looks like Lair is the first casualty in the cows holiday overhype campaign.....

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#51 da1on2
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August is the holidays now? Is there even any holiday in August?
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#52 Finale-
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whos hyping Lair AAA???

btw Gamepro also gave the Darkness a 3.75/5.

yet it managed to score a 8.5 here.

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Good point.

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#53 washere12
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Ask Casey what the official hype for lAAir is. Don't be a forum noob.

Besides, around here, only GS's score counts. And I personally "officialy hype" the game AA. However, its anyones guess what GS is going to give it. Why do you make these threads? You just like arguing? Bored?
0rin

TC, OWNED(HYPED AA KID)

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#54 frodnekcod
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Who cares if its not AAA? Its hyped AA :?

If you average the 2 reviews of Lair out right now, its at 82.5/100. Looks like it met its hype right now.

asdasd

3.75 is A.

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#55 vegetattack15
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[QUOTE="NestleAquafina"]I'd take Lair over the whole 2007 lineup of Xbox360 games any day.bezaire2005

That's either because you are a biased fanboy, or you have a "thing" for dragons

....both disgust me, especially the second one.

I love dragons, and my PS3, but theres no way I would ever take just Lair over the entire 360 holiday line-up. Thats just fanboyism, if I had all the games it would then be worth the purchase. I already made my choice though, and Im extemely happy with it.

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#56 frodnekcod
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[QUOTE="0rin"]Ask Casey what the official hype for lAAir is. Don't be a forum noob.

Besides, around here, only GS's score counts. And I personally "officialy hype" the game AA. However, its anyones guess what GS is going to give it. Why do you make these threads? You just like arguing? Bored?
washere12

TC, OWNED(HYPED AA KID)

3.75 is A.

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#57 player_leo
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I guess Cows just based this game being AAA because it look great.... Graphics look awesome, but as we all know graphics don't make the game.. KillZone2 looks great, but looks arn't everything.
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#58 Frunku
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Where's the Official Lair Hype thread?

It's written in the title: (Currently: AA) or something.

And even if that nowhere magazine gave lair 3,75, another gave it 9/10.

And even with that, nobody cares, only GS scores count here. I'm pretty sure this was written somewhere in a sticky.

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#59 player_leo
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August is the holidays now? Is there even any holiday in August?da1on2
My birthday is in August. It's a national holiday in some states.
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#60 FusionApex
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Well, cows seriously said it was AA (SW sticky), GS is always the final authority, and reviews really are opinions, they are there to help us, not so that we can read it and say, wow, that was great, we read reviews to know a good or bad a game is.

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#61 mwa
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yeah i think lair will be one of those mediocre-to-good games that everyone forgets about in 6 months
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#62 da1on2
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[QUOTE="da1on2"]August is the holidays now? Is there even any holiday in August?player_leo
My birthday is in August. It's a national holiday in some states.

LOL my brother's is too and he acts the same way

P.S. if only some states observe it, it's not a national holiday:)

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#63 MikeE21286
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GamePro 3.75/5 That's not AAA...

And to dispell the "We'll wait to see how GS reviews it" and "we never said AAA" and "reviews are opinion" etc. etc. etc. You all overhyped this game and it will fall by the wayside, much like motorstorm and probably Killlzone in a few months. I know sony hasn't given you much to believe in over the past year but please don't fall victim to putting games like Lair in the same conversation as Mass Effect and BioShock and Halo3... It's just not smart.

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The hype is AA on the game.

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#64 Blackbond
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Sorry but I'll wait for the GS review. No sense in wasting my words until the final judgement is in.
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#65 Sully28
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I thought most people were hyping this AA. :|Impex
Thats what i recall to
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#66 Blitz_Nemesis
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Remember the Lair Hype thread? It was hyped AA.
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#67 IbukiNinja
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I guess Cows just based this game being AAA because it look great.... Graphics look awesome, but as we all know graphics don't make the game.. KillZone2 looks great, but looks arn't everything.player_leo

it was hyped AA, which I think is silly. It's like hyping someone to become second place...

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#68 Snugenz
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Thought your Heavenly Sword demo thread would tell you not to do more of these threads.

And it is GamePro... I never trusted them since the days predating EGM.

NobuoMusicMaker

Funny, because when Gamepro did the "10 reasons not to buy a 360" article you and another cows loved them :roll:

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#69 Amnesiacx
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First, it's hyped AA here. Second, last I checked Gamepro =/= Gamespot, and quite frankly, Gamepro is a joke. TC = Self OWNED!
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#70 Liondog
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[QUOTE="vegetattack15"]

So what exactly is it your wanting to see, "oh sob sob, I can't beleive I bought a PS3 when I'm not even sure Lair will be AAA. Boo hoo whaaaa. I knew I should have gone with a system that creates mostly shooters and breaks down."

I didn't see anything from MS that interested me this holiday as I don't like shooters, and you know what? The world will keep turning after 2007 is over, what then?

If you can't create a thread with the intent of some kind of intelligent debate, really just leave it one of your smarter fellow Lemmings.

colmusterd28

Ms has a much more diverse library of games than PS3, matter of fact, isn't PS3 the console that is agressivly producing shooters?? its living and breathing on Killzone overhype.... I'm gonna be too busy playing Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssy, Mass Effect over the next year...

How can you play games when your system doesn't even work? Why defend a billion dollar company that wouldn't defend you? You are the very definition of a lemming.
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#72 E_x_i_l_e
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Gamepro? lol I'm leaving my own opinion tell me if it's good or not
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#73 ferrarimanf355
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Thought your Heavenly Sword demo thread would tell you not to do more of these threads.

And it is GamePro... I never trusted them since the days predating EGM.

NobuoMusicMaker

...

Sounds like you think Play Magazine got it right, but then again, you think racing simulators don't need damage... :|

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#74 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

GamePro 3.75/5 That's not AAA...

And to dispell the "We'll wait to see how GS reviews it" and "we never said AAA" and "reviews are opinion" etc. etc. etc. You all overhyped this game and it will fall by the wayside, much like motorstorm and probably Killlzone in a few months. I know sony hasn't given you much to believe in over the past year but please don't fall victim to putting games like Lair in the same conversation as Mass Effect and BioShock and Halo3... It's just not smart.

colmusterd28

3.75 is still a very good score. Do you not buy games that don't get AAA scores or something?

Not at 60 dollars a pop... I may pick one up in the bargain bin in a few years... 3.75=75 at GS...

I agree. The only games i am paying $60 for are games worth it. For example I still want to play Overlord but I can wait till price drops some.
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#75 rybe1025
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Remember the Lair Hype thread? It was hyped AA.Blitz_Nemesis
That is also because it was not only cows in that thread. If only cows voted then it would have been AAA hyped.
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#76 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="Blitz_Nemesis"]Remember the Lair Hype thread? It was hyped AA.rybe1025
That is also because it was not only cows in that thread. If only cows voted then it would have been AAA hyped.

Anecdotal evidence FTL. Truth of the matter is the hype is AA, try and spin it how you want if it makes you feel better.......

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#77 MikeE21286
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Rainbow Six Vegas 8/10 at EGM :shock: AAA at GS
Dead Rising 7.5/10 at EGM :shock: AA at GS
Gears of War 8/10 at Eurogamer :shock: AAA GotY at GS
Oblivion 4/5 at Gamespy :shock: AAA GotY Contender at GS

Why is it hard to think that maybe a particular reviewer didn't enjoy the game as much as others lol. And what is 3.75/5, the equivalent of a 7.5 which is only one off from the hype. I'm pretty sure this thread has just been debunked

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#78 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Blitz_Nemesis"]Remember the Lair Hype thread? It was hyped AA.MikeE21286

That is also because it was not only cows in that thread. If only cows voted then it would have been AAA hyped.

Anecdotal evidence FTL. Truth of the matter is the hype is AA, try and spin it how you want if it makes you feel better.......

Lair was hyped to no end by cows and if you want to backpeddle now that is fine. I think it is funny so many cows are saying they thought this whole time it was a AA game now when SO MANY threads have been made about Lair. From Lair best graphics ever, only PS3 is powerfull enough to run Lair, lair blows away gears, and so on.
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#79 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Blitz_Nemesis"]Remember the Lair Hype thread? It was hyped AA.rybe1025

That is also because it was not only cows in that thread. If only cows voted then it would have been AAA hyped.

Anecdotal evidence FTL. Truth of the matter is the hype is AA, try and spin it how you want if it makes you feel better.......

Lair was hyped to no end by cows and if you want to backpeddle now that is fine. I think it is funny so many cows are saying they thought this whole time it was a AA game now when SO MANY threads have been made about Lair. From Lair best graphics ever, only PS3 is powerfull enough to run Lair, lair blows away gears, and so on.

All of your examples are talking about Lair's graphics.....which are great and just because people might hype the hell out of the graphics doesn't mean they are hyping the game itself. Graphics =/= Gameplay , which has always been the question with this game (has it not?). In the end, when "the chips were on the table" people hyped Lair AA.

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#80 munu9
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Why the hell does this review matter when the play magazine review didn't?
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#81 Squall_Griver
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we hyped it AA

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#82 no_submission
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AA= Overhyped?
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#83 REVOLUTIONfreak
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I don't think Lair looks all that great TBH. It looks decent enough to probably justify buying, but nothing spectacular. I think the dragons and visual flair is what people are hyping it for, not the gameplay.
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#84 GatoFeo
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the real question is, who did hype it AAA?? hint: Dude with the funny mustache

I'm pretty sure almost every1 hype at least AA.

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#85 mentzer
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Lair is officially hyped AA here in SW.

Period. End of story.

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#86 joeychew
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still hype to get AA here.
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#87 kniveshurt18
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Why the hell does this review matter when the play magazine review didn't?munu9
Because it's negative of course. Fanboys don't post positive news of games on competing consoles they hate (cows and lems especially). This review basically confirms my suspicion that people are becoming Jabba the Huts when they complain about being forced to use the Six-axis and not analogue, while the controls, gameplay, graphics and sound are apparently top notch.
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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Is GamePro GameSpot? Is Play magazine GameSpot? Answer to both is no, so they both mean squat on GameSpot's forums.SpruceCaboose

please read the rest of the original post before making yourself seem less intelligent.....

Your original post says that Lair is flopping because it got a 75% at GamePro (3.7/5). The other review that is up for the game is a 90% from Play magazine. I am saying, and we've gone over this in countless threads, that the only reviews that count on GameSpot's forums are the reviews from GameSpot. Until there is a GameSpot review that is less than a 7.0 (it was officially hyped AA as there was a hype thread for it), Lair is not a flop.

End of your thread.

Less than 8.0 would be below AA... also, I wrote in the ORIGINAL POST that I acknowledged it isn't GS score but that and overall score of 75 is not near the projected hype regardless of reviews... GS isn't giving it AAA and despite what you now claim I've read "Lair GOTY threads for weeks..." turns out lair is just another motorstorm.... flop.

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#89 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Is GamePro GameSpot? Is Play magazine GameSpot? Answer to both is no, so they both mean squat on GameSpot's forums.colmusterd28

please read the rest of the original post before making yourself seem less intelligent.....

Your original post says that Lair is flopping because it got a 75% at GamePro (3.7/5). The other review that is up for the game is a 90% from Play magazine. I am saying, and we've gone over this in countless threads, that the only reviews that count on GameSpot's forums are the reviews from GameSpot. Until there is a GameSpot review that is less than a 7.0 (it was officially hyped AA as there was a hype thread for it), Lair is not a flop.

End of your thread.

Less than 8.0 would be below AA... also, I wrote in the ORIGINAL POST that I acknowledged it isn't GS score but that and overall score of 75 is not near the projected hype regardless of reviews... GS isn't giving it AAA and despite what you now claim I've read "Lair GOTY threads for weeks..." turns out lair is just another motorstorm.... flop.

how is it not "near" the hype....75 is the same as 7.5.....it's one score away from the GShype....this thread has already died man

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#90 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Is GamePro GameSpot? Is Play magazine GameSpot? Answer to both is no, so they both mean squat on GameSpot's forums.colmusterd28

please read the rest of the original post before making yourself seem less intelligent.....

Your original post says that Lair is flopping because it got a 75% at GamePro (3.7/5). The other review that is up for the game is a 90% from Play magazine. I am saying, and we've gone over this in countless threads, that the only reviews that count on GameSpot's forums are the reviews from GameSpot. Until there is a GameSpot review that is less than a 7.0 (it was officially hyped AA as there was a hype thread for it), Lair is not a flop.

End of your thread.

Less than 8.0 would be below AA... also, I wrote in the ORIGINAL POST that I acknowledged it isn't GS score but that and overall score of 75 is not near the projected hype regardless of reviews... GS isn't giving it AAA and despite what you now claim I've read "Lair GOTY threads for weeks..." turns out lair is just another motorstorm.... flop.

It can't flop without a GS review. Besides, it doesn't need an AAA score, only AA. And when did reviews from other sites just transfer over to GS?
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#91 Trading_Zoner
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It was hyped AA, and until it gets reviewed on GS it can't be a "casualty".
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#92 CJL13
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[QUOTE="Blitz_Nemesis"]Remember the Lair Hype thread? It was hyped AA.rybe1025
That is also because it was not only cows in that thread. If only cows voted then it would have been AAA hyped.

Couldn't you say that about every hype thread?

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#93 Ninja-Vox
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The annoying thing about cows these day is the deliberate under-hyping of massively hyped games. Lair was hyped to oblivion. There were even Lair > Halo threads, yet when Casey made the official thread...AA.
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#94 MikeE21286
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The annoying thing about cows these day is the deliberate under-hyping of massively hyped games. Lair was hyped to oblivion. There were even Lair > Halo threads, yet when Casey made the official thread...AA.Ninja-Vox

People hyped the HELL outta the graphics. And they are freakin' awesome. The gameplay was always the big question (wasn't it). Just because you say a game looks freakin' amazing doesn't mean that you think the game overall will reach that quality.

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#95 Ibacai
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The annoying thing about cows these day is the deliberate under-hyping of massively hyped games. Lair was hyped to oblivion. There were even Lair > Halo threads, yet when Casey made the official thread...AA.Ninja-Vox
Games are usually hyped insane amounts until all the facts are there. Take me for example, I was hyping Lair AAA until (Until, ;) ) I found that it has around 12-14 hours of gameplay. Yes, other short games have been AAA and even GOTY but it changed "my" hype.
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#96 Rhys555
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Who cares if its not AAA? Its hyped AA :?

If you average the 2 reviews of Lair out right now, its at 82.5/100. Looks like it met its hype right now.

asdasd

owned by asdasd.

/thread.

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#97 Heil68
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[QUOTE="asdasd"]

Who cares if its not AAA? Its hyped AA :?

If you average the 2 reviews of Lair out right now, its at 82.5/100. Looks like it met its hype right now.

Rhys555

owned by asdasd.

/thread.

Too bad your worthless opinion cant end threads in an open forum.
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#98 WilliamRLBaker
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last time i checked when lairs makers said it couldn't be done on 360.....all cows hyped it AAA.....
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#99 MikeE21286
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last time i checked when lairs makers said it couldn't be done on 360.....all cows hyped it AAA.....WilliamRLBaker

and last I checked the hype thread said " A A " how is this so hard to realize.

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#100 ELJUDEZ
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I thought most people were hyping this AA. :|Impex
Me to.