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#151 tormentos
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

 

BOM for W5000 is similar to 7850 and there's even a "7830" (or 7850 ES or AFox branded 7850) prototype with the same 768 stream processor count.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Pitcairn-radeon-HD-7850-768-shaders-gpu,15524.html

TH%20Afox%20HD%207850%20GPU-Z%2002.jpg

 

 

 

With FirePro, you pay for the enterprise level software driver support. Grow up clown.

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The Firepro is a 1.3 TF GPU for workstation is cost $400 or more,while having less performance than the 7850.:lol:

It make no sense what so ever for MS to use it.

 

Face it Ron the xbox one has a 7790 with 2 CU disable and 800mhz or less that is a fact.

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#152 ronvalencia
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The Firepro is a 1.3 TF GPU for workstation is cost $400 or more,while having less performance than the 7850.:lol:

It make no sense what so ever for MS to use it.

Face it Ron the xbox one has a 7790 with 2 CU disable and 800mhz or less that is a fact.

tormentos

Face it tormentos, W5000's Crysis 2 benchmarks is slower than 7790. The difference between 825 Mhz and 800Mhz is just 3 percent.

If you read http://www.alivegamezone.com/2013/02/20/crysis-3s-graphics-only-5-to-10-better-on-console-says-crytek-ceo/

This time around the consoles couldnt gain much more, For consoles, not much could be pushed on the graphic side of things. Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli told Eurogamer in an interview. It was like a five per cent or ten per cent gain. Thats it.

Targeting a console gains another 5 to 10 percent (which is not enough for Unreal Engine 4 SVOGI enabled demos btw).

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As for the $400 retail cost, BOM for W5000 is similar to 7850 and there's even a "7830" (or 7850 ES or AFox branded 7850) prototype with the same 768 stream processor count.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Pitcairn-radeon-HD-7850-768-shaders-gpu,15524.html

TH%20Afox%20HD%207850%20GPU-Z%2002.jpg

With FirePro, you pay for the enterprise level software driver support. Grow up clown.

PS; My posting with "7830" or W5000 Crysis 2 benchmarks conflicts with http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_one_and_ps4_have_no_advantage_over_the_other_says_redlynx.html

The Xbox One and PS4 are on a equal footing according to Trials creative director Antti Ilvessuo.

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at E3, Ilvessuo said: " Obviously we have been developing this game for a while and you can see the comparisons. I would say if you know how to use the platform they are both very powerful. I don't see a benefit over the other with any of the consoles."

Ilvessuo also explained that "It all depends on how you use the platform and how you use it right. That's the thing."

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#153 LJS9502_basic
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Forza 5 is going to knock socks offR3FURBISHED
I really thought that was the best looking game......but since it's running on PC....it doesn't say much for the X1.

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#154 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Forza 5 is going to knock socks offLJS9502_basic

I really thought that was the best looking game......but since it's running on PC....it doesn't say much for the X1.

F5 is not F4 @ 1080p/60fps.

Radeon HD 7770 can run Dirt 3 (1920x1080, 4X MSAA at high details). This includes improved textures and shader programs.

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#155 tormentos
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Face it tormentos, W5000's Crysis 2 benchmarks is slower than 7790. The difference between 825 Mhz and 800Mhz is just 3 percent.

 

If you read http://www.alivegamezone.com/2013/02/20/crysis-3s-graphics-only-5-to-10-better-on-console-says-crytek-ceo/

This time around the consoles couldnt gain much more, For consoles, not much could be pushed on the graphic side of things. Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli told Eurogamer in an interview. It was like a five per cent or ten per cent gain. Thats it.

 

Targeting a console gains another 5 to 10 percent (which is not enough for Unreal Engine 4 SVOGI enabled demos btw).

 

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As for the $400 retail cost, BOM for W5000 is similar to 7850 and there's even a "7830" (or 7850 ES or AFox branded 7850) prototype with the same 768 stream processor count.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Pitcairn-radeon-HD-7850-768-shaders-gpu,15524.html

TH%20Afox%20HD%207850%20GPU-Z%2002.jpg

 

 

 

With FirePro, you pay for the enterprise level software driver support. Grow up clown.

 

 

 

 

PS; My posting with "7830" or W5000 Crysis 2 benchmarks conflicts with http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_one_and_ps4_have_no_advantage_over_the_other_says_redlynx.html

The Xbox One and PS4 are on a equal footing according to Trials creative director Antti Ilvessuo.

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at E3, Ilvessuo said: " Obviously we have been developing this game for a while and you can see the comparisons. I would say if you know how to use the platform they are both very powerful. I don't see a benefit over the other with any of the consoles."

Ilvessuo also explained that "It all depends on how you use the platform and how you use it right. That's the thing."

ronvalencia

 

The xbox one doesn't have a Firepro period it was pull from your ass.

 

And yeah that quote serve you for nothing when other developers claim the difference could be 30 vs 60 in most games or much richer IQ on the PS4.

 

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#156 Douevenlift_bro
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How the HELL do you defend this? :lol::lol:

 

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#157 Douevenlift_bro
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

I know that a lot of E3 demos are being run on PCs, but that pic only shows the PC unit. There's no connected screen shown, no indication of what game is being run from it. No link to any source provided.

So what's really going on here? As far as any evidence goes, where that could be a display for a XB1 multiplat game, PS4 multiplat, or PC game, this is just TC's assertion that it's Forza 5.

ZoomZoom2490

 

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lol, denied.

 

X1 game crashed to Windows, lol.

 

you should of never asked for more.

 

 

OUCH :x

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#158 stvee101
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Inb4 the cow circlejerk.

They were just using a PC that matched the xbox one's specs since the console is still in development.

super600

Cry more lem.

You actually believe I'm a lem.:lol::lol:

No but you are usually woefully ignorant and ill-informed.

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#159 I_can_haz
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How the HELL do you defend this? :lol::lol:

 

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:lol: You can't. Lems will still try though lol.  SHAMEFUR DISPRAY M$....SHAMEFUR DISPRAY.
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#160 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="super600"]

Inb4 the cow circlejerk.

They were just using a PC that matched the xbox one's specs since the console is still in development.

Aparthide

:lol:

It's three times as powerful.

even worse

a titan is about 3 times faster than a HD7850 and xboxOne have a HD7770 :lol:

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#161 wickedsc300
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That's it! Shut down the internet! Games at E3 are shown on high end PC's? MIND BLOWN!!! /sarcasm.
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#162 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

 

Face it tormentos, W5000's Crysis 2 benchmarks is slower than 7790. The difference between 825 Mhz and 800Mhz is just 3 percent.

 

If you read http://www.alivegamezone.com/2013/02/20/crysis-3s-graphics-only-5-to-10-better-on-console-says-crytek-ceo/

This time around the consoles couldnt gain much more, For consoles, not much could be pushed on the graphic side of things. Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli told Eurogamer in an interview. It was like a five per cent or ten per cent gain. Thats it.

 

Targeting a console gains another 5 to 10 percent (which is not enough for Unreal Engine 4 SVOGI enabled demos btw).

 

-----

As for the $400 retail cost, BOM for W5000 is similar to 7850 and there's even a "7830" (or 7850 ES or AFox branded 7850) prototype with the same 768 stream processor count.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Pitcairn-radeon-HD-7850-768-shaders-gpu,15524.html

TH%20Afox%20HD%207850%20GPU-Z%2002.jpg

 

 

 

With FirePro, you pay for the enterprise level software driver support. Grow up clown.

 

 

 

 

PS; My posting with "7830" or W5000 Crysis 2 benchmarks conflicts with http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_one_and_ps4_have_no_advantage_over_the_other_says_redlynx.html

The Xbox One and PS4 are on a equal footing according to Trials creative director Antti Ilvessuo.

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at E3, Ilvessuo said: " Obviously we have been developing this game for a while and you can see the comparisons. I would say if you know how to use the platform they are both very powerful. I don't see a benefit over the other with any of the consoles."

Ilvessuo also explained that "It all depends on how you use the platform and how you use it right. That's the thing."

tormentos

 

The xbox one doesn't have a Firepro period it was pull from your ass.

 

And yeah that quote serve you for nothing when other developers claim the difference could be 30 vs 60 in most games or much richer IQ on the PS4.

 

Did you missed 7850 prototype or 7830 prototype with 768 stream processors? FirePro is the closest GCN with 768 stream processors and uses the 7830 prototype's 768 stream processors configuration. I'm not interested with AMD's driver software markup with FirePro..
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#163 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="Aparthide"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Inb4 the cow circlejerk.

They were just using a PC that matched the xbox one's specs since the console is still in development.

MK-Professor

:lol:

It's three times as powerful.

even worse

a titan is about 3 times faster than a HD7850 and xboxOne have a HD7770 :lol:

HD 7770's results doesn't factor in the additional TMUs.
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#164 xhawk27
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So far I only saw Lococycle game kiosk that had the computers. I'll like to see if someone took a picture and show it for other games like Forza 5, Ryse,

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#165 NationProtector
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Ah, but all dev kits use PC for game development, and of course, that PC has Xboxone specs. All in engine baby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UseyU5Wrez8
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#166 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="NationProtector"]Ah, but all dev kits use PC for game development, and of course, that PC has Xboxone specs. All in engine baby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UseyU5Wrez8

the thing that some don't understand is that lococycle ( dev explained why )and the dragons game were the only ones running on PC hardware..the rest of the games were running on actual hardware and dev kits confirmed by the developers.
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#167 gpuking
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According to Gaf's insider the xbone games at launch will look less impressive than the ones shown at E3. This may well coincide with the news. And the Xbone games at E3 aren't impressive to start with. Game over MS.
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#168 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="wickedsc300"]That's it! Shut down the internet! Games at E3 are shown on high end PC's? MIND BLOWN!!! /sarcasm.

Well it is false advertising.....
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="wickedsc300"]That's it! Shut down the internet! Games at E3 are shown on high end PC's? MIND BLOWN!!! /sarcasm.

Well it is false advertising.....

Oh god, you are stupid.
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#170 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="wickedsc300"]That's it! Shut down the internet! Games at E3 are shown on high end PC's? MIND BLOWN!!! /sarcasm.

Well it is false advertising.....

High end PCs can simulate lower spec PCs.
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#171 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="wickedsc300"]That's it! Shut down the internet! Games at E3 are shown on high end PC's? MIND BLOWN!!! /sarcasm.

Well it is false advertising.....

High end PCs can simulate lower spec PCs.

If it's not the specific console...it's false. You cannot state how the X1 games will look since you have not actually seen them. And that is reality.
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#172 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="wickedsc300"]That's it! Shut down the internet! Games at E3 are shown on high end PC's? MIND BLOWN!!! /sarcasm.

Well it is false advertising.....

Oh god, you are stupid.

No at least I understand what false advertising is whereas you....do not.
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#173 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Well it is false advertising.....

Oh god, you are stupid.

No at least I understand what false advertising is whereas you....do not.

and how is that false advertising? just because some devs decided to run their games on PC hardware?, Crytek said Ryse ran on current hardware,same with forza 5 and other people that attended to e3 saw gameplay of these games on xbox one dev kits behind closed doors.
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#174 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Well it is false advertising.....

High end PCs can simulate lower spec PCs.

If it's not the specific console...it's false. You cannot state how the X1 games will look since you have not actually seen them. And that is reality.

The reality *is* somebody is creating FUD against X1. It's funny it takes a tweet from the source to debunk the FUD.