Lol @ people who think Xbox Live is immune to DDOS attacks just because you pay

We shouldn't be starting fanboy wars over the PSN situation.

lol, you mad?

We shouldn't be starting stupid fanboy wars over the PSN situation.

Silverbond

Well I'm not one of those fanboys and yeah I agree with you. It's ridiculous lol. There's no network whatsoever that is immune to intrusions. Anyway, what does SMH stand for? sethman410

Shake My Head.

[QUOTE="sethman410"]Well I'm not one of those fanboys and yeah I agree with you. It's ridiculous lol. There's no network whatsoever that is immune to intrusions. Anyway, what does SMH stand for? bez2083

Shake My Head.

Theres no need to hack XBL tho.
Microsoft is a good company, they're not like Sony.

[QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"]Well I'm not one of those fanboys and yeah I agree with you. It's ridiculous lol. There's no network whatsoever that is immune to intrusions. Anyway, what does SMH stand for? sethman410

Shake My Head.

Your welcome, my good deed for the day:)

It's not immune but it's not down because of it... so what's the point of this?? butthurt??

lol if xbox live was in psn's shoes right now, you cows would be having a field day and laughing with glee. so don't be so butthurt.

most people who hack something connected to xbox live is banned in 24/7

id bet xbox live is alot more secure then psn
more paying customers = more money to invest in the service itself

not saying its immune, but its alot less likely

I keep hearing how live isnt immune to hacking yet im still playing reach with no problems and have been as long as i can remember. The longest i can remember going without live was maybe 5 hours due to maintainence back in 2009.bigboss5ak

Theres no need to hack XBL tho.
Microsoft is a good company, they're not like Sony.

TheAcountantMan

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Theres no need to hack XBL tho.
Microsoft is a good company, they're not like Sony.

TheAcountantMan

It is funny, but what did you expect? Fanboyswill argue for weeks about differences in pixelation on zoomed in images. Of course lems were gonna drag cows through the mud over this.

But yes, paying for a service means nothing. If Live was the target, MS would be going through the same mess. Maybe that mountain of money made off Live would have helped themalleviatethe issue faster, but they are not infallible.

I cannot help but SMH at the fanboys on this forum who seem to be under the delusion that Xbox Live is some godly impervious service that is immune to the current problems facing PSN right now, just because you pay $60 for it. You guys do know the EXACT same thing could happen to Xbox Live tommorow right? StrongDeadlift

id bet xbox live is alot more secure then psn
more paying customers = more money to invest in the service itself

not saying its immune, but its alot less likely

GamerMan97

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]

Theres no need to hack XBL tho.
Microsoft is a good company, they're not like Sony.

Danm_999

If it weren't for Microsoft, all of us won't be computing the way we are today.
Sony is a video game company (i know theyr make TV's and radios etc, but i dont buy or care about their "other" electronics), who restricts freedom, removes features.

Microsoft is the opposite, they made it so millions of people could get connected, brought computing worldwide, and made it affordable.
And continue to do so with their Xbox Live service. (i play on Steam but do own an Xbox 360 and pay for Live which is definitely worth it)

Remember when that Code/Point/live generator popped up around sometime last month?
That took about a day or 2, to get patched, nothing is un hackable, thats true, but if MS get's hacked, they'd be good to go by the next day, they're pros.

If it weren't for Microsoft, all of us won't be computing the way we are today.TheAcountantMan

That makes them an influential company, not necessarily a good company. Good and bad are moral terms.

Suppose the alternative to Microsoft's operating system would have been superior. Does this make them a bad company?

Sony is a video game company (i know theyr make TV's and radios etc, but i dont buy or care about their "other" electronics), who restricts freedom, removes features.

Microsoft is the opposite, they made it so millions of people could get connected, brought computing worldwide, and made it affordable.
And continue to do so with their Xbox Live service. (i play on Steam but do own an Xbox 360 and pay for Live which is definitely worth it)

Remember when that Code/Point/live generator popped up around sometime last month?
That took about a day or 2, to get patched, nothing is un hackable, thats true, but if MS get's hacked, they'd be good to go by the next day, they're pros.

TheAcountantMan

Microsoft has also been responsible for several incidents where they've stifled freedom and creativity though.

They've been accused, with pretty convincing evidence, of plaguarising Google search results.

They've been accused of banning Xbox Live profiles where the user has expressed open homosexuality, while failing to do so for homophobic or openly heterosexual users.

They've been accused of anti-competitive practices spreading misinformation and abusing patents with competitors like Linux.

They lost a major anti-trust case to the US government, and a Federal judge claimed ""proved, time and time again, to be inaccurate, misleading, evasive, and transparently false . . . Microsoft is a company with an institutional disdain for both the truth and for rules of law that lesser entities must respect. It is also a company whose senior management is not averse to offering specious testimony to support spurious defenses to claims of its wrongdoing."

So here's what I'm trying to say. Neither Microsoft or Sony are good or bad; they're companies, and they something both do good and bad things.

i pay for live so this kind of ownage doesnt happen to me.

I keep hearing how live isnt immune to hacking yet im still playing reach with no problems and have been as long as i can remember. The longest i can remember going without live was maybe 5 hours due to maintainence back in 2009.bigboss5ak

Yea right

i really dont think anyone thinks xbox live is immune. i think wat they r saying is that it hasent been brocken yet like psn. thats the problem with consoles. if one online service goes on ur console like psn u cant play online in any ganes

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]I keep hearing how live isnt immune to hacking yet im still playing reach with no problems and have been as long as i can remember. The longest i can remember going without live was maybe 5 hours due to maintainence back in 2009._VenomX

Yea right

I cannot help but SMH at the fanboys on this forum who seem to be under the delusion that Xbox Live is some godly impervious service that is immune to the current problems facing PSN right now, just because you pay $60 for it. You guys do know the EXACT same thing could happen to Xbox Live tommorow right? StrongDeadlift

To OP,

You just don't get it.

It's not because we pay for Xbox Live that's preventing all that intrusion to happen.

Main reason why you'll almost never, if not barely see these kinds of problems occur on Xbox Live is simply because Microsoft has a better infrastructure in place and is more strict on how they manage everything.

It's basically a unwritten code they have that says better safe than sorry.

I'll give you some examples, do you notice how Microsoft only allows proprietary products to be used on the Xbox 360?... The PS3, on the other hand, allows you to use a keyboard, mice, PC controllers, bluetooth headsets, printers, on and on etc....

Or you notice how most of the times, it takes longer for a patch to be released on the Xbox Live than on PSN?

I'm just glad Microsoft has these strict policies.

We shouldn't be starting fanboy wars over the PSN situation.

Silverbond

seriously

Theres no need to hack XBL tho.
Microsoft is a good company, they're not like Sony.

TheAcountantMan

Um I don't think I read of any one claiming that....

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]

Theres no need to hack XBL tho.
Microsoft is a good company, they're not like Sony.

TheAcountantMan

If it weren't for Microsoft, all of us won't be computing the way we are today.
Sony is a video game company (i know theyr make TV's and radios etc, but i dont buy or care about their "other" electronics), who restricts freedom, removes features.

Microsoft is the opposite, they made it so millions of people could get connected, brought computing worldwide, and made it affordable.
And continue to do so with their Xbox Live service. (i play on Steam but do own an Xbox 360 and pay for Live which is definitely worth it)

Remember when that Code/Point/live generator popped up around sometime last month?
That took about a day or 2, to get patched, nothing is un hackable, thats true, but if MS get's hacked, they'd be good to go by the next day, they're pros.

Seriously, Microsoft a notorious horrible company.

They over charge for their software. Don't provide enough security for said software, have knowingly released faulty products. Have used their monopolistic weight to crush competition(even taken to supreme court over monopolistic activities), frequently spends more money advertising products then designing them, charge you to use online components of games, I mean... I just...what brought on such stupidity

There is even a bloody wikipedia page completly devoted to critism of Microsoft.

Why are you attacking Xbox live when PSN is down. Are you that bitter OP.

[QUOTE="_VenomX"]

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]I keep hearing how live isnt immune to hacking yet im still playing reach with no problems and have been as long as i can remember. The longest i can remember going without live was maybe 5 hours due to maintainence back in 2009.ChiefMahwoo

Yea right

Theres no need to hack XBL tho.
Microsoft is a good company, they're not like Sony.

TheAcountantMan

Haha! :D MS a good company ...

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]

If it weren't for Microsoft, all of us won't be computing the way we are today.Danm_999

That makes them an influential company, not necessarily a good company. Good and bad are moral terms.

Suppose the alternative to Microsoft's operating system would have been superior. Does this make them a bad company?

Sony is a video game company (i know theyr make TV's and radios etc, but i dont buy or care about their "other" electronics), who restricts freedom, removes features.

Microsoft is the opposite, they made it so millions of people could get connected, brought computing worldwide, and made it affordable.
And continue to do so with their Xbox Live service. (i play on Steam but do own an Xbox 360 and pay for Live which is definitely worth it)

Remember when that Code/Point/live generator popped up around sometime last month?
That took about a day or 2, to get patched, nothing is un hackable, thats true, but if MS get's hacked, they'd be good to go by the next day, they're pros.

TheAcountantMan

Microsoft has also been responsible for several incidents where they've stifled freedom and creativity though.

They've been accused, with pretty convincing evidence, of plaguarising Google search results.

They've been accused of banning Xbox Live profiles where the user has expressed open homosexuality, while failing to do so for homophobic or openly heterosexual users.

They've been accused of anti-competitive practices spreading misinformation and abusing patents with competitors like Linux.

They lost a major anti-trust case to the US government, and a Federal judge claimed ""proved, time and time again, to be inaccurate, misleading, evasive, and transparently false . . . Microsoft is a company with an institutional disdain for both the truth and for rules of law that lesser entities must respect. It is also a company whose senior management is not averse to offering specious testimony to support spurious defenses to claims of its wrongdoing."

So here's what I'm trying to say. Neither Microsoft or Sony are good or bad; they're companies, and they something both do good and bad things.

Not to mention that you can actually credit IBM for the way we are using computers now.

I lol to. You pay to have a secure network. It doesn't mean that it can't be hack. Anything is Hackable.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]

That makes them an influential company, not necessarily a good company. Good and bad are moral terms.

Suppose the alternative to Microsoft's operating system would have been superior. Does this make them a bad company?

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]Sony is a video game company (i know theyr make TV's and radios etc, but i dont buy or care about their "other" electronics), who restricts freedom, removes features.

Microsoft is the opposite, they made it so millions of people could get connected, brought computing worldwide, and made it affordable.
And continue to do so with their Xbox Live service. (i play on Steam but do own an Xbox 360 and pay for Live which is definitely worth it)

Remember when that Code/Point/live generator popped up around sometime last month?
That took about a day or 2, to get patched, nothing is un hackable, thats true, but if MS get's hacked, they'd be good to go by the next day, they're pros.

Filthybastrd

Microsoft has also been responsible for several incidents where they've stifled freedom and creativity though.

They've been accused, with pretty convincing evidence, of plaguarising Google search results.

They've been accused of banning Xbox Live profiles where the user has expressed open homosexuality, while failing to do so for homophobic or openly heterosexual users.

They've been accused of anti-competitive practices spreading misinformation and abusing patents with competitors like Linux.

They lost a major anti-trust case to the US government, and a Federal judge claimed ""proved, time and time again, to be inaccurate, misleading, evasive, and transparently false . . . Microsoft is a company with an institutional disdain for both the truth and for rules of law that lesser entities must respect. It is also a company whose senior management is not averse to offering specious testimony to support spurious defenses to claims of its wrongdoing."

So here's what I'm trying to say. Neither Microsoft or Sony are good or bad; they're companies, and they something both do good and bad things.

Not to mention that you can actually credit IBM for the way we are using computers now.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]I cannot help but SMH at the fanboys on this forum who seem to be under the delusion that Xbox Live is some godly impervious service that is immune to the current problems facing PSN right now, just because you pay $60 for it. You guys do know the EXACT same thing could happen to Xbox Live tommorow right? UnnDunn

there's really no need to start a war here

lol if xbox live was in psn's shoes right now, you cows would be having a field day and laughing with glee. so don't be so butthurt.

meatgrinderz

This pretty much sums it up. The PS3 Fanboys do one thing better than the rest and that is CONTRADICTION!

Theres no need to hack XBL tho.
Microsoft is a good company, they're not like Sony.

TheAcountantMan

[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

lol if xbox live was in psn's shoes right now, you cows would be having a field day and laughing with glee. so don't be so butthurt.

iBrodeoShowdeo

This pretty much sums it up. The PS3 Fanboys do one thing better than the rest and that is CONTRADICTION!

Singling out one faction for this sort of behaviour is... Narrow minded to say the least.

[QUOTE="iBrodeoShowdeo"]

[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

lol if xbox live was in psn's shoes right now, you cows would be having a field day and laughing with glee. so don't be so butthurt.

Filthybastrd

This pretty much sums it up. The PS3 Fanboys do one thing better than the rest and that is CONTRADICTION!

Singling out one faction for this sort of behaviour is... Narrow minded to say the least.

yup,also I don't think anyone is laughing..true gamers that is, but ya Cows sure would, can't believe this got to a second page