Lying about resolution on 360/PS3

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#1 jkmetalf
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Full Auto 2: 1920x1080 AA 4x, bad framerate - PS3
NBA Street: 1920x1080 AA 4x (30-60fps) - 360
LocoRoco Cocoreccho 1920x1080 MSAA 2x -PS3
Tony Hawk Project 8: 1040x584 AA - 360
Tony Hawk Project 8: 1280x720 - PS3
Virtua Tennis 3: 1920x1080 AA 2x - PS3, 360
XMB: 1920x1080p - PS3
Dashboard: 1280x720p - 360
Perfect Dark Zero: 1138x640p - 360
Halo 3: 1152x640p - 360
Call of Duty 3: 1120x630p 360
Ninja Gaiden Sigma: 1280x720p PS3
Project Gotham Racing 3: 1024x600 360
Tomb Raider: 1024x600 360
Ridge Racer 7:
NBA 07: 1920x1080 - PS3
NBA 08: 1920x1080 - PS3
Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 600p - PS3
Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 720p - 360
GRAW2: 720p - PS3
GRAW2: 720p AA 2x - 360
Super Rub a Dub: 1600x1080 - PS3
GTHD: 1440x1080 - PS3
Super Stardust HD: 1280x1080 - PS3
Skate: 1536x864 - PS3
Skate: 1280x720 AA - 360
Bioshock: 1280x720 - 360
Harry Potter: 1280x720 MSAA 2x PS3 ?
Pixel Junk Racers: 1920x1080 PS3
Heavenly Sword: 1280x720 AA 4x PS3
Blast Factor Demo: 1920x1080 PS3
The Darkness Demo: 1024x576 PS3

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I'm no console hater, so I have nothing against consoles. However, telling the consumer that their games are 720p/1080p native is outright false advertising. I had little trust in what I read on the back of game box but now I have no trust it what is written on any game box.

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#2 dream431ca
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There is a fine line between native and scaled. Also, I don't think I've seen the word "native" on any game box to specifiy the native resolution. The Xbox 360 has a built in scalar so you technically don't need to say what resolution the game plays at on the box since what resolution you pick on the 360 is what you get (scaled).

The only game box that says "native resolution" is Resistance fall of man (I think). To my knowledge the PS3 doesn't have a built in scalar, but scaling can be done using software methods but, it's always better if the game is at the resolution it was meant to run on.

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#3 Citizen_Zero
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I run my X360 at 1280x1024, it's what my display settings and my monitor info say. Also in the Orange box it says I'm running at 1280x1024p. It's scaled but w/e it looks good enough to be called 1280x1024.
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There is a fine line between native and scaled. Also, I don't think I've seen the word "native" on any game box to specifiy the native resolution. The Xbox 360 has a built in scalar so you technically don't need to say what resolution the game plays at on the box since what resolution you pick on the 360 is what you get (scaled).

The only game box that says "native resolution" is Resistance fall of man (I think). To my knowledge the PS3 doesn't have a built in scalar, but scaling can be done using software methods but, it's always better if the game is at the resolution it was meant to run on.

dream431ca

wrong,according to B3D, both ps3, xb360 can upscale, even gt5p is a fake 1080P.no ture 1080p games with AA on this gen.

those devs just keep lying to us.

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#5 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

There is a fine line between native and scaled. Also, I don't think I've seen the word "native" on any game box to specifiy the native resolution. The Xbox 360 has a built in scalar so you technically don't need to say what resolution the game plays at on the box since what resolution you pick on the 360 is what you get (scaled).

The only game box that says "native resolution" is Resistance fall of man (I think). To my knowledge the PS3 doesn't have a built in scalar, but scaling can be done using software methods but, it's always better if the game is at the resolution it was meant to run on.

jrpgliker

wrong,according to B3D, both ps3, xb360 can upscale, even gt5p is a fake 1080P.no ture 1080p games with AA on this gen.

those devs just keep lying to us.

To my knowledge GT5P is full 1080p. MGS4 looks like it will be full 1080p as well.

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#6 jrpgliker
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gt5p is 1280x1080 , the same guy on B3D who unveal halo3 680P said.

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#7 Citizen_Zero
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gt5p is 1280x1080 , the same guy on B3D who unveal halo3 680P said.

jrpgliker


Link plz. Because i have never heard of 1280x1080, or is it just a typo?
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#8 winner-ps3
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why dont peolple here know this, its too obvious

dvd = native HD NOT possible (hence why we have bluray)

ps3 exclusives bluray games = native HD games (ps3 multi plat games not HD bc must also fit on dvds)

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#9 winner-ps3
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[QUOTE="jrpgliker"]

gt5p is 1280x1080 , the same guy on B3D who unveal halo3 680P said.

Citizen_Zero



Link plz. Because i have never heard of 1280x1080, or is it just a typo?

yes GT5 is 1080p

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#10 -wii60-
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why dont peolple here know this, its too obvious

dvd = native HD NOT possible (hence why we have bluray)

ps3 exclusives bluray games = native HD games (ps3 multi plat games not HD bc must also fit on dvds)

winner-ps3


Oh please cow get out of here u don't know what u're talking about.

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[QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"][QUOTE="jrpgliker"]

gt5p is 1280x1080 , the same guy on B3D who unveal halo3 680P said.

winner-ps3



Link plz. Because i have never heard of 1280x1080, or is it just a typo?

yes GT5 is 1080p



No.its not 1080p

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=43330&page=24
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For me, It's interesting to know these things, but I not too concerned.
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#13 rocktimusprime
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who really gives?

are the games fun?

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#14 GundamGuy0
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who really gives?

are the games fun?

rocktimusprime

People who say The Wii sucks because it's only 480p...

The tend to fight about those extra lines every so often...

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#15 jrpgliker
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why dont peolple here know this, its too obvious

dvd = native HD NOT possible (hence why we have bluray)

ps3 exclusives bluray games = native HD games (ps3 multi plat games not HD bc must also fit on dvds)

winner-ps3

that's one example how sony deceive marons.

this is game, not movie.

if your PC have a blueray driver , but 512mb RAM in total, and a old g70 gpu like ps3. can your pc run crysis at 1920x1080 with 60fps?????????:D

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yes but you'll have to set graphics into DOOM mode lol
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#17 jrpgliker
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sure , it can.

here is someone using nvidia mx440 running crysis

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#18 R4gn4r0k
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sure , it can.

here is someone using nvidia mx440 running crysis

jrpgliker


looks good enough

and WTF is 1280x1080 said somewhere in this thread ?
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Hey, No More Heroes scored 9.0. Too bad it's not HD. It's not even fake HD :?
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what's the use of so called 1080P native games if they have te same amount of detail as 720P games... textures just aren't up to it. this gen consoles just aren't up to it. let them focus on making the best game possible on 720P
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#21 trasherhead
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There is a fine line between native and scaled. Also, I don't think I've seen the word "native" on any game box to specifiy the native resolution. The Xbox 360 has a built in scalar so you technically don't need to say what resolution the game plays at on the box since what resolution you pick on the 360 is what you get (scaled).

The only game box that says "native resolution" is Resistance fall of man (I think). To my knowledge the PS3 doesn't have a built in scalar, but scaling can be done using software methods but, it's always better if the game is at the resolution it was meant to run on.

dream431ca

It has a scaler too.

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#22 doobie1975
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why dont peolple here know this, its too obvious

dvd = native HD NOT possible (hence why we have bluray)

ps3 exclusives bluray games = native HD games (ps3 multi plat games not HD bc must also fit on dvds)

winner-ps3

HD would be possible on dvd, only 2 or 3 mineuts of it but it would be possible. ITS JUST STORAGE SPACE.....

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#23 user_nat
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why dont peolple here know this, its too obvious

dvd = native HD NOT possible (hence why we have bluray)

ps3 exclusives bluray games = native HD games (ps3 multi plat games not HD bc must also fit on dvds)

winner-ps3

I hope you don't actually believe that..

You can put HD content on a floppy disk.. you just probably wouldn't even get a single frame on there because of size. All BluRay does is give it enough space to fit the HD.. it doesn't actually make something magically HD. And to get a game in HD size isn't even that much of an issue, unless you want lots of CGI movies in it.

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sure , it can.

here is someone using nvidia mx440 running crysis

jrpgliker

look like i can play crysis too : ).by the way dosent sigma run at 1080p

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#25 Grive
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why dont peolple here know this, its too obvious

dvd = native HD NOT possible (hence why we have bluray)

ps3 exclusives bluray games = native HD games (ps3 multi plat games not HD bc must also fit on dvds)

winner-ps3

No, just no. Tell me you're joking, please. Please. This has to be the single most disinformed HD-based argument EVER.

[QUOTE="jrpgliker"]

sure , it can.

here is someone using nvidia mx440 running crysis

R4gn4r0k



looks good enough

and WTF is 1280x1080 said somewhere in this thread ?

Vertical scaling is rather simple. Basically, GT5 renders a "squashed" version of the graphics (think of it as putting the screen in a vise and compressing it), thus saving a third of the rendering requirements, then uses the upscaler, which in the case of vertical-only scaling is a trivial proposition, to generate a 1920x1080 image.

It's frankly a good idea - in racing games the lost info is not particularly important or noticeable, and the allowed increase in performance in other areas is considerably superior to the detriment in resoultion. Honestly, I'd hope more racing games do this in order to increase the eye candy.

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#26 bmanva
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why dont peolple here know this, its too obvious

dvd = native HD NOT possible (hence why we have bluray)

ps3 exclusives bluray games = native HD games (ps3 multi plat games not HD bc must also fit on dvds)

winner-ps3

HA HA, let me put this into a language you can understand. "You epic fail"
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why dont peolple here know this, its too obvious

dvd = native HD NOT possible (hence why we have bluray)

ps3 exclusives bluray games = native HD games (ps3 multi plat games not HD bc must also fit on dvds)

winner-ps3

Why is it when these kind of ludicrous claims are made, the posters disappear when their claims are refuted? Are they cowards or fakeboys?

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#28 daveg1
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the pc is the only place you will get true resolutions..

consoles fail at them..

also most of the games on the list for 360/ps3 the 360 versions offer higher quality graphics at the higer res ..

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Nothing hard to understand for me, 480i :P
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#30 GARRYTH
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the pc is the only place you will get true resolutions..

consoles fail at them..

also most of the games on the list for 360/ps3 the 360 versions offer higher quality graphics at the higer res ..

daveg1

ha dave being that blind fan boy only one game on that list has better res than the ps 3 version. the rest of them have a higher res.

ps if your not a fanboy im sorry to call you one but blind yes you are.

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[QUOTE="jrpgliker"]

sure , it can.

here is someone using nvidia mx440 running crysis

fezano

look like i can play crysis too : ).by the way dosent sigma run at 1080p

upscaled i believe.
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#32 killab2oo5
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why dont peolple here know this, its too obvious

dvd = native HD NOT possible (hence why we have bluray)

ps3 exclusives bluray games = native HD games (ps3 multi plat games not HD bc must also fit on dvds)

winner-ps3
Hehe,thats quite sigable.
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#33 daveg1
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]

the pc is the only place you will get true resolutions..

consoles fail at them..

also most of the games on the list for 360/ps3 the 360 versions offer higher quality graphics at the higer res ..

GARRYTH

ha dave being that blind fan boy only one game on that list has better res than the ps 3 version. the rest of them have a higher res.

ps if your not a fanboy im sorry to call you one but blind yes you are.

and which versions have the best fps textures and more aa??