Let's talk about Switch Online and Nintendo's Online division as a whole...

I haven't been happy with it. But oh well.

Yes they do but are being paid by companies that make video games, selling them on PC however is a different story.

In what universe is your logic or that comparison viable? lmfao. It doesn't "take a backseat", it simply doesn't exist at all. You can't even MESSAGE YOUR FRIENDS. How are you trying to spin lazy garbage like that as a good thing? And the servers are garbage. You like that aspect too? You like being charged a subscription fee for subpar service and features?

And wtf does WIndows vs Mac have anything to do with it. That's a huge stretch. On a Mac you at least have the option to install more programs, social apps, online features etc that you want. On the Switch you can't do anything to increase your features or online social abilities. Unless you count the cell phone app but that's the biggest joke I've ever seen. The first time I played Switch Online I downloaded the app and promptly deleted it the next day. Beyond horrible app and nobody even uses it.

@Messiahbolical-:

Its perfectly logical. Sony dashboard looks like a billboard, while Switchs does not. However, occasionally when you wake the Switch up it will remind you of sales or upcoming events. Once you enter the dashboard though, thats the end of it.

I dont mind the lack of messaging. The means to do so is convoluted but it is simply in retaliation against an abundance of a-holes. You mean to tell me you enjoyed listening to all the negative people on psn and xbox live over the years? Wow. Tough guy behind a wall but a btch in real life? You LIKE hearing that in your multiplayer game? What if kids are around? Catch my drift?

This is pretty much how it happened. They wouldn't have charged for PS+ or Xbox Live(and probably Switch online) if everyone refused to pay for it, but players immediately grabbed their wallets and gave them money, so now this is industry standard on consoles.

People control the industry with their wallets, it's just that there are too many sheep. It's how all crappy products keep getting made. If people buy it, companies will just keep putting out the same garbage.

I think he was actually just dissing MACS for being so crappy in his backward kinda way.

@DragonfireXZ95:

It wasnt a mac vs pc comparison. It was a comparison of how the large majority of windows machines ship with unwanted bloatware and trial software. Im aware some companies like Razer do not do this, but the bulk of them do. Macs do not.

If you don't like hearing people in voice chat you simply mute them. It's called optional. Catch my drift? You have the OPTION to actually talk to people? On Switch you don't even get that option, except in Fortnite. Cause for whatever reason Nintendo actually allowed Fortnite to work like every game on the Switch should. You plug in your headset directly into the Switch and it just works, you can talk to people in your party or on your team. So the system is clearly capable of doing it. Nintendo just doesn't want to give you the option to do it.

Apparently they caved in for Epic Games cause they knew all the masses of people and kids with only Switches who love Fortnite would eventually get mad they can't talk to each other and eventually go buy another system so they can. Just goes to show you where Nintendo's priorities are. If it's a huge game by a big name developer that millions upon millions of people play, they'll let companies break the rules and do stuff not normally allowed. Don't wanna miss out on those new customers! But f*ck the fans of their own franchises. They still have to use the garbage app if they want to voice chat with randoms in their game lobbies(and I say that, but lets be real if you go into one of those lobby chats on the phone app all you're going to hear is crickets... I tried it in Mario Kart for a whole multi-hour session and didn't find a single soul to talk to).

I completely reject all of this.

@heirren: If anything I'm an old man telling his son to get off his gameboy and go swimming in the ocean.

Get off your screen and go have a fun beach experience lol

@Star67:

Im sorry, what? I suppose you still arent following. Lol@ calling me a media hog. Couldnt be further from the truth.

@DragonfireXZ95: All I care is about Nintendo's exclusive games and much of my time is playing single player content, no point in me ranting how horrible their online is. Just give me single player games Nintendo, you can keep the online BS.

What am I supposed to do though? I tried protesting it- held out for months after Switch online launched and only played single player and local co-op, hoping the rest of the world would do the same.

But then when they announced a free year of membership if you have Twitch Prime. Which just means you just need Amazon Prime- which I do. So I jumped in.

And honestly I need it- I want to play Tetris 99, Rocket League, Mario Kart, Smash, and most importantly the upcoming Mario Maker 2, online.

So what could we do?

To be fair, all consoles have garbage online compared to PC's.

But this is all academic for me because I rarely play online games; just the occasional round of Left 4 Dead 2 co-op with randoms.

Just do a refresh of Windows when you buy a laptop. Problem solved. it takes all of 20 minutes.

I'd rather be able to do that and actually play some games than not play most of the games made simply because they aren't supported on Mac OS.

@DragonfireXZ95:

I dont put games on my computer.

There are two things at fault here;

1) Japanese corporate culture is notoriously toxic and stifles innovation like an Ocean extinguishing the flame on a single lit match. The place is filled with nothing but yes men and ball washers.

2)Their fanbase are paradoxically subservient to Nintendo's whims and wishes to the point where one has to wonder if these are consumers or donors. Strangely enough they seem to hold other developers to higher standards and even hold unrelated developers accountable for Nintendo's actions.

@Rockman999:

What do the japanese think of the service?

I wouldn't know, I don't keep up with what Japanese gamers like considering the odd ball shit they tend to buy in droves(rapeplay, dating sims where grown men date high school girls lmfao, etc.).

@Rockman999:

My point is there are cultural differences, which leads to different wants and expectations from a home.

I dont want to know how you know that other stuff but not about their games, on a game site. A little inappropriate, no?

I avoid the internet i guess for reasons like that.

Sucks watching my son use his ipad to chat with his friend while they play Splatoon together.