LOL at people thinking PS3 will finish last

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]Why would Gears 2 sell systems? LOLOLOLDaysAirlines

Lol but Gears 1 was the first big game and advertised really well... the onlypeople who would want Gears 2 are people who liked gears 1... and people who own gears 1... OWNS A 360, HENCE NO SYSTEMS SOLD

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]Why would Gears 2 sell systems? LOLOLOLtherealmcc0y

Lol but Gears 1 was the first big game and advertised really well... the onlypeople who would want Gears 2 are people who liked gears 1... and people who own gears 1... OWNS A 360, HENCE NO SYSTEMS SOLD

That's why Halo 2 sold exactly the same number as Halo 1 and sales of Xboxes didn't spike at all............

oh wait.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]Why would Gears 2 sell systems? LOLOLOLtherealmcc0y

Lol but Gears 1 was the first big game and advertised really well... the onlypeople who would want Gears 2 are people who liked gears 1... and people who own gears 1... OWNS A 360, HENCE NO SYSTEMS SOLD

Explain why Halo 2 caused a spike in Xbox sales then?

Or heck, explain why any sequel has ever sold more than it's original.

Or is the stupidity of what you just said coming to you.

[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"]

I don't think Sony will do that bad, but I do believe the Xbox 360 will have a Genesis effect on the PlayStation 3.

It'll tear into it's userbase just like the Sega Genesis did to the Super Nintendo.

the-very-best

Very possible.

I personally think consumers will choose one power console (ie, 360 or PS3) and I still think Sony has what it takes to come out on top this gen.

They're learning from their mistakes.

I chose all 3. 360/Wii for games now and future....PS3 for Blu-ray now and games later. Lets face it there is hardly anything worth owning on the PS3 for games. And dont give me a list of games cause Ive played them all and they are mediocre at best...cept maybe warhawks online. Just picked up RC:ToD yesterday and I would give it a 7 to 8 but hardly a system seller.

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

The why isnt the 360 running away with the victory?

LosDaddie

Price.

If you had any knowledge of the console industry, then you would know that the vast majority of console sales come at the $200 mark and below.

Seems like you need to spend some time learning how this industry works. And SW is not the place to get this knowledge.

Also sells slowed once MS admitted their console burned up at absurd rates, but now that that is straightened out we may see an increase in 360 sells (MS could sure use one after 2007).

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]Why would Gears 2 sell systems? LOLOLOLcakeorrdeath

Lol but Gears 1 was the first big game and advertised really well... the onlypeople who would want Gears 2 are people who liked gears 1... and people who own gears 1... OWNS A 360, HENCE NO SYSTEMS SOLD

That's why Halo 2 sold exactly the same number as Halo 1 and sales of Xboxes didn't spike at all............

oh wait.

Gears is no Halo

Gears is no Halo

therealmcc0y

*points to other high profile sequals.

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]Why would Gears 2 sell systems? LOLOLOLtherealmcc0y

Lol but Gears 1 was the first big game and advertised really well... the onlypeople who would want Gears 2 are people who liked gears 1... and people who own gears 1... OWNS A 360, HENCE NO SYSTEMS SOLD

That's why Halo 2 sold exactly the same number as Halo 1 and sales of Xboxes didn't spike at all............

oh wait.

Gears is no Halo

Wow. Delusions.

You realize Halo isn't the only game to have it's sequel outsell the original. But I'll play into your 'logic'.

So technically, with Final Fantasy or MGS the PS3 userbase should never exceed 10 million, because the fans of those games will buy it and thats all.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

The why isnt the 360 running away with the victory?

GIJames248

Price.

If you had any knowledge of the console industry, then you would know that the vast majority of console sales come at the $200 mark and below.

Seems like you need to spend some time learning how this industry works. And SW is not the place to get this knowledge.

Also sells slowed once MS admitted their console burned up at absurd rates, but now that that is straightened out we may see an increase in 360 sells (MS could sure use one after 2007).

Actually, according to NPD, x360 sales increased from month-to-month when the RRoD warranty was announced.

so what your trying to say is that killzone 2, GTAIV, and MGS4 are all going to guarantee Sony's dominance again this gen?

nuh-uh nope don't see it happening, this gen is alot diffrent then last, now we have more companys making more games for diffrent consoles than only one

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

And besides what System selling games does 360 have now that Halo, is out and gone forever?

Fable? :lol: Ninja Gaiden? :lol:

therealmcc0y

Gears of War2

And weren't cows claiming NGS would sell PS3s? I guess NG2 won't sell x360s....:roll:

Why would Gears 2 sell systems? LOLOLOL

And why would NGS sell PS3 syetems?

Oh please the humanity. Stop now man you are just making cows look bad. Gears 2 WILL sell systems. That's like saying Halo 2 didn't sell Xbox's. Just like FF titles sell systems.

And the whole logic of system loyalty can only go so far.....otherwise Playstation would never exist;)

So technically, with Final Fantasy or MGS the PS3 userbase should never exceed 10 million, because the fans of those games will buy it and thats all.

Danm_999

Now you're just being silly. I CANNOT believe you forgot about GT's 8million userbase. Geez.....and I thought you actually knew something...

That brings up the PS3's userbase to a whopping18M!!:shock:

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

Because in 2008, it will have another price cut,Danm_999

If the 360 has a price cut by the end of 2008 (which at this stage is extremely likely) the advantage is nullified.

and top quality, system selling games.therealmcc0y

Again, it is unlikely the PS3's two year library will be better than the 360's three year library, especially considering it's library has performed more poorly than the 360s did in its first year.

And it has by far the biggest userbase from a last generation

And the xbox isnt liked that much. therealmcc0y

You base both these on intangible and irrational feelings. There is no evidence to suggest that the userbase from the PS2 will convert en mass to the PS3, in fact there is evidence in history to the contrary.

And 360's abysmal hardware failure.

Gotta take it all into account

therealmcc0y

Again, looking at history, there is no reason a console with hardware deficiencies cannot become popular.

You might have a good argument as to why the PS3 doesn't deserve to come last, but you don't as to why it won't come last.

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

Gears is no Halo

cakeorrdeath

*points to other high profile sequals.

Is there a mod for making people's brains hurt?? :x

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

So technically, with Final Fantasy or MGS the PS3 userbase should never exceed 10 million, because the fans of those games will buy it and thats all.

LosDaddie

Now you're just being silly. I CANNOT believe you forgot about GT's 8million userbase. Geez.....and I thought you actually knew something...

That brings up the PS3's userbase to a whopping18M!!:shock:

And that 18 million is assuming there is absolutely nobody that likes more than one of those franchises.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

So technically, with Final Fantasy or MGS the PS3 userbase should never exceed 10 million, because the fans of those games will buy it and thats all.

Danm_999

Now you're just being silly. I CANNOT believe you forgot about GT's 8million userbase. Geez.....and I thought you actually knew something...

That brings up the PS3's userbase to a whopping18M!!:shock:

And that 18 million is assuming there is absolutely nobody that likes more than one of those franchises.

Correct. And don't you dare forget that x360 owners only like Halo3. 3rd party devs know this fact too and have been very disappointed with their sales on the x360.

Cows really do have it made this generation. They can skirt ultimate ownage by playing the, "just wait" card until, well...probably just before the end of this generation.D0013ER

What else are we supposed to do?

We have to wait like Lemmins did with the 360, you lot had to wait for ur gears, ur halo's

PS3 needs time, but System Wars isnt allowing it any

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

So technically, with Final Fantasy or MGS the PS3 userbase should never exceed 10 million, because the fans of those games will buy it and thats all.

LosDaddie

Now you're just being silly. I CANNOT believe you forgot about GT's 8million userbase. Geez.....and I thought you actually knew something...

That brings up the PS3's userbase to a whopping18M!!:shock:

And that 18 million is assuming there is absolutely nobody that likes more than one of those franchises.

Correct. And don't you dare forget that x360 owners only like Halo3. 3rd party devs know this fact too and have been very disappointed with their sales on the x360.

MGS AND FF are NOT coming to 360... I know thats not what you said, but you were implying it somwhere in there

Are u serious comparing there handheld, to the PS3?

Lol u can come up with a better comeback

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Cows really do have it made this generation. They can skirt ultimate ownage by playing the, "just wait" card until, well...probably just before the end of this generation.therealmcc0y

What else are we supposed to do?

We have to wait like Lemmins did with the 360, you lot had to wait for ur gears, ur halo's

PS3 needs time, but System Wars isnt allowing it any

you just named the "exclusives" we didn't have to wait long to get good games, oblvion came out almost 3-5 months after it launched, and we also got GRAW, rainbow six vegas, we also got hitman: blood money. ok, so maybe we had to wait a while for the big hitters but before that we had pleanty of games to play

Are u serious comparing there handheld, to the PS3?

Lol u can come up with a better comeback

therealmcc0y

Did you actually miss the point, or are you just not addressing it so you can continue on with your argument?

I donèt care who finishes last, 1st 2nd, 3rd... if games are one blueray, redray, hddisk, dvd, ddd... if they solf 1billion, or 1hundred, if matel makes the console, panasonic, honda... just gimmie the games. thats all that matters, if sony pulls through next year and starts producing the good stuff Ièll purchase a PS3 and lay my 360 down for awhile... thats it thats allSt_Stu

I know, i know, the 360 has the best games as of now. But yet it isnt storming ahead.

In 2008-2009 it changes all that in software: MGSIV, FFXIII, FF versus XIII, God of War 3, GT5, LBP, Killzone 2, WKS etc etc. And multiplats that will sell PS3 systems GTA IV, RE5, DMC4 etc etc

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Cows really do have it made this generation. They can skirt ultimate ownage by playing the, "just wait" card until, well...probably just before the end of this generation.mlbslugger86

What else are we supposed to do?

We have to wait like Lemmins did with the 360, you lot had to wait for ur gears, ur halo's

PS3 needs time, but System Wars isnt allowing it any

you just named the "exclusives" we didn't have to wait long to get good games, oblvion came out almost 3-5 months after it launched, and we also got GRAW, rainbow six vegas, we also got hitman: blood money. ok, so maybe we had to wait a while for the big hitters but before that we had pleanty of games to play

Ive been playing Oblivion, GRAW , R6V all on my PS3 thx

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Cows really do have it made this generation. They can skirt ultimate ownage by playing the, "just wait" card until, well...probably just before the end of this generation.therealmcc0y

What else are we supposed to do?

We have to wait like Lemmins did with the 360, you lot had to wait for ur gears, ur halo's

PS3 needs time, but System Wars isnt allowing it any

Don't blame us. Cows claimed the PS3 would start dominating on Day One.

Cows are now reaping what they've sowed.

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Cows really do have it made this generation. They can skirt ultimate ownage by playing the, "just wait" card until, well...probably just before the end of this generation.therealmcc0y

What else are we supposed to do?

We have to wait like Lemmins did with the 360, you lot had to wait for ur gears, ur halo's

PS3 needs time, but System Wars isnt allowing it any

you just named the "exclusives" we didn't have to wait long to get good games, oblvion came out almost 3-5 months after it launched, and we also got GRAW, rainbow six vegas, we also got hitman: blood money. ok, so maybe we had to wait a while for the big hitters but before that we had pleanty of games to play

Ive been playing Oblivion, GRAW , R6V all on my PS3 thx

yeah sure you have, the orignal GRAW never came out on the playstation 3, and yeah you have, but we played those games last year:)

MGS AND FF are NOT coming to 360... I know thats not what you said, but you were implying it somwhere in there

therealmcc0y

:lol:

I didn't imply that at all. Now you're just grasping for straws!

Please keep posting!!:lol:

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="mlbslugger86"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Cows really do have it made this generation. They can skirt ultimate ownage by playing the, "just wait" card until, well...probably just before the end of this generation.mlbslugger86

What else are we supposed to do?

We have to wait like Lemmins did with the 360, you lot had to wait for ur gears, ur halo's

PS3 needs time, but System Wars isnt allowing it any

you just named the "exclusives" we didn't have to wait long to get good games, oblvion came out almost 3-5 months after it launched, and we also got GRAW, rainbow six vegas, we also got hitman: blood money. ok, so maybe we had to wait a while for the big hitters but before that we had pleanty of games to play

Ive been playing Oblivion, GRAW , R6V all on my PS3 thx

yeah sure you have, the orignal GRAW never came out on the playstation 3, and yeah you have, but we played those games last year:)

I meant GRAW 2.

And besides it doesnt matter to PS3 owners, it only matters when you have all 3 systems, and lets face it and only the hardcore of hardcore have all 3 systems, so it doesnt matter to 99.9% of PS3 owners

My consoles:

N64

Sony Ps2

Xbox 360

A lot of my friends with Ps2 also bought a 360 like me, so your fanbase logic fails to an extent.

Sony will get good games but why would people pay for this overpriced system that's starved of games. Seriously about 3 people in my year have a Ps3, Im not gonna say no one will buy a PS3 but it has little appeal at the mo.

Mass Effect will do what it says, have a Mass Effect as the 360 destroys the PS3. JK, but you gotta admit, it looks sweet.

Also

And besides it doesnt matter to PS3 owners, it only matters when you have all 3 systems, and lets face it and only the hardcore of hardcore have all 3 systems, so it doesnt matter to 99.9% of PS3 owners

therealmcc0y

You might want to rethink that assertion...

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS AND FF are NOT coming to 360... I know thats not what you said, but you were implying it somwhere in there

LosDaddie

:lol:

I didn't imply that at all. Now you're just grasping for straws!

Please keep posting!!:lol:

Lol u did imply it.

U said 3rd party companys were noticing that the 360 sales were strong, hence implying that FF and MGS, coming from 3rd party companys were thinking of jumping ship to 360

DO NOT LIE

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="mlbslugger86"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Cows really do have it made this generation. They can skirt ultimate ownage by playing the, "just wait" card until, well...probably just before the end of this generation.therealmcc0y

What else are we supposed to do?

We have to wait like Lemmins did with the 360, you lot had to wait for ur gears, ur halo's

PS3 needs time, but System Wars isnt allowing it any

you just named the "exclusives" we didn't have to wait long to get good games, oblvion came out almost 3-5 months after it launched, and we also got GRAW, rainbow six vegas, we also got hitman: blood money. ok, so maybe we had to wait a while for the big hitters but before that we had pleanty of games to play

Ive been playing Oblivion, GRAW , R6V all on my PS3 thx

yeah sure you have, the orignal GRAW never came out on the playstation 3, and yeah you have, but we played those games last year:)

I meant GRAW 2.

And besides it doesnt matter to PS3 owners, it only matters when you have all 3 systems, and lets face it and only the hardcore of hardcore have all 3 systems, so it doesnt matter to 99.9% of PS3 owners

yeah they've been doing that since the ps2, there content with getting year old ports:P j/k

ya know, the tc could've saved a lot of time and just said, "Just wait"...

there is no concrete facts at all in his OP....

i guess hope is all you're left with when reality doesn't look good...

The 360 is THE best console to own as of right now. therealmcc0y

Damn right!

It has the best games and stomping the competition in softwarewith there AAA's.therealmcc0y

It sure does. It is the obvious choice for gamers.

... But why isnt the 360 selling 10's of millions of consoles (sold 12 million so far?) in the time its had so far and its obviously the best console out there. The PS2 had sold 40 million in the same time frame the 360 has had.therealmcc0y

It' still too expensive for most casuals???

You wana know why?

Because 10's of millions of people are waiting to upgrade to the PS3.therealmcc0y

Wrong. You were on a roll. What happened?

Did you talk to those 10's of millions? Is that what they told you? LOL

But hey, even if those millions intended to buy a PS3 a year ago, only the most hardcore of Sony fans are going to be willing to by a PS3 now.

There waiting for the price to drop and the major system selling games to come out. And guess what,the PS3 is going to do both in 2008.therealmcc0y

Some might be waiting for those games to come out next year, but what they will most likely get is more of the same flops we've seen this year.

Price drop: $300-350 next yeartherealmcc0y

360 price drop $200-250 next year

Sonys main catalogue:GT5, MGS4, FFXIII and New and very exciting looking IP's Killzone 2, and LBP.therealmcc0y

Sony has a lot of begging to do if they want to keep some of those game as exclusives.

All I can say is those developers better have a lot of money in the bank otherwise the terrible PS3 attach rate could plunge them into bankruptcy.

/End console Wars

therealmcc0y

/End of your ridiculous post.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]Why would Gears 2 sell systems? LOLOLOLtherealmcc0y

Lol but Gears 1 was the first big game and advertised really well... the onlypeople who would want Gears 2 are people who liked gears 1... and people who own gears 1... OWNS A 360, HENCE NO SYSTEMS SOLD

Ok now is this not the same srgument we heard about Halo 3... God this thread has so much self ownage in it..

Anyone who thinks Gears 2 would not sell consoles should quit posting now..:D

JUST WAIT!

therealmcc0y

That's all I saw in your post.

ya know, the tc could've saved a lot of time and just said, "Just wait"...

there is no concrete facts at all in his OP....

i guess hope is all you're left with when reality doesn't look good...

tango90101

Thats nice, goodbye

The 360 is THE best console to own as of right now.

Its cheaper than the PS3, and at a reasonable price.

It has the best games and stomping the competition in softwarewith there AAA's.

... But why isnt the 360 selling 10's of millions of consoles (sold 12 million so far?) in the time its had so far and its obviously the best console out there. The PS2 had sold 40 million in the same time frame the 360 has had.

You wana know why?

Because 10's of millions of people are waiting to upgrade to the PS3.

There waiting for the price to drop and the major system selling games to come out. And guess what,the PS3 is going to do both in 2008.

Price drop: $300-350 next year

and

Sonys main catalogue:GT5, MGS4, FFXIII and New and very exciting looking IP's Killzone 2, and LBP.

/End console Wars

therealmcc0y

This has got to stop. You cannot predict the future you do not have psychic powers that let you know what will happen in the future. All you can know is what is happening presently. This hoping, dreaming, praying, speculating is out of control. If you really know all of this then please give me the numbers to the lottery. You help me hit the lottery and I'll believe anything you say.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS AND FF are NOT coming to 360... I know thats not what you said, but you were implying it somwhere in there

therealmcc0y

:lol:

I didn't imply that at all. Now you're just grasping for straws!

Please keep posting!!:lol:

Lol u did imply it.

U said 3rd party companys were noticing that the 360 sales were strong, hence implying that FF and MGS, coming from 3rd party companys were thinking of jumping ship to 360

DO NOT LIE

He was probably referring to the Ace Combat devs who made a PS exclusive series (AC) into a 360 exclusive AC6

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

ya know, the tc could've saved a lot of time and just said, "Just wait"...

there is no concrete facts at all in his OP....

i guess hope is all you're left with when reality doesn't look good...

therealmcc0y

Thats nice, goodbye

before i go, just remember, THE PS3 IS IN LAST PLACE AND FALLING FARTHER EVERY SINGLE DAY...;)

goodbye.

The 360 is THE best console to own as of right now.

Its cheaper than the PS3, and at a reasonable price.

It has the best games and stomping the competition in softwarewith there AAA's.

... But why isnt the 360 selling 10's of millions of consoles (sold 12 million so far?) in the time its had so far and its obviously the best console out there. The PS2 had sold 40 million in the same time frame the 360 has had.

You wana know why?

Because 10's of millions of people are waiting to upgrade to the PS3.

There waiting for the price to drop and the major system selling games to come out. And guess what,the PS3 is going to do both in 2008.

Price drop: $300-350 next year

and

Sonys main catalogue:GT5, MGS4, FFXIII and New and very exciting looking IP's Killzone 2, and LBP.

/End console Wars

therealmcc0y

you realize it's actually pathetic that sony has to drop the price drastically just for people to buy it?

And besides what System selling games does 360 have now that Halo, is out and gone forever?

Fable? :lol: Ninja Gaiden? :lol:

therealmcc0y

you obviously dont know how popular fable is it already has a fanbase of 3 million which is sure to grow just like halo it went from 5 million to 9 million and growing and youre forgeting gears of war which has almost sold5 million

imo gears and fable are enough you dont need 20 popular franchises all you need is 2-3 like sony mgs,ff and ninty mario,zelda