looks like gran turismo cant compete in modern racers

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

tidus222

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

[QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

HHH316

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

the game claims to be a racing simulator, in real racing when you hit walls or other cars your car gets damaged...

its not about cheap thrills its about realism

We'll see when it gets reviewed won't we?

[QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

HHH316

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

[QUOTE="HHH316"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

tidus222

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

the game claims to be a racing simulator, in real racing when you hit walls or other cars your car gets damaged...

its not about cheap thrills its about realism

when you hit a wall at 100mph, you usually die, or the car is destroyed and wont race anymore. ive seen the head on collisions in forza 2, and they are mild damage at best. i will take no damage to a crappy damage sim. personally i think damage is dumb, i see no reason for it, it doesnt help me enjoy the game in any way.

[QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

HHH316

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

Wow... worst dmg control ever.... if anything, people who dont want dmg in a racing sim are the ones who just want to run into other cars, because they dont have the skills to race properly.

Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up.

You are a fanboy plain and simple, luckily for you that GT5 isnt a sim, you wouldn't make it 1 lap around the track.

[QUOTE="HHH316"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

Zandeus

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

Wow... worst dmg control ever.... if anything, people who dont want dmg in a racing sim are the ones who just want to run into other cars, because they dont have the skills to race properly.

Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up.

You are a fanboy plain and simple, luckily for you that GT5 isnt a sim, you wouldn't make it 1 lap around the track.

ive watched many racing events, and i know people who participate in these events, and they never run into eachother. its about 1 in a million in anything other than nascar and its always a LARGE, race ending crash (at least for the drivers involved). you dont continue racing if something is broke in real racing, you stop the vehicle to prevent more damage, take it back to the trailer, and either repair it, or take it back to your shop and do so. your obviously too young to know jack about racing, dont know how you come about this amazing info of what real racing is like.

ive watched many racing events, and i know people who participate in these events, and they never run into eachother.

Gzus666

O RLY?

I think I still have to see a racing event where there isn't a single crash. With damage that hurts the car. Either from contact between cars or from hitting barriers outside the track.

Not every race in the world is boring round-and-round Nascar, you know. Most races *don't* throw a pacecar on the track - or flag the race until everyone is up and running again - unless there is something seriously messed up.

Damage in racing is a very common event.

[QUOTE="Zandeus"][QUOTE="HHH316"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

Gzus666

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

Wow... worst dmg control ever.... if anything, people who dont want dmg in a racing sim are the ones who just want to run into other cars, because they dont have the skills to race properly.

Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up.

You are a fanboy plain and simple, luckily for you that GT5 isnt a sim, you wouldn't make it 1 lap around the track.

ive watched many racing events, and i know people who participate in these events, and they never run into eachother. its about 1 in a million in anything other than nascar and its always a LARGE, race ending crash (at least for the drivers involved). you dont continue racing if something is broke in real racing, you stop the vehicle to prevent more damage, take it back to the trailer, and either repair it, or take it back to your shop and do so. your obviously too young to know jack about racing, dont know how you come about this amazing info of what real racing is like.

too bad its not"The Sims: RacingCarDriver Edition" game,its a racing sim, I don't have to make my decisions based on what someone else would do in the same situation, in order for the experience to be realistic.Its obvious you dont know jack about a proper rebuttal, and lack the ability to stay on topic.

why is everyone so worried about damage?? It hardly makes a game now does it??fraz1776

Exactly. people are just jeleous that GT is WAY more popular than forza or any other racing game for that matter.

[QUOTE="Gzus666"]

ive watched many racing events, and i know people who participate in these events, and they never run into eachother.

McCool69

O RLY?

I think I still have to see a racing event where there isn't a single crash. With damage that hurts the car. Either from contact between cars or from hitting barriers outside the track.

Not every race in the world is boring round-and-round Nascar, you know. Most races *don't* throw a pacecar on the track - or flag the race until everyone is up and running again - unless there is something seriously messed up.

you have never seen a racing even without a crash? Nascar actually has the most crashing, and i dont watch that. F1 is rare to see a crash, if you do, its race ending. sprint cars dont crash into eachother usually, they just lift off the track and smash. Lemans rarely touch eachother, and if they do, its nothing serious, otherwise its a giant wreck. what does a pacecar have to do with anything? i said they take their vehicle out if it seriously breaks, the guy said "Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up." but in real racing, they dont try to win a race with a vehicle severely pulling, or a transmission damaged, because there is no way of even coming close to winning, and its dangerous.

why is everyone so worried about damage?? It hardly makes a game now does it??fraz1776

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

tidus222

[QUOTE="McCool69"][QUOTE="Gzus666"]

ive watched many racing events, and i know people who participate in these events, and they never run into eachother.

Gzus666

O RLY?

I think I still have to see a racing event where there isn't a single crash. With damage that hurts the car. Either from contact between cars or from hitting barriers outside the track.

Not every race in the world is boring round-and-round Nascar, you know. Most races *don't* throw a pacecar on the track - or flag the race until everyone is up and running again - unless there is something seriously messed up.

you have never seen a racing even without a crash? Nascar actually has the most crashing, and i dont watch that. F1 is rare to see a crash, if you do, its race ending. sprint cars dont crash into eachother usually, they just lift off the track and smash. Lemans rarely touch eachother, and if they do, its nothing serious, otherwise its a giant wreck. what does a pacecar have to do with anything? i said they take their vehicle out if it seriously breaks, the guy said "Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up." but in real racing, they dont try to win a race with a vehicle severely pulling, or a transmission damaged, because there is no way of even coming close to winning, and its dangerous.

So your argument is that Forza isnt realistic enough, because we still try and win a race if we screw up on a turn and dmg our steering?

And at the same time are defending GT5 for not having any sort of dmg at all, umm.... because thats more realistic than trying to win a race with a car thats damaged???

Pfff.... you sir are a hyprocritic fanboy, go back to your cave, troll.

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="Zandeus"][QUOTE="HHH316"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

Zandeus

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

Wow... worst dmg control ever.... if anything, people who dont want dmg in a racing sim are the ones who just want to run into other cars, because they dont have the skills to race properly.

Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up.

You are a fanboy plain and simple, luckily for you that GT5 isnt a sim, you wouldn't make it 1 lap around the track.

ive watched many racing events, and i know people who participate in these events, and they never run into eachother. its about 1 in a million in anything other than nascar and its always a LARGE, race ending crash (at least for the drivers involved). you dont continue racing if something is broke in real racing, you stop the vehicle to prevent more damage, take it back to the trailer, and either repair it, or take it back to your shop and do so. your obviously too young to know jack about racing, dont know how you come about this amazing info of what real racing is like.

too bad its not"The Sims: RacingCarDriver Edition" game,its a racing sim, I don't have to make my decisions based on what someone else would do in the same situation, in order for the experience to be realistic.Its obvious you dont know jack about a proper rebuttal, and lack the ability to stay on topic.

so, tell me again in your response where you explained what racing event continues racing with serious drivetrain or frame damage? its not just what someone else would do, its real life, you cant continue racing with a damaged transmission.

there is only a few things that can go wrong with a manual trans. you got a bearing comes apart, usually on the input shaft, that sends metal through, chews up the gears, and the lash is all messed up and chews the rest of the trans up, this happens in a matter of seconds with something catastrophic. other is you damaged a syncro badly, and you wont be able to get into that gear. next is you strip a gear or the splines off one of the shafts, which again, ends the racing for you.

if you have frame damage enough to make you pull heavily and throw off your camber, its unsafe to race, and anyone would stop. damage stops races, always has, always will. for a game, you remove that damage, and the game continues. for a fun factor, i dont like damage. for realism, the damage needs to be real, not BS crumples like in forza 2. ive seen the damage in that game, its silly and obviously a first gen version of damage. they should have left it out and continued working on the idea till it was decent

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="McCool69"][QUOTE="Gzus666"]

ive watched many racing events, and i know people who participate in these events, and they never run into eachother.

Zandeus

O RLY?

I think I still have to see a racing event where there isn't a single crash. With damage that hurts the car. Either from contact between cars or from hitting barriers outside the track.

Not every race in the world is boring round-and-round Nascar, you know. Most races *don't* throw a pacecar on the track - or flag the race until everyone is up and running again - unless there is something seriously messed up.

you have never seen a racing even without a crash? Nascar actually has the most crashing, and i dont watch that. F1 is rare to see a crash, if you do, its race ending. sprint cars dont crash into eachother usually, they just lift off the track and smash. Lemans rarely touch eachother, and if they do, its nothing serious, otherwise its a giant wreck. what does a pacecar have to do with anything? i said they take their vehicle out if it seriously breaks, the guy said "Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up." but in real racing, they dont try to win a race with a vehicle severely pulling, or a transmission damaged, because there is no way of even coming close to winning, and its dangerous.

So your argument is that Forza isnt realistic enough, because we still try and win a race if we screw up on a turn and dmg our steering?

And at the same time are defending GT5 for not having any sort of dmg at all, umm.... because thats more realistic than trying to win a race with a car thats damaged???

Pfff.... you sir are a hyprocritic fanboy, go back to your cave, troll.

actually im taking both sides of the argument. if your going to make damage, dont halfass it. otherwise, leave it out. from a gameplay standpoint, damage sucks, and makes the game less enjoyable. the point of the game is to race, not to have a pile of scrap metal at the end.

[QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

l-_-l

Realistic racing physics??? in GT... LOL.... every car that you touch, reacts like it weighs 5 tons and is driving on the track via rails, cuz the game won't allow the Computer controlled cars to move with anything other than a train hitting them at 60mph.

Have fun with ur LAST GEN, prehistoric racer.

[QUOTE="Zandeus"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="McCool69"][QUOTE="Gzus666"]

ive watched many racing events, and i know people who participate in these events, and they never run into eachother.

Gzus666

O RLY?

I think I still have to see a racing event where there isn't a single crash. With damage that hurts the car. Either from contact between cars or from hitting barriers outside the track.

Not every race in the world is boring round-and-round Nascar, you know. Most races *don't* throw a pacecar on the track - or flag the race until everyone is up and running again - unless there is something seriously messed up.

you have never seen a racing even without a crash? Nascar actually has the most crashing, and i dont watch that. F1 is rare to see a crash, if you do, its race ending. sprint cars dont crash into eachother usually, they just lift off the track and smash. Lemans rarely touch eachother, and if they do, its nothing serious, otherwise its a giant wreck. what does a pacecar have to do with anything? i said they take their vehicle out if it seriously breaks, the guy said "Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up." but in real racing, they dont try to win a race with a vehicle severely pulling, or a transmission damaged, because there is no way of even coming close to winning, and its dangerous.

So your argument is that Forza isnt realistic enough, because we still try and win a race if we screw up on a turn and dmg our steering?

And at the same time are defending GT5 for not having any sort of dmg at all, umm.... because thats more realistic than trying to win a race with a car thats damaged???

Pfff.... you sir are a hyprocritic fanboy, go back to your cave, troll.

actually im taking both sides of the argument. if your going to make damage, dont halfass it. otherwise, leave it out. from a gameplay standpoint, damage sucks, and makes the game less enjoyable. the point of the game is to race, not to have a pile of scrap metal at the end.

Okay, so your a Sony Fanboy that has never played Forza2, okay I get it now. Its obvious you lack that ability to know when you're wrong or at least are not man enough to admit it.

why is everyone so worried about damage?? It hardly makes a game now does it??fraz1776

But Cows were hyping the damage. That thread alone had a bunch of hopes and dreams washed down the drain.... :shock:

and to think i held off buying forza 2 waiting for GT5

but now forza is the king

GT series is old news because they refuse to adapt..

ive seen the damage in that game, its silly and obviously a first gen version of damage. they should have left it out and continued working on the idea till it was decent

Gzus666

Well, you'll get your wish then since GT5 will not have damage and will continue its great legacy of 'realism' by still offering no consequences whatsoever for wallriding, heavy crashes or bumping into other cars. The way a lot of people play GT though this is probably for the best; it would be a shock for them to actually brake properly or overtake other cars without pushing their way through the field.

I can't help thinking that most of the damage-control-crew here would have heralded damage in GT5 like the second coming if it had been confirmed to include that today instead of the opposite ;) I still remember Polyphony saying that they didn't include damage in GT4 because the hardware couldn't take it. Hopefully that's not the case with PS3.

AND PS: I watch every single F1 race religiously. And it is very rare for a race to don't have any incidents at all; from full-blown crashes to smaller damage like spoilers or tires.

Here's a quick rundown of the retired drivers from the last 2 races for you:

FRENCH GP:

R Scott Speed United States Toro Rosso-Ferrari 55 Gearbox

R Christijan Albers Netherlands Spyker-Ferrari 48 Retired

R Anthony Davidson Britain Super Aguri-Honda 1 Damage

R Jarno Trulli Italy Toyota 1 Damage

R Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy Toro Rosso-Ferrari 0 Accident

US GP:

R Nico Rosberg Germany Williams-Toyota 68

R Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy Toro Rosso-Ferrari 68 Retired

R Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW 55 Hydraulics

R Takuma Sato Japan Super Aguri-Honda 13 Spin

R David Coulthard Britain Red Bull-Renault 0 Damage

R Rubens Barrichello Brazil Honda 0 Damage

R Ralf Schumacher Germany Toyota 0 Accident

That's 5 and 7 retired drivers (from a field of 22). So don't say that there's 'never' any damagerelated incidents in F1.

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="Zandeus"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="McCool69"][QUOTE="Gzus666"]

Zandeus

O RLY?

I think I still have to see a racing event where there isn't a single crash. With damage that hurts the car. Either from contact between cars or from hitting barriers outside the track.

Not every race in the world is boring round-and-round Nascar, you know. Most races *don't* throw a pacecar on the track - or flag the race until everyone is up and running again - unless there is something seriously messed up.

you have never seen a racing even without a crash? Nascar actually has the most crashing, and i dont watch that. F1 is rare to see a crash, if you do, its race ending. sprint cars dont crash into eachother usually, they just lift off the track and smash. Lemans rarely touch eachother, and if they do, its nothing serious, otherwise its a giant wreck. what does a pacecar have to do with anything? i said they take their vehicle out if it seriously breaks, the guy said "Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up." but in real racing, they dont try to win a race with a vehicle severely pulling, or a transmission damaged, because there is no way of even coming close to winning, and its dangerous.

So your argument is that Forza isnt realistic enough, because we still try and win a race if we screw up on a turn and dmg our steering?

And at the same time are defending GT5 for not having any sort of dmg at all, umm.... because thats more realistic than trying to win a race with a car thats damaged???

Pfff.... you sir are a hyprocritic fanboy, go back to your cave, troll.

actually im taking both sides of the argument. if your going to make damage, dont halfass it. otherwise, leave it out. from a gameplay standpoint, damage sucks, and makes the game less enjoyable. the point of the game is to race, not to have a pile of scrap metal at the end.

Okay, so your a Sony Fanboy that has never played Forza2, okay I get it now. Its obvious you lack that ability to know when you're wrong or at least are not man enough to admit it.

explain to me how an opinion on what i prefer in gameplay makes me wrong? youre really good at just saying your right, without actually addressing the concerns. you debate like people who just yell louder without really saying anything. nice response to nothing i said. one could say you are just a "MS fanboy" and ignore everything you post. but i infact address everything you posted in all the posts you make. how bout this, lets pretend we are both adults, cause clearly youre not, and debate more civilized? point and counter point if you will. if you dont want to address the points made like i do for you, then we can end this squabble now, cause i dont bicker, i prefer debate with well thought out points, not a childish name calling baby game.

But Cows were hyping the damage. That thread alone had a bunch of hopes and dreams washed down the drain.... :shock:

Magical_Zebra

Yep, they sure did. And some of those people now act like it's not a big deal at all. Even though it was at the time.

System Wars is great; it always make me laugh :)

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

But Cows were hyping the damage. That thread alone had a bunch of hopes and dreams washed down the drain.... :shock:

McCool69

Yep, they sure did. And some of those people now act like it's not a big deal at all. Even though it was at the time.

System Wars is great; it always make me laugh :)

Exactly. Some of the very same people in that link and this thread are now trying to downplay the issues. Read page 1 and 2. Its hilarious... :lol:

[QUOTE="HHH316"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

akuma303x

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

uh huh...then your gunna come right back to SW's complaining its too realistic and barely unplayable.

[QUOTE="Zandeus"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="Zandeus"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="McCool69"][QUOTE="Gzus666"]

Gzus666

O RLY?

I think I still have to see a racing event where there isn't a single crash. With damage that hurts the car. Either from contact between cars or from hitting barriers outside the track.

Not every race in the world is boring round-and-round Nascar, you know. Most races *don't* throw a pacecar on the track - or flag the race until everyone is up and running again - unless there is something seriously messed up.

you have never seen a racing even without a crash? Nascar actually has the most crashing, and i dont watch that. F1 is rare to see a crash, if you do, its race ending. sprint cars dont crash into eachother usually, they just lift off the track and smash. Lemans rarely touch eachother, and if they do, its nothing serious, otherwise its a giant wreck. what does a pacecar have to do with anything? i said they take their vehicle out if it seriously breaks, the guy said "Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up." but in real racing, they dont try to win a race with a vehicle severely pulling, or a transmission damaged, because there is no way of even coming close to winning, and its dangerous.

So your argument is that Forza isnt realistic enough, because we still try and win a race if we screw up on a turn and dmg our steering?

And at the same time are defending GT5 for not having any sort of dmg at all, umm.... because thats more realistic than trying to win a race with a car thats damaged???

Pfff.... you sir are a hyprocritic fanboy, go back to your cave, troll.

actually im taking both sides of the argument. if your going to make damage, dont halfass it. otherwise, leave it out. from a gameplay standpoint, damage sucks, and makes the game less enjoyable. the point of the game is to race, not to have a pile of scrap metal at the end.

Okay, so your a Sony Fanboy that has never played Forza2, okay I get it now. Its obvious you lack that ability to know when you're wrong or at least are not man enough to admit it.

explain to me how an opinion on what i prefer in gameplay makes me wrong? youre really good at just saying your right, without actually addressing the concerns. you debate like people who just yell louder without really saying anything. nice response to nothing i said. one could say you are just a "MS fanboy" and ignore everything you post. but i infact address everything you posted in all the posts you make. how bout this, lets pretend we are both adults, cause clearly youre not, and debate more civilized? point and counter point if you will. if you dont want to address the points made like i do for you, then we can end this squabble now, cause i dont bicker, i prefer debate with well thought out points, not a childish name calling baby game.

I'm not gonna repeat my arguments, you've wasted enough of my time, scroll back through our discussion if you can't remember what I had said.

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="Zandeus"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="McCool69"][QUOTE="Gzus666"]

ive watched many racing events, and i know people who participate in these events, and they never run into eachother.

Zandeus

O RLY?

I think I still have to see a racing event where there isn't a single crash. With damage that hurts the car. Either from contact between cars or from hitting barriers outside the track.

Not every race in the world is boring round-and-round Nascar, you know. Most races *don't* throw a pacecar on the track - or flag the race until everyone is up and running again - unless there is something seriously messed up.

you have never seen a racing even without a crash? Nascar actually has the most crashing, and i dont watch that. F1 is rare to see a crash, if you do, its race ending. sprint cars dont crash into eachother usually, they just lift off the track and smash. Lemans rarely touch eachother, and if they do, its nothing serious, otherwise its a giant wreck. what does a pacecar have to do with anything? i said they take their vehicle out if it seriously breaks, the guy said "Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up." but in real racing, they dont try to win a race with a vehicle severely pulling, or a transmission damaged, because there is no way of even coming close to winning, and its dangerous.

So your argument is that Forza isnt realistic enough, because we still try and win a race if we screw up on a turn and dmg our steering?

And at the same time are defending GT5 for not having any sort of dmg at all, umm.... because thats more realistic than trying to win a race with a car thats damaged???

Pfff.... you sir are a hyprocritic fanboy, go back to your cave, troll.

actually im taking both sides of the argument. if your going to make damage, dont halfass it. otherwise, leave it out. from a gameplay standpoint, damage sucks, and makes the game less enjoyable. the point of the game is to race, not to have a pile of scrap metal at the end.

Okay, so your a Sony Fanboy that has never played Forza2, okay I get it now. Its obvious you lack that ability to know when you're wrong or at least are not man enough to admit it.

i've played forza 2 and i drove a RSX into a wall going 75 and my front bumper just came off and that was it. handling got harder to control but in real life we both know driving that fast into a wall would be me dropping a bowling ball on your head.

[QUOTE="HHH316"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

tidus222

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

the game claims to be a racing simulator, in real racing when you hit walls or other cars your car gets damaged...

its not about cheap thrills its about realism

In real racing if you hit into a wall at 200 mph you wont be able to drive away.

[QUOTE="Zandeus"]

Okay, so your a Sony Fanboy that has never played Forza2, okay I get it now. Its obvious you lack that ability to know when you're wrong or at least are not man enough to admit it.

djxaquaxblue

i've played forza 2 and i drove a RSX into a wall going 75 and my front bumper just came off and that was it. handling got harder to control but in real life we both know driving that fast into a wall would be me dropping a bowling ball on your head.

Ok then that was probably the demo which is only limited to cosmetic damage. You would not have plowed into that same wall at 75mph with full damage on and moved your car.... :shock:

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

Zandeus

Realistic racing physics??? in GT... LOL.... every car that you touch, reacts like it weighs 5 tons and is driving on the track via rails, cuz the game won't allow the Computer controlled cars to move with anything other than a train hitting them at 60mph.

Have fun with ur LAST GEN, prehistoric racer.

Damage doesn't really make or break the game, but it seems odd to leave out in a racing simulator.

I mean, I know some of you cows are arguing "bu bu u wont run into other people anyway!!!", but you're completely forgetting that in the real world, well, **** happens, and that's why damage should've been incorporated.

In GT people abuse the cars bounce off the walls and rear end the AI in order to win the races. In Forza if you set the difficulty correctly you can't do that.

That's why GT is a joke now. What will be removed next in order to make the game pretty? Online?

[QUOTE="Zandeus"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="McCool69"][QUOTE="Gzus666"]

ive watched many racing events, and i know people who participate in these events, and they never run into eachother.

Gzus666

O RLY?

I think I still have to see a racing event where there isn't a single crash. With damage that hurts the car. Either from contact between cars or from hitting barriers outside the track.

Not every race in the world is boring round-and-round Nascar, you know. Most races *don't* throw a pacecar on the track - or flag the race until everyone is up and running again - unless there is something seriously messed up.

you have never seen a racing even without a crash? Nascar actually has the most crashing, and i dont watch that. F1 is rare to see a crash, if you do, its race ending. sprint cars dont crash into eachother usually, they just lift off the track and smash. Lemans rarely touch eachother, and if they do, its nothing serious, otherwise its a giant wreck. what does a pacecar have to do with anything? i said they take their vehicle out if it seriously breaks, the guy said "Try playing Forza 2 and run into other cars and see how difficult it is to win a race when your car is pulling to the left the entire race and your transmission is screwed up." but in real racing, they dont try to win a race with a vehicle severely pulling, or a transmission damaged, because there is no way of even coming close to winning, and its dangerous.

So your argument is that Forza isnt realistic enough, because we still try and win a race if we screw up on a turn and dmg our steering?

And at the same time are defending GT5 for not having any sort of dmg at all, umm.... because thats more realistic than trying to win a race with a car thats damaged???

Pfff.... you sir are a hyprocritic fanboy, go back to your cave, troll.

actually im taking both sides of the argument. if your going to make damage, dont halfass it. otherwise, leave it out. from a gameplay standpoint, damage sucks, and makes the game less enjoyable. the point of the game is to race, not to have a pile of scrap metal at the end.

If this is what the Sony fans have resorted to in order to defend the lack of damage in GT5...God, it's just too sad.

[QUOTE="HHH316"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

no damage is just pathetic

looks like forza 2 is the king of racers

hopefully GT5 will at least have online to make up for this trash with no damage

tidus222

So you want to buy a racing sim just to crash and not race properly, childish, you are turned on by cheap thrills friend.

the game claims to be a racing simulator, in real racing when you hit walls or other cars your car gets damaged...

its not about cheap thrills its about realism

EXACTLY!

the GT fanboys don't understand (because they've never experienced it) the additional layer of gameplay that's added to vehicle wear and damage...

hit a wall? say goodbye to your front end downforce, alignment, etc.... causing the driver to adjust his strategy and driving techniques.

with GT games you simply bump the competition out of the way with no impact to gameplay or vehicle dynamics...

pathetic.....

the "real driving simulator" my eye...:roll: