all. Especially since the few time I put up PS4 news I never actually criticized them directly or indirectly, for the sole reason of this insane belief that I am some huge Xbox supporter, but alas, that does not matter as you are as dumb as ever like the others.

Man you reading skills are stupid. but I doubt like other on here you can even point out where you came to this hilarious fanboy conclusion.

Sure I can....your post. Read it.

So you didn't at all...Is it...hard...for...you...?

If you had been around for other launches, you'd realize there have been far, far worse

Google it

;.

I have had a PS4 preordered since June 11th and not a day goes by now that the launch lineup makes me question canceling it.

LOL@ any thread starting with "Lets be honest"

Oh.....Cool story bro.

And, blog it.

Am I missing anything?

I honestly think people who pre-order this stuff and get it at launch are fools.. They are setting them selves up for massive disappointment instead of waiting a few days to weeks like any rational purchaser.. Instead they buy into the press put forward by the companies ad agencies in which they make it look like the second coming..

They haven't happened yet and your post is filled with crappy, unsupported opinions.

This is the first time since the SNES I wont be doing a next gen console at launch. Everything I want will be available on PC. So, there is no incentive for me to get one right away. I shall be waiting for Infamous SS and Destiny before I drop some money,

Buying the ps4 at launch in case the hype is real. If I can flip it, great, if not, 6 years of great games.

well you did say sheep, cows then say xbox fans instead of lems

and the ps4 isssues are almost non-issues ...oh no a day 1 patch that will run in the background while you play games and drive club delayed
PS4 launch was so screwed up... yeaaaaa ...but no

Launch seems awesome, not sure what mess we're talking about. Getting the PS4 and 4-5 games, which is more games than I've ever purchased at a systems launch (and I mean launch day and not the extended window).

I feel like so many people never experienced the PSX, PS2, N64 etc in terms of launches that... well sucked, or got a pass b/c of one game (looking at you N64).

Meh. Killzone Shadow Fall is already out. The controllers and camera are out. Battlefield and AC4 will make it out. CoD Ghosts will make it out. Forza will make it out.. This is all quality stuff unlike the worthless crap that hits most launches. Quality>Quantity

Xbone is a failure so lems are trying to pretend PS4 is having the same problems LOL pathetic.

If I didn't have a PC, I would be fine with the game selection at launch for the PS4. Plenty of indie games, multiplats, and exclusives to pick from for me. I am waiting a year at least to get the PS4. By then, the launch games should be $20 each or less (indie). I just think today's gamer is a crybaby who wants and expects too much.

Well after reading your PS4 part (the only part I bothered to read), all I have to say is...

What do you gain by waiting a few days to weeks?

You gain by waiting for official feedback on the said product possibly avoiding said problems happening to you directly.. Whether it's hardware problems to numerous things.. You would think people would realize this stuff in the GAMING industry in which games like Aliens: Colonial Marines releases.. This is nothing new, we have hardware and software in the past fvck up at release due to shoddy management or rushing the said product out.. In fact this kind of stuff, preordering it based on the publicity done by the AD DEPARTMENTS of the said company, promotes this kind of behavior quite often in companies.

Sony won't even send their PS4 console to journalist so they can review their games. That's a disaster in itself. If "GREATNESS AWAITS" wouldn't you want journalist to review your product and tell the world? lmao!! Sony is hiding something. lol!! Can't wait for Nov 15th.

X-Files - The Truth Is Out There"

I don't care what anyone says! Being an early console adopter is where the party's at!