Lost Nintendo customers

I'm just curious if there area lot of people like me who used to be hardcore Nintendo fans (the name Nintendo was synonymas with video games back in the 80's early 90's). I was wondering if you'd like to share your stories of what made you turn, or if you stayed with them for the long run.

Myself, I was all about everything Nintendo did, UNTIL, Legend of Zelda, Twilight Princess was delayed for the umteenth time on Gamecube, even then I held my allegience, until I heard they were contemplating only bringing it to the revolution. That did it for me, I sold my Gamecube, and turned my back on video games completely for a while because of that. The whole reason I wanted a Gamecube was for that game, arg.

Now I think my anger has turned down a few notches, I've had a lot of fun with my PS3 this year and was thinking the only thing that could enhance my gaming experience right now would be to get a Wii, so I could go back and play all those fun games again. I think the N64 had the best games of any system for it's time.

Anyway, anybody else?

i feel the same thing with the N64, btw Zelda TP came out for the gamecube

i feel the same thing with the N64, btw Zelda TP came out for the gamecube

JuarN18

Yeah, I know, just a year and 4 delays to late for me.

I'm just curious if there area lot of people like me who used to be hardcore Nintendo fans (the name Nintendo was synonymas with video games back in the 80's early 90's). I was wondering if you'd like to share your stories of what made you turn, or if you stayed with them for the long run.

Myself, I was all about everything Nintendo did, UNTIL, Legend of Zelda, Twilight Princess was delayed for the umteenth time on Gamecube, even then I held my allegience, until I heard they were contemplating only bringing it to the revolution. That did it for me, I sold my Gamecube, and turned my back on video games completely for a while because of that. The whole reason I wanted a Gamecube was for that game, arg.

Now I think my anger has turned down a few notches, I've had a lot of fun with my PS3 this year and was thinking the only thing that could enhance my gaming experience right now would be to get a Wii, so I could go back and play all those fun games again. I think the N64 had the best games of any system for it's time.

Anyway, anybody else?

vegetattack15

[QUOTE="vegetattack15"]

I'm just curious if there area lot of people like me who used to be hardcore Nintendo fans (the name Nintendo was synonymas with video games back in the 80's early 90's). I was wondering if you'd like to share your stories of what made you turn, or if you stayed with them for the long run.

Myself, I was all about everything Nintendo did, UNTIL, Legend of Zelda, Twilight Princess was delayed for the umteenth time on Gamecube, even then I held my allegience, until I heard they were contemplating only bringing it to the revolution. That did it for me, I sold my Gamecube, and turned my back on video games completely for a while because of that. The whole reason I wanted a Gamecube was for that game, arg.

Now I think my anger has turned down a few notches, I've had a lot of fun with my PS3 this year and was thinking the only thing that could enhance my gaming experience right now would be to get a Wii, so I could go back and play all those fun games again. I think the N64 had the best games of any system for it's time.

Anyway, anybody else?

too_much_eslim

WHAT!@? I mean, it didn't quited leave you with that... "Epic" feeling like Ocarina of Time did and the controls definitely could've been better, but none the less it was an incredible experience. Sure it got a little derivitive but the boss battles and interesting story just kept you so engaged.

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="vegetattack15"]

I'm just curious if there area lot of people like me who used to be hardcore Nintendo fans (the name Nintendo was synonymas with video games back in the 80's early 90's). I was wondering if you'd like to share your stories of what made you turn, or if you stayed with them for the long run.

Myself, I was all about everything Nintendo did, UNTIL, Legend of Zelda, Twilight Princess was delayed for the umteenth time on Gamecube, even then I held my allegience, until I heard they were contemplating only bringing it to the revolution. That did it for me, I sold my Gamecube, and turned my back on video games completely for a while because of that. The whole reason I wanted a Gamecube was for that game, arg.

Now I think my anger has turned down a few notches, I've had a lot of fun with my PS3 this year and was thinking the only thing that could enhance my gaming experience right now would be to get a Wii, so I could go back and play all those fun games again. I think the N64 had the best games of any system for it's time.

Anyway, anybody else?

7arek

WHAT!@? I mean, it didn't quited leave you with that... "Epic" feeling like Ocarina of Time did and the controls definitely could've been better, but none the less it was an incredible experience. Sure it got a little derivitive but the boss battles and interesting story just kept you so engaged.

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

yoshi_64

I think TP WAS the worst, it din't feel fresh, OoT revolutionary, Majoras Mask was an AWESOME post OoT Zelda Game, Wind Waker took many by surprise and turned out to be very great. With this trend of innovation you can only expect the same from TP, but something about it seemed, "been there done that" Absolutely the worst 3d Zelda IMO

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

yoshi_64

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

GrandpaDeath

I think TP WAS the worst, it din't feel fresh, OoT revolutionary, Majoras Mask was an AWESOME post OoT Zelda Game, Wind Waker took many by surprise and turned out to be very great. With this trend of innovation you can only expect the same from TP, but something about it seemed, "been there done that" Absolutely the worst 3d Zelda IMO

I used to be a 100% Nintendo supporter, but that was when they made real games and not just mini games with the occasional good first party game.Solid_Link22

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

GrandpaDeath

I think TP WAS the worst, it din't feel fresh, OoT revolutionary, Majoras Mask was an AWESOME post OoT Zelda Game, Wind Waker took many by surprise and turned out to be very great. With this trend of innovation you can only expect the same from TP, but something about it seemed, "been there done that" Absolutely the worst 3d Zelda IMO

It does show the series could use a refreshing change, then PH comes on the DS and proves that, but TP certainly wasn't terrible by any means IMHO. Not even the worst. I honestly think it's tied a bit with OoT in some senses. I don't even consider OoT to be the "best in the series" honestly either. MM had more emotion and a more original storyline than OoT. WW took the emotion from MM and times it by ten, creating a world that felt like a living cartoon. TP stayed on the OoT side, but at least it did offer up a hero with more emotion and characters who had more meaning to this Link than OoT Link.

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

too_much_eslim

Second, I think you are perhaps not so... sure of what you wanted. You said you hated how it had no musical instrument... Wll quite frankly, no Zelda game was ever truly about it. MM and OoT had the Ocarina, and WW had a Conductor's Baton. (Not really musical.) It was said Animals would be the focus of this game, and they used them nicely. I suppose it doesn't seem so alluring and mysterious like a setting with a magical instrument that controls time and other laws of nature. But hey... it was nice and I enjoyed the aspect of animals being the focal point here.

Also.. well... look at the other things I said in reply to the other guy, it's basically what I have to say.

It does show the series could use a refreshing change, then PH comes on the DS and proves that, but TP certainly wasn't terrible by any means IMHO. Not even the worst. I honestly think it's tied a bit with OoT in some senses. I don't even consider OoT to be the "best in the series" honestly either. MM had more emotion and a more original storyline than OoT. WW took the emotion from MM and times it by ten, creating a world that felt like a living cartoon. TP stayed on the OoT side, but at least it did offer up a hero with more emotion and characters who had more meaning to this Link than OoT Link.

Just out of curiousity what would you say was the worst 3d zelda?

I'm glad I was never a big Nintendo fan. Sure I enjoyed their games on the N64 and the Gamecube, but in the end they kind of let down their fanbase this gen.

It started last gen by only releasing sequals and no new IPs, not to mention discontinuing many old IPs (Donkey Kong anybody?). Then they lost RE4 to the PS2 and now they aren't even getting RE5. This gen we also see a lack of care for their fanbase. Very few actual games geared towards hardcore Nintendo fans are coming out and they have completely turned their back on every other part of gaming that has become big (online mostly).

Nintendo has really gotten a big head and has gotten drunk with money. They no longer cater towards their fanbase. Instead they are moving in a direction I cannot follow.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

yoshi_64

Second, I think you are perhaps not so... sure of what you wanted. You said you hated how it had no musical instrument... Wll quite frankly, no Zelda game was ever truly about it. MM and OoT had the Ocarina, and WW had a Conductor's Baton. (Not really musical.) It was said Animals would be the focus of this game, and they used them nicely. I suppose it doesn't seem so alluring and mysterious like a setting with a magical instrument that controls time and other laws of nature. But hey... it was nice and I enjoyed the aspect of animals being the focal point here.

Also.. well... look at the other things I said in reply to the other guy, it's basically what I have to say.

Just out of curiousity what would you say was the worst 3d zelda?

GrandpaDeath

Character development, storyline and story telling, gameplay, and musical score amongst a few other things. OoT has a better soundtrack than TP I felt, but TP had some better characters and more emotion in it than OoT did. I could explain in deeper detail, but I said a few in my points up above to my responce with Eslim.

GrandpaDeath

It does show the series could use a refreshing change, then PH comes on the DS and proves that, but TP certainly wasn't terrible by any means IMHO. Not even the worst. I honestly think it's tied a bit with OoT in some senses. I don't even consider OoT to be the "best in the series" honestly either. MM had more emotion and a more original storyline than OoT. WW took the emotion from MM and times it by ten, creating a world that felt like a living cartoon. TP stayed on the OoT side, but at least it did offer up a hero with more emotion and characters who had more meaning to this Link than OoT Link.

Just out of curiousity what would you say was the worst 3d zelda?

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

too_much_eslim

If not count handhelds Majoras mask was worse zelda ever, didnt like time travel at all. TP was far from a trash game.

[QUOTE="GrandpaDeath"]

Just out of curiousity what would you say was the worst 3d zelda?

yoshi_64

Character development, storyline and story telling, gameplay, and musical score amongst a few other things. OoT has a better soundtrack than TP I felt, but TP had some better characters and more emotion in it than OoT did. I could explain in deeper detail, but I said a few in my points up above to my responce with Eslim.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

aroxx_ab

If not count handhelds Majoras mask was worse zelda ever, didnt like time travel at all. TP was far from a trash game.

[QUOTE="GrandpaDeath"]

Just out of curiousity what would you say was the worst 3d zelda?

yoshi_64

Character development, storyline and story telling, gameplay, and musical score amongst a few other things. OoT has a better soundtrack than TP I felt, but TP had some better characters and more emotion in it than OoT did. I could explain in deeper detail, but I said a few in my points up above to my responce with Eslim.

O_O did you say your least favoured Zelda game is OoT? Your right about one thing, I didn't mean worst as if ANY of them were bad I guess it woulda been better to choose the term "least favoured" As TP is my least favoured (seems like the only Zelda Game I can go without playing through again). But OoT is your least favoured. Man I dunno what to say, I'm pretty sure your one of very few Zelda fans that would say OoT was their least favourite Zelda game or at the very least, that TP is better than OoT.

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="GrandpaDeath"]

Just out of curiousity what would you say was the worst 3d zelda?

GrandpaDeath

Character development, storyline and story telling, gameplay, and musical score amongst a few other things. OoT has a better soundtrack than TP I felt, but TP had some better characters and more emotion in it than OoT did. I could explain in deeper detail, but I said a few in my points up above to my responce with Eslim.

O_O did you say your least favoured Zelda game is OoT? Your right about one thing, I didn't mean worst as if ANY of them were bad I guess it woulda been better to choose the term "least favoured" As TP is my least favoured (seems like the only Zelda Game I can go without playing through again). But OoT is your least favoured. Man I dunno what to say, I'm pretty sure your one of very few Zelda fans that would say OoT was their least favourite Zelda game or at the very least, that TP is better than OoT.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

too_much_eslim

If not count handhelds Majoras mask was worse zelda ever, didnt like time travel at all. TP was far from a trash game.

didnt felt the same, in Oot it was just 2 different times and Link to a past" just had a paralell/dark world. Majoras mask you had to jump around many different clock times and that was boring.

Not discrediting what your saying, but ooT was the blueprint. While yes other games improved upon some areas and are in some cases better there is no way OoT should be last when taking about the 3D zeldas.too_much_eslim

See, I don't think TP is truly better or worst, but OoT at times... while I love it to death, in the way I look at Zelda it has become a bit less of what the other Zelda games have mentioned. That's what I mean. MM had a darker storyline, and all the characters and NPCs in the game had stories to tell and follow, and were livelier than OoT had. TP basically had the same with Illia and Midna being some great support characters, and OoT didn't really have that. Now it depends on how you really look at it, but because of that I give TP the nudge above OoT. That's it... just a nudge.

O_O did you say your least favoured Zelda game is OoT? Your right about one thing, I didn't mean worst as if ANY of them were bad I guess it woulda been better to choose the term "least favoured" As TP is my least favoured (seems like the only Zelda Game I can go without playing through again). But OoT is your least favoured. Man I dunno what to say, I'm pretty sure your one of very few Zelda fans that would say OoT was their least favourite Zelda game or at the very least, that TP is better than OoT.

GrandpaDeath

OoT Link really had no one. Even Navi wasn't given really any story, just a fairy sent by the Deku Tree to guide you. She had no real personality though, as opposed to Tatl in MM who at least had more story and personality even in her advice for enemies.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] Not discrediting what your saying, but ooT was the blueprint. While yes other games improved upon some areas and are in some cases better there is no way OoT should be last when taking about the 3D zeldas.yoshi_64

See, I don't think TP is truly better or worst, but OoT at times... while I love it to death, in the way I look at Zelda it has become a bit less of what the other Zelda games have mentioned. That's what I mean. MM had a darker storyline, and all the characters and NPCs in the game had stories to tell and follow, and were livelier than OoT had. TP basically had the same with Illia and Midna being some great support characters, and OoT didn't really have that. Now it depends on how you really look at it, but because of that I give TP the nudge above OoT. That's it... just a nudge.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="aroxx_ab"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

Worst, Eslim? :| Well you're allowed your opinions I suppose.

Anyways, I haven't turned and don't seem to be yet. Then again, I don't make any "allegiance" with companies, I just play the games more so. Hoping for a PS3 soon, but don't expect one this holiday season...

aroxx_ab

If not count handhelds Majoras mask was worse zelda ever, didnt like time travel at all. TP was far from a trash game.

didnt felt the same, in Oot it was just 2 different times and Link to a past" just had a paralell/dark world. Majoras mask you had to jump around many different clock times and that was boring.

Well he said it was a tie between OoT and TP and that they are both in last place. I find it hard to believe also how such a revolutionary game in its time could ever be in last place.too_much_eslim

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] Well he said it was a tie between OoT and TP and that they are both in last place. I find it hard to believe also how such a revolutionary game in its time could ever be in last place.yoshi_64

See here is my problem TP was just way too easy and in the begining way too boring for me to even make a comparison. OoT just had more life to the game. It was challenging and every level even the ultra hard water level was fun. Every level and every boss battle in TP was a joke.Midna I liked. I be lieing if I said I ddin't but overall the game was just bad. I hope to see midna again.too_much_eslim

Quite frankly, TP did have it's moments for me and I felt it was great, and the characters with it that helped suppor the emotion to it made it a really fantastic game for me. Sure, I didn't die in TP, and the bosses weakness were not hard to get to, but like I said... anyone who's played Zelda before knows what to expect, especially OoT. It was, as you said, the blueprint for all other Zelda games, and I hope Nintendo can rework that print for the Wii Zelda game like they took PH and rewrote it for the DS a bit and made it engaging and refreshing.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] See here is my problem TP was just way too easy and in the begining way too boring for me to even make a comparison. OoT just had more life to the game. It was challenging and every level even the ultra hard water level was fun. Every level and every boss battle in TP was a joke.Midna I liked. I be lieing if I said I ddin't but overall the game was just bad. I hope to see midna again.yoshi_64

Quite frankly, TP did have it's moments for me and I felt it was great, and the characters with it that helped suppor the emotion to it made it a really fantastic game for me. Sure, I didn't die in TP, and the bosses weakness were not hard to get to, but like I said... anyone who's played Zelda before knows what to expect, especially OoT. It was, as you said, the blueprint for all other Zelda games, and I hope Nintendo can rework that print for the Wii Zelda game like they took PH and rewrote it for the DS a bit and made it engaging and refreshing.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] Well he said it was a tie between OoT and TP and that they are both in last place. I find it hard to believe also how such a revolutionary game in its time could ever be in last place.yoshi_64

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] See here is my problem TP was just way too easy and in the begining way too boring for me to even make a comparison. OoT just had more life to the game. It was challenging and every level even the ultra hard water level was fun. Every level and every boss battle in TP was a joke.Midna I liked. I be lieing if I said I ddin't but overall the game was just bad. I hope to see midna again.too_much_eslim

Quite frankly, TP did have it's moments for me and I felt it was great, and the characters with it that helped suppor the emotion to it made it a really fantastic game for me. Sure, I didn't die in TP, and the bosses weakness were not hard to get to, but like I said... anyone who's played Zelda before knows what to expect, especially OoT. It was, as you said, the blueprint for all other Zelda games, and I hope Nintendo can rework that print for the Wii Zelda game like they took PH and rewrote it for the DS a bit and made it engaging and refreshing.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] See here is my problem TP was just way too easy and in the begining way too boring for me to even make a comparison. OoT just had more life to the game. It was challenging and every level even the ultra hard water level was fun. Every level and every boss battle in TP was a joke.Midna I liked. I be lieing if I said I ddin't but overall the game was just bad. I hope to see midna again.yoshi_64

Quite frankly, TP did have it's moments for me and I felt it was great, and the characters with it that helped suppor the emotion to it made it a really fantastic game for me. Sure, I didn't die in TP, and the bosses weakness were not hard to get to, but like I said... anyone who's played Zelda before knows what to expect, especially OoT. It was, as you said, the blueprint for all other Zelda games, and I hope Nintendo can rework that print for the Wii Zelda game like they took PH and rewrote it for the DS a bit and made it engaging and refreshing.

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] Well he said it was a tie between OoT and TP and that they are both in last place. I find it hard to believe also how such a revolutionary game in its time could ever be in last place.too_much_eslim

I have a very different story actually.

I started losing faith in Nintendo during the Gamecube era, mainly because of the lack of good games for it. Here are the only games that I thought were worth anything for that system: RE, RE0, Zelda Windwaker, and Super Smash Bros. Melee. That's it, 4 games! I would have this system far more if it had much better games then it did. But I have to say my faith in Nintendo is being rekindled because of the Wii. So far in its one year run there have been more worthwhile games then the entire 6 years the Gamecube has been out.

I would also like to add that this generations flop in my opinion has been the PS3. This system is way to pricy and its library is mediocre at best. This is a huge step back from the PS2 which a truly believed was the greatest system of the previous generation and somewhere in the top 3 of all time.

So all I have to say to the overall topic of this thread is that I believe Nintendo is redeeming itself with the Wii, while the PS3 is turning a Legend into a joke.

I was a Nintendo fan. Nintendo was the best in the NES and Super NES age. Then things started to go wrong when they released the N64 with cartridge format (like the AVG would say, "what were they thinking!"). I decided not to buy the N64, and although it did have some nice exclusives, i don't regreat it. Same story with the GC. Nintendo releases it without DVD capabilities and almost no online gaming. But i bought a GC, and yet again, i don't regret it, but simply because i could not go without Resident Evil. The Wii is doing amazig, as far as sales goes, but in the game library department it is just not a system for me, and it doesnt help that its main selling point, the wiimote, doesnt appeal to me at all. So, like the N64, i'll not buy it, nad most probably will not regret it.

Well, that is it.

I was a Nintendo fan. Nintendo was the best in the NES and Super NES age. Then things started to go wrong when they released the N64 with cartridge format (like the AVG would say, "what were they thinking!"). I decided not to buy the N64, and although it did have some nice exclusives, i don't regreat it. Same story with the GC. Nintendo releases it without DVD capabilities and almost no online gaming. But i bought a GC, and yet again, i don't regret it, but simply because i could not go without Resident Evil. The Wii is doing amazig, as far as sales goes, but in the game library department it is just not a system for me, and it doesnt help that its main selling point, the wiimote, doesnt appeal to me at all. So, like the N64, i'll not buy it, nad most probably will not regret it.

Well, that is it.

DanBal76

The first critical point was Rare being sold to Microsoft. The final blow was the Wii and my preference for 360.

I don't hate Nintendo at all, I just don't support their platform as much as the N64 or GC.

No, I'm just the opposite. I used to be a major Sony fan, but the PS3 has made me turn my back on them in favor of Nintendo and Microsoft (the latter being a company I used to loathe... still do to an extent).ThePlothole

I used to dislike the original Xbox, but the Xbox 360 is very impressive. I love my 360 on-par with my PS2. :)

I have a very different story actually.

I started losing faith in Nintendo during the Gamecube era, mainly because of the lack of good games for it. Here are the only games that I thought were worth anything for that system: RE, RE0, Zelda Windwaker, and Super Smash Bros. Melee. That's it, 4 games! I would have this system far more if it had much better games then it did. But I have to say my faith in Nintendo is being rekindled because of the Wii. So far in its one year run there have been more worthwhile games then the entire 6 years the Gamecube has been out.

I would also like to add that this generations flop in my opinion has been the PS3. This system is way to pricy and its library is mediocre at best. This is a huge step back from the PS2 which a truly believed was the greatest system of the previous generation and somewhere in the top 3 of all time.

So all I have to say to the overall topic of this thread is that I believe Nintendo is redeeming itself with the Wii, while the PS3 is turning a Legend into a joke.

Shenmue_Jehuty

That has yet to be seen, and is off topic about the PS3.

I think I am going to buy a Wii, more to play classic Nintendo games again then to play the new ones. Then I can better say if I think Nintendo redeamed themselves. Now I just have to find one...