These are the most common reasons why people do not game on PC's. I would just like to hear your comments, questions and concerns about the below discussed topics. Let's not go into a flame war. I am giving my opinions on these topics and explaining the way I see it. I know some of you just do not want to game on pc's and only play on consoles and that's cool I play them too. I got them all and I just want to get more clarification then just a bunch of "DB's" arguing about it in PC bashing threads or Console Bashing threads. I know the in's and out's of all consoles as I own them all and I build gaming PC's so I have a background in all areas. I've been gaming for over 25 years so I would just like to hear your outlook on these three subjects in response to what I've shared.
(this thread is ignoring exclusives, all systems have exclusives and I understand that, that's why I own them all. That being said, my PC is and always will be my main gaming system.)
1. Too Expensive
Yeah some of us like to blow money on our systems. We are in it to win it. Performance comes with a price but at the same time performance is in the eye of the beholder as well. A retail Gaming PC should never cost you more then 1800 for a system and monitor that will max out any game and run at 30 fps plus. Spending more is ensuring the future for years and for bragging rights. Of course if you build your own systems like most of us then that same 1800 dollar system is going to run you about 700-1000 dollars and two hours of build time. For example my sig rig with all three 22" monitors and surround sound cost me 1200. Now that being said spending 1800 on a retail gaming pc is crazy and some are intimidated to build there own gaming pc's. So what can those individuals do.......buy an emachines desktop at bestbuy or the equivalent for literally 320 and a monitor for not even a 100 along with a 70 dollar video card and have the geeks squad install it and you got a full blown computer that can game at or slightly above a consoles performance at a cost of somewhere between 500-600 bucks with tax.
Now you say that's much more then it would cost me to buy a console. That is true but everyone needs a computer and now you have a full blow computer that will also game for a couple years. You don't have to keep your settings at high. A game that comes out now that you're playing on medium or high settings will hold up for the couple years playing newer games on lower graphical settings. You don't have to upgrade every six months to play new games. You just might have to turn down a couple of two or three settings down a notch to get better performance. Which generally you don't even notice these changes for a couple years until your games are playing at low settings and lower resolutions. By this time graphics cards that cost 300 dollars are now 50-100 so why wouldn't you buy a new one to keep you playing for another two years until its time to buy a new computer anyway.
Games are cheaper as well. Not to mention the massive sales that occur through out the year for digital downloads. My buddy just picked up BFBC2 for 6.87 right before Christmas and I got it for 30 bucks at release on a sale from steam. Accessories are cheaper as well. You have such a huge market of companies that make accessories that everything is cheap. Yeah you can get into the really expensive stuff but why unless your really serious about your equipment.
2. Comfort
I don't understand the whole "I don't like sitting in a chair and gaming at a desk, I like my couch" There is nothing stopping you from playing your PC on your couch. I built a media PC for my living room that I use for Music, Radio, TV, Netflix, Gaming, Internet and Porn.....LOL just kidding!. Graphics cards are made with HDMI ports, VGA ports as well as DP, DVI and some have "S" connectors. So every TV input port is basically covered and if not they make an adapter for it. Every PS3 and Xbox 360 controller can be used on a PC for gaming. Wireless keyboards and wireless mice can all be used. So why can't you be chilling on your couch?
3. Ease
I hear too much that it is so much easier to put a console game into a disk tray and go. Well no not always especially with PS3 you have to install 50%. of PS3 games. Even when it is that easy as just sticking the game in the tray, are you so lazy that you can't put a DVD into adisk tray on your computer and have your computer say "I'm going to install this game here!, do you want me to put a shortcut to start the game on your desktop"? then just hit "ok" and wait for five minutes while you hit the bathroom and grab something to drink. Once installed we start Patching. Same goes for consoles. When was the last time you bought a console game you didn't have to patch at release. Same goes for PC you install then patch. That's Just the way it is. Updating drivers can occur, its the same thing as updating console firmware. Every so often you have to update the firmware or drivers on your computer. Difference is generally you don't have to update drivers on your pc to play the game it just might give you better performance as where consoles you have to update. "PC games don't always work on your computer" some say. Well I've never had this problem other then having out of date equipment. I've never had a game not work because of what some say are software conflicts and such. Read the minimum specs for heaven sakes. No person under the age of 30 should not know a little about computer specs and hardware. Seriously you were born in the age of computers and you see what operation system your running every time you boot up your computer so if you're buying a game that does support it you should know by looking at the box.
Let talk about the 3 most used reasons why people don't game on PC's
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Consoles are easyer and cheaper and for comfort that is subjective .
The console as an electronics appliance is very attractive to average joe. An open custumizable platform, on the other hand is a scary, complicated thing.
Agreed, I can understand that.Explain how.Consoles are easyer and cheaper and for comfort that is subjective .
dontshackzmii
For me consoles are better for a few reasons.
1.Friends are all console players cept a couple
2.Prefer consoles, easier and more convenient to my tastes
3.Cant get EA skate on PC *shrugs*.
The most likely reason in my eyes is that many people only have one computer, a laptop for work or school. If their primary concerns are weight, size, and battery life, then a gaming rig isn't really in the cards for them.
I have a gaming rig and a work laptop. A friend of mine has just a laptop that he uses for both, and the thing is an asinine monolith that he has to haul around all the time. The battery life is only about an hour and a half when not playing games too.
The expense is a valid point. Many a time i've seen the point of "but you get a PC with it, which can do all sorts of things other than gaming", which is very true, however, what if the individual needs or uses a laptop for the majority of the time. I have a gaming rig, yet a laptop is a necessity due to school. Is this the same for everybody? No. Still we cannot tar everybody with the same brush as it were.
Your point regarding the couch is valid, as that is how I played mine in my last setup.
Your problem with the last point is that everything is pretty much automated on consoles with regars to installing, updating etc. Whilst the PC has come a long, long way with regards to this, there are still issues where consoles simply beat it out in terms of simplicity. Don't mistake consoles utilizing more PC-centric "options" with it becoming more and more complicated, because nigh on everything is done in short, simple steps.
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All in all, you bring some good points to the table, and I only had an issue with a couple.
1: MY computer cost me 700$ 4 years ago. its a Quad core and i can still play any game maxed or close thank you very much. Do i have to mention pc games are way cheaper than xbox games ? and that many DLC are FREE ? do xbox360 have steam ?? ffs.. mario bros on xbox live arcade is like 10 bucks ..i could buy team fortress 2 with that
2: Im playing pc games on this http://www.leblogdeco.fr/wp-content/fauteuil-ravioli-chair.jpeg
3: well i cant argue with you one that one.
1) Everyone needs a computer but not everyone needs a desktop. They're are people with laptops and Mac-based PC's that simply aren't meant for gaming, and buying a second PC for them would be redundant. Steam sales are awesome though, and even though I don't have a gaming laptop I still end up buying a game or two for the hell of it :P
On consoles I just tend to rent most of my games. $6-$10 gets the game with just enough time I need to beat the story and decide to never touch it again.
2) Agreed. I can move between console or PC gaming with the only real thing being readjusting to the K+M. If I buy a Wired 360 Controller for windows though, that'd pretty much just eliminate that problem all together.
3) PC gaming requires more tinkering. Some see it as a con, other's enjoy it. But no one denies that there usually more troubleshooting involved with PC. But then again, PC has mods which means they some problems console gamers have to deal with can quickly be solved by the community on PC. A trade-off really.
1.) PC
2.) Gamers
3.) Are Loners
poorfamz
We're all gamespot users here, theres no point trying to prove that other people are loners when you have a gamespot account. :P
1. Too expensive - true, the "a good PC will cost you $3,000" complaint has long been proven false. However, in point #2 you talk about how you use your PC on your TV (which, as an HDTV, costs more than your average PC monitor) and there are some other necessarily components that go above the 500-600 mark you talked about. 2. Comfort - I have nothing against this point 3. Ease - again, I do not disagree with your point, but "ease" is relative. You mention updates: console games automatically download these. On the other hand, for a PC game the issue is more complex. Do you need to download the official patch? Maybe that wasn't enough, so is there a community-made patch? Okay, you got that installed, but some drivers are out of date. So, you go to yet another website to download those. Consoles have their own problems but in terms of ease, you can go to the store, buy a PS3, plug it in, put in (for example) Uncharted 2, and then play. You will not have as easy of a setup on PC. The biggest point you missed is GAMES! PC has a lot of great games but what about (I'm simply naming off popular console games) Halo, Forza, Gran Turismo, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear, Mario, Zelda, Red Dead Redemption, Rock Band, God of War, and so forth? People like these games, and you can't find them on PC. That has great effect on what platform people choose. Yes, TECHNICALLY PC may outclass consoles in graphics, have better mod support, better online, etc., but when it comes to the games, there are genres on consoles that PC does not have. What is the PC's equivalent of Uncharted 2 or God of War 3? What's the PC's equivalent of Forza or Gran Turismo? What about RDR? PC gamers love to play the graphics and mod game, but they ignore actual video games.MrmccormoYour comment about HDMI Tv's does work because like I said graphics cards have many different connections and if it doesn't they make adapters. As described in my original post. Your comment about updating is kind of right but for the most part in order to play a game you don't have to update your drivers it just helps make the game preform better. as described in my original post. Your comment about games what disclaimed in the beginning of my post. I didn't miss it. I explained i'm excluding exclusives from this debat. Thanks for your input though. I'm glad we are keeping this civil. I know not all things work out perfectly but I hear what your saying.
Agreed yet your still overlooking that you only have to tinker if you want more or less performance out of your system. Computers install the game and figure out the setting you should use for optimal performance. All you have to do is double click and play. Drivers and software updates for the most part are 75% of the time optional and when they aren't 90% of the updates are included on the game disc and the installer askes you if you want to install them or just does it anyway. Consoles are very slightly ahead in this department, but good point!The expense is a valid point. Many a time i've seen the point of "but you get a PC with it, which can do all sorts of things other than gaming", which is very true, however, what if the individual needs or uses a laptop for the majority of the time. I have a gaming rig, yet a laptop is a necessity due to school. Is this the same for everybody? No. Still we cannot tar everybody with the same brush as it were.
Your point regarding the couch is valid, as that is how I played mine in my last setup.
Your problem with the last point is that everything is pretty much automated on consoles with regars to installing, updating etc. Whilst the PC has come a long, long way with regards to this, there are still issues where consoles simply beat it out in terms of simplicity. Don't mistake consoles utilizing more PC-centric "options" with it becoming more and more complicated, because nigh on everything is done in short, simple steps.
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All in all, you bring some good points to the table, and I only had an issue with a couple.
lundy86_4
See now you have some good points! The only thing I can say is mac's can play many games if you emulate windows. Lappys like mine can hook up to tvs and be played on a tv like I do from time to time. Pc gaming only requires more tinkering if you want more or less performance out of your system. Pc's are great at installing a game and optimizing your settings right out of the box so you don't have to mess with anything. Just double click and play.1) Everyone needs a computer but not everyone needs a desktop. They're are people with laptops and Mac-based PC's that simply aren't meant for gaming, and buying a second PC for them would be redundant. Steam sales are awesome though, and even though I don't have a gaming laptop I still end up buying a game or two for the hell of it :P
On consoles I just tend to rent most of my games. $6-$10 gets the game with just enough time I need to beat the story and decide to never touch it again.
2) Agreed. I can move between console or PC gaming with the only real thing being readjusting to the K+M. If I buy a Wired 360 Controller for windows though, that'd pretty much just eliminate that problem all together.
3) PC gaming requires more tinkering. Some see it as a con, other's enjoy it. But no one denies that there usually more troubleshooting involved with PC. But then again, PC has mods which means they some problems console gamers have to deal with can quickly be solved by the community on PC. A trade-off really.
Kickinurass
Agreed yet your still overlooking that you only have to tinker if you want more or less performance out of your system. Computers install the game and figure out the setting you should use for optimal performance. All you have to do is double click and play. Drivers and software updates for the most part are 75% of the time optional and when they aren't 90% of the updates are included on the game disc and the installer askes you if you want to install them or just does it anyway. Consoles are very slightly ahead in this department, but good point!streetridaz
Good points. I love the "Optimal Settings" they give you, though they're certainly not always the best. If you want the best image quality, you better be damned ready to jump in and fiddle with the settings :P
I may have made the disparity between updating on the PC compared to consoles a little too large. By no means is it difficult on the PC (i've personally never had issues).
Reading the red I'm going to assume you don't live with:These are the most common reasons why people do not game on PC's. I would just like to hear your comments, questions and concerns about the below discussed topics. Let's not go into a flame war. I am giving my opinions on these topics and explaining the way I see it. I know some of you just do not want to game on pc's and only play on consoles and that's cool I play them too. I got them all and I just want to get more clarification then just a bunch of "DB's" arguing about it in PC bashing threads or Console Bashing threads. I know the in's and out's of all consoles as I own them all and I build gaming PC's so I have a background in all areas. I've been gaming for over 25 years so I would just like to hear your outlook on these three subjects in response to what I've shared.
(this thread is ignoring exclusives, all systems have exclusives and I understand that, that's why I own them all. That being said, my PC is and always will be my main gaming system.)
1. Too Expensive
Yeah some of us like to blow money on our systems. We are in it to win it. Performance comes with a price but at the same time performance is in the eye of the beholder as well. A retail Gaming PC should never cost you more then 1800 for a system and monitor that will max out any game and run at 30 fps plus. Spending more is ensuring the future for years and for bragging rights. Of course if you build your own systems like most of us then that same 1800 dollar system is going to run you about 700-1000 dollars and two hours of build time. For example my sig rig with all three 22" monitors and surround sound cost me 1200. Now that being said spending 1800 on a retail gaming pc is crazy and some are intimidated to build there own gaming pc's. So what can those individuals do.......buy an emachines desktop at bestbuy or the equivalent for literally 320 and a monitor for not even a 100 along with a 70 dollar video card and have the geeks squad install it and you got a full blown computer that can game at or slightly above a consoles performance at a cost of somewhere between 500-600 bucks with tax.
Now you say that's much more then it would cost me to buy a console. That is true but everyone needs a computer and now you have a full blow computer that will also game for a couple years. You don't have to keep your settings at high. A game that comes out now that you're playing on medium or high settings will hold up for the couple years playing newer games on lower graphical settings. You don't have to upgrade every six months to play new games. You just might have to turn down a couple of two or three settings down a notch to get better performance. Which generally you don't even notice these changes for a couple years until your games are playing at low settings and lower resolutions. By this time graphics cards that cost 300 dollars are now 50-100 so why wouldn't you buy a new one to keep you playing for another two years until its time to buy a new computer anyway.
Games are cheaper as well. Not to mention the massive sales that occur through out the year for digital downloads. My buddy just picked up BFBC2 for 6.87 right before Christmas and I got it for 30 bucks at release on a sale from steam. Accessories are cheaper as well. You have such a huge market of companies that make accessories that everything is cheap. Yeah you can get into the really expensive stuff but why unless your really serious about your equipment.
2. Comfort
I don't understand the whole "I don't like sitting in a chair and gaming at a desk, I like my couch" There is nothing stopping you from playing your PC on your couch. I built a media PC for my living room that I use for Music, Radio, TV, Netflix, Gaming, Internet and Porn.....LOL just kidding!. Graphics cards are made with HDMI ports, VGA ports as well as DP, DVI and some have "S" connectors. So every TV input port is basically covered and if not they make an adapter for it. Every PS3 and Xbox 360 controller can be used on a PC for gaming. Wireless keyboards and wireless mice can all be used. So why can't you be chilling on your couch?
3. Ease
I hear too much that it is so much easier to put a console game into a disk tray and go. Well no not always especially with PS3 you have to install 50%. of PS3 games. Even when it is that easy as just sticking the game in the tray, are you so lazy that you can't put a DVD into adisk tray on your computer and have your computer say "I'm going to install this game here!, do you want me to put a shortcut to start the game on your desktop"? then just hit "ok" and wait for five minutes while you hit the bathroom and grab something to drink. Once installed we start Patching. Same goes for consoles. When was the last time you bought a console game you didn't have to patch at release. Same goes for PC you install then patch. That's Just the way it is. Updating drivers can occur, its the same thing as updating console firmware. Every so often you have to update the firmware or drivers on your computer. Difference is generally you don't have to update drivers on your pc to play the game it just might give you better performance as where consoles you have to update. "PC games don't always work on your computer" some say. Well I've never had this problem other then having out of date equipment. I've never had a game not work because of what some say are software conflicts and such. Read the minimum specs for heaven sakes. No person under the age of 30 should not know a little about computer specs and hardware. Seriously you were born in the age of computers and you see what operation system your running every time you boot up your computer so if you're buying a game that does support it you should know by looking at the box.streetridaz
A) A wife.
B) A girlfriend.
C) A mother.
Your comment about HDMI Tv's does work because like I said graphics cards have many different connections and if it doesn't they make adapters. As described in my original post. Your comment about updating is kind of right but for the most part in order to play a game you don't have to update your drivers it just helps make the game preform better. as described in my original post. Your comment about games what disclaimed in the beginning of my post. I didn't miss it. I explained i'm excluding exclusives from this debat. Thanks for your input though. I'm glad we are keeping this civil. I know not all things work out perfectly but I hear what your saying.streetridazBut do you really want to hook your PC up to a non-HD television? I missed the part where you excluded games, but to me, why exclude them? Gaming is about games. Sure, in theory we can argue about a system's specs or its capabilities, but when it all boils down, it's about what games you're able to play on this or that system.
I'm married with a career, a morgage, wife and kids. LOL I just run the household. I don't have time to game all day long but when I do play I play where i want. I generally play on my eyefinity rig in my man cave but sometime when I have friends over we hook my laptop up to the plasma and play or I play on my Media PC in the Living room.[QUOTE="streetridaz"] Reading the red I'm going to assume you don't live with:
A) A wife.
B) A girlfriend.
C) A mother.
brennan7777
[QUOTE="streetridaz"] Your comment about HDMI Tv's does work because like I said graphics cards have many different connections and if it doesn't they make adapters. As described in my original post. Your comment about updating is kind of right but for the most part in order to play a game you don't have to update your drivers it just helps make the game preform better. as described in my original post. Your comment about games what disclaimed in the beginning of my post. I didn't miss it. I explained i'm excluding exclusives from this debat. Thanks for your input though. I'm glad we are keeping this civil. I know not all things work out perfectly but I hear what your saying.MrmccormoBut do you really want to hook your PC up to a non-HD television? I missed the part where you excluded games, but to me, why exclude them? Gaming is about games. Sure, in theory we can argue about a system's specs or its capabilities, but when it all boils down, it's about what games you're able to play on this or that system.
wouldn't be any different then hooking up an HD console to a SD tv like many people do if you really think about it.
[QUOTE="brennan7777"]
Reading the red I'm going to assume you don't live with:
A) An understanding wife.
B) An understanding girlfriend.
C) An understanding mother.
lundy86_4
^^ Or better yet :P
Haha that's about right.Edit: @ TC: Awe alright. Well just consider yourself one of the lucky ones.
look at my sig...i know its not the most cost effective...but it cost less than my old dell xps...which litterally melted...but for 1600usd its a really good rig...and i can hook it up to a tv if i want...and i comes with its own monitor...but thing...i have steam which updates games automatically and is quick and easy...so u have to have an internet connection...u have to have one to be on xbl and psn anyway...so i dont see the problem...best thing...comes with wireless and hdmi and bluetooth and a good quality flawless(no dead pixel) monitor...only thing it doesnt have is bluray...but i could have had added that...and guess what...it still costs less than a dell xps and completely destroys them...thing is...i prefer using a laptop i can take all my games with me...and hit facebook...and i can sit in a room with people and play games and suck and still watch tv or hold conversations...
its reallycause ppl think its too expensive. if u have a tv u can use it for a moniter. u can probs scavange some parts from ur old pc and now u can probally get a amd quad core system with a gpu capable of playing crysis maxed at 30 fps for 700-800 bucks
sinpkr
I play with my PC hooked up to my 40-inch 1080P TV and looooooooooove it :P
Consoles are just better than PC. Period.
You don't have to deal with driver updates, expensive upgrades, consoles are to play on huge TV in the living room and they come with wireless controllers, wi-fi, a pretty straight forward online system with friend list and stuff, it's easier to play with friends online cus all of them have consoles, exclusives games like Uncharted are only on consoles. When friends come to your house you just turn on your console give them a controller and we all can enjoy a multiplayer game in a matter of seconds, you can download demos and games from the store, firmware updates, game updates and installations are automatic and there's never an error that can mess up your registry or make the console run slower... I mean, there are so many things that make the consoles superior to PC gaming that it's just stupid to even argue this fact.
Console are just more convenient than a PC if you're just going to play games. PC are for l33ts and consoles are for everyone else. Mouse and keyboard for FPS is overrated and most people don't even care about RTS, and if they wanted to play an MMO most people just play one and nothing else on PC . Most people doesn't even care about superior graphics neither, just watch Wii sales.
Hey this thread is doing great until you came in and made that comment. It all starts with post like yours. Lets keep it constructive like everyone has done thus far. Don't post useless stuff post a constructive reply. If your tired of these threads stop reading them. Your obviously not that tired of them if you keep reading them and then posting in them. I'm actually proud of this thread so far. Great points are being made and no one is talking bs right now. I'm trying to understand different mind sets right now not start some "s".Let's talk about the 3 top reason why I hate these threads:
1) There are too many of them.
2) It brings out the worst in every fanboy.
3) There are too many of them.
xYamatox
That was pointless. You didn't even read the thread.Consoles are just better than PC. Period.
You don't have to deal with driver updates, expensive upgrades, consoles are to play on huge TV in the living room and they come with wireless controllers, wi-fi, a pretty straight forward online system with friend list and stuff, it's easier to play with friends online cus all of them have consoles, exclusives games like Uncharted are only on consoles. When friends come to your house you just turn on your console give them a controller and we all can enjoy a multiplayer game in a matter of seconds, you can download demos and games from the store, firmware updates, game updates and installations are automatic and there's never an error that can mess up your registry or make the console run slower... I mean, there are so many things that make the consoles superior to PC gaming that it's just stupid to even argue this fact.
Console are just more convenient than a PC if you're just going to play games. PC are for l33ts and consoles are for everyone else. Mouse and keyboard for FPS is overrated and most people don't even care about RTS, and if they wanted to play an MMO most people just play one and nothing else on PC . Most people doesn't even care about superior graphics neither, just watch Wii sales.
Gue1
Consoles are just better than PC. Period.
You don't have to deal with driver updates, expensive upgrades, consoles are to play on huge TV in the living room and they come with wireless controllers, wi-fi, a pretty straight forward online system with friend list and stuff, it's easier to play with friends online cus all of them have consoles, exclusives games like Uncharted are only on consoles. When friends come to your house you just turn on your console give them a controller and we all can enjoy a multiplayer game in a matter of seconds, you can download demos and games from the store, firmware updates, game updates and installations are automatic and there's never an error that can mess up your registry or make the console run slower... I mean, there are so many things that make the consoles superior to PC gaming that it's just stupid to even argue this fact.
Console are just more convenient than a PC if you're just going to play games. PC are for l33ts and consoles are for everyone else. Mouse and keyboard for FPS is overrated and most people don't even care about RTS, and if they wanted to play an MMO most people just play one and nothing else on PC . Most people doesn't even care about superior graphics neither, just watch Wii sales.
Gue1
Better period? I guess it depends how you're defining better... With regards to your needs, or with regards to doing things "better" than consoles? Your post falls in line with "regards to your needs".
Hey this thread is doing great until you came in and made that comment. It all starts with post like yours. Lets keep it constructive like everyone has done thus far. Don't post useless stuff post a constructive reply. If your tired of these threads stop reading them. Your obviously not that tired of them if you keep reading them and then posting in them. I'm actually proud of this thread so far. Great points are being made and no one is talking bs right now. I'm trying to understand different mind sets right now not start some "s".[QUOTE="xYamatox"]
Let's talk about the 3 top reason why I hate these threads:
1) There are too many of them.
2) It brings out the worst in every fanboy.
3) There are too many of them.
streetridaz
That was pointless. You didn't even read the thread.Consoles are just better than PC. Period.
You don't have to deal with driver updates, expensive upgrades, consoles are to play on huge TV in the living room and they come with wireless controllers, wi-fi, a pretty straight forward online system with friend list and stuff, it's easier to play with friends online cus all of them have consoles, exclusives games like Uncharted are only on consoles. When friends come to your house you just turn on your console give them a controller and we all can enjoy a multiplayer game in a matter of seconds, you can download demos and games from the store, firmware updates, game updates and installations are automatic and there's never an error that can mess up your registry or make the console run slower... I mean, there are so many things that make the consoles superior to PC gaming that it's just stupid to even argue this fact.
Console are just more convenient than a PC if you're just going to play games. PC are for l33ts and consoles are for everyone else. Mouse and keyboard for FPS is overrated and most people don't even care about RTS, and if they wanted to play an MMO most people just play one and nothing else on PC . Most people doesn't even care about superior graphics neither, just watch Wii sales.
Gue1
This thread is flame bait waiting to happen, and it's brought up at least twice a week.
[QUOTE="streetridaz"]
[QUOTE="xYamatox"] Hey this thread is doing great until you came in and made that comment. It all starts with post like yours. Lets keep it constructive like everyone has done thus far. Don't post useless stuff post a constructive reply. If your tired of these threads stop reading them. Your obviously not that tired of them if you keep reading them and then posting in them. I'm actually proud of this thread so far. Great points are being made and no one is talking bs right now. I'm trying to understand different mind sets right now not start some "s".
[QUOTE="Gue1"]
Consoles are just better than PC. Period.
You don't have to deal with driver updates, expensive upgrades, consoles are to play on huge TV in the living room and they come with wireless controllers, wi-fi, a pretty straight forward online system with friend list and stuff, it's easier to play with friends online cus all of them have consoles, exclusives games like Uncharted are only on consoles. When friends come to your house you just turn on your console give them a controller and we all can enjoy a multiplayer game in a matter of seconds, you can download demos and games from the store, firmware updates, game updates and installations are automatic and there's never an error that can mess up your registry or make the console run slower... I mean, there are so many things that make the consoles superior to PC gaming that it's just stupid to even argue this fact.
Console are just more convenient than a PC if you're just going to play games. PC are for l33ts and consoles are for everyone else. Mouse and keyboard for FPS is overrated and most people don't even care about RTS, and if they wanted to play an MMO most people just play one and nothing else on PC . Most people doesn't even care about superior graphics neither, just watch Wii sales.
That was pointless. You didn't even read the thread.This thread is flame bait waiting to happen, and it's brought up at least twice a week.
Well when the immature ones come in then will face that but until then this is a good discussion. I know it's flame bait but that just proves who the clueless fanboys are and if people give in to them then that there bad.For me:
1. I don't care about graphics
2. I love the mouse but I hate using the keyboard so I prefer the remote
3. The internet is expensive where I live so I have limited bandwidth and can't really use steam or mods
4. I prefer the games on ps3 and if there is a pc game I am interested in I get it so no problem there
5. I prefer playing in my room and it's not really my pc so I can't move it there
As far as not gaming on PC, could it just be that people want to keep their gaming seperate from their computers? (serious question)
Anyway, I just like the convience of plug and playing my console. I love the Wii interface because there is literally like 3 screens between the interface and launching a game. I just want to launch and play, I dislike going through many screens which is why I love old systems in this regard.
Main reason i prefer consoles... is real life friends. When you have real life friends you hang out with on a regular basis, having the option of local coop is great. Not to mention being able to easily borrow each other's games can save a good amount of money.
Main reason i prefer consoles... is real life friends. When you have real life friends you hang out with on a regular basis, having the option of local coop is great. Not to mention being able to easily borrow each other's games can save a good amount of money.
markinthedark
Great reason, but it works for PC also.
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Main reason i prefer consoles... is real life friends. When you have real life friends you hang out with on a regular basis, having the option of local coop is great. Not to mention being able to easily borrow each other's games can save a good amount of money.
Great reason, but it works for PC also.
That is a good point, while it can be done on pc it is easier and setup better on consoles.Main reason i prefer consoles... is real life friends. When you have real life friends you hang out with on a regular basis, having the option of local coop is great. Not to mention being able to easily borrow each other's games can save a good amount of money.
markinthedark
[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]
Great reason, but it works for PC also.
streetridaz
That is a good point, while it can be done on pc it is easier and setup better on consoles.Main reason i prefer consoles... is real life friends. When you have real life friends you hang out with on a regular basis, having the option of local coop is great. Not to mention being able to easily borrow each other's games can save a good amount of money.
markinthedark
While I love local co-op, I cannot agree with split screen being better than 4 PCs/consoles and 4 screens.
While I love local co-op, I cannot agree with split screen being better than 4 PCs/consoles and 4 screens.
ChubbyGuy40
I cant afford 4 monitors and 4 gaming rigs, and i dont have the space for that kind of setup.... but yes, if i owned my own gaming cafe, i suppose that would be a superior situation.
I can afford 4 controllers though.
While I love local co-op, I cannot agree with split screen being better than 4 PCs/consoles and 4 screens.ChubbyGuy40The original topic included "ease" and "cost" as topics of discussion, in which case consoles clearly come out ahead of PC in the local co-op aspect, which is why it was brought up.
Games are cheaper as well. Not to mention the massive sales that occur through out the year for digital downloads. My buddy just picked up BFBC2 for 6.87 right before Christmas and I got it for 30 bucks at release on a sale from steam. Accessories are cheaper as well. You have such a huge market of companies that make accessories that everything is cheap. Yeah you can get into the really expensive stuff but why unless your really serious about your equipment.streetridaz
Why does it seem like PC users think that only PC games go on sale? I've found plenty of great sales for console games. Shortly after release, I got Splinter Cell Conviction for $5, brand new, at Best Buy. This past fall, I got Mass Effect 2 and Episodes From Liberty City for under $10 each as well. That's not even touching the pre-owned market.
As far as accessories, yeah, you can get cheaper gamepads and what-not, but the cheap ones are just that - cheap. If you want a quality part, the price difference is not that bad.
Split-screen is great when it's available but it's becoming increasingly less common as this generation goes on, whether for technical reasons or pure greed ($120 >>> $60). There are also many games where you can only use split-screen in some modes rather than all of them (Call of Duty: Black Ops story mode comes to mind).
The biggest point you missed is GAMES! PC has a lot of great games but what about (I'm simply naming off popular console games) Halo, Forza, Gran Turismo, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear, Mario, Zelda, Red Dead Redemption, Rock Band, God of War, and so forth?Mrmccormo
You're comparing the libraries of three systems against one system. It doesn't work that way. If you buy a console instead of a PC you only have that one console (unless you buy them all, in which case the PC expense argument goes right out the door); no matter which one console you chose you can only play about a third of the games you mentioned. There are a handful of multi-platform games that are on both the 360 and PS3 not the PC (e.g. Red Dead Redemption), but these are few in number and usually come to the PC soon enough. The overall greater number of PC exclusives easily makes up for this.
[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]While I love local co-op, I cannot agree with split screen being better than 4 PCs/consoles and 4 screens.MrmccormoThe original topic included "ease" and "cost" as topics of discussion, in which case consoles clearly come out ahead of PC in the local co-op aspect, which is why it was brought up. As I've had many huge lan parties in the past that are far superior to co-op or split screen play, the consoles are just more tuned to doing it on one system. I agree that the co-op aspect goes to consoles.
You're comparing the libraries of three systems against one system. It doesn't work that way. If you buy a console instead of a PC you only have that one console (unless you buy them all, in which case the PC expense argument goes right out the door); no matter which one console you chose you can only play about a third of the games you mentioned. There are a handful of multi-platform games that are on both the 360 and PS3 not the PC (e.g. Red Dead Redemption), but these are few in number and usually come to the PC soon enough. The overall greater number of PC exclusives easily makes up for this.garrett_danielsAny one console this generation has worthwhile exclusives to play. And while PC most certainly has a higher number of exclusives, that does not change the fact that I am unable to play the newest Mario, Uncharted, Halo, Forza, etc. etc. etc. on it. If I want to play those games, I have one option: consoles. If I don't enjoy those games, GREAT! Then I can easily skip consoles. However, there are dozens of console-only games that I enjoy, meaning that for me to enjoy my gaming, I own consoles. Simple.
I game mainly on consoles but I have a decent gaming PC as well. I think that honestly the biggest hurdle for most people is point #3 and I can definitely see why.
PCs have so many wildy varied configurations and upgrades that the software won't always agree with everyones hardware. And I'm not talking about upgrading to a better GPU or CPU to get it to run better, I'm talking about optimization and compatibility. I'll give some of my own personal experiences.
-I love atmospheric games and I heard great things about STALKER but for whatever reason my PC just doesn't like it. I don't why, I can run Medal of Honor on high setting and Crysis on high/medium but not with STALKER.
-A few months back my younger brother wanted to play KOTOR so I went ahead and installed the game for him. Upon playing, we got eradic and horrible framerates all over. Odd considering I have a gaming PC right? Well, I looked it up and apparently my drivers were "too new" and I would have to downgrade to drivers from like '06. Yeah...no thanks.
-The best I think was back in '03 when I bought FIFA 2004(?) for my dad to play on the PC. I couldn't get it to run and after I contacted tech support they told me my CPU was too fast! Are you **** kidding me!? :lol:
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