Lets face it , XBOX 360 wont be number 1 this gen

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?InfamousC

Dude your just a fanboy Halo is big but not one of America's important IP's. Those would have to be Madden, Tiger Woods Golf, and The Sims.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]Yes but the strength of your argument is based on the influence of one IP (Halo) rather than two (GTA being available for PS3).DaysAirlines

I'm talking about this christmas.Rashpal

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?DaysAirlines

i do want MS to be number 1 ..why ?? cuz they have the deep pockets to take our industry forward , Nintendo saved us from the videogame crash in 1984 , Sony has removed the image that videogames are just for kids ,now i want to believe that it's MS time to take the torch from sony and see what can the world's biggest corporation do to our industry , however if MS consoles are  not selling well in key regions like japan and europe how can it be number 1 ? ..the 360 will have to dominate sales in north america (the biggest market ) to do it ,and it has not happened yet.

Kakarot00769

Mark my words...Live anywhere will tilt the "power" for good towards the 360...Hermits and lemmings will unite..This might sound weird but Vista will the key for victory for the 360, because cross-platforming will be hugh...Just a prediction, but I believe Valve will jump on board with microsoft to put steam on XBL and then you'll see CS:S cross-platforming with the 360. First you'll see TF2 cross-platforming then CS:S. Call me crazy but it will happen.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.DaysAirlines

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

i do want MS to be number 1 ..why ?? cuz they have the deep pockets to take our industry forward , Nintendo saved us from the videogame crash in 1984 , Sony has removed the image that videogames are just for kids ,now i want to believe that it's MS time to take the torch from sony and see what can the world's biggest corporation do to our industry , however if MS consoles are  not selling well in key regions like japan and europe how can it be number 1 ? ..the 360 will have to dominate sales in north america (the biggest market ) to do it ,and it has not happened yet.

gellis1981

Mark my words...Live anywhere will tilt the "power" for good towards the 360...Hermits and lemmings will unite..This might sound weird but Vista will the key for victory for the 360, because cross-platforming will be hugh...Just a prediction, but I believe Valve will jump on board with microsoft to put steam on XBL and then you'll see CS:S cross-platforming with the 360. First you'll see TF2 cross-platforming then CS:S. Call me crazy but it will happen.

Valve had already said they preferred working with the 360 over the PS3.

[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

i do want MS to be number 1 ..why ?? cuz they have the deep pockets to take our industry forward , Nintendo saved us from the videogame crash in 1984 , Sony has removed the image that videogames are just for kids ,now i want to believe that it's MS time to take the torch from sony and see what can the world's biggest corporation do to our industry , however if MS consoles are  not selling well in key regions like japan and europe how can it be number 1 ? ..the 360 will have to dominate sales in north america (the biggest market ) to do it ,and it has not happened yet.

gellis1981

Mark my words...Live anywhere will tilt the "power" for good towards the 360...Hermits and lemmings will unite..This might sound weird but Vista will the key for victory for the 360, because cross-platforming will be hugh...Just a prediction, but I believe Valve will jump on board with microsoft to put steam on XBL and then you'll see CS:S cross-platforming with the 360. First you'll see TF2 cross-platforming then CS:S. Call me crazy but it will happen.

Dude Live anywhere will not help 360 sales at all.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.DaysAirlines

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.InfamousC

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?DaysAirlines

Then maybe he can explain how Halo 2 sold more tha DMC3, MGS3, and FFXII combined worldwide.  If we just use North America, it's much worse.

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.DaysAirlines

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

[QUOTE="gellis1981"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

i do want MS to be number 1 ..why ?? cuz they have the deep pockets to take our industry forward , Nintendo saved us from the videogame crash in 1984 , Sony has removed the image that videogames are just for kids ,now i want to believe that it's MS time to take the torch from sony and see what can the world's biggest corporation do to our industry , however if MS consoles are  not selling well in key regions like japan and europe how can it be number 1 ? ..the 360 will have to dominate sales in north america (the biggest market ) to do it ,and it has not happened yet.

InfamousC

Mark my words...Live anywhere will tilt the "power" for good towards the 360...Hermits and lemmings will unite..This might sound weird but Vista will the key for victory for the 360, because cross-platforming will be hugh...Just a prediction, but I believe Valve will jump on board with microsoft to put steam on XBL and then you'll see CS:S cross-platforming with the 360. First you'll see TF2 cross-platforming then CS:S. Call me crazy but it will happen.

Dude Live anywhere will not help 360 sales at all.

Why wouldn't it...it's probably the best idea a gaming console mustard up in the last 10 years.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?Yellow_Rose

Then maybe he can explain how Halo 2 sold more tha DMC3, MGS3, and FFXII combined worldwide.  If we just use North America, it's much worse.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?Yellow_Rose

Then maybe he can explain how Halo 2 sold more tha DMC3, MGS3, and FFXII combined worldwide.  If we just use North America, it's much worse.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.Rashpal

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?DaysAirlines

Then maybe he can explain how Halo 2 sold more tha DMC3, MGS3, and FFXII combined worldwide.  If we just use North America, it's much worse.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?Rashpal

Then maybe he can explain how Halo 2 sold more tha DMC3, MGS3, and FFXII combined worldwide.  If we just use North America, it's much worse.

[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]

I'm sorry, but MS is the last of the big 3 that I would want to be the industry leader. The reason I feel this way is because the one company that has the power, resources, and MONEY to have a monopoly over the gaming industry is definitely MS. If MS became the industry leader, do you really think they would just stop there? The answer is HELL NO, and you can see that with their operating systems because there is hardly any competition which only hurts us, the consumer. The same exact thing would happen to the gaming industry. Seriously, MS would either come out with a new system every 3 years or just marginally improve their product because their is no competition which means their is no incentive to innovate or make their product better. And you would have to buy it, or you just give up playing video games. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want any of the big 3 to have a monopoly over the game industry. I just think MS has the biggest possibility of getting one IMO.

Rashpal

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionDaysAirlines

why ?

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.DaysAirlines

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.DaysAirlines

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

By the end of the year this will change.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?InfamousC

Dude your just a fanboy Halo is big but not one of America's important IP's. Those would have to be Madden, Tiger Woods Golf, and The Sims.

http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=&console=&publisher=EA&sort=Total

Be a good little boy and go through this list and tell me if any of the games you mentioned came even close to sell more than Halo on any console.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.InfamousC

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

By the end of the year this will change.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?DaysAirlines

Then maybe he can explain how Halo 2 sold more tha DMC3, MGS3, and FFXII combined worldwide.  If we just use North America, it's much worse.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?Rashpal

Then maybe he can explain how Halo 2 sold more tha DMC3, MGS3, and FFXII combined worldwide.  If we just use North America, it's much worse.

[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.DaysAirlines

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

By the end of the year this will change.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.InfamousC

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

Remember last time a Halo title was available during the holiday season?  Do you remember which console outsold which that holiday season?

I'll give you 5 minutes. ;)

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.Rashpal

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

By the end of the year this will change.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?DaysAirlines

Then maybe he can explain how Halo 2 sold more tha DMC3, MGS3, and FFXII combined worldwide.  If we just use North America, it's much worse.

Don't back up too fast or you might bang you head on that wall.Rashpal

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.DaysAirlines

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

By the end of the year this will change.

[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="gellis1981"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

i do want MS to be number 1 ..why ?? cuz they have the deep pockets to take our industry forward , Nintendo saved us from the videogame crash in 1984 , Sony has removed the image that videogames are just for kids ,now i want to believe that it's MS time to take the torch from sony and see what can the world's biggest corporation do to our industry , however if MS consoles are  not selling well in key regions like japan and europe how can it be number 1 ? ..the 360 will have to dominate sales in north america (the biggest market ) to do it ,and it has not happened yet.

gellis1981

Mark my words...Live anywhere will tilt the "power" for good towards the 360...Hermits and lemmings will unite..This might sound weird but Vista will the key for victory for the 360, because cross-platforming will be hugh...Just a prediction, but I believe Valve will jump on board with microsoft to put steam on XBL and then you'll see CS:S cross-platforming with the 360. First you'll see TF2 cross-platforming then CS:S. Call me crazy but it will happen.

Dude Live anywhere will not help 360 sales at all.

Why wouldn't it...it's probably the best idea a gaming console mustard up in the last 10 years.

First of all because you have to pay for it. People can play these games now for free. I don't seeing people switching over from a free service to a pay to play one. PC gamers are not going to switch over to consoles to play FPS on an inferior platform with inferior control schemes.

[QUOTE="gellis1981"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="gellis1981"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

i do want MS to be number 1 ..why ?? cuz they have the deep pockets to take our industry forward , Nintendo saved us from the videogame crash in 1984 , Sony has removed the image that videogames are just for kids ,now i want to believe that it's MS time to take the torch from sony and see what can the world's biggest corporation do to our industry , however if MS consoles are  not selling well in key regions like japan and europe how can it be number 1 ? ..the 360 will have to dominate sales in north america (the biggest market ) to do it ,and it has not happened yet.

InfamousC

Mark my words...Live anywhere will tilt the "power" for good towards the 360...Hermits and lemmings will unite..This might sound weird but Vista will the key for victory for the 360, because cross-platforming will be hugh...Just a prediction, but I believe Valve will jump on board with microsoft to put steam on XBL and then you'll see CS:S cross-platforming with the 360. First you'll see TF2 cross-platforming then CS:S. Call me crazy but it will happen.

Dude Live anywhere will not help 360 sales at all.

Why wouldn't it...it's probably the best idea a gaming console mustard up in the last 10 years.

First of all because you have to pay for it. People can play these games now for free. I don't seeing people switching over from a free service to a pay to play one. PC gamers are not going to switch over to consoles to play FPS on an inferior platform with inferior control schemes.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"]Don't back up too fast or you might bang you head on that wall.DaysAirlines

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]Don't back up too fast or you might bang you head on that wall.Rashpal

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?Rashpal

Then maybe he can explain how Halo 2 sold more tha DMC3, MGS3, and FFXII combined worldwide.  If we just use North America, it's much worse.

We're talking about games, kid, not consoles.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]I'm talking about this christmas.InfamousC

I honesty would be surprised if it didn't.

By the end of the year this will change.

That's not what he asked you.  Did the PS3 outsell the 360 in Jan or Feb of THIS year?  Yes or No?

Yeah, I know. Funny how you ignored the Japan part and went straight to worldwide figures. Had a leg to stand on there possibly?Rashpal

Well isn't Japan part of the worldwide figures?  Or is it you that need the comfort food that is Japan right now ;)

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionDanm_999

why ?

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]Don't back up too fast or you might bang you head on that wall.DaysAirlines

Boy you have no clue or are deliberately being ignorant. Look at the technology. Look at the price.Rashpal

But I thought "teh infamous Playstation brand" trumps all?

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something.  The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on.  So what system does that benefit most?  The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?Yellow_Rose

Then maybe he can explain how Halo 2 sold more tha DMC3, MGS3, and FFXII combined worldwide.  If we just use North America, it's much worse.

We're talking about games, kid, not consoles.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionkcpp2b

why ?

[QUOTE="Rashpal"] Yeah, I know. Funny how you ignored the Japan part and went straight to worldwide figures. Had a leg to stand on there possibly?Yellow_Rose

Well isn't Japan part of the worldwide figures?  Or is it you that need the comfort food that is Japan right now ;)

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="Rashpal"] Yeah, I know. Funny how you ignored the Japan part and went straight to worldwide figures. Had a leg to stand on there possibly?Rashpal

Well isn't Japan part of the worldwide figures?  Or is it you that need the comfort food that is Japan right now ;)

The 360 is on track to do better than the original xbox there by the middle of fall.  The 360 will get 2 AAA rpgs before the PS3 will get 1.  So who knows what will happen.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]Don't back up too fast or you might bang you head on that wall.Rashpal

i do want MS to be number 1 ..why ?? cuz they have the deep pockets to take our industry forward , Nintendo saved us from the videogame crash in 1984 , Sony has removed the image that videogames are just for kids ,now i want to believe that it's MS time to take the torch from sony and see what can the world's biggest corporation do to our industry , however if MS consoles are  not selling well in key regions like japan and europe how can it be number 1 ? ..the 360 will have to dominate sales in north america (the biggest market ) to do it ,and it has not happened yet.

Kakarot00769

PS3 was out sold by 360 in feb.  Dont worry friend.  With halo3, GTA4 (the better version), madden (also the better verion), and Forza 2.  360 will continue to outsell the big black machine.  Especially in north america.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]Before the PS3 can even think about competing with the 360, it has to first start selling better than the Wii, which it's not doing right now. And you need to remember something. The vast majority of GTA fans could care less what system they play GTA4 on. So what system does that benefit most? The $400 (or less) system, or the $600 system?DaysAirlines