Lets be honest.......PS5's announced roadmap does not come anywhere close to XBOX's

Lets be honest.......XBOX's roadmap is absolutely stacked compared to PS5

• STARFIELD
• ELDER SCROLLS
• AVOWED
• FABLE
• PERFECT DARK

Those alone are 5 AAA blockbusters MS has on its roadmap over the next 3 years. Those are only (some of) the announced games. You know what's missing from that list? HALO, GEARS, and FORZA, all of which are also still coming (two Forza's even).

........I think its clear Playstation's announced roadmap doesnt come close to XBoxes.

Unless you're one of these "4D Chess" theory people who believe Sony is "holding back" and secretly has a ton of blockbuster AAA exclusives in the chamber, I cant possibly see what Sony could announce in the near future that could change that.

I dont even understand why Cows act like a tsunami of bangers is right around the corner for Playstation. Like, who do you guys even expect to develop these games? Outside of SSM and GG, almost all of Sony's other studios have recently come off of big projects. Who on earth do you expect to develop these games you're expecting?

Honestly? I dont even expect Horizon, GOW, or Gran Turismo this year. If we analyze the trends from last gen (specifically with Sony first party studios):

• development costs have increased uniformly accross the board. Sony has spent more money than ever on their games, and all evidence points to that trend continuing to grow.
• Turnaround times for Sony games, across the board, have gotten longer, not shorter. Almost every Playstation studio has lengthened their turnaround times per project.
• Sony's studios have more personel working on each project than at any point in their history. Many Sony studios who used to practice having "multiple AAA teams" at once, now no longer do, and have since consolidated their efforts. Now, they typially have one "big" AAA team, and other smaller ancillary teams who work on smaller scale projects. This includes ND, SSM, GG, and Sucker Punch. The notable exception to this is Insomniac, who has multiple physical locations in different states.

Yet through all of that, Playstation guys seem to believe the opposite of these trends. They believe Sony's studios will quickly squeeze out sequels faster than their last games. Also they'll be next gen and destroy anything on Xbox. Also, they'll come out before all of Xbox's games, which have been in development for years. This makes no sense.

Again, who are you Cows expecting to even develop all these games for you? Naughty Dog? Xbox's entire roadmap will be out before the next mainline ND game touches PS5. (not counting Factions, TLOU2 story DLC, or some smaller scale pet project someone at ND makes). Same with Sucker punch. Same with Bend Studios (lol). I guarantee there are PS fans who think TLOU3 or Ghost of Tsushima 2 will be out before Elder Scrolls.

MS now has 5 blockbuster WRPGs in development. Even excluding Bethesda, XGS now has 3 AAA teams internally, dedicated to making blockbuster WRPGs, including one they built from the ground up. Sony has ZERO, and likely wont for the entire gen. And the only ones left they could possibly buy ALL have closer ties to MS.

The "Xbox has no games" meme is fun to repeat on the internet.......but lets be honest with ourselfs. When the releases start dropping from these 23 studios, Sony is not going to be able to match this output.

Those titles are solid, but will they be released before Star Citizen is completed?

Which of those five games are releasing this year or next year?🤭

Which of those five games have you seen gameplay footage of?🤭

Meanwhile, we have the following in camp Sony

All three coming this year. 😂

Nice list of 2023 and beyond games that will be best on PC.

Yep! Like Uncharted, Horizon and Kena. 😎

Lmao have fun waiting

And yet ... Sony is blowing MS out of the water on sales ... So yeah.

The sales are likely closer than you think. The consoles are still selling out in seconds from every online retailer.

They are entirely coasting on the momentum of the PS4 at this point.

It seems to me like Sony is in a similar situation to the PS3 coming off of the PS2 success where they just stopped trying because of the success of the predecessor. PS4 was so successful that they didn't feel the need to try with the PS5. They seem very lazy this generation so far, not trying hard at all. Lack of features like 1440p support, quick resume, strong backwards compatibility of all PlayStation titles, a service as good or better than Game Pass, slacking on the add-on internal SSD storage options, controller problems, OS problems like prioritizing PS4 game downloads over PS5 game downloads, everything just so sloppy. Also, it seems now that they just don't have enough money to compete with Microsoft. They still haven't punched back from the Zenimax acquisition.

None of those games scream AAA or 90 on Metacritic, and we both know that's what Cows value.

Returnal will be "yellow box" tripe that is only being hyped because its a Playstation exclusive. Yeah, im sure Cows are huge fans of procedurally generated roguelikes with janky TPS bullethell gameplay. Cows would be cooking xbox guys if they were parading around nonsense like this. Let alone, being proud to spend $70 of real human money on that. Its worse than "Gamepass Fodder". Its "Gamepass Fodder" that costs $70.

Cows do not care about Kena, and while Ratchet is an iconic PS character, I'd argue most cows who are adults dont care about Ratchet either. Not a single one of those games is an "ohh my god inject it into my veins" type of game.

On topic, Starfield is rumored to be releasing this year. And except for Elder Scrolls, some of those other games have at least a chance at releasing next year.

Yeah there’s definitely a lot of great stuff in the works at Microsoft that I’m really looking forward to. Really hyped for Halo Infinite and a new Forza Horizon game and hopefully those will come out this year. Really looking forward to Starfield so hoping to see more on that real soon. Some other stuff like Fable and Perfect Dark are still a ways off yet but I’m a patient man and have so much to keep me busy these days anyway. They have a ton of great IP’s to work with and am pretty excited to see what possible cool things they might do with them.

I am not saying that I am interested in paying $70 for any of these games but we can't pretend that Sony has nothing and MS has something especially for this year.

Returnal looks lame but Ratchet and Kena look great. You're just projecting now.

I would probaly wait at least a year until making these threads... at some point yeah MS should theoretically blow Sony out of the water in terms of games, but 2021 is for sure not the year.. I mean only exclusive that is coming 2021 from is ms is halo and let’s be honest, it doesn’t excactly scream AAA blockbuster at this point.. Cows at least have a few decent looking exclusive confirmed for 2021, with the off chance that horizon 2 is also releasing this year aswell...

I prefer the upcoming exclusives that Sony is developing and will definitely be picking up a PS5 after they are available. The Xbox is the better console today because of Gamepass.

I hope Starfield is a 'finished' Star Citizen. This would be huge.

I'll give them credit, they are certainly the best demonstration available of the capability of the hardware, but for instance, you could never end a press conference with any of those games.

Each of the games listed in the OP are all ".......and one more thing" games you close E3 with.

Forza Horizon 5 is actually rumored to have an imminent reveal and release this year too, instead of Forza Motorsport 8.

But yea, Halo looks like trash. You know the ironic thing about that? While I remain a Halo fan, Halo infinite is actually the game I care about the least in MS's upcoming roadmap. Every game in the OP and a few others are all ahead of Halo Infinite in my personal top 10.

One thing the Zenimax acquisition solidified, is the fact that the Xbox brand no longer lives and dies by the success of Halo. I wouldn't even care if they cancelled Halo Infinite and restarted development.

I plan on it. There's always something to play.

@StrongDeadlift: what about now this year or at least next year? How dose the road map look for Xbox

There has never been a great Fable game. It's being made by a studio who only has experience with racing games.

The last Perfect Dark stunk and The Initiative has never made a game before.

Obsidian has yet to prove they can make a heavy hitter that's not based on an existing IP (Fallout, Star Wars, South Park). Outer Worlds was mediocre jank.

After Microsoft's track record of cancelling games (Scalebound), mishandling their own big franchises (Halo 5) and publishing underwhelming games from proven studios (Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Ryse) I don't think you can safely say that anything they publish will end up delivering until we have the proof.

Id say the WRPG, FPS, Immersive sims, and Racing genres all firmly belong to MS right now. So thats 4 genres. All of which occupy massive blind-spots in PlayStation's portfolio.

But you're right. Sony certainly has the Third person, "destraction rock throwing", crouch walking through glowing "stealth grass", marking enimies, contextual neck snapping, and fortress clearing genres covered.

I have been trying forever to get my friends to play the Vermintide games with me and I have given up asking so going it alone and random matchmaking with others or doing solo with AI and I am having a blast. So, Darktide is definitely on my map even more so now.

They own Doom and ID.

Starfield is looking like 2021... and thats really all you need this year to compete with Returnal and mascot games

... the rest on that list have a long way to go.

Starfield is also coming to PC.

hell yeah... cant wait!

Let’s be honest. Anyone who bought a ps5 must be wondering if they made the right choice.

Right out of the box, ps5 has looked like a disaster....literally. It came in what can only be described as egg cartons. Not what you expect a premium console to arrive in, and it’s shipped looking like something from wish.com.

The design? Hoo boy....what where they thinking? Yes, some diehard cows have bravely tried to defend it, but the thing has got more memes flying around than Craig, and that’s saying a lot....and Craig is getting a second chance. Not the ps5 though....it remains the biggest console in history, and the only one that needs a tool to flip it horizontally. And White? Really? No black option at least?

The rushed approach continues with the construction. 5 (Five!) different fans have been sourced to cool the thing....some are quieter than others, all are louder than the xsx. When Sony finally get around to enabling the SSD bay - some SEVEN months after launch - those fans will be forced to spin faster and louder to keep temperatures down due to the third party SSD drive.

Let’s talk about that. The drives have been ready for ages....why haven’t Sony certified any? How did Sony manage to launch the only console in recent history without any way of saving games that are made for that console externally? Who decided to disable even saving game states to an HDD, and put cloud saves behind a paywall? Putting in a smaller SSD than their previous console is bad enough, but having to delete games to make space with no other option but to download them again if needed is a joke.

There’s been issues of ps5 owners buying ps5 games, and watching in bewilderment as their console downloaded the PS4 version instead. No BC beyond PS4, unless you pay for the games again through psnow and even then they’re streamed. The touchpad on the Dualsense has been as useless as the touchpad on the last console so far, and Sony managed to design a joypad with a built in microphone that picks up the haptic feedback that was one of the hyped features....Sony’s solution? Haptics and vibrations are turned down or off when the mic is not muted.

Genius.

All of this wouldn’t be so bad if Xbox owners hadn’t been inundated with good news recently. The xsx launched with premium packaging and a understated design. Near silent, with working external SSDs at launch. Gamepass goes from strength to strength, and now new 3rd party games like Outriders are being included on GP while Ps5 owners get to pay full price. Bethesda launching 20 games onto GP, with improved visuals for many and many more on the way....at no extra cost, unlike some games on ps5 like Spider-Man which will set people back $70 to get the ps5 enhanced version even if they own the PS4 version.

Honestly? I know they’re selling fantastically, but I wonder how many believed the hype but are now looking over at the much greener grass (and console) which just gets better day by day.

Some people get so pissed when other people buy a PS5. It's weird.

Halo Infinite and they said not everything thats coming this year has been announced, so expect Forza Horizon 5 this year, better than 2 kids games and an indie shooter, geez get some higher standards cows.

xbox has a road map.

ps has directions scribbled on the back of a beer mat

HaH

They get pissed because no one is buying an XSX.

@NathanDrakeSwag: And yet its sold out unless you can prove otherwise?

Xbox road maps 🤣

The Cloud will save the xbone. DX12 will save Xbone. Scaleboud will be released. Crackdown 3... nothing needs to be said about this one. Microsoft road maps are as 🤣as Phil's "best lineup in Xbox history" from 2019.

@wandering_halls: Confused. Not pissed.

Or confused about being pissed?

@sealionact: Holy wall of BS!!!

@StrongDeadlift: You were in hiding like all last gen. Couldn't stop you from posting daily during the 360 days though lol. One minute exclusives matter, now they don't. Make up your mind, or are you just here to troll?

Now that is some bottom of the barrel bait. Haven't we spoken about upping your game already?😡

Isn't that what lemmings always do? They troll, get owned with facts and then get on their alts and agree with themselves.

Sounds like you are describing yourself. 😂

Nothing wrong with scraping the bottom of the barrel. What do you think i'll be doing for the next few years to find anything worthwhile on the ps5? The journey needs to begin soemwhere.

@sealionact: no one is going to read all that. I'm sure the gist of it is you can't stop riding MS and think anything Sony is trash despite MS being outsold over 2 to 1. Have fun in Hotel Minority.

No Returnal or Ratchet and Clank?

Ratchet no. Returnal is the kind of games i could see being fun in coop, but as far as i know, it doesn't have any. If that's the case, then there's no way i will spend anywhere near $70USD for it. God dammit i just want to play MH Rise. What i wouldn't give to play the damn thing on pc or ps5....................................

Not much of anything is coming out this year, exclusive or multiplat, for any system. Must be because of the pandemic. Obviously the correct choice here is the console with the best backwards compatibility, because old games are all we are playing this year. Returnal? Kena? Please, we've been gaming long enough to know those are flops.

I would rather have Ratchet and Clank over all 5 of the Xbox ones, but that is just me.