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#51 Lethalhazard
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Yea but calling someone talentless hacks cause you dont like the game seems a bit much. I mean I dont call nintendo talentless hacks cause I dont like mario galaxy.

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I don't call them talentless hacks because I don't like Uncharted. I call them talentless hacks because they created and incredibly generic franchise that gets praise for blatantly stealing from film.

If the game was a broken mess you might have something there. The fact they take insperation from indiana jones doesint make them talentless.

UC1 and UC3 are a broken mess, ridden with bugs or poor controls. UC2 was a fluke in ND's development.
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#52 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I don't call them talentless hacks because I don't like Uncharted. I call them talentless hacks because they created and incredibly generic franchise that gets praise for blatantly stealing from film.Lethalhazard

If the game was a broken mess you might have something there. The fact they take insperation from indiana jones doesint make them talentless.

UC1 and UC3 are a broken mess, ridden with bugs or poor controls. UC2 was a fluke in ND's development.

:roll: yea didint run into these "poor controls" or "bugs" you speak of in UC1. If these were as serious as you say you would hear more about this in other opinoins.

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#53 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Says the guy with the Uncharted avatar. :lol: No bias there!DarkLink77

Yea but calling someone talentless hacks cause you dont like the game seems a bit much. I mean I dont call nintendo talentless hacks cause I dont like mario galaxy.

I don't call them talentless hacks because I don't like Uncharted. I call them talentless hacks because they created and incredibly generic franchise that gets praise for blatantly stealing from film.

Uncharted 3 is well designed and calling it generic is like implying there are many game out there like it. Sure it steals a lot of ideas, but almost everything is a stolen idea in some shape or form. It just depends on how common it is. IDK about you, but I can't think of any Indiana Jones-esque movie released even within the last 10 years, let alone game. Sure Uncharted 3 is glitchy and not paced that well, but the gameplay is solid and fun, especially when compared to previous Uncharted games. I can't think of any game that blends shooting, stealth, melee, puzzles or platforming in the same way that Uncharted 3 does. In fact, the puzzles in U3 actually felt quite original (they weren't, but they felt fresh) and were a huge improvement over past games. A game sometimes doesn't need a new idea, but just needs to blend everything well in a way that feels different. I'm not saying Uncharted is necessarily fresh, how many games now-a-days are? I'm just saying it's not generic. Far from it in fact.

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#54 sethman410
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Gosh,I just want another Jak game.

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And... aint jak 3rd person action game? Why do people asssume its uncharted? Such a stupid prediction. Why? Because most of their games are 3rd person action games, like Crash and Jak. Lawl.
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#55 SW__Troll
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Another 8 hour long "cinematic experience" I imagine? I'll definitely pass. I'll buy it if it's an actual game though.
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#56 Ultrabeatdown55
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

*sigh*

Do something else, you talentless hacks.

DarkLink77
Trying way to hard right here.

Says the guy with the Uncharted avatar. :lol: No bias there!

There isn't. I change my avy/sig according to big game releases. Even if I hated Uncharted, you can't call Naughty Dog talentless.
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#57 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

*sigh*

Do something else, you talentless hacks.

DarkLink77

Trying way to hard right here.

Says the guy with the Uncharted avatar. :lol: No bias there!

there is a difference between being biased and being unreasonable biased. And no I am not basing this on this one uc3 thread.

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#58 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]Trying way to hard right here.Diviniuz
Says the guy with the Uncharted avatar. :lol: No bias there!

no more biased than you are

Biased? Against what?
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#59 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Says the guy with the Uncharted avatar. :lol: No bias there!DarkLink77
no more biased than you are

Biased? Against what?

sony in general. You can troll their franchises like no tomorrow, but when someone mentions something about lets say halo, you get super sensitive. (I am not in any means putting down halo or bungie, they are amazing, i am just using this as an example)

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#60 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]Trying way to hard right here.Ultrabeatdown55
Says the guy with the Uncharted avatar. :lol: No bias there!

There isn't. I change my avy/sig according to big game releases. Even if I hated Uncharted, you can't call Naughty Dog talentless.

Sure I can.
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#61 CasualMike
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Hopefully a new Jak game? Or a new IP? A fantasy type action game not based off of Nathan Drake. I don't want to have my hand held for 8 hours, I want to play a video game. You were pretty good at making those before, Naughty Dog
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#62 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Diviniuz"] no more biased than you areDiviniuz

Biased? Against what?

sony in general. You can troll their franchises like no tomorrow, but when someone mentions something about lets say halo, you get super sensitive.

Which is why some of my favorite franchises are Jak, and, Spyro, and God of War, and Twisted Metal. :roll: Try again. I defend what I feel needs to be defended.
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#63 finalstar2007
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Fix the aiming in the sequel and ask sony to give you more time. it better as epic an UC2.TheGuardian03

Whats wrong with the aiming? i think its much better than the past games and so much faster.

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#64 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Biased? Against what?DarkLink77

sony in general. You can troll their franchises like no tomorrow, but when someone mentions something about lets say halo, you get super sensitive.

Which is why some of my favorite franchises are Jak, and, Spyro, and God of War, and Twisted Metal. :roll: Try again. I defend what I feel needs to be defended.

Then how can naughty dog be talentless hacks when they made one of your favorite franchises? The studio heads, the developers, and the core team hasn't changed at all, they just expanded.

I am just stating my observations of you love trashing and trolling games but then when game "X "gets trashed its a completely different story, then those guys are completely unreasonable.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Diviniuz"] sony in general. You can troll their franchises like no tomorrow, but when someone mentions something about lets say halo, you get super sensitive.

Diviniuz

Which is why some of my favorite franchises are Jak, and, Spyro, and God of War, and Twisted Metal. :roll: Try again. I defend what I feel needs to be defended.

Then how can naughty dog be talentless hacks when they made one of your favorite franchises? The studio heads, the developers, and the core team hasn't changed at all, they just expanded I am just stating my observations of you love trashing and trolling games but then when X gets trashed its a completely different story, then those guys are unreasonable.

founder left. Amy Henning tho has been there for awhile.She is basicaly the back bone of ND

Funny enough the joke is Amy Henning is the mother of Playstation.

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#66 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Diviniuz"] sony in general. You can troll their franchises like no tomorrow, but when someone mentions something about lets say halo, you get super sensitive.

Diviniuz

Which is why some of my favorite franchises are Jak, and, Spyro, and God of War, and Twisted Metal. :roll: Try again. I defend what I feel needs to be defended.

Then how can naughty dog be talentless hacks when they made one of your favorite franchises? The studio heads, the developers, and the core team hasn't changed at all, they just expanded I am just stating my observations of you love trashing and trolling games but then when X gets trashed its a completely different story, then those guys are unreasonable.

Actually, the founders and a lot of the original Dogs that made Jak and Crash left, which is why Uncharted is so different.

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#67 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Which is why some of my favorite franchises are Jak, and, Spyro, and God of War, and Twisted Metal. :roll: Try again. I defend what I feel needs to be defended.eboyishere

Then how can naughty dog be talentless hacks when they made one of your favorite franchises? The studio heads, the developers, and the core team hasn't changed at all, they just expanded I am just stating my observations of you love trashing and trolling games but then when X gets trashed its a completely different story, then those guys are unreasonable.

founder left. Amy Henning tho has been there for awhile.She is basicaly the back bone of ND

Funny enough the joke is Amy Henning is the mother of Playstation.

Andy and Jason left to start their social gaming and I think mobile gaming studio. Amy whose been there throughout the Jax franchise is still there, and the main development team that worked on Jax is still there with UC. I remember watching an interview on Amy for I think UC2 who talked about the team's progression thru Jax and then UC. She is the man (ha). But the same people are still around with a different creative director and producer and a new staff force being hired (at that time idk about now).

What I want to know is what the heck are they doing with all the new employee force they hired.

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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Which is why some of my favorite franchises are Jak, and, Spyro, and God of War, and Twisted Metal. :roll: Try again. I defend what I feel needs to be defended.DarkLink77

Then how can naughty dog be talentless hacks when they made one of your favorite franchises? The studio heads, the developers, and the core team hasn't changed at all, they just expanded I am just stating my observations of you love trashing and trolling games but then when X gets trashed its a completely different story, then those guys are unreasonable.

Actually, the founders and a lot of the original Dogs that made Jak and Crash left, which is why Uncharted is so different.

I consider it growing pains. I dont know if the first ideas of UC would have really taken off like it is now.

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#69 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"] Then how can naughty dog be talentless hacks when they made one of your favorite franchises? The studio heads, the developers, and the core team hasn't changed at all, they just expanded I am just stating my observations of you love trashing and trolling games but then when X gets trashed its a completely different story, then those guys are unreasonable. Diviniuz

founder left. Amy Henning tho has been there for awhile.She is basicaly the back bone of ND

Funny enough the joke is Amy Henning is the mother of Playstation.

Andy and Jason left to start their social gaming and I think mobile gaming studio. Amy whose been there throughout the Jax franchise is still there, and the main development team that worked on Jax is still there with UC. What I want to know is what the heck are they doing with the other half of the new employee force they hired.

Amy wasn't really important until Jak 3, though, so I don't really consider an "original" Dog. Fact is, most of the original team members left, and it really shows. They're doing an entirely different thing now.

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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"] Then how can naughty dog be talentless hacks when they made one of your favorite franchises? The studio heads, the developers, and the core team hasn't changed at all, they just expanded I am just stating my observations of you love trashing and trolling games but then when X gets trashed its a completely different story, then those guys are unreasonable. Diviniuz

founder left. Amy Henning tho has been there for awhile.She is basicaly the back bone of ND

Funny enough the joke is Amy Henning is the mother of Playstation.

Andy and Jason left to start their social gaming and I think mobile gaming studio. Amy whose been there throughout the Jax franchise is still there, and the main development team that worked on Jax is still there with UC. What I want to know is what the heck are they doing with the other half of the new employee force they hired.

Working on next gen probably.

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#71 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]

founder left. Amy Henning tho has been there for awhile.She is basicaly the back bone of ND

Funny enough the joke is Amy Henning is the mother of Playstation.

DarkLink77

Andy and Jason left to start their social gaming and I think mobile gaming studio. Amy whose been there throughout the Jax franchise is still there, and the main development team that worked on Jax is still there with UC. What I want to know is what the heck are they doing with the other half of the new employee force they hired.

Amy wasn't really important until Jak 3, though, so I don't really consider an "original" Dog. Fact is, most of the original team members left, and it really shows. They're doing an entirely different thing now.

Where did you hear about most of the original team leaving? I know the founders left.
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#72 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]Andy and Jason left to start their social gaming and I think mobile gaming studio. Amy whose been there throughout the Jax franchise is still there, and the main development team that worked on Jax is still there with UC. What I want to know is what the heck are they doing with the other half of the new employee force they hired. Diviniuz

Amy wasn't really important until Jak 3, though, so I don't really consider an "original" Dog. Fact is, most of the original team members left, and it really shows. They're doing an entirely different thing now.

Where did you hear about most of the original team leaving? I know the founders left.

It was on either Andy or Jason's blog. They had some ex-ND guys talk about how they built Crash, and the formation of the company. Pretty much everyone who was talking about it had left the company some time ago.
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Imagine that. All those people started something else when the last project went gold...
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#74 eboyishere
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Imagine that. All those people started something else when the last project went gold...darkspineslayer

The entire thing was a big risk imo.

EDIT:NVM your talking about the main topic :p

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#75 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]

founder left. Amy Henning tho has been there for awhile.She is basicaly the back bone of ND

Funny enough the joke is Amy Henning is the mother of Playstation.

eboyishere

Andy and Jason left to start their social gaming and I think mobile gaming studio. Amy whose been there throughout the Jax franchise is still there, and the main development team that worked on Jax is still there with UC. What I want to know is what the heck are they doing with the other half of the new employee force they hired.

Working on next gen probably.

Without amy? Although Amy said there are several projects in mind, but the executives haven't decided yet. I am hoping for a new IP.
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"] Andy and Jason left to start their social gaming and I think mobile gaming studio. Amy whose been there throughout the Jax franchise is still there, and the main development team that worked on Jax is still there with UC. What I want to know is what the heck are they doing with the other half of the new employee force they hired. Diviniuz

Working on next gen probably.

Without amy? Although Amy said there are several projects in mind, but the executives haven't decided yet. I am hoping for a new IP.

I honestly think it is a new IP. Even tho UC is popular i can see ND drop it for awhile. I feel like they will stay with a more human game still but go down the Final Fantasy type of thing.

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Naughty Dog isn't one to hold onto a series for very long. Past 3 generations they've made a new IP, they'll probably do it again.
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#78 freedomfreak
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Gosh,I just want another Jak game.

sethman410

And... aint jak 3rd person action game? Why do people asssume its uncharted? Such a stupid prediction. Why? Because most of their games are 3rd person action games, like Crash and Jak. Lawl.

Jak is more of an action platformer. It's not like they said anything about a new Jak.This gen we've had 3 uncharted games,that instantly became the ps3 flagship titles and highest scoring exclusive on that system,so excuse me if I assume it's gonna be Uncharted.

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#80 SW__Troll
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

If the game was a broken mess you might have something there. The fact they take insperation from indiana jones doesint make them talentless.

finalfantasy94

UC1 and UC3 are a broken mess, ridden with bugs or poor controls. UC2 was a fluke in ND's development.

:roll: yea didint run into these "poor controls" or "bugs" you speak of in UC1. If these were as serious as you say you would hear more about this in other opinoins.

UC3 actually had terrible input latency (might still unless they patched already)


But it launched like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5-9oV9cXwY

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#81 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

Gosh,I just want another Jak game.

freedomfreak

And... aint jak 3rd person action game? Why do people asssume its uncharted? Such a stupid prediction. Why? Because most of their games are 3rd person action games, like Crash and Jak. Lawl.

Jak is more of an action platformer. It's not like they said anything about a new Jak.This gen we've had 3 uncharted games,that instantly became the ps3 flagship titles and highest scoring exclusive on that system,so excuse me if I assume it's gonna be Uncharted.

Same for Crash bandicoot,even tho it wasnt there game.

I think they will make 1 more then start with something different.