Looks like the 360 won this FALL

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#1 Nisim19
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3 AAAEs in 1 month thats amzing

and 2 games got 9.5, looks like U2 dont kill the 360 lineup after all.

looks like the 360 ownd this fall and even this year IMO (if you count LAD and L4D2)

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#2 DethSkematik
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Yes, that is amazing, but you shouldn't ignore the other platforms either, my friend ;)
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#3 SolidTy
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I don't think the majority of SW agrees, nor Gamespot, nor probably even the majority of the gaming world.

However, as a gamer, I do stress for YOU to enjoy those amazing games, because they are good.

The King of SW approves this message.

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#4 NeonNinja
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I'm not going to lie to you, I was thinking the same thing. I know PS3 has had high quality all year, but I just started to think "oh snap, them PS3 boys screaming about their 9.5 just got hit with two 9.5s on that OTHER platform." :lol:

I still really, REALLY, want to play Demon's Souls and Uncharted 2, and I won't deny that the PS3 has had the best year thus far, but the 360 has had good stuff this Fall starting with ODST, leading to Forza 3 and Ballad of Gay Tony.

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Sadly i am not into racing games or GTA4 so no 9.5 games on 360 for me but hee i am happy enough with 8.5 borderlands for now.
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#6 campzor
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[QUOTE="Nisim19"]

3 AAAEs in 1 month thats amzing

and 2 games got 9.5, looks like U2 dont kill the 360 lineup after all.

looks like the 360 ownd this fall and even this year IMO (if you count LAD and L4D2)

why would u count ballad of *** tony yet give the option for lost and the damned:? dlc games dont count cause if they did ps3 users could use wipeout etc... 2 FULL RETAILS games getting AAAE in 2 days is better then 2 in a month :P oh and if u count L4d2 then we count MLB09
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#7 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Hmm. That's actually kind of true, afterall, 3 AAAE > 2 AAAE and 1 AAE.
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#8 SolidTy
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Hmm. That's actually kind of true, afterall, 3 AAAE > 2 AAAE and 1 AAE.Stevo_the_gamer

All year you have always used the PC to make sure there was no Winner, even in threads labelled PS3 Vs. 360, or 360 Vs Wii Vs. PS3.

Now this guy make sa thread, and it's kind of true.

Hmm....for shame.

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#9 -Grieves-
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This thread looks like it is using some definition of the word "won" that I was not previously aware of.

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#10 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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All year you have always used the PC to make sure there was no Winner, even in threads labelled PS3 Vs. 360, or 360 Vs Wii Vs. PS3.

Now this guy make sa thread, and it's kind of true.

Hmm....for shame.

SolidTy

Yes, winner overall. But the last great exclusive the PC had was hearts of iron 3 back in August. For the fall of 2009, the Xbox 360 looks to be the winner. This is what this thread is about, right? The Fall of 2009?

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#11 TreeMoBMoney
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Hmm. That's actually kind of true, afterall, 3 AAAE > 2 AAAE and 1 AAE.Stevo_the_gamer
Sure if you wanna get low and start fighting about seasons... Ps3 had the best year, why can people get over that? :/ ballad of gay tony is awesome, and so is forza 3 but those were surefire, you can rearrange releases all you want, and if these two games at the beginning of the year, people would have forgot already. because it looks like alot of people forgot about the ps3s lineup throughout the year so... sure hes right, but is he...right?
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#12 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Sure if you wanna get low and start fighting about seasons... Ps3 had the best year, why can people get over that? :/ TreeMoBMoney
Actually, the PS3 didn't have the best year -- as I stated above, the winner overall for this year is the PC.

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#13 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

All year you have always used the PC to make sure there was no Winner, even in threads labelled PS3 Vs. 360, or 360 Vs Wii Vs. PS3.

Now this guy make sa thread, and it's kind of true.

Hmm....for shame.

Stevo_the_gamer

Yes, winner overall. But the last great exclusive the PC had was hearts of iron 3 back in August. For the fall of 2009, the Xbox 360 looks to be the winner. This is what this thread is about, right? The Fall of 2009?

Yeah, but you are saying this DLC is going to count, when in reality, when it's released on Disc is when it will count.Who's to say what a AAA score means for DLC? Just comparing it to full retail games is silly, like when Braid was compared to Super Mario Galaxy.

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#14 Lethargika
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I think we should stick with annual increments.....this seasonal stuff is kinda funny though. :)

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#15 tastetheacidmil
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another thread grasping for AAAs, shame they only got 2 this year
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Yeah, but you are saying this DLC is going to count, when in reality, when it's released on Disc is when it will count.Who's to say what a AAA score means for DLC? Just comparing it to full retail games is silly, like when Braid was compared to Super Mario Galaxy.

SolidTy

Comparing to full retail games is silly? Gamespot sure doesn't think so.

  • "This superb downloadable episode for GTAIV would be easy to recommend even if it were a full retail product selling for three times its actual price."
  • "More new content than many full-priced games. "
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#17 Sollet
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Last time I checked 4 > 3 :) TC go back to school will ya!
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Yeah, but you are saying this DLC is going to count, when in reality, when it's released on Disc is when it will count.Who's to say what a AAA score means for DLC? Just comparing it to full retail games is silly, like when Braid was compared to Super Mario Galaxy.

Stevo_the_gamer

Comparing to full retail games is silly? Gamespot sure doesn't think so.

  • "This superb downloadable episode for GTAIV would be easy to recommend even if it were a full retail product selling for three times its actual price."
  • "More new content than many full-priced games. "

Like I didn't see Bioshockownz throwing those around earlier.

Yeah, I read the review.

Someone better tell Rockstar, they obviously have a $60 game here, and they are screwing this whole thing up.

Heck, it was probably reviewed on full retail standards, I'm sure.

I guess we figured out the deal though, due to Gamespot's Reviewer. Thank goodness.

Maybe if this is handled right, when Episodes is released, and if that get's reviewed, we can just keep getting scores over and over. It's going to be wonderful.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

All year you have always used the PC to make sure there was no Winner, even in threads labelled PS3 Vs. 360, or 360 Vs Wii Vs. PS3.

Now this guy make sa thread, and it's kind of true.

Hmm....for shame.

SolidTy

Yes, winner overall. But the last great exclusive the PC had was hearts of iron 3 back in August. For the fall of 2009, the Xbox 360 looks to be the winner. This is what this thread is about, right? The Fall of 2009?

Yeah, but you are saying this DLC is going to count, when in reality, when it's released on Disc is when it will count.Who's to say what a AAA score means for DLC? Just comparing it to full retail games is silly, like when Braid was compared to Super Mario Galaxy.

I don't mean to butt in on the conversation, but for one: Super Mario Galaxy and Braid are both comparable. A 9.5 stands for excellence and that is apparent when playing both Braid and Mario Galaxy. I could care less that Braid is a $15 XBLA and Galaxy is a $50 retail game. I enjoyed both and while I enjoyed Galaxy more I will always hold up the downloadable games on equal standing with the retail games. A game is a game, price doesn't matter, disc or no disc doesn't matter either and I don't care what the silly, unspoken rules of this place are with it's users. Quality is quality.

Also, wasn't it written in GameSpot's review that the game (Ballad of Gay Tony) would be easy to recommend to anyone even if it was a full retail game? That definitely sounds comparable to anything else out there doesn't it? It sure does to me.

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#20 PAL360
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Yep. Amazing fall for 360 !!! :D

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#21 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Like I didn't see Bioshockownz throwing those around earlier.

Yeah, I read the review.

Someone better tell Rockstar, they obviously have a $60 game here, and they are screwing this whole thing up.

Heck, it was probably reviewed on full retail standards, I'm sure.

I guess we figured out the deal though, due to Gamespot's Reviewer. Thank goodness.

SolidTy

Hard to miss it; very convincing quotes they are.

And,

Okay... ?

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#22 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yes, winner overall. But the last great exclusive the PC had was hearts of iron 3 back in August. For the fall of 2009, the Xbox 360 looks to be the winner. This is what this thread is about, right? The Fall of 2009?

NeonNinja

Yeah, but you are saying this DLC is going to count, when in reality, when it's released on Disc is when it will count.Who's to say what a AAA score means for DLC? Just comparing it to full retail games is silly, like when Braid was compared to Super Mario Galaxy.

I don't mean to butt in on the conversation, but for one: Super Mario Galaxy and Braid are both comparable. A 9.5 stands for excellence and that is apparent when playing both Braid and Mario Galaxy. I could care less that Braid is a $15 XBLA and Galaxy is a $50 retail game. I enjoyed both and while I enjoyed Galaxy more I will always hold up the downloadable games on equal standing with the retail games. A game is a game, price doesn't matter, disc or no disc doesn't matter either and I don't care what the silly, unspoken rules of this place are with it's users. Quality is quality.

Also, wasn't it written in GameSpot's review that the game (Ballad of Gay Tony) would be easy to recommend to anyone even if it was a full retail game? That definitely sounds comparable to anything else out there doesn't it? It sure does to me.

They obviously weren't reviewed with the same standards. We all know this, so comparing is silly. BTW, I beat Braid the first night I DL'ed it, but guess what, I would review it highly because DL are reviewed differently.

A game is a game, BUT PRICE Does absolutely matter. Of course Quality is Quality, but all Quality is NOT EQUAL.

You are latching to a score as if the scores were done evenly, ther weren't. This subject has been done to death in SW, but comparing Braid to SMG is silly. Sorry. I will never agree otherwise, especially as an owner to both games.

Factor in that Episodes is coming in Disc form, and this get messy.

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#23 gamewhat
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Is this damage control from UC2. You know if a game scares you so bad then why don't you try to play it at a friends house. It's a game for Pete Sakes, it's not gonna hurt you.

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#24 topgunmv
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Why does DLC not count? Especially when most of it gets reviewed?

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#25 Panosola
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Amazing.......XBOX 360 is the best game console.Forza 3 is the best racing game and i can't wait for Halo:REACH and Gears of War 3.8)

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#26 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Yeah, but you are saying this DLC is going to count, when in reality, when it's released on Disc is when it will count.Who's to say what a AAA score means for DLC? Just comparing it to full retail games is silly, like when Braid was compared to Super Mario Galaxy.

SolidTy

I don't mean to butt in on the conversation, but for one: Super Mario Galaxy and Braid are both comparable. A 9.5 stands for excellence and that is apparent when playing both Braid and Mario Galaxy. I could care less that Braid is a $15 XBLA and Galaxy is a $50 retail game. I enjoyed both and while I enjoyed Galaxy more I will always hold up the downloadable games on equal standing with the retail games. A game is a game, price doesn't matter, disc or no disc doesn't matter either and I don't care what the silly, unspoken rules of this place are with it's users. Quality is quality.

Also, wasn't it written in GameSpot's review that the game (Ballad of Gay Tony) would be easy to recommend to anyone even if it was a full retail game? That definitely sounds comparable to anything else out there doesn't it? It sure does to me.

They obviously weren't reviewed with the same standards. We all know this, so comparing is silly. BTW, I beat Braid the first night I DL'ed it, but guess what, I would review it highly because DL are reviewed differently.

A game is a game, BUT PRICE Does absolutely matter. Of course Quality is Quality, but all Quality is NOT EQUAL.

You are latching to a score as if the scores were done evenly, ther weren't. This subject has been done to death in SW, but comparing Braid to SMG is silly. Sorry. I will never agree otherwise, especially as an owner to both games.

I don't really care about the scores, I just used it to state that a 9.5 is quality. I could care less what any of these games score, I'll always play what I enjoy.

You saying that you think comparing a download game to a retail game is silly is your opinion and I won't try to sway that, but I will make you twist your rules to accept the Ballad of Gay Tony as otherwise.

However, and it's 3 AM here, so I may be a bit groggy right now, I'd like to set this up for you.

We are on GS forums.

We are talking about games that have been reviewed and given scores over a 9 on GS.

GS says that this game is comparable to any $60 game.

And somehow it doesn't count? And it doesn't count because you believe they've been reviewed with different standards? I say games are games. I could care less about GTA, never played one before, but I believe a game is a game and it should be judged as just that: a game. Not price, not if it's retail or download but based on if it's fun or not. Again, these are just differing opinions we have on the matter, but if GS finds it good enough to put these DLC titles up for GotY awards (remember Braid nominated as Best 360 game and Overall GotY?), than I believe they count. I believe a game is a game and I myself rate them based on how much I enjoy them. And I get the feeling GS does it the same way.

In fact, I'd like to go so far as to say that price is never considered for reviews but in fact it's the amount of content looked at for the game. One example is ODST, it was billed as $40 game came out $60, earned a 9 and it's because there's enough content in it to make it a total blast. I know this is just an assumption, but I believe ODST would have scored a 9.0 wether it was $40 or $60. It's content we look at, and from there we can look at the price. Is there enough content to justify the price? If the content's there, the game does well.

Quality is quality. It's a simple little saying and I use it as just that for myself to set my own standards.

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#27 Malta_1980
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Only Forza3 is worth listing, DLC for GTA4 are surely welcome by fans but in all honesty I wanted full (new or sequels) retail games... with the exception of Forza3 & maybe Halo:ODST there was nothing else worth listing this year which was exclusively available on 360..

So again for those who are somehow trying to spin things, 360 had a good year (counting downloadable games,DLC, multiplats & Exclusives) but far from being on par with competition..

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Yeah, but you are saying this DLC is going to count, when in reality, when it's released on Disc is when it will count.Who's to say what a AAA score means for DLC? Just comparing it to full retail games is silly, like when Braid was compared to Super Mario Galaxy.

Stevo_the_gamer

Comparing to full retail games is silly? Gamespot sure doesn't think so.

  • "This superb downloadable episode for GTAIV would be easy to recommend even if it were a full retail product selling for three times its actual price."
  • "More new content than many full-priced games. "

The advert on Gametrailers even calls "The Lost & The Damned" & "The Ballad of HAPPY Tony"...... "2 COMPLETE GAMES"

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#29 fuchuzz
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well, actually no, they did not win this fall. An expansion pack, a 5 hour game, and a racing sim don't add up to what the ps3 has got.

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#30 -Karmum-
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3 AAAEs in 1 month thats amzing

and 2 games got 9.5, looks like U2 dont kill the 360 lineup after all.

looks like the 360 ownd this fall and even this year IMO (if you count LAD and L4D2)

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You want to count a potential L4D2 as AAA? Then count MLB 09, sorry. Can you play MLB 09 on a 360? No, but it's on more than one Sony console. Can you play L4D2 on a PS3? No, but it's on the PC too. Doesn't work one way, you have to have it both. L&D? No, that isn't AAA either. So I say a good "No" to you.
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You want to count a potential L4D2 as AAA? Then count MLB 09, sorry. Can you play MLB 09 on a 360? No, but it's on more than one Sony console. Can you play L4D2 on a PS3? No, but it's on the PC too. Doesn't work one way, you have to have it both. L&D? No, that isn't AAA either. So I say a good "No" to you.-Karmum-

I don't think MLB the Show is in the "Fall". :P

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#32 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Ps3

2 AAA games

360

2 AAA games and a DLC that got AAA

i would go with the ps3

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#33 RadecSupreme
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LOL so lemmings are now trying to seperate season line-ups to win something? Its pretty sad, because what really matters is the whole year and PS3 won that.

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#34 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Ps3

2 AAA games

360

2 AAA games and a DLC that got AAA

i would go with the ps3

toast_burner

Expansion would fit Bogt far better than DLC.

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#35 joel_c17
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Since when has DLC been counted as a full game? god fanboys are really grasping at straws :( this is sad for humanity
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#36 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Ps3

2 AAA games

360

2 AAA games and a DLC that got AAA

i would go with the ps3

Expansion would fit Bogt far better than DLC.

same thing
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Since when has DLC been counted as a full game? god fanboys are really grasping at straws :( this is sad for humanityjoel_c17
BoGT is an expansion, and expansions have ALWAYS counted.
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#38 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"] same thing

So horse armor is the same thing as BoGT?
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So theoretically, if Lost and Damned got a 9, Ballad of Gay Tony got a 9.5, and Episodes from liberty City got a 9.5, that would be three AAAE's for the 360? Not sure I go with that logic tbh.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"] same thingStevo_the_gamer
So horse armor is the same thing as BoGT?

No im just saying an expansion is a form of DLC. im not trying to argue here i just ddnt see the problem with what i wrote and now i know to chosse my words better.
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#41 Sollet
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So theoretically, if Lost and Damned got a 9, Ballad of Gay Tony got a 9.5, and Episodes from liberty City got a 9.5, that would be three AAAE's for the 360? Not sure I go with that logic tbh.Elutheria
Seems to be TCs logic yer speaking of.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Ps3

2 AAA games

360

2 AAA games and a DLC that got AAA

i would go with the ps3

GS said its better then a full game so no its not a DLC "This superb downloadable episode for GTAIV would be easy to recommend even if it were a full retail product selling for three times its actual price." "More new content than many full-priced games. "
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[QUOTE="Elutheria"]So theoretically, if Lost and Damned got a 9, Ballad of Gay Tony got a 9.5, and Episodes from liberty City got a 9.5, that would be three AAAE's for the 360? Not sure I go with that logic tbh.Sollet
Seems to be TCs logic yer speaking of.

The bad thing is lots of people are going with TCs logic
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So theoretically, if Lost and Damned got a 9, Ballad of Gay Tony got a 9.5, and Episodes from liberty City got a 9.5, that would be three AAAE's for the 360? Not sure I go with that logic tbh.Elutheria
The collective opinion would be to count only the two AAAEs, or just count Episodes from Liberty City as one AAAE overall. I doubt we would see anyone seriously thinking that all three would count -- now that would be silly. :P
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[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"]Sure if you wanna get low and start fighting about seasons... Ps3 had the best year, why can people get over that? :/ Stevo_the_gamer

Actually, the PS3 didn't have the best year -- as I stated above, the winner overall for this year is the PC.

I think most people judge this winner of the year on the number of AAAE games that had come out. :) Which according to Gamespot, also your own 2009 "AAAA/AAA/AA/A/B" List, the PS3 is the winner. Just putting it out their. I mean, 4 AAAE > 1AAAE. Which is how YOU thought before, right? "That's actually kind of true, afterall, 3 AAAE > 2 AAAE and 1 AAE." Can't change your point of view now. :S
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Lemmings are so insecure about their bricked systems that they're twisting winners and losers by seasons now?

Pathetic.

Face it lemmings: a Halo 3 expansion pack (butbutbut firefightz modez!), a GTA4 DLC (butbutbut it will comez onto disc soon!), and a half-decent racing Sim is nowhere close enough to for the brickbox360 to reign superiority for this year or this fall.

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[QUOTE="Elutheria"]So theoretically, if Lost and Damned got a 9, Ballad of Gay Tony got a 9.5, and Episodes from liberty City got a 9.5, that would be three AAAE's for the 360? Not sure I go with that logic tbh.Stevo_the_gamer
The collective opinion would be to count only the two AAAEs, or just count Episodes from Liberty City as one AAAE overall. I doubt we would see anyone seriously thinking that all three would count -- now that would be silly. :P

Now the question is, do we count them as two seperate games or one game? Seeing as the retail game comes with both of them in one. It should be one game, otherwise it would just be DLC and won't be counted as a full game. How do lemmings want it? Two DLC AAAE for their console, nothing to brag about when it comes to whose exclusives are kicking whose, though it is an advantage. Or do lemmings want it counted as an expansion pack which is released on disk which will make it a an AAAE exclusive full title for the Xbox 360. Expansions seems to count here, DLC doesn't. It can't be counted as three seperate games, that would just be lemmings stretching it far, as in so far it reaches the China.
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I think most people judge this winner of the year on the number of AAAE games that had come out. :)

Which according to Gamespot, also your own 2009 "AAAA/AAA/AA/A/B" List, the PS3 is the winner. Just putting it out their. I mean, 4 AAAE > 1AAAE.

Which is how YOU thought before, right? "That's actually kind of true, afterall, 3 AAAE > 2 AAAE and 1 AAE." Can't change your point of view now. :S vanheusen

Good thing AAAs are NOT the only thing that matters.

I would never say 4 AAAEs are superior to 11 AEs, 12 AAEs and 1 AAAEs.

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Lemmings are so insecure about their bricked systems that they're twisting winners and losers by seasons now?

Pathetic.

Face it lemmings: a Halo 3 expansion pack (butbutbut firefightz modez!), a GTA4 DLC (butbutbut it will comez onto disc soon!), and a half-decent racing Sim is nowhere close enough to for the brickbox360 to reign superiority for this year or this fall.

ndawgdrake

1. Expansions are counted here.

2. That "half-decent racing Sim" is one of the best Sim Racers ever.

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[QUOTE="vanheusen"] I think most people judge this winner of the year on the number of AAAE games that had come out. :)

Which according to Gamespot, also your own 2009 "AAAA/AAA/AA/A/B" List, the PS3 is the winner. Just putting it out their. I mean, 4 AAAE > 1AAAE.

Which is how YOU thought before, right? "That's actually kind of true, afterall, 3 AAAE > 2 AAAE and 1 AAE." Can't change your point of view now. :S Stevo_the_gamer

Good thing AAAs are NOT the only thing that matters.

I would never say 4 AAAEs are superior to 11 AEs, 12 AAEs and 1 AAAEs.

lol, nice tuck.