Looks like MS has thrown in the towel against Sony

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#1 Ryno1179
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Sony is having incredible success with PS4,” Phil Spencer said during an on-stage interview at the GeekWire Summit Thursday. “They have a huge lead and a good product … but we are not motivated by beating Sony, we’re motivated by gaining customers.”LINK

Looks like MS knows that they have lost this Gen. now they are just trying to get people to buy the Xbox One so they can save some face.

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#2 mems_1224
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Old news is old. If you're gonna make a shitty troll topic at least be current

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#3  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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All I see is, Phil is being a good Sportsman from the looks of it. Plus he did congratulated Sony's PS4 launch anyways.

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#4 Ryno1179
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The article was posted today.

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#5 NyaDC
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How is them being motivated to please the consumer throwing in the towel? They're not trying to appease Sony, they need to appease the existing and potential user base, that of which they're excelling at greatly.

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#6  Edited By The_Stand_In
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Reading comprehension fail....

They said they aren't MOTIVATED by beating Sony, but by GAINING CUSTOMERS. Their goal as a business/brand is to gain customers. As many as possible. Preferably more than the competition. BUT THAT ISN'T WHAT MOTIVATES THEM (or so they say...).

That's hardly giving up. They are still in direct competition. And they want more customers...

I'll let that sink in for ya.

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#7  Edited By deactivated-5b0367b217732
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Everyone knows who won this gen. Don't need Phil Spencer to tell me it's over...

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#8 lundy86_4  Online
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How is that throwing in the towel? He's being a good sport, and playing the PR game.

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#9 Ryno1179
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They can say whatever they want but when they did hold the lead last Gen. you didn't see these articles. I'm sorry but as a business they want to outsell Sony because for every PS4 that is sold odds are it's one less Xbox One in that persons home. The Majority of people don't buy more then one console.

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#10 lamprey263
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That's not quite what he said, but it's equally as pathetic.

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#11 clone01
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Wow, you must get your news from the thrifty nickel. That's old as shit.

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#12 Ryno1179
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@lundy86_4 said:

How is that throwing in the towel? He's being a good sport, and playing the PR game.

Because he knows that it is going to be very unlikely that the Xbox One will ever catch up to the PS4. He is basically admitting defeat and that their main focus that motivates them is gaining customers back. The Xbox One isn't going anywhere it's just time for the Xbox Fanboys to finally admit defeat this Gen and move on and enjoy their system. Maybe next Gen. MS will be motivated to sell systems so they can get more exclusives and deals like they did when the 360 was in the lead.

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#13 Ryno1179
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@clone01 said:

Wow, you must get your news from the thrifty nickel. That's old as shit.

Sorry I don't spend every waking moment on the Internet, the article I read and linked to was posted today.

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#14 mems_1224
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@ryno1179: just because you get news from shit places doesn't make the news any less old.

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#15 -God-
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Cows sure love bragging about 2nd place.

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#16 Bruin1986
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@ryno1179 said:

Sony is having incredible success with PS4,” Phil Spencer said during an on-stage interview at the GeekWire Summit Thursday. “They have a huge lead and a good product … but we are not motivated by beating Sony, we’re motivated by gaining customers.”LINK

Looks like MS knows that they have lost this Gen. now they are just trying to get people to buy the Xbox One so they can save some face.

Amazing analysis. Microsoft would like people to purchase it's console. Correct...

They're well aware of the fact that they'll likely never outsell the PS4 but they can still gain millions of new customers.

What is your point exactly?

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#17 deactivated-5b0367b217732
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@Bruin1986 said:

They're well aware of the fact that they'll likely never outsell the PS4

No one likes a loser.

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#18  Edited By Thunderdrone
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@-God- said:

Cows sure love bragging about 2nd place.

I could not give less of a shit about the specifics of Sony's finances but, 2nd place to what?

edit: Oh wait, its you. You are gonna say PC and I'm gonna laugh at your face.

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#19  Edited By silversix_
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He's bowing to the king.

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#20 -God-
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@Thunderdrone said:
@-God- said:

Cows sure love bragging about 2nd place.

edit: Oh wait, its you. You are gonna say PC and I'm gonna laugh at your face.

But PC is objectively first place...No matter what your opinion is.

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#22 clone01
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@ryno1179 said:
@clone01 said:

Wow, you must get your news from the thrifty nickel. That's old as shit.

Sorry I don't spend every waking moment on the Internet, the article I read and linked to was posted today.

Can't help it if the shit you look up is old. Also, sure, every company wants to be number 1, but I think your title is erroneous, misleading bait. You're talking about a guy who is a mouthpiece and representative of that corporation. What do you think he's going to say?

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#23  Edited By oflow
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@-God-: but no one cares about PC when you talk system wars. Flaunting the obvious is stupid. It's like a guy in a Ferrari bagging on a guy driving a Camry . Guys that drive Ferraris don't concern themselves with Camry drivers they are too busy driving their awesome Ferraris.

Hermits should be debating each other about Intel/amd/nvidia not comparing themselves to consoles.

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#24 Thunderdrone
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@-God- said:
@Thunderdrone said:
@-God- said:

Cows sure love bragging about 2nd place.

edit: Oh wait, its you. You are gonna say PC and I'm gonna laugh at your face.

But PC is objectively first place...No matter what your opinion is.

PC is not a platform held by any single company. The money it makes is fragmented across various component factories, branded PC boxes, multiple digital storefronts, etc, etc, etc...

There is nothing to put in first place because no single entity represents PC or benefits financially for the money the environment generates.

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#25 chikenfriedrice
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Their goal is to sale consoles? What kind of bullshit is this?

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#26 Bruin1986
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@Thunderdrone said:
@-God- said:
@Thunderdrone said:
@-God- said:

Cows sure love bragging about 2nd place.

edit: Oh wait, its you. You are gonna say PC and I'm gonna laugh at your face.

But PC is objectively first place...No matter what your opinion is.

PC is not a platform held by any single company. The money it makes is fragmented across various component factories, branded PC boxes, multiple digital storefronts, etc, etc, etc...

There is nothing to put in first place because no single entity represents PC or benefits financially for the money the environment generates.

The money made from console sales is also fragmented across various component factories, considering the "parent" company uses 3rd party companies to make many of the components.

If you were going to say one "single entity" represents PC, it would be, ironically enough, Microsoft, considering something like 90% of all personal computers on earth run Windows. Microsoft has a stronger hold on the home computer market than any console manufacturer has on the console market.

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@hernandezzzz said:

Everyone knows who won this gen. Don't need Phil Spencer to tell me it's over...

So since it's not Nintendo leading it sales, sales matter again?

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#28 deactivated-5b0367b217732
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@dotWithShoes said:
@hernandezzzz said:

Everyone knows who won this gen. Don't need Phil Spencer to tell me it's over...

So since it's not Nintendo leading it sales, sales matter again?

lol Nintendo

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#29 The_Last_Ride
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@ryno1179: it would be foolish to go bashing sony anyways. It's been apparant since launch anyways

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#30 Heil68
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Golly, I didn't see that coming even with SONY leading the gen and being current sales leader.

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@Bruin1986 said:

The money made from console sales is also fragmented across various component factories, considering the "parent" company uses 3rd party companies to make many of the components.

If you were going to say one "single entity" represents PC, it would be, ironically enough, Microsoft, considering something like 90% of all personal computers on earth run Windows. Microsoft has a stronger hold on the home computer market than any console manufacturer has on the console market.

1- Console manufactors make deals with component companies but they own every single branded box sold. They make money on EVERY single game sold (besides 2nd hand market), they make money on selling and loaning dev kits, they make money with online services. A HUGE percentage of profits run through the platform owner.

PC does not have a platform owner.

2- I mean gaming PCs. Windows is not made for gaming, its not big because of gamers and I doubt PC game profits have shit to do with how much MS makes out of its OS every year. C'mon now! Really?

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I am a huge sony/playstation fan and hated the xbox one before launch and during the first year. They fixed that shit. It is a great product now with a great sales guy who is in touch with his audience at the helm saying all of the right things. I like their direction. Kudos to microsoft.

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#33 funkmaster1233
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It's just sad how the PS4 won due to Don Mattrick. If it was like the PS2 where they pumped out game after game that justified the sales then it would be great.

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#34 Suppaman100
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Look at the butthurt from the usual lems.

"Bu..bu..bu...it's olldddd newwss!"

LOL

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#35 BigKingCheese
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Sorry, lems, but it's pretty much over. Better luck next gen. Only have to wait two or so years!

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#36 deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@bigkingcheese: Just wait for the big guns to release, then Xbox One can win back America, its not that far from it anyway.

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http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/08/12/i-want-to-win-this-generation-says-xbox-boss-phil-spencer.aspx

His views really have changed it seems.

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#38 FoxbatAlpha
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Wow TC really is fucked up when it comes to reading comprehension and pulling his head out of his ass.

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#39  Edited By LJS9502_basic  Online
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@lundy86_4 said:

How is that throwing in the towel? He's playing the PR game.

Fixed it for you.

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#40 tormentos
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@-God- said:

Cows sure love bragging about 2nd place.

Consoles and PC are different markets and you still a fake boy.

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#41 StrongDeadlift
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@davillain- said:

All I see is, Phil is being a good Sportsman from the looks of it. Plus he did congratulated Sony's PS4 launch anyways.

/thread.

When Sony was getting spanked last gen, Sony just buried their head in the sand and ignored the entire world, and it took them at least 3 years (4 if you're counting since its reveal) to stop pretending things were business as usual at HQ. You couldnt've pointed a gun at them and made them acknowledge the PS3's place last gen.

MS owns up to it's mistakes in two months, takes its L like a man. Sony plugs its ears in denial, and pretends its winning.

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#42 SecretPolice
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What else can be said other than.... Xbox Won. :P

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#43 Shewgenja
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ITT:

Lems saying that any shred of competition between XBox and Playstation is "old news"..

Still continue the System War.

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#44 deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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Will they win worldwide sale against sony....no. selling 15 millions units in a span of 2 years losing....hell no. Big picture is whether the xbox one a success and as of right now it's on its way to becoming one.

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#45 Ryno1179
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Wow TC really is fucked up when it comes to reading comprehension and pulling his head out of his ass.

Really quite being such a fanboy. MS know that they will not be able to defeat Sony in console sales this Gen. Phil knows it now if only the blind fanboys would wake up to the fact. Phil is probably the best thing to happen to the Xbox brand, I bought one myself after they did the 180. The facts are though that the Xbox One is going to remain in second place. So now with they make a PR statement how it's getting new gamers that motivates them and not console sales. Funny because unless those new gamers buy an Xbox one they don't get anything. Also don't be foolish if your a console manufacture then you absolutely want to sell your console no matter what BS you come up with that motivates you.

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@bigkingcheese said:

Sorry, lems, but it's pretty much over. Better luck next gen. Only have to wait two or so years!

Sony can't match Microsoft's next gen console. It's going to be so much more powerful than the Kick-starter funded PS5. Hahahahahahahaa

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#47  Edited By soulitane
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@davem1992 said:

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/08/12/i-want-to-win-this-generation-says-xbox-boss-phil-spencer.aspx

His views really have changed it seems.

He essentially says the same thing there that he wants to win, but he doesn't want to win at the expense of Sony. Meaning that he wants as many customers as possible but doesn't want the opposition to fail in the process.

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#48 BigKingCheese
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@xhawk27 said:
@bigkingcheese said:

Sorry, lems, but it's pretty much over. Better luck next gen. Only have to wait two or so years!

Sony can't match Microsoft's next gen console. It's going to be so much more powerful than the Kick-starter funded PS5. Hahahahahahahaa

You lems said that last gen.

There won't be another Xbox console btw.

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#49 Legend002
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lol They already admitted defeat. Just a year ago they were "in it to win it".

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#50 hrt_rulz01
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@nyadc said:

How is them being motivated to please the consumer throwing in the towel? They're not trying to appease Sony, they need to appease the existing and potential user base, that of which they're excelling at greatly.

Exactly. Dumb thread.