Let's settle this. What looks better: Crysis 3 (pc) or Killzone 4 (ps4)

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#51 killzowned24
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We only have seen a small bit,but it's definitely is a challenger if not on art alone :D

Btw,Killzone is still early and according to a dev at beyond3d ,he hints that until recently the dev kits only had 1.5gb usable for graphics.

http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1712366&postcount=111

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#52 oddballrulez
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Played a few levels of Crysis 3 on PC with a mix of high-very high. Despite the clearly great technical side of the engine, I just really didn't care for it. The detail is ridiculous, don't get me wrong, enjoy the lighting etc. but it just doesn't seem to 'pop'. Saying that though, after playing all the Crysis games, I'm not a fan of the gun mechanics. Just don't find it satisfying. Gun play is one area if nothing else that Killzone definitely trumps it on.
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[QUOTE="campzor"]i love how the light shines through the cloak.

Console players just discovered sun shafts.
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#54 Pray_to_me
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No matter how many DX11 shader effects it has, at its core Crysis 3 is a PS360 game. Even though Crysis 3 will win this poll being bolstered by hermits trying to justify their gaming rigs, I'd be willing to bet that the new Killzone has double the poly count. Guess we'll see when it comes out.   

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#55 Kinthalis
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It's hard to say. 

 

Crysis 3 runs in real time in front me right now. And it looks amazing on a high end PC. Even on a mid-range PC it looks better than anything out on current consoles.

 

Killzone 3 on the other hand is an alpha - meaning they haven't optimized their assets for final production yet, so we probably saw the ultra high resolution assets the artists work with, and not necessarily the end product.  Finally, it was a choreographed tech demo with prototype hardware. Even if it was running in real time, it's still not an accurate look at the final product.

 

Going purely by what we saw, with all of those caveats, I'd say it looks about on par with Crysis 3 on a mid range machine, and not quite as good as Crysis 3 on a high end machine.

 

In other words - just exactly what I would expect, given the specs annoucned.

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#56 Jebus213
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No matter how many DX11 shader effects it has, at its core Crysis 3 is a PS360 game. Even though Crysis 3 will win this poll being bolstered by hermits trying to justify their gaming rigs, I'd be willing to bet that the new Killzone has double the poly count. Guess we'll see when it comes out.   

Pray_to_me
dat poly count: :lol: : http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8366/8493794092_9fd776995c_o.jpg
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#57 Kinthalis
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No matter how many DX11 shader effects it has, at its core Crysis 3 is a PS360 game. Even though Crysis 3 will win this poll being bolstered by hermits trying to justify their gaming rigs, I'd be willing to bet that the new Killzone has double the poly count. Guess we'll see when it comes out.   

Pray_to_me

 

Lighting and physics and texture effects are entirely PC centric on Crysis 3. They don't exist in the rendering pipeline on the old consoles. 

 

Crytek has gone out of it's way saying how both Cryengine 3 and Cryises 3 is gheared toward PC and next generaiton consoles - NOT PS3Xbox.

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#58 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

No matter how many DX11 shader effects it has, at its core Crysis 3 is a PS360 game. Even though Crysis 3 will win this poll being bolstered by hermits trying to justify their gaming rigs, I'd be willing to bet that the new Killzone has double the poly count. Guess we'll see when it comes out.   

Jebus213

dat poly count: :lol: : http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8366/8493794092_9fd776995c_o.jpg

 

I don't think the polygon count is particularly high on that model. 

 

It's that the model using high definition textures, high resolution textures, and those textures feature modern lighting effect.  Stuff that's been happening on PC for a while now, finally being shown on a console.

 

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#59 mitu123
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Crysis 3, but Killzone Shadow Fall looks absolutely great for a console game.

Some screens of C3 for consideration:

 

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Well these screens prove that Crysis 3 wins until Killzone's graphics get better.

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#60 tonitorsi
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The fact that killzone isn't even properly been released yet makes me wonder why we should have this comparison in the first place. freedomfreak

Sh*t, Let alone the console :lol::P

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#61 22Toothpicks
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How can we settle this when the comparison is between a finished product (Crysis 3) and one that is currently in development (KZ4)? Crysis 3 had damn well better look superior at this point...
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#62 Jebus213
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I'm going to laugh so hard when Killzone 4 looks no better on release. If it looks worse then I'll laugh even harder.
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#63 Kinthalis
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Totally different art styles.

The important thing is PS4 hardware should easily be able to run Crysis 3 on highest settings.

BlbecekBobecek

 

I'm not so sure about that.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/crysis_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,7.html

 

A GTX 680 gets almost 50 FPs at 1920x1200 maxing out the game. That's with an i7 CPU.

 

I would guess the PS4 can do High at 30 FPS at 1080p or Very High at 720p 30-40 FPS.

 

Or what msot likely will end up happening when the game is ported ot the PS4 - since consoles dont' have video settings is that they'll turn down soem fo the lighting effects a bit, and run it at 1080p 30 FPS solid, or 720p 60 FPs solid.

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#64 skrat_01
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Crysis 3 is well ahead as far as technical visuals are concerned. However Killzone ShadowGuysWithGuns has a much stronger visual direction.
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#65 PhazonBlazer
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Buncha idiots, Battletoads looks much better than both.

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#66 handssss
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[QUOTE="Wickerman777"]

This seems like a strange comparison to me. Crysis 3 is done already and Killzone is still in development. So you're comparing Crysis at its best to an embryonic stage of Killzone. That it's even being discussed right now is a heck of an achievement for Killzone and PS4.

MBirdy88
Brand new console struggeling to match a currently released game? hardly.

because history shows that console launch games are demonstrative of the full capabilities of the hardware, right?
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#67 quebec946
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killzone isnt event out.

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#68 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Wickerman777"]

This seems like a strange comparison to me. Crysis 3 is done already and Killzone is still in development. So you're comparing Crysis at its best to an embryonic stage of Killzone. That it's even being discussed right now is a heck of an achievement for Killzone and PS4.

handssss
Brand new console struggeling to match a currently released game? hardly.

because history shows that console launch games are demonstrative of the full capabilities of the hardware, right?

Because Sony's first party studio which spends millions and has huge dev teams cannot pump more out of simpler PC architecture intime for a reveal right?
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#69 Link3301
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Crysis 3, it already looks better than the Killzone Shadow Fall tech demo. Once the actual Killzone comes out, it will look worse than its own tech demo considering that its demo is obviously running on pc hardware. Crysis 3 will look significantly better than Killzone Shadow Fall.

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We will have to wait and see crysis on a PS4 so we can compare it to Killzone for the best.
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Don't get me wrong I voted for Crysis 3 too, but the graphics doesn't scream amazing, and I absolutely hate the FOV and the HUD's color .

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I don't give a fuuck. Neon_Noir

... plus both look phenomenal.

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I don't give a fuuck. Neon_Noir

Sweet Jesus. I've encountered some worthless trolls, spammers, bigots and fanboys on Gamespot but none of them were as bad as posters, you redefined what a lamer should aspire to be, explored new grounds of lousy forum posting and brought a new distasteful experience to the screens of gamespot users, you're the next generation lamer.

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fire eblem x   lol @ corridor shooters 

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[QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]I don't give a fuuck. AgentA-Mi6

Sweet Jesus. I've encountered some worthless trolls, spammers, bigots and fanboys on Gamespot but none of them were as bad as posters, you redefined what a lamer should aspire to be, explored new grounds of lousy forum posting and brought a new distasteful experience to the screens of gamespot users, you're the next generation lamer.

I am Neon.
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

[QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]I don't give a fuuck. Neon_Noir

Sweet Jesus. I've encountered some worthless trolls, spammers, bigots and fanboys on Gamespot but none of them were as bad as posters, you redefined what a lamer should aspire to be, explored new grounds of lousy forum posting and brought a new distasteful experience to the screens of gamespot users, you're the next generation lamer.

I am Neon.

You are waltefmoney, byitch.

Correction.

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#77 WiiMan21
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How about we settle this after the PS4 is released?

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#78 deomag4
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Are you guys kidding me?? It's clearly battletoads. At the end of the level when you are throwing rocks at the screen, you can actually see the glass break where the rock hit it. Can't match the graphics in that game

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kzsf looks disappointing enough as it is, but it's more disheartening to think that, going by sony's track record, it'll look even worse upon release. :(

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Raccoon face.
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

kzsf looks disappointing enough as it is, but it's more disheartening to think that, going by sony's track record, it'll look even worse upon release. :(

Uncharted3BeforeAfter.jpg

Why are you posting photoshopped pics for the after? Are you delusional or blind?
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[QUOTE="MstaPrimeMnista"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

kzsf looks disappointing enough as it is, but it's more disheartening to think that, going by sony's track record, it'll look even worse upon release. :(

Uncharted3BeforeAfter.jpg

Why are you posting photoshopped pics for the after? Are you delusional or blind?

Hes a MS fanboy, They have nothing else to back on.
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#83 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Totally different art styles.

The important thing is PS4 hardware should easily be able to run Crysis 3 on highest settings.

Kinthalis

 

I'm not so sure about that.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/crysis_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,7.html

 

A GTX 680 gets almost 50 FPs at 1920x1200 maxing out the game. That's with an i7 CPU.

 

I would guess the PS4 can do High at 30 FPS at 1080p or Very High at 720p 30-40 FPS.

 

Or what msot likely will end up happening when the game is ported ot the PS4 - since consoles dont' have video settings is that they'll turn down soem fo the lighting effects a bit, and run it at 1080p 30 FPS solid, or 720p 60 FPs solid.

Agreed. According to your link Radeon HD 7870 can run it maxed out with FXAA enabled and 1600x1200 @ 35 FPS average. If devs put a bit of effort into it Im sure it will be no problem to make it run 1080p @ 30 FPS fixed with a bit of tweaking of some settings on PS4.

Doesnt that fact happen to make this thread irrelevant?

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Hes a MS fanboy, They have nothing else to back on.WiiMan21

And I'm not even a fanboy as lemmings claim. Apparently lemming logic dictates that "If you disagree with our claims and don't bash Sony, then you're a sony fanboy"WiiMan21

it's interesting that you're quick to get upset when someone calls you a sony fanboy, yet you jump at the chance to call me a "ms fanboy" even though i've never said anything positive about that company. :lol:

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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Totally different art styles.

The important thing is PS4 hardware should easily be able to run Crysis 3 on highest settings.

BlbecekBobecek

 

I'm not so sure about that.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/crysis_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,7.html

 

A GTX 680 gets almost 50 FPs at 1920x1200 maxing out the game. That's with an i7 CPU.

 

I would guess the PS4 can do High at 30 FPS at 1080p or Very High at 720p 30-40 FPS.

 

Or what msot likely will end up happening when the game is ported ot the PS4 - since consoles dont' have video settings is that they'll turn down soem fo the lighting effects a bit, and run it at 1080p 30 FPS solid, or 720p 60 FPs solid.

Agreed. According to your link Radeon HD 7870 can run it maxed out with FXAA enabled and 1600x1200 @ 35 FPS average. If devs put a bit of effort into it Im sure it will be no problem to make it run 1080p @ 30 FPS fixed with a bit of tweaking of some settings on PS4.

Doesnt that fact happen to make this thread irrelevant?

There should be no reason why the PS4 couldnt run Crysis 3 on max settings as long as it stays around 1080p and 30 to 60fps.  

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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

 

I'm not so sure about that.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/crysis_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,7.html

 

A GTX 680 gets almost 50 FPs at 1920x1200 maxing out the game. That's with an i7 CPU.

 

I would guess the PS4 can do High at 30 FPS at 1080p or Very High at 720p 30-40 FPS.

 

Or what msot likely will end up happening when the game is ported ot the PS4 - since consoles dont' have video settings is that they'll turn down soem fo the lighting effects a bit, and run it at 1080p 30 FPS solid, or 720p 60 FPs solid.

AM-Gamer

Agreed. According to your link Radeon HD 7870 can run it maxed out with FXAA enabled and 1600x1200 @ 35 FPS average. If devs put a bit of effort into it Im sure it will be no problem to make it run 1080p @ 30 FPS fixed with a bit of tweaking of some settings on PS4.

Doesnt that fact happen to make this thread irrelevant?

There should be no reason why the PS4 couldnt run Crysis 3 on max settings as long as it stays around 1080p and 30 to 60fps.  

1080p would be suicidal for the PS4 at maxed.
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[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Agreed. According to your link Radeon HD 7870 can run it maxed out with FXAA enabled and 1600x1200 @ 35 FPS average. If devs put a bit of effort into it Im sure it will be no problem to make it run 1080p @ 30 FPS fixed with a bit of tweaking of some settings on PS4.

Doesnt that fact happen to make this thread irrelevant?

faizan_faizan

There should be no reason why the PS4 couldnt run Crysis 3 on max settings as long as it stays around 1080p and 30 to 60fps.  

1080p would be suicidal for the PS4 at maxed.

Agreed, there is no way that the Ps4 couls even Come close to running Crysis 3 at the insane level that some of the Hermits are running it at, there are already rigs that are more powerful than the Ps4.
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There should be no reason why the PS4 couldnt run Crysis 3 on max settings as long as it stays around 1080p and 30 to 60fps.  

AM-Gamer
lol The PS4's graphics should wipe the floor with Crysis 3 especially if optimized for the PS4 hardware. Just wait until later on next gen once devs really start to milk every last drop of power out of that hardware. The 1st generation of games for a new console almost never look anywhere near as good as the later releases.
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#89 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

There should be no reason why the PS4 couldnt run Crysis 3 on max settings as long as it stays around 1080p and 30 to 60fps.  

delta3074
1080p would be suicidal for the PS4 at maxed.

Agreed, there is no way that the Ps4 couls even Come close to running Crysis 3 at the insane level that some of the Hermits are running it at, there are already rigs that are more powerful than the Ps4.

Even though PS4 won't be able to run Crysis 3 1080p Maxed, I can still imagine the day when PS4 will have games that will look better than Crysis 3.
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#90 happyduds77
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kzsf looks disappointing enough as it is, but it's more disheartening to think that, going by sony's track record, it'll look even worse upon release. :(

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#91 Messiahbolical-
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Agreed, there is no way that the Ps4 couls even Come close to running Crysis 3 at the insane level that some of the Hermits are running it at, there are already rigs that are more powerful than the Ps4.delta3074
lol wut? Do you know nothing about hardware optimization? The PS3's specs are already good enough to run C3, and with developers actually optimizing C3 for the PS4's hardware it would run wayyyy better than if someone just threw a gaming rig together with similar specs. On top of that, the PS4 was made specifically for gaming. While PC's on the other hand were made to run the operating system and multitask with programs/processes running in the background, etc. The PS4 has a 2nd built in chip to handle those kinds of OS tasks/processes, leaving more room for the devs to milk even more power out of the main hardware. People are naive to think that the PS4 couldn't max out C3.

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[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

OP votes crysis 3.

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BattleToads. Simply because you are a moron for making this thread.

Agreed.

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#93 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

kzsf looks disappointing enough as it is, but it's more disheartening to think that, going by sony's track record, it'll look even worse upon release. :(

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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

kzsf looks disappointing enough as it is, but it's more disheartening to think that, going by sony's track record, it'll look even worse upon release. :(

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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

kzsf looks disappointing enough as it is, but it's more disheartening to think that, going by sony's track record, it'll look even worse upon release. :(

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Sorry bro, but that's what happens when you actually play the game.

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#96 delta3074
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] 1080p would be suicidal for the PS4 at maxed.

Agreed, there is no way that the Ps4 couls even Come close to running Crysis 3 at the insane level that some of the Hermits are running it at, there are already rigs that are more powerful than the Ps4.

Even though PS4 won't be able to run Crysis 3 1080p Maxed, I can still imagine the day when PS4 will have games that will look better than Crysis 3.

it certainly wil but i think SONY fanboys are expecting to much from a launch title and i have eyes, it's pretty obvious that Crysis 3 looks better than the trailer they showed for the letest Killzone the bonus is that crysis 3 looks amazingly good on the 360 and Ps3 and it's got a Bit of Scale to the levels as well and you get to choose How you engage the enemy, it's freaky how flexible crysis 3 is, the level of control you have over what happens, if you die in crysis 3 you only have yorself to blame,lol I am hoping that Killzone 4 has more scale than the trailer suggested, lots of nice buildings in the trailer, are they all part of the playing area? will the game be flexible about how you engage the enemy? lots of questions, more concerned about the gameplay than the Graphics, Graphics are good enough for me.
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#97 MstaPrimeMnista
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

kzsf looks disappointing enough as it is, but it's more disheartening to think that, going by sony's track record, it'll look even worse upon release. :(

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and heres the real deal starting at 44 mins before the dust kicks up, without photoshop pic, and showing the rest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSBOBymYGBc&feature=youtu.be&t=45m15s
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#98 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"] Agreed, there is no way that the Ps4 couls even Come close to running Crysis 3 at the insane level that some of the Hermits are running it at, there are already rigs that are more powerful than the Ps4.Messiahbolical-

lol wut? Do you know nothing about hardware optimization? The PS3's specs are already good enough to run C3, and with developers actually optimizing C3 for the PS4's hardware it would run wayyyy better than if someone just threw a gaming rig together with similar specs. On top of that, the PS4 was made specifically for gaming. While PC's on the other hand were made to run the operating system and multitask with programs/processes running in the background, etc. The PS4 has a 2nd built in chip to handle those kinds of OS tasks/processes, leaving more room for the devs to milk even more power out of the main hardware. People are naive to think that the PS4 couldn't max out C3.

'Sony states that the PS4s graphics chip, which is derived from existing Radeon technology and integrated into the Jaguar processor die, can push 1.84 TFLOPS. That number puts the power of the GPU roughly on par with a Radeon HD 7850 video card. That may seem disappointing because the Radeon HD 7850 is only a mid-range GPU. Again, careful consideration allows for more optimism. Reviews of the Radeon HD 7850 graphics card have already shown that it can handle most current PC games at 1080p with medium to high detail, which is a huge leap over current-gen consoles.' http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/a-look-inside-the-playstation-4/ Mid range GPU Radeon HD 7850 http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+HD+7850/review If you scroll down to the performance chart you will see that a 7850 falls well short of the Requirement to crysis 3 in max settings (radeon 7970) Crysis 3-Max settings Hi-Performance PC Specifications: Windows Vista, Windows 7 or Windows 8 Latest DirectX 11 graphics card Latest quad core CPU 8GB Memory Example 1 (Nvidia/Intel): NVidia GTX 680 Intel Core i7-2600k Example 2 (AMD): AMD Radeon HD7970 AMD Bulldozer FX4150 http://wccftech.com/crysis-3-system-requirements-pc-detailed-requires-gtx-680-hd-7970-max-settings/
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and heres the real deal starting at 44 mins before the dust kicks up, without photoshop pic, and showing the rest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSBOBymYGBc&feature=youtu.be&t=45m15sMstaPrimeMnista

The inside of the bus didn't look too bad in the beginning while it was under shadow. 

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#100 mitu123
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there are already rigs that are more powerful than the Ps4.delta3074
Like mine.:P