Lets set some things straight about the state of PSP (Lethal Rant)

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#1 Frexie
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Its a sinking ship.

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/05/25/worldwide-psp-releases-for-the-week-of-may-25/

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/05/18/worldwide-psp-releases-for-the-week-of-may-18/

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/05/11/worldwide-psp-releases-for-the-week-of-may-11/

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/05/04/worldwide-psp-releases-for-the-week-of-may-4/

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/04/27/worldwide-psp-releases-for-the-week-of-apr-27/

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/04/20/worldwide-psp-releases-for-the-week-of-apr-20/

Notice anything odd? US and UK PSP owners have gotten almost nothing but trashy multiplats for the past couple of weeks, and its been increasingly worse since 2006.

I keep hearing about people saying PSP's lineup is getting better. As a PSP gamer, im trying to figure what in the world people are talking about. Ive seen only two notable games: GOW CoO, an essentially irrevelant game in the series that can easily be completed in LESS THAN 5 HOURS (not worth the $40 to me), and CC:FF7 is hardly appealing to me considering I havent even played the original.

I don't live in Japan, nor do I think the majority of gamers here do either. So I am not understanding why the PSP fanboys continue to flaunt PSP Hardware sales exclusively in that country, yet it is preforming horribly in your own country and will never end up outselling DS worldwide when this Handheld Gen is over. Yet people for some reason ignore its horrible software sales outside of Japan. If you aren't aware, software sales are what drive a system. To be quite frank, PSP has lost that drive.

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/05/14/psp-hardware-sales-rise-software-sales-stagnate/

You see that? PSP didn't have s single top-selling game in 2007

And with less profits for gaming companies, means they will move on:

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/05/09/sonys-david-reeves-admits-to-psp-drought/

Lets not forget that PSP is an even worse state than PC gaming as far as piracy goes, and SCEA/SCEE for the PSP users really care:|

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/03/09/ridiculous-psp-piracy-numbers/

PSP's plummeting software sales don't have anything to do with piracy, right?:roll: I go to retail stores and keep seeing PSP exposure shrinking while every other booming system (including the PS3/DS) gets more exposure and shelf space. Don't even deny it, everyone else is seeing this too. Its missing games that every other system is getting for none other than the fact that its software sales are bombing.

More and moreso, PSP games have been produced, and are staying Japan exclusive. It continues to be a popular item in Japan, and it will stay that time for a while. Yet, overall it is a universal failure.....aren't these all traits of the Dreamcast?

"Its the games stupid" - A real gamer

PS3 is about to get past this problem, but for the PSP, its just beginning. Sony is too busy marketing mediocre features like Skype and the USB Camera to really understand how bad its lineup is gone to the wasteland. Since I know you are tired of me linking, heres a journey for yourself. Go to Gamestop.com and check out the amount of games coming out for PSP.

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The truth hurts, doesn't it? The vast majority of its upcoming lineup consisting of the trashy Movie Cash-Ins, rehash sports games, and watered-down multiplats....I only saw two notable upcoming games: Hot Shots Open Tee II; pretty much what is truthfully going to be a watered-down version of HSG: Out of Bounds (online, yet no lobbies?:|)

Theres also Secret Agent Clank, which got a pre-release price drop to $30 and SCEA has gone all-out with the promotions, (probably because its going to be PSP's swan song outside of Sony's Homeland). Nonetheless it will sell horribly, and get ported to PS2 just like R&C Size Matters.

So, how can a potential PSP owner look at its upcoming lineup and say theyre going to get their moneys worth with a straight face? Why do people really think it has a bright future? This is even worse than the GC's slim pickings back in 2004.

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#2 Arjdagr8
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you keep telling yourself that while i go enjoy my psp *turns on god of war and plays*
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#3 vicmackey39
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The PSP died right after crisis core was released. Good riddance to bad rubbish

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#4 drufeous
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I thouroughly enjoy my PSP. Linking up with a buddy at work when its slow and playing Madden, Burnout, Monster Hunter and Socom is amazing. Crush is great, Jeane De'Arc is amazing and the Final Fantasy's are sweet. Also God Of War is pure win. You may not like it, but I do. So you can shove your rant in Betty Crockers oven for all I care.
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#5 -GhostMLD-
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I seriously hate the term "sinking ship"

The sales ARE NOT in the negatives. Example: For this week, the PSP sold -2300 units" NO!

I hate sony but even I can say that PSP sales are healthy. DS is 2x the installed base, but that doesnt make PSP a failure, its sales are still healthy.

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#6 FragTycoon
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*gives up and tosses his PSP out the window*

Is that what you want? well it ain't gonna happen :P

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#7 SMR-Venom
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Wow, what dire hatred...

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#8 Lionheart08
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Still some current PSP games I want to buy. Still some future PSP games I want to buy. I guess I'm set.

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#9 GameOverKayo
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I agree with you TC. The PSP is failing so hard these days and I also dont know which one of the newly released or upcoming games are counted as good except for FF CC.
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#10 VoodooHak
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Who cares about sales and how it's doing against the DS? Just play what you want.

And if the games don't appeal to you, then maybe the PSP isn't for you.

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#11 SMR-Venom
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Who cares about sales and how it's doing against the DS? Just play what you want.

And if the games don't appeal to you, then maybe the PSP isn't for you.

VoodooHak

Ding Ding Ding WE HAVE A WINNER!

and on page 1 :O

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#12 limpbizkit818
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I still hope GT Moblie makes it to the PSP.
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#13 bigboss4658
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sure, ill just keep on enjoying mgs portable ops. (kick ass game)
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#14 TAKE_IT_BACK
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I wouldn't say its sinking. Its definetly behind the DS in the recent good games category, but when sony puts out some quality titles like GOW you know the system is doing at least OK.
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#15 Lionheart08
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And Personally, I'd wait til E3 before I'd put the nail in the coffin and say there are no more PSP games worth buying. Me, Personally, I'm still interested in Secret Agent Clank, Birth By Sleep, and Dissdia: Final Fantasy.
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#16 suitmypants
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dont forget patapon and echocrome (for those who dont own a PS3)
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#17 Pandemonium876
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Beating Persephone on God Mode in GoW:COO is like beating Life itself. JK. but really GOW:COO is a really good game. I love my PSP
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#18 thrones
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sure, ill just keep on enjoying mgs portable ops. (kick ass game)bigboss4658

I know! :D It's like the Pokemon of stealth games.

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#20 bigmouthkid
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You're post was too long to read and I got bored right after reading the first paragraph and stopped.
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#21 PBSnipes
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I can't understand the hate-on for the PSP. It certainly isn't the greatest handheld of all time, but that doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile investment. It's got some solid games (Patapon, MGS: PO, Lumines, Jeanne D'Arc and others) and the media player functionality can be great for long trips. The only reason I can think of is you're a DS owner trying to justify your purchase, but I thought the DS gets a new AAA (and I know this because I've counted) every 5 minutes? Shouldn't you be busy playing it?
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#22 thrones
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I can't understand the hate-on for the PSP. It certainly isn't the greatest handheld of all time, but that doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile investment. It's got some solid games (Patapon, MGS: PO, Lumines, Jeanne D'Arc and others) and the media player functionality can be great for long trips. The only reason I can think of is you're a DS owner trying to justify your purchase, but I thought the DS gets a new AAA (and I know this because I've counted) every 5 minutes. Shouldn't you be busy playing it?PBSnipes

I personally think it's the greatest non-Nintendo handheld tbh :P

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#23 Lionheart08
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Star Wars: Force Unleashed, even if it is a multiplat, looks pretty sweet for the PSP as well. I'll definitely be picking it up for the PSP. Maybe Lego Indy as well.
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#24 vicmackey39
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The OP is right, there's basically nothing coming out for the PSP and those few exclusive games it does have are being ported to the PS2

Add to that the fact that it's more expensive than the DS, it has load times, it has a much worse battery life, it has the worst controls of any system currently availible and you can see why someone could be dissapointed with the purchase

If I had a PSP I'd be gutted at what a waste of money it was

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#25 bigboss4658
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[QUOTE="bigboss4658"]sure, ill just keep on enjoying mgs portable ops. (kick ass game)thrones

I know! :D It's like the Pokemon of stealth games.

i hope they make a sequel. im addicted to capturing soldiers and improving my team.

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#26 Frexie
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Who cares about sales and how it's doing against the DS? Just play what you want.

And if the games don't appeal to you, then maybe the PSP isn't for you.

VoodooHak

I think the sales are fairly important, considering less sales for the system -> Less support for the system -> The system becomes obsolete sooner.

The games? I bought my PSP back in 2006 for the games above all else, and I would say ive gotten my moneys worth out of most of the 17 games I own for it. I don't regret buying a PSP over a DS, but I do regret not buying the DS Lite in a more recent time, because it looks a whole lot more appealing to me at the moment, but I won't because I know a new Ninty handheld is in the works. Theres a horrible shortage of good upcoming games and it feels like this redesigned PSP I bought only months ago has become a waste of my money, and it shouldn't be that way.

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I can't understand the hate-on for the PSP. It certainly isn't the greatest handheld of all time, but that doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile investment. It's got some solid games (Patapon, MGS: PO, Lumines, Jeanne D'Arc and others) and the media player functionality can be great for long trips. The only reason I can think of is you're a DS owner trying to justify your purchase, but I thought the DS gets a new AAA (and I know this because I've counted) every 5 minutes? Shouldn't you be busy playing it?PBSnipes

not so regularly, but we do get a great game every month or two...TWEWY is just the latest.

and yeah its failing to us, but it set out to gain a foothold in the handheld market for sony and thats exactly what it did...sony keeps its standered low so they don't get disapointed, like PS3 sucsedded in the scence that it won the format war.

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#28 Lionheart08
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Add to that the fact that it's more expensive than the DS, it has load times, it has a much worse battery life, it has the worst controls of any system currently availible and you can see why someone could be dissapointed with the purchase

If I had a PSP I'd be gutted at what a waste of money it was

vicmackey39

Just by that I can't take you seriously. I've yet to have any problems with the controlls, and I'm just fine with it's library. Honestly I plan to get a DS next month but I doubt I'll get as many DS games as I will for my PSP.

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#29 thrones
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The OP is right, there's basically nothing coming out for the PSP and those few exclusive games it does have are being ported to the PS2

Add to that the fact that it's more expensive than the DS, it has load times, it has a much worse battery life, it has the worst controls of any system currently availible and you can see why someone could be dissapointed with the purchase

If I had a PSP I'd be gutted at what a waste of money it was

vicmackey39

Well, I have a PSP and DS and I play my PSP alot more.

Especially Grand Theft Auto or Metal Gear Solid

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#30 Frexie
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I can't understand the hate-on for the PSP. It certainly isn't the greatest handheld of all time, but that doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile investment. It's got some solid games (Patapon, MGS: PO, Lumines, Jeanne D'Arc and others) and the media player functionality can be great for long trips. The only reason I can think of is you're a DS owner trying to justify your purchase, but I thought the DS gets a new AAA (and I know this because I've counted) every 5 minutes? Shouldn't you be busy playing it?PBSnipes

I happen to own all of the games you brought up. Theyre great, but those standout PSP games is quickly becoming slim-pickings, much what like happened with GC. Players don't buy every game that gets a 80%+ on Gamerankings, we all have prefrences, and we should have more than just two or three fairly-new games thats worth our money buy when we go hunting for a new game.

PS2's has been fighting the system wars in a time thats nearing a decade, and people are moving on the its successors and other Next-Gen systems. I could expect this kind of recession on that system, but not the PSP, which is still a current-gen product and just got a redesign a few months ago. PSP's situation is abmyssal.

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#31 soulfinger
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I have to admit I'm far from impressed by the PSP games line up. I've only currently got 2 games (Tekken and God of War) What I personally love about it is the multi media aspect. I use mine for watch TV shows, surf the net on the move etc. Saying that at the end of the day its a hand held game console and the lack of a wide number of games and good games is damming.
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#32 thrones
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I have to admit I'm far from impressed by the PSP games line up. I've only currently got 2 games (Tekken and God of War) What I personally love about it is the multi media aspect. I use mine for watch TV shows, surf the net on the move etc. Saying that at the end of the day its a hand held game console and the lack of a wide number of games and good games is damming. soulfinger

It has plenty of games :|

Statiscally it has more than the DS, but alot of them are on the PS2 as well..

But you can't drag a PS2 around on a journey can you?

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#33 thrones
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Statiscally:

PSP:

AAA: 2

AA/AAA: 45

A/AA/AAA: 117

DS:

AAA: 3

AA/AAA: 42

A/AA/AAA: 116

Some of the stuff on the PSP may be available on other consoles, but until the PS2 becomes portable and able to take with me...

Yeah.

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#34 AvIdGaMeR444
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The TC said Lethal Rant...yet I see the PSP is still alive...in fact, I see the PSP is selling really well (not as well as DS of course)
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[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

Add to that the fact that it's more expensive than the DS, it has load times, it has a much worse battery life, it has the worst controls of any system currently availible and you can see why someone could be dissapointed with the purchase

If I had a PSP I'd be gutted at what a waste of money it was

Lionheart08

Just by that I can't take you seriously. I've yet to have any problems with the controlls, and I'm just fine with it's library. Honestly I plan to get a DS next month but I doubt I'll get as many DS games as I will for my PSP.

oh dont worry, no one does

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#36 vicmackey39
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Some of the stuff on the PSP may be available on other consoles, but until the PS2 becomes portable and able to take with me...

Yeah.

thrones

not some of the stuff, most of the stuff

and if the best defence you've got of the PSP is that it allows you to play inferior versions of PS2 games on the bus then it can't be that good

and then there's the fact that the PSP is hardly built for portability

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#37 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

Some of the stuff on the PSP may be available on other consoles, but until the PS2 becomes portable and able to take with me...

Yeah.

vicmackey39

not some of the stuff, most of the stuff

and if the best defence you've got of the PSP is that it allows you to play inferior versions of PS2 games on the bus then it can't be that good

and then there's the fact that the PSP is hardly built for portability

thats why it has just as many good games as the ds, and i think anything you can put inyour pocket is built for protability, but what would i know compaired to someone who is obviously very biased or just insecure about something :roll:

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#38 Bloodseeker23
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you keep telling yourself that while i go enjoy my psp *turns on god of war and plays*Arjdagr8

lol same with me. I dont really like getting into "Details" because i bought my psp to enjoy it. Not to research if games we're transfered as reharsh.

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#39 Blazevoir
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I don't carea about sales really. I care about the games. The ds has a lot of rubbish games but some of them, are just great and are enough to feed a hungry gamer. The psp doesn' really have any good games at all

MPO, MPO+,Tekken,CC,CoO,Patapon,LocoRoco. Those would only last a couple months for me. But the ds has alot of great games. Look at the psp's future good games

Dissidia, Birth By Sleep, DMC (Maybe), GT (maybe) and that's about it. Umm. no thanks...

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#40 kingman03
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If you don't own one, why do you care so much if it fails or not.

I own one. I love it. I don't care if it fails. Games will still come out for it no matter what. So far the library of good games on it is good enough for me.

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#41 TAKE_IT_BACK
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"][QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

Add to that the fact that it's more expensive than the DS, it has load times, it has a much worse battery life, it has the worst controls of any system currently availible and you can see why someone could be dissapointed with the purchase

If I had a PSP I'd be gutted at what a waste of money it was

hyperboy152000

Just by that I can't take you seriously. I've yet to have any problems with the controlls, and I'm just fine with it's library. Honestly I plan to get a DS next month but I doubt I'll get as many DS games as I will for my PSP.

oh dont worry, no one does

Yeah he's kind of... crazy

The PSP has plenty of good games, consoles have a lot of load times too, agree about the battery life but... controls?

No, I don't own a PSP, but if i did i could think of quite a few games i would want.

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#43 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

Some of the stuff on the PSP may be available on other consoles, but until the PS2 becomes portable and able to take with me...

Yeah.

vicmackey39

not some of the stuff, most of the stuff

and if the best defence you've got of the PSP is that it allows you to play inferior versions of PS2 games on the bus then it can't be that good

and then there's the fact that the PSP is hardly built for portability

It's less than 2 inches larger than the DS tbh :|

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#44 TAKE_IT_BACK
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Why would you play a fighting on the PSP instead of a console?

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#45 vicmackey39
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Why would you play a fighting on the PSP instead of a console?

TAKE_IT_BACK

PSP has some excellent fighting games

It's less than 2 inches larger than the DS tbh :|

thrones

I wasn't talking about the size (although the DS lite is obviously more compact and can be folded up when not in use).

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#46 thrones
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Why would you play a fighting on the PSP instead of a console?

vicmackey39

PSP has some excellent fighting games

It's less than 2 inches larger than the DS tbh :|

thrones

I wasn't talking about the size (although the DS lite is obviously more compact and can be folded up when not in use).

If you're in an environment where 15 seconds of loadtime will prevent you from playing, frankly, whipping out a handheld and playing it isn't worth the time.

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#47 thrones
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DOUBLE POST:

If anything, the DS is worse what with the fiddly stylus for short burst period plays on the move :|

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#48 CajunShooter
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Go to Gamestop.com and check out the amount of games coming out for PSP.

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Why don't you go to IGN for an actual acurate list of what is coming out. Gamestop maybe only has two dozen while IGN has over 100

http://psp.ign.com/index/release.html
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#49 SSCyborg
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Am I the only want who wants a PSP just to mod it?
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#50 CajunShooter
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Am I the only want who wants a PSP just to mod it?SSCyborg

I had the original and modded it and had a bunch of Emulators on it.

Haven't done anything with my slim