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#51 super600  Moderator
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I doubt the majority of consumers who buy a console care about GPU specs.

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#52 killzowned24
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I doubt the majority of consumers who buy a console care about GPU specs.

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could say the same about phones, yet they show specs.
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#53 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]i remember when killzoned wasn't here, good timesStrongBlackVine

Truth hurts?

Yeah, TLOU flopping did sting :(
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#54 no-scope-AK47
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Ms has always been about specs from day one. The original xbox specs were pushed and so was the 360's. So was the ease of development vs other consoles. Now I have to think if they are not talking that sony must have the better specs. I think Sony caught Ms with their pants down. They never thought sony was going to have the better gpu or better memory or even the same amout of memory. 

When all the specs were dropped and Sony said no drm and 399 was the price panic set in for xbots. I like the 360 but after MS showed they ass I am done with them. Every which way Sony has the leg up. The clincher was Sony said they have 30 exclusives and 20 will hit in the 1st year. Of the 30 wait for it 12 are brand new IP's. Sony even said psn+ will have cross game party chat and custom sound tracks like the 360.

Hell they even put a headset in every box. Lems have got a rude awakening for the next gen. Ms has just pulled a ps3. Can they recover sure but it will e a long way off if ever.

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#55 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]i remember when killzoned wasn't here, good timesRR360DD

Truth hurts?

 

 

Yeah, TLOU flopping did sting :(

:lol:

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#56 FoxbatAlpha
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I heard a rumor that there is no GPU. There is no internals either, just a empty console. THE CLOUD powers all of this
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#57 ronvalencia
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:lol:

 

They pulling a nintendo and just ignore hoping the lemmings don't realize PS4 GPU is 50% more powerfu.

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Radeon HD 8970-OEM is 233 % more powerful than PS4's GCN.
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#58 ManatuBeard
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If The Last of Us  had sold only 100 copies, it would have been 100 copies more than the last 1st party game for the Xbox360 in the last 2 months... because THERE WAS NONE!

How can Xbots comment on 1st/2nd party games of the PS3 if they have NONE of their own??

Oh and btw... Beyond Two Souls, Puppeteer, Rain and Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3 this year!

What 1st/2nd party games you had/will have this year xbots??

MS already dumped the 360, its all about the X1 now.

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#59 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

:lol:

 

They pulling a nintendo and just ignore hoping the lemmings don't realize PS4 GPU is 50% more powerfu.

ronvalencia
Radeon HD 8970-OEM is 233 % more powerful than PS4's GCN.

great ,i'm sure 50 million plus users will have one :lol:
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PS4 is the Winner.....can't wait.
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#61 Evo_nine
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how many times are the cockroaches going to fall for the same "sony is more powerful" hook

 

youre being played for fools, there are many articles out there stating that there will be minimal difference. 

 

However there is one difference, its called azure and its the cream of the crop. Sony dropped the ball, gaikai is no match. 

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#62 tormentos
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:lol:

 

They pulling a nintendo and just ignore hoping the lemmings don't realize PS4 GPU is 50% more powerfu.

killzowned24

 

Any one who deny this is simply damage controlling.

 

MS has always been very vocal about the GPU hardware,specially the last 2 pass generations,and now they refuse to even speak about it.

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#63 tormentos
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how many times are the cockroaches going to fall for the same "sony is more powerful" hook

 

youre being played for fools, there are many articles out there stating that there will be minimal difference. 

 

However there is one difference and its called azure. Sony dropped the ball, gaikai is no match. 

Evo_nine

 

But but the xbox one will win in Australia...:lol:

 

Azure is sh** have a good time sharing it with Windows office...:lol:

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[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

how many times are the cockroaches going to fall for the same "sony is more powerful" hook

 

youre being played for fools, there are many articles out there stating that there will be minimal difference. 

 

However there is one difference and its called azure. Sony dropped the ball, gaikai is no match. 

tormentos

 

But but the xbox one will win in Australia...:lol:

 

Azure is sh** have a good time sharing it with Windows office...:lol:

 

dat damage control

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#65 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

how many times are the cockroaches going to fall for the same "sony is more powerful" hook

 

youre being played for fools, there are many articles out there stating that there will be minimal difference. 

 

However there is one difference and its called azure. Sony dropped the ball, gaikai is no match. 

tormentos

 

But but the xbox one will win in Australia...:lol:

 

Azure is sh** have a good time sharing it with Windows office...:lol:

Azure is shit?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Such weak damage control, I expect better tormento

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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

how many times are the cockroaches going to fall for the same "sony is more powerful" hook

 

youre being played for fools, there are many articles out there stating that there will be minimal difference. 

 

However there is one difference and its called azure. Sony dropped the ball, gaikai is no match. 

Evo_nine

 

But but the xbox one will win in Australia...:lol:

 

Azure is sh** have a good time sharing it with Windows office...:lol:

 

dat damage control

Butthurt....??

ghgh

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#67 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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It's clear Microsoft fears Sony, they are just trying to copy Sony as much as they can now, but they will forever remain in Sony's shadow

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#68 Evo_nine
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It's clear Microsoft fears Sony, they are just trying to copy Sony as much as they can now, but they will forever remain in Sony's shadow

Davekeeh

shadow? yeah no.

Sony market capitalisation = $21b

Microsoft market capitalisation = $288b

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#69 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

how many times are the cockroaches going to fall for the same "sony is more powerful" hook

 

youre being played for fools, there are many articles out there stating that there will be minimal difference. 

 

However there is one difference and its called azure. Sony dropped the ball, gaikai is no match. 

RR360DD

 

But but the xbox one will win in Australia...:lol:

 

Azure is sh** have a good time sharing it with Windows office...:lol:

Azure is shit?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Such weak damage control, I expect better tormento

....wah you expect better of el tormo¿
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#70 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

:lol:

 

They pulling a nintendo and just ignore hoping the lemmings don't realize PS4 GPU is 50% more powerfu.

killzowned24
Radeon HD 8970-OEM is 233 % more powerful than PS4's GCN.

great ,i'm sure 50 million plus users will have one :lol:

Atm, there's zero install base for X1 and PS4.
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#71 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] Digital Foundry ''Bottom line: if you're wondering why Xbox One has a weaker GPU than PlayStation 4, it's because both platform holders have similar silicon budgets for the main processor - Sony has used the die-space for additional compute units and ROPs (32 vs. 16 in One), while Microsoft has budgeted for ESRAM and data move engines instead. From the Xbox perspective, it's just unfortunate for Microsoft that Sony's gamble paid off - right up until the wire, it was confident of shipping with twice the amount of RAM as PlayStation 4.''ManatuBeard

Ok MS thought Sony was going to use only 4gb of Ram. The data move engines can use the CPU to make up for the lack of compute units. 

yeah.... NO...
memory is memory, GPU is GPU.

The data move engines are there only to backup the sluggish DDR3, they have nothing to do with the CUs of the GPU and they cant replace the lacking CUs in the GPU for the life of them.

Epic Fail post....

Factor in AMD's PRT and X1's ESRAM hardware features.
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#72 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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Xbox One E3 games - 1080p / 60fps

 

PS4 E3 Games - 1080p / 20fps

 

Dat on chip eSRAM dfs

 

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#73 Shewgenja
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We should start calling it the XBU.  It's a box of secrets, after all!  LOL

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#74 SecretPolice
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Nope, dat bomb gonna drop when they feel the time is just right, bomb baby, just like that with their custom GPU, SecretP sauce and da cloud it's X1 > PS4 but really, nobody here should be surprised. :P

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#75 SchnabbleTab
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] seriously.how sad is it that in 2013 you don't know specs of announced hardware lolkillzowned24

It makes sense.  Considering how fast news spreads  and how far out of proportion things can get online, I would keep it under wraps as well.  The PS4 is already looking attractive in many ways, why would MS shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.

lol wut. its equivalent to a car truck dealer refusing to give engine specs :lol:

 

but I agree its good for them lol

 

No it's not, it doesn't matter how good the GPU is, what matters is the games, most gamers wont even know what a GPU is, so they dont care as long as their games look good.

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#76 J_Swayze
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Xbox One E3 games - 1080p / 60fps

 

PS4 E3 Games - 1080p / 20fps

 

Dat on chip eSRAM dfs

 

HaRmLeSS_RaGe
The same E3 where Xbox One games were running on PC?
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#77 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

It makes sense.  Considering how fast news spreads  and how far out of proportion things can get online, I would keep it under wraps as well.  The PS4 is already looking attractive in many ways, why would MS shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.

SchnabbleTab

lol wut. its equivalent to a car truck dealer refusing to give engine specs :lol:

 

but I agree its good for them lol

 

No it's not, it doesn't matter how good the GPU is, what matters is the games, most gamers wont even know what a GPU is, so they dont care as long as their games look good.

^this
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#78 SaltyMeatballs
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Microsoft's silence is enough for me to know it's the truth.
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#79 tdkmillsy
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There target market is much wider than a core gamer that only cares about graphics. Rather than realise numbers and have people compare numbers instead of actually looking at how it all works they just produce good looking games. 90%+ people wont care that the PS4 has better specs on paper they will judge on how games look. They wont even care if PS4 has better graphics (unless massively different) they will go with loyalty and overall package and experience.
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#80 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

Xbox One E3 games - 1080p / 60fps

 

PS4 E3 Games - 1080p / 20fps

 

Dat on chip eSRAM dfs

 

J_Swayze

The same E3 where Xbox One games were running on PC?

 

No. Sorry :cool:

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#81 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

It makes sense.  Considering how fast news spreads  and how far out of proportion things can get online, I would keep it under wraps as well.  The PS4 is already looking attractive in many ways, why would MS shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.

SchnabbleTab

lol wut. its equivalent to a car truck dealer refusing to give engine specs :lol:

 

but I agree its good for them lol

 

No it's not, it doesn't matter how good the GPU is, what matters is the games, most gamers wont even know what a GPU is, so they dont care as long as their games look good.

weak sauce reply just like the GPU :lol:

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#82 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="SchnabbleTab"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] lol wut. its equivalent to a car truck dealer refusing to give engine specs :lol:

 

but I agree its good for them lol

killzowned24

 

No it's not, it doesn't matter how good the GPU is, what matters is the games, most gamers wont even know what a GPU is, so they dont care as long as their games look good.

weak sauce reply just like the GPU :lol:

XB1 will sell well regardless of the GPU specs. but honestly, PS3 GPU was inferior to 360, and it sold fine also.
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poor lems $500+ for weaker hardware and a camera thats only being forced so you can have voice commands :lol:

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#84 tdkmillsy
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poor lems $500+ for weaker hardware and a camera thats only being forced so you can have voice commands :lol:

rell84

I like talking to my Xbox, it always does what I ask :)

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Xbox One E3 games - 1080p / 60fps

 

PS4 E3 Games - 1080p / 20fps

 

Dat on chip eSRAM dfs

 

HaRmLeSS_RaGe



Whats Wii:U's GPU like with its 2gb Ram? Well actually 1gb Ram is only available for gaming.

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#86 Scipio8
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Poor cows only got specs and no games

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#87 Heil68
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Well they showed some courage in doing a 180, dropping DRM in favor of consumer rights and by golly that means something.
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#88 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

how many times are the cockroaches going to fall for the same "sony is more powerful" hook

 

youre being played for fools, there are many articles out there stating that there will be minimal difference. 

 

However there is one difference and its called azure. Sony dropped the ball, gaikai is no match. 

RR360DD

 

But but the xbox one will win in Australia...:lol:

 

Azure is sh** have a good time sharing it with Windows office...:lol:

Azure is shit?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Such weak damage control, I expect better tormento

Azure has nothing to do with Xbox. Keep misinforming. :|

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#89 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

Xbox One E3 games - 1080p / 60fps

 

PS4 E3 Games - 1080p / 20fps

 

Dat on chip eSRAM dfs

 

g0ddyX



Whats Wii:U's GPU like with its 2gb Ram? Well actually 1gb Ram is only available for gaming.

 

Wii U is a beast of a machine. I mean, have you seen Mario Kart 8 :shock: