M$ are afraid to publish GPU specs

:lol:

They pulling a nintendo and just ignore hoping the lemmings don't realize PS4 GPU is 50% more powerfu.

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Chutebox

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The PS4 also has a dedicated bus that allows the GPU to read/write to system memory at 20GB/s (PCI Express 3.0 is 16GB/s)

Cloud Power > PS4

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killzowned24

It makes sense.  Considering how fast news spreads  and how far out of proportion things can get online, I would keep it under wraps as well.  The PS4 is already looking attractive in many ways, why would MS shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.

Cloud Power > PS4

Far_RockNYC

If you're being sarcastic then ignore my post.

But do people believe that cloud computing will show an immediate notable advantage for gaming?

i remember when killzoned wasn't here, good timesR3FURBISHED

Truth hurts?

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Cloud Power > PS4

sandbox3d

If you're being sarcastic then ignore my post.

But do people believe that cloud computing will show an immediate notable advantage for gaming?

Has cloud computing EVER provided an advantage? What other platform is using cloud computing for this kind of processing? I can't think of a single thing.

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sandbox3d

It makes sense.  Considering how fast news spreads  and how far out of proportion things can get online, I would keep it under wraps as well.  The PS4 is already looking attractive in many ways, why would MS shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.

but I agree its good for them lol

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]i remember when killzoned wasn't here, good timesStrongBlackVine

Truth hurts?

In what way, shape or form did you come to that conclusion? This is an irreverent troll thread using arbitrary figures to mask the fact that he is proving nothing.

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[QUOTE="killzowned24"] seriously.how sad is it that in 2013 you don't know specs of announced hardware lolkillzowned24

It makes sense.  Considering how fast news spreads  and how far out of proportion things can get online, I would keep it under wraps as well.  The PS4 is already looking attractive in many ways, why would MS shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.

Of course.  Maybe you missed the point of my post.  

To put it simply, its better for MS to say nothing than to confirm yet another weakness.

Oh, just saw your edit.

We agree then.  :P

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[QUOTE="killzowned24"] seriously.how sad is it that in 2013 you don't know specs of announced hardware lolkillzowned24

It makes sense.  Considering how fast news spreads  and how far out of proportion things can get online, I would keep it under wraps as well.  The PS4 is already looking attractive in many ways, why would MS shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.

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[QUOTE="killzowned24"] seriously.how sad is it that in 2013 you don't know specs of announced hardware lolkillzowned24

It makes sense.  Considering how fast news spreads  and how far out of proportion things can get online, I would keep it under wraps as well.  The PS4 is already looking attractive in many ways, why would MS shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.

but I agree its good for them lol

Microsoft has been hiding their specs behind the "CLOUD". Seriously, why don't they just tell us what the specs are?

Cloud Power > PS4

Far_RockNYC

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="Far_RockNYC"]

Cloud Power > PS4

dream431ca

If you're being sarcastic then ignore my post.

But do people believe that cloud computing will show an immediate notable advantage for gaming?

Has cloud computing EVER provided an advantage? What other platform is using cloud computing for this kind of processing? I can't think of a single thing.

I've only dealt with cloud computing in regards to render farms.  But with a render farm, latency doesn't matter at all.  Each frame is rendered to an individual image and stored in sequence for editing and compression later.

I don't see how cloud computing will benefit real time rendering anytime soon.

infinite powers from the cutting-edge Microsoft Cloud Technology, only possible on the Microsoft Xbox One. 

thats cool

right, we all know x1 is going to bomb-even though im getting one lol  , --because that horrendous price tag will scare the moms away 

i remember when killzoned wasn't here, good timesR3FURBISHED

infinite powers from the cutting-edge Microsoft Cloud Technology, only possible on the Microsoft Xbox One. 

KarateeeChop

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infinite powers from the cutting-edge Microsoft Cloud Technology, only possible on the Microsoft Xbox One. 

Tadgerot

I'm surprised you know what a GPU is. clyde46

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infinite powers from the cutting-edge Microsoft Cloud Technology, only possible on the Microsoft Xbox One. 

killzowned24

MUH CLOUD

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]i remember when killzoned wasn't here, good timeskillzowned24

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]i remember when killzoned wasn't here, good timesR3FURBISHED

Question - Would you ever buy something without knowing it's specs?  Would you buy an all in one gaming PC without knowing how powerful the GPU was?  All you knew was that it had 8gbs of mystery ram and 5 billion transitors,  or whatever that means?

Question - Would you ever buy something without knowing it's specs?  Would you buy an all in one gaming PC without knowing how powerful the GPU was?  All you knew was that it had 8gbs of mystery ram and 5 billion transitors,  or whatever that means?

DarthaPerkinjan

Question - Would you ever buy something without knowing it's specs?  Would you buy an all in one gaming PC without knowing how powerful the GPU was?  All you knew was that it had 8gbs of mystery ram and 5 billion transitors,  or whatever that means?

DarthaPerkinjan

If most consumers were told the specs, they probably wouldn't understand it.  They would judge the graphics and abilities off of reviews/commercials

:lol:

 

They pulling a nintendo and just ignore hoping the lemmings don't realize PS4 GPU is 50% more powerfu.

killzowned24

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:lol:

 

They pulling a nintendo and just ignore hoping the lemmings don't realize PS4 GPU is 50% more powerfu.

anshul89

  weaker and cost $100 more= ashamed hide in a corner and hope they don't find out :lol:

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The PS4 also has a dedicated bus that allows the GPU to read/write to system memory at 20GB/s (PCI Express 3.0 is 16GB/s)

PinkiePirate

I call BS on this. Did you make this up? 

Cloud Power > PS4

Far_RockNYC

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Cloud Power > PS4

sandbox3d

If you're being sarcastic then ignore my post.

But do people believe that cloud computing will show an immediate notable advantage for gaming?

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

Render Pipelines:

Xbox One: 16

PS4: 32

The PS4 also has a dedicated bus that allows the GPU to read/write to system memory at 20GB/s (PCI Express 3.0 is 16GB/s)

xhawk27

I call BS on this. Did you make this up? 

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[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

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Xbox One: 16

PS4: 32

The PS4 also has a dedicated bus that allows the GPU to read/write to system memory at 20GB/s (PCI Express 3.0 is 16GB/s)

killzowned24

I call BS on this. Did you make this up? 

Ok MS thought Sony was going to use only 4gb of Ram. The data move engines can use the CPU to make up for the lack of compute units. 

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I call BS on this. Did you make this up? 

xhawk27

Ok MS thought Sony was going to use only 4gb of Ram. The data move engines can use the CPU to make up for the lack of compute units. 

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[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

Render Pipelines:

Xbox One: 16

PS4: 32

The PS4 also has a dedicated bus that allows the GPU to read/write to system memory at 20GB/s (PCI Express 3.0 is 16GB/s)

killzowned24

I call BS on this. Did you make this up? 

This, and their DRM policy strongly make me believe Microsoft used several  Sony  insiders(spies) to construct their "battle" plan for next gen.

However, through double agents, or more likely internal miss information Sony was able to pull the wool over Microsoft.

Sounds like some crazy conspiricy, but it would explain allot of Microsoft's initial confidence over specs & DRM.

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sandbox3d

It makes sense.  Considering how fast news spreads  and how far out of proportion things can get online, I would keep it under wraps as well.  The PS4 is already looking attractive in many ways, why would MS shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.

True, they're in a bad spot, whatever they do, there'll be whining. The only thing left to do is go for the option where people will whine less.

If they know it's not as powerful, why would they boast about it. Plus right now, they don't need anymore negative news. 50% more powerful? Doubt it, only Sony said that. Everyone one else says 33%.

Also I just want to point out, while the cows are as usual falling for Sonys hype. IT'S A BLOODY APU. Lets be clear, they are designed to bring decent performance to affordable entry level computers... What you boast about, the PC gamer rightfully scoffs at. As much as I like APUs and plan on building a PC for someone with one, it is what it is and i'd stfu about it if I was you. Your CPU gets owned by good i5 and probably a low end one and your GPU isn't all that compared to the awesome dedicated GPUs AMD and Nvidia bring and are bringing out.

Get the PS4 and X1 for what they are, but if your expecting lot, your going to be surprised, console manufacturers can't afford to match maxed out PCs anymore on any level.

Why in the crap is anyone getting hyped about APUs like their about high end gaming. It's already causing compromises. From the Theif developer on why it's capped at 30fps 'I'd rather have better physics than a higher frame rate'. WOOOOOOOW PS4 = fantastic. :roll:

If they know it's not as powerful, why would they boast about it. Plus right now, they don't need anymore negative news. 50% more powerful? Doubt it, only Sony said that. Everyone one else says 33%.

Also I just want to point out, while the cows are as usual falling for Sonys hype. IT'S A BLOODY APU. Lets be clear, they are designed to bring decent performance to affordable entry level computers... What you boast about, the PC gamer rightfully scoffs at. As much as I like APUs and plan on building a PC for someone with one, it is what it is and i'd stfu about it if I was you. Your CPU gets owned by good i5 and probably a low end one and your GPU isn't all that compared to the awesome dedicated GPUs AMD and Nvidia bring and are bringing out.

Get the PS4 and X1 for what they are, but if your expecting lot, your going to be surprised, console manufacturers can't afford to match maxed out PCs anymore on any level.

Why in the crap is anyone getting hyped about APUs like their about high end gaming. It's already causing compromises. From the Theif developer on why it's capped at 30fps 'I'd rather have better physics than a higher frame rate'. WOOOOOOOW PS4 = fantastic. :roll:

HalcyonScarlet

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]

I call BS on this. Did you make this up? 

xhawk27

Ok MS thought Sony was going to use only 4gb of Ram. The data move engines can use the CPU to make up for the lack of compute units. 

yeah.... NO...
memory is memory, GPU is GPU.

The data move engines are there only to backup the sluggish DDR3, they have nothing to do with the CUs of the GPU and they cant replace the lacking CUs in the GPU for the life of them.

Epic Fail post....