Lettuce be reality, Battlefield 3's will be 8-8.5'd,fanboyism and trolling aside

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#1 StrongDeadlift
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This game is going to flop. Now, I am well aware of what a "flop" means, but seriously guys, the hype needs to be toned down. This game is not getting any higher than an 8.5.

The game literally does NOTHING new, nothing that we havent seen before either in BC2 or in other games (and in alot of ways it is inferior to BC2). Is there anybody here who actually thinks BF3 is going to be GOTY quality? Im not trolling, I am being serious. I do not see this game scoring anyting highert than 8.5 on consoles, and to be honest, I woudnt be supurised to see the same scenario as Medal of Honor (7.5).

Does anybody else see a flop incomming?

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#2 kris9031998
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CoD doesnt either, but it gets a 9 every year...so....
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This game is going to flop. Now, I am well aware of what a "flop" means, but seriously guys, the hype needs to be toned down. This game is not getting any higher than an 8.5.

The game literally does NOTHING new, nothing that we havent seen before either in BC2 or in other games (and in alot of ways it is inferior to BC2). Is there anybody here who actually thinks BF3 is going to be GOTY quality? Im not trolling, I am being serious. I do not see this game scoring anyting highert than 8.5 on consoles, and to be honest, I woudnt be supurised to see the same scenario as Medal of Honor (7.5).

Does anybody else see a flop incomming?

StrongDeadlift

Are you basing this of the beta for consoles?

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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

This game is going to flop. Now, I am well aware of what a "flop" means, but seriously guys, the hype needs to be toned down. This game is not getting any higher than an 8.5.

The game literally does NOTHING new, nothing that we havent seen before either in BC2 or in other games (and in alot of ways it is inferior to BC2). Is there anybody here who actually thinks BF3 is going to be GOTY quality? Im not trolling, I am being serious. I do not see this game scoring anyting highert than 8.5 on consoles, and to be honest, I woudnt be supurised to see the same scenario as Medal of Honor (7.5).

Does anybody else see a flop incomming?

Aboogie5

Are you basing this of the beta for consoles?

Yeah he is even though all reports say that the bugs are gone and the conquest maps are still very open and awesome.

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#5 PatchMaster
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Game will be great regardless. As long as MW3 doesn't score higher I'll be content.

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#6 Lto_thaG
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So,we have this in the bf3 thread and here?

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I don't think it will be GOTY. It's just a shooter, a damn good one though, but really it doesn't seem like a big improvement for the genre like something like Skyrim.

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#8 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

This game is going to flop. Now, I am well aware of what a "flop" means, but seriously guys, the hype needs to be toned down. This game is not getting any higher than an 8.5.

The game literally does NOTHING new, nothing that we havent seen before either in BC2 or in other games (and in alot of ways it is inferior to BC2). Is there anybody here who actually thinks BF3 is going to be GOTY quality? Im not trolling, I am being serious. I do not see this game scoring anyting highert than 8.5 on consoles, and to be honest, I woudnt be supurised to see the same scenario as Medal of Honor (7.5).

Does anybody else see a flop incomming?

Aboogie5

Are you basing this of the beta for consoles?

If I say yes, are you going to argue with me, that the full game is going to be different than the beta? I am not basing this off of some bugs and glitches, I am basing it off the overall core gameplay of the game. The game is inferior to Bad Company (and just on par at best) so at best it is going to be just more of the same.
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#9 KC_Hokie
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On consoles I think it will flop.
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#10 mems_1224
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i just hope operation metro is an exception and that all the other maps are gonna be big and filled with vehicles like a BF game is supposed to be
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#11 millerlight89
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I couldn't careless about the console versions, you may be right. The PC version, with 64 player conquest.....get outta here.
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Console versions could get 8 or 8.5, but I'm quite certain that PC version will get at least 9. I got that feeling from Beta.

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#13 lawlessx
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I'm sure the game will flop..on the consoles. You've only played one(or two) maps in an unfinished build..give the game a chance and stop riding on the failure of the beta
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#14 ChubbyGuy40
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PC version has a guarenteed 9-9.5. Not sure about the consoles but they won't score the same.

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#15 Pug-Nasty
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The bugs aren't gone from the conquest map. Some of them are, to be sure, but not all. The controls still lock up, which is absolutely horrible for an online MP game. The netcode still needs a lot of work. The map geometry is also not anywhere near perfect. A handful of maps isn't excusable, especially when the maps you get aren't even polished.

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#16 LustForSoul
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I believe it's going to be 8.5 too. It will have a good multiplayer but the campaign will suck bigtime, like BC and BC2. It will lower the score of the game.
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#17 Kickinurass
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For some reason I doubt it'll flop. Would be entertaining if it did though. MW3 would be also be pretty fun, though to a lesser extent since everyone on this board pretty much hates CoD already.

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#18 Timstuff
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I actually wouldn't be surprised. And frankly, I don't really care what kind of score it gets because I am tired of everyone trying to copy Modern Warfare. I'm getting very bored of military FPS, and Battlefield 3 doesn't look like it's going to break the mold. If MW3 is not enough to get me excited to wade through rubble trying to shoot at the bad men with funny accents, then I don't see why BF3 will be. They should go back to the 2142 version, because that was actually interesting.
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#19 crimsonman1245
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How is 8.5 a flop? They describe that score as "Great" dont they?

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#20 i5750at4Ghz
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I can see it scoring an 8.5 if the single player isn't very good.
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#21 ShadowDeathX
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It is pushing the 360 hardware and the PS3 hardware, in addition pushing PC hardware forward.

I'll admit that it doesn't introduce nothing new, but I really don't care if it does. Battlefield has been amazing each game.This one is just with the scope of Battlefield 2 with some improved tech from Bad Company 2. Is that enough for me? Yes!

Multi-player is amazing thus far from Caspian Border experience. Operation Metro is fun as well. Single-player is highly improved over previous Battlefield games and I'm not sure about the coop.

If it is not broken, don't try to fix it. None of the Battlefield games are bad or even meh at all. The worse game, IMO, was prob. Bad Company 1, but that was still a good game. Moderate changes and improvements are better then radical changes that will make current fans mad.

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#22 SHATT3R3D-GLASS
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I am not sure about the PC version, but the guys I talked to, said the console version (360) had worse graphics than MW2 and played like ****.

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I am not sure about the PC version, but the guys I talked to, said the console version (360) had worse graphics than MW2 and played like ****.

SHATT3R3D-GLASS

Graphics are much better in the final version. Already confirmed through DICE and new footage released.

Played like ****? It has arguably the best controls of any FPS.

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#24 Qwark-PS-Snake
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How is 8.5 a flop? They describe that score as "Great" dont they?

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A game that gets 9.9 can be a flop if it's hyped AAAA. Anyway the console beta's worse than BFBC2 so I don't see it doing well. Not sure about the PC version though
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I am not sure about the PC version, but the guys I talked to, said the console version (360) had worse graphics than MW2 and played like ****.

SHATT3R3D-GLASS
It was a significant step back. No sugar coating that. DICE claims everything is fixed, daisies and lollipops....but now I need a demo to believe it.
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#26 firefluff3
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I agree. I am almost certain it'll get an 8.5, this'll probably get blown back in my face though :P

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#27 ShadowDeathX
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[QUOTE="SHATT3R3D-GLASS"]

I am not sure about the PC version, but the guys I talked to, said the console version (360) had worse graphics than MW2 and played like ****.

ChubbyGuy40

Graphics are much better in the final version. Already confirmed through DICE and new footage released.

Played like ****? It has arguably the best controls of any FPS.

I'll agree. I played the Beta on my 360 and PS3 and the controls were pretty good. I normally feel like a robo when I play on my PC a lot and then switch to consoles, but with BF3 it was super easy and fast to readjust.
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#28 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="Aboogie5"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

This game is going to flop. Now, I am well aware of what a "flop" means, but seriously guys, the hype needs to be toned down. This game is not getting any higher than an 8.5.

The game literally does NOTHING new, nothing that we havent seen before either in BC2 or in other games (and in alot of ways it is inferior to BC2). Is there anybody here who actually thinks BF3 is going to be GOTY quality? Im not trolling, I am being serious. I do not see this game scoring anyting highert than 8.5 on consoles, and to be honest, I woudnt be supurised to see the same scenario as Medal of Honor (7.5).

Does anybody else see a flop incomming?

StrongDeadlift

Are you basing this of the beta for consoles?

If I say yes, are you going to argue with me, that the full game is going to be different than the beta? I am not basing this off of some bugs and glitches, I am basing it off the overall core gameplay of the game. The game is inferior to Bad Company (and just on par at best) so at best it is going to be just more of the same.

the game will be different than the beta, every bf game had a beta, and they were substantially different from the final product
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#29 lightleggy
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How is 8.5 a flop? They describe that score as "Great" dont they?

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we have explained the meaning of flop to you 1000 times, and you still dont get it, thats not our fault.
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#30 DerpyMcDerp
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Yep, played the beta a couple days ago. This game is a TURRIBLE buggy mess. EA would have to be really arrogant to release a garbage game like this with so many problems. And Call of Duty is still more fun.

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#31 el3m2tigre
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i expect at least a 9 on PC/PS3/360. The gameplay is better than any other FPS out there imo.

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#32 KevinPlanet
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I agree. If they don't clean up the graphics after the beta on consoles then it may be a tad bit difficult compared to the PC version. I know PC elitists like to harp on about graphics for these multiplatform games but in this case its wayyyyyyyy better looking on PC. Seeing another player aim at you with the laser or the flashlight is awesome but on 360 & PS3 it looks like garbage.

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I predict the game will score the same on both consoles and PC.
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#34 ShadowDeathX
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I predict the game will score the same on both consoles and PC. ActionRemix
and it should. You can't judge the console version with the PC version. Both versions are giving what they can pump out with their hardware.
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#35 fabz_95
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It's no longer the 100% AAA like I thought it would be but there's a good chance it will be, 8.5 is a possibility though.
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#36 SHATT3R3D-GLASS
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It's no longer the 100% AAA like I thought it would be but there's a good chance it will be, 8.5 is a possibility though.fabz_95

As I personally see it, 8.5 would be an acceptable score for BF3.

Not a bad game of the FPS genre at all, but it simply does not live up to Call of Duty quality.

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#37 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]I predict the game will score the same on both consoles and PC. ShadowDeathX
and it should. You can't judge the console version with the PC version. Both versions are giving what they can pump out with their hardware.

64 players and uber next gen graphics = better score bro!

/deal with it. :P

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#38 Plamino
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I'm looking forward to this game, but it will be lucky to be nominated this year. It's been the best year ever for gaming in my opinion, so it's going to have some rough competition.
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#39 brucecambell
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NO its not going to be a flop. Its not going to be GOTY material as pure shooters are never GOTY material

Its score is meaningless. Games are judged & reviewed based on their single player. The multiplayer will be the best MP experience since BC2 but even better. The final score does not represent the MP & lets be honest . . . . BF is a MP game.

You could have the best MP design out there but attach it to amediocre single player & you can be surethe scores will be horrendous. The only reason cod gets good score every year is always because of the campaign.

If your paying attention to the score for BF, your attention is in the wrong place.

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[QUOTE="fabz_95"]It's no longer the 100% AAA like I thought it would be but there's a good chance it will be, 8.5 is a possibility though.SHATT3R3D-GLASS

As I personally see it, 8.5 would be an acceptable score for BF3.

Not a bad game of the FPS genre at all, but it simply does not live up to Call of Duty quality.

If BF3 and MW3 are anything like their previous iterations, 8.5 is too high for either. If MW3 doesn't have dedicated servers, it should get no higher than a 6.

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#41 SHATT3R3D-GLASS
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[QUOTE="SHATT3R3D-GLASS"]

[QUOTE="fabz_95"]It's no longer the 100% AAA like I thought it would be but there's a good chance it will be, 8.5 is a possibility though.Pug-Nasty

As I personally see it, 8.5 would be an acceptable score for BF3.

Not a bad game of the FPS genre at all, but it simply does not live up to Call of Duty quality.

If BF3 and MW3 are anything like their previous iterations, 8.5 is too high for either. If MW3 doesn't have dedicated servers, it should get no higher than a 6.

MW3 has dedicated servers on the PC. And as IW claimed: 'when 30 million people are playing your game, P2P is the best solution' (for consoles).

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#42 ChubbyGuy40
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MW3 has dedicated servers on the PC. And as IW claimed: 'when 30 million people are playing your game, P2P is the best solution' (for consoles).

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lulz, 30 million. P2P is never the best solution.

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#43 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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8.5 = FLOP?? Wow, games are sure getting scored harder and harder. I think the TC hasnt had a chance to play Caspian Border yet. I was just playing a few games and I am absolutely blown away by the sheer scale of this map. I simply cannot imagine this map even being on consoles. The are going to have to make it about 1/3 of its current size. I absolutely suck with online FPS on PC and I am 98% sure that I will get BF3 for PC as it will be the definitive version and it will force me to get better with the M/KB!

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#44 SHATT3R3D-GLASS
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[QUOTE="SHATT3R3D-GLASS"]

MW3 has dedicated servers on the PC. And as IW claimed: 'when 30 million people are playing your game, P2P is the best solution' (for consoles).

ChubbyGuy40

lulz, 30 million. P2P is never the best solution.

That is supposed to mean anything?

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#45 StrongDeadlift
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8.5 = FLOP?? Wow, games are sure getting scored harder and harder. I think the TC hasnt had a chance to play Caspian Border yet. I was just playing a few games and I am absolutely blown away by the sheer scale of this map. I simply cannot imagine this map even being on consoles. The are going to have to make it about 1/3 of its current size. I absolutely suck with online FPS on PC and I am 98% sure that I will get BF3 for PC as it will be the definitive version and it will force me to get better with the M/KB!

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A flop is determined by the games current hype. The games current hype is AAA (and GOTY by its fanboys).
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#46 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]

8.5 = FLOP?? Wow, games are sure getting scored harder and harder. I think the TC hasnt had a chance to play Caspian Border yet. I was just playing a few games and I am absolutely blown away by the sheer scale of this map. I simply cannot imagine this map even being on consoles. The are going to have to make it about 1/3 of its current size. I absolutely suck with online FPS on PC and I am 98% sure that I will get BF3 for PC as it will be the definitive version and it will force me to get better with the M/KB!

StrongDeadlift

A flop is determined by the games current hype. The games current hype is AAA (and GOTY by its fanboys).

I dont know about the series fanboys, but I never, ever saw this game as getting higher than a 9 simply because as with BC1 and BC2, the Campaign is basically tacked on and meaningless. BF2 never had a true campaign, so anything in BF3 is bonus to the fanbase. I predicted a 8.5 here at GS for BF3 and I dont see that as a flop.

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#47 skrat_01
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Who cares f it does or doesn't? It'a new Battlefield game, and there hasn't been a proper sequel to 2005's magnificent BF2 yet. The closest comparison drawn is COD, and well, that speaks for itself in terms of recycled content doesn't it.
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#48 lulmont
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I've played the beta on console and PC and even had the Alpha for PC. My guess is 9-9.5 on PC, and 8.5 on 360/PS3. They both may have the same name but the game feels almost completely different on PC compared to Console.

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#49 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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I predict around 9.0 on PC, and likely 8.5 on console, which basicly makes it live up to the hype, yes?

Ive had alot of fun with the beta, if the bugs are gone as they claimm, then there is very little this game could improve on. Heck I play the beta on fairly low settings due to my old system, but that this old heap of junk can still pull an average of 32 fps with the graphics I see? Then this is likely the best looking game Ive ever seen.

Now here is the strange part, I tryied the Beta on PS3 aswell, and I was somewhat underwhelmed, there is just something off which I can not explain. and it really aint very pretty.

Ofcourse in both cases I have not seen the game like it will end up looking when its done (and my new PC comes through the frontdoor).

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Member since 2004 • 27442 Posts

If cod can get a 9 BF3 should be able to.