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#1 Pikminmaniac
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I find it quite funny what they nominated

-Fable III

-Fallout New Vegas

-Final Fantasy XIII

-Mass Effect 2

there's like one RPG, IMO, in the whole group: Fallout!

What do you think should have been nominated and what do you think makes an RPG an RPG? It seems this genre of gaming has the most debate surrounding its qualifications

I think that Valkeria Chronicles II, Dragon Quest IX, and Monster Hunter Tri were snubbed

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pretty sure they're all RPGs... but where's dragon quest IX, monster hunter 3 and golden sun?
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#3 padaporra
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ME2 is the best RPG in that list.

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#4 lundy86_4
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Pretty "Meh" list. I guess it's gotta go to a popular title :?

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#5 jasonharris48
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New Vegas is the best one on that list (also the best RPG to come out this year). But IO'm wondering where is Monster Hunter 3? I know DQX and 4 Heroes of the Light wouldn't be on the list though since they're handheld titles.

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#6 AgentApollo
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I find it quite funny what they nominated

-Fable III

-Fallout New Vegas

-Final Fantasy XIII

-Mass Effect 2

there's like one RPG, IMO, in the whole group: Fallout!

What do you think should have been nominated and what do you think makes an RPG an RPG? It seems this genre of gaming has the most debate surrounding its qualifications

I think that Valkeria Chronicles II, Dragon Quest IX, and Monster Hunter Tri were snubbed

Pikminmaniac

Is this argument about RPG's still going on ? -_-

Every game on the list is an "RPG". You develop your character and choose a specific role for the hero in Fable, Shepard in ME2, and the gang in 13.

Oh, and DQ9 should've been nominated. I dont like Monster Hunter (XD) and I havent gotten to play VC 2 (NOOOOOOOOO!)

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#7 Pikminmaniac
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ME2 is the best RPG in that list.

padaporra

What makes it an RPG? To me it's a third person shooter and the first Mass Effect was an RPG (With real leveling up)

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#8 spookykid143
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Fallout New veags should win since itis the only RPG on the list but i like FF13 and ME2 better

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#9 lundy86_4
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What makes it an RPG? To me it's a third person shooter and the first Mass Effect was an RPG (With real leveling up)

Pikminmaniac

It's more of a hybrid of genres. It takes from TPS and RPG's and combines them.

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#10 locopatho
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[QUOTE="padaporra"]

ME2 is the best RPG in that list.

Pikminmaniac

What makes it an RPG? To me it's a third person shooter and the first Mass Effect was an RPG (With real leveling up)

Create character, pick class, get experience, new weapons, dialogue, choices, storyline, characters, etc.
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#11 KillerWabbit23
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It's gonna be Mass Effect.

THe lack of handheld games is explainable by one word:

Mainstream.

Remember, we're talking about America here. Not Japan. Half the "gamers" in our nation wouldn't know wtf DQIX was.

The VGAs aren't about quality, they're about "cool factor".

But I'm still watching them. If only to learn moar about UC3.

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#12 DroidPhysX
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ME2 is the best RPG in that list.

padaporra

So is that how people say Fallout New Vegas?:P

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What about games like Lunar Silver Star Harmony (one of the best JRPGs I played to date) and Ys? And I would say Star Ocean Second Evolution since it's my personal favorite (even though my UMD literally broke, same with the 1st game) but it's too late for it to be nominated. Yep, all of them are for PSP. The one everybody seems to forget about. I know...they're all JRPGs. But that's my favorite kind. I don't want to play a mix of RPG and FPS (I'm looking at you two, FNV and ME2. Maybe Borderlands too). It just doesn't seem right.
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#14 Skittles_McGee
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Sweet, another thread that focuses more on what makes an RPG an RPG rather than how good the games actually are. Priorities, gotta love 'em.
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#15 DroidPhysX
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Sweet, another thread that focuses more on what makes an RPG an RPG rather than how good the games actually are. Priorities, gotta love 'em.Skittles_McGee

Your sig is epic

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Sweet, another thread that focuses more on what makes an RPG an RPG rather than how good the games actually are. Priorities, gotta love 'em.Skittles_McGee
It's amazing how much people care about this crap to argue about 10 pages on what makes it an RPG lol.
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#17 EVOLV3
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Mass Effect 2 isn't an RPG. Pretty good third-person shooter though.

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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Sweet, another thread that focuses more on what makes an RPG an RPG rather than how good the games actually are. Priorities, gotta love 'em.Luxen90
It's amazing how much people care about this crap to argue about 10 pages on what makes it an RPG lol.

And not once will anyone mention how much fun they had with the game. Fun, playing games. Not like that's important or anything.
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pretty sure they're all RPGs... but where's dragon quest IX, monster hunter 3 and golden sun?BrunoBRS
Nintendo systems don't count at Spike.
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#20 Espada12
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Yeah it's BS

Mass effect 2 is a TPS

Fable 3 is action adventure, peter said so himself.

Fallout:NV - RPG

FF13- RPG

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What about games like Lunar Silver Star Harmony (one of the best JRPGs I played to date) and Ys? And I would say Star Ocean Second Evolution since it's my personal favorite (even though my UMD literally broke, same with the 1st game) but it's too late for it to be nominated. Yep, all of them are for PSP. The one everybody seems to forget about. I know...they're all JRPGs. But that's my favorite kind. I don't want to play a mix of RPG and FPS (I'm looking at you two, FNV and ME2. Maybe Borderlands too). It just doesn't seem right.tjoeb123
There not going to nominate any RPG titles on a handheld device especially ports and remakes of older games.

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#22 funsohng
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eh, I don't expect them to know Valkyria Chronicles II anyway
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]pretty sure they're all RPGs... but where's dragon quest IX, monster hunter 3 and golden sun?OreoMilkshake
Nintendo systems don't count at Spike.

stupid me, i forgot :P
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#24 Ace6301
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Fable 3 is on any list? lol. It's not even an RPG for one. Mass Effect 2 is a Third Person Shooter FFXIII I can agree with New Vegas I can agree with.
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#25 SaltyMeatballs
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ME2 - TPS Fable 3 - Action Adventure Fallout NV - FPS FF13 - Interactive Movie
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#26 spawnassasin
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Im a little suprised they didnt put Valkyria Chronicles 2 up ther

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#27 Blixxed
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If Mass Effect 2 is a TPS, New Vegas is a FPS. Mass Effect should win.
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#28 lawlessx
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eh, I don't expect them to know Valkyria Chronicles II anywayfunsohng
no kidding..im sure if they showed that game on screen more than half the people watching would go "huh? what game is that?"
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If Mass Effect 2 is a TPS, New Vegas is a FPS. Mass Effect should win.Blixxed
That's funny considering there are actually RPG elements in New Vegas and elements actually had a influence on my character.

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#30 ActicEdge
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What is there to discuss? Its a crappy nominee list by a crappy industry.

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Im a little suprised they didnt put Valkyria Chronicles 2 up ther

spawnassasin
Really? It's a somewhat obscure PSP game with an Anime art style. Spike is too MANLY (RAWR) to recognize that it even exists. The game could be literally be perfect and I doubt they would recognize it.
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#32 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]

Im a little suprised they didnt put Valkyria Chronicles 2 up ther

Ace6301

Really? It's a somewhat obscure PSP game with an Anime art style. Spike is too MANLY (RAWR) to recognize that it even exists. The game could be literally be perfect and I doubt they would recognize it.

you mean like this?

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Rumour-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Boxart-1.jpg

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[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]

Im a little suprised they didnt put Valkyria Chronicles 2 up ther

Ace6301

Really? It's a somewhat obscure PSP game with an Anime art style. Spike is too MANLY (RAWR) to recognize that it even exists. The game could be literally be perfect and I doubt they would recognize it.

yeah i suppose your right
just saddening is all:(

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[QUOTE="Blixxed"]If Mass Effect 2 is a TPS, New Vegas is a FPS. Mass Effect should win.jasonharris48

That's funny considering there are actually RPG elements in New Vegas and elements actually had a influence on my character.

I can make the same arguement for Mass Effect 2. :)
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#35 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="spawnassasin"]

Im a little suprised they didnt put Valkyria Chronicles 2 up ther

BrunoBRS

Really? It's a somewhat obscure PSP game with an Anime art style. Spike is too MANLY (RAWR) to recognize that it even exists. The game could be literally be perfect and I doubt they would recognize it.

you mean like this?

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Rumour-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Boxart-1.jpg

SMG2 got 100% on GR/Metacritic?

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="spawnassasin"]

Im a little suprised they didnt put Valkyria Chronicles 2 up ther

BrunoBRS

Really? It's a somewhat obscure PSP game with an Anime art style. Spike is too MANLY (RAWR) to recognize that it even exists. The game could be literally be perfect and I doubt they would recognize it.

you mean like this?

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Rumour-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Boxart-1.jpg

whats more manly than a plumber flying a dinosaur that isnt even supposed to fly

its like he harnessed the powers of chuck norris and batman

:P

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#37 Grawse
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I love Mass Effect 2 to pieces, but it doesn't stand a chance against FF13 RPG wise. It's just on another level.

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#38 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="Blixxed"]If Mass Effect 2 is a TPS, New Vegas is a FPS. Mass Effect should win.Blixxed

That's funny considering there are actually RPG elements in New Vegas and elements actually had a influence on my character.

I can make the same arguement for Mass Effect 2. :)

Not really. In New Vegas there are a crap ton of skill checks that occur pretty often. All there is in Mass Effect 2 is Paragon and Renegade actions which you get by talking to people in conversations that happen anyway and generally don't actually change much. In New Vegas there are literally some things you cannot do without certain skills. The same is not true with Mass Effect 2. ME2 is a TPS with minimal RPG elements. I would say ME1 was an RPG with TPS style combat. I say this as a fan of both games.
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="Blixxed"]If Mass Effect 2 is a TPS, New Vegas is a FPS. Mass Effect should win.Blixxed

That's funny considering there are actually RPG elements in New Vegas and elements actually had a influence on my character.

I can make the same arguement for Mass Effect 2. :)

You can but you would be shot down instantly

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#40 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Really? It's a somewhat obscure PSP game with an Anime art style. Spike is too MANLY (RAWR) to recognize that it even exists. The game could be literally be perfect and I doubt they would recognize it.spawnassasin

you mean like this?

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Rumour-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Boxart-1.jpg

whats more manly than a plumber flying a dinosaur that isnt even supposed to fly

its like he harnessed the powers of chuck norris and batman

:P

nintendo should totally make an ad based on this :lol:

@DroidPhysX - well no. it scored a 97. it's on the all time best right behind the first super mario galaxy and GTA IV (lol)

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#41 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Blixxed"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] That's funny considering there are actually RPG elements in New Vegas and elements actually had a influence on my character.

spookykid143

I can make the same arguement for Mass Effect 2. :)

You can but you would be shot down instantly

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#42 GeneralShowzer
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New Vegas is the best RPG on that list.
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="Blixxed"]If Mass Effect 2 is a TPS, New Vegas is a FPS. Mass Effect should win.Blixxed

That's funny considering there are actually RPG elements in New Vegas and elements actually had a influence on my character.

I can make the same arguement for Mass Effect 2. :)

Really? I bet I can shoot down your argument when you try lol.

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#44 BrunoBRS
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I love Mass Effect 2 to pieces, but it doesn't stand a chance against FF13 RPG wise. It's just on another level.

Grawse
what's this? someone complimenting final fantasy XIII? didn't you know you're not allowed to do that on gamespot? :x :P
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#45 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="Blixxed"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] That's funny considering there are actually RPG elements in New Vegas and elements actually had a influence on my character.

jasonharris48

I can make the same arguement for Mass Effect 2. :)

Really?

ME2 can only be played as red/blue. New Vegas you choose skills, traits and perks that influence how you play the game. For example i made a low intelligence character, and people took pity on me for being so stupid. My dialogue choices also didn't make much sense.
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#46 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Grawse"]

I love Mass Effect 2 to pieces, but it doesn't stand a chance against FF13 RPG wise. It's just on another level.

BrunoBRS
what's this? someone complimenting final fantasy XIII? didn't you know you're not allowed to do that on gamespot? :x :P

Watch in like 2 years people will be saying that FFXIII is actually an underrated gem or some such. Who knows with SW.
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#47 jasonharris48
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I love Mass Effect 2 to pieces, but it doesn't stand a chance against FF13 RPG wise. It's just on another level.

Grawse

You do not play too many RPGs I take it. FFXIII was a very shallow RPG experience even compared to ME2 and especially previous FF titles.

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#48 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="Blixxed"] I can make the same arguement for Mass Effect 2. :)GeneralShowzer

Really?

ME2 can only be played as red/blue. New Vegas you choose skills, traits and perks that influence how you play the game. For example i made a low intelligence character, and people took pity on me for being so stupid. My dialogue choices also didn't make much sense.

I know that. I own New Vegas myself. I wanted to see if Blixxed could try to prove me wrong.

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#49 spookykid143
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[QUOTE="Grawse"]

I love Mass Effect 2 to pieces, but it doesn't stand a chance against FF13 RPG wise. It's just on another level.

jasonharris48

You do not play too many RPGs I take it. FFXIII was a very shallow RPG experience even compared to ME2 and especially previous FF titles.

I liked FF13 but as a RPG it is average

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#50 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Grawse"]

I love Mass Effect 2 to pieces, but it doesn't stand a chance against FF13 RPG wise. It's just on another level.

Ace6301
what's this? someone complimenting final fantasy XIII? didn't you know you're not allowed to do that on gamespot? :x :P

Watch in like 2 years people will be saying that FFXIII is actually an underrated gem or some such. Who knows with SW.

so it kinda works like the zelda fanbase? *glares at wind waker, and now twilight princess*