they now, u hardcore madden fans are going to run out and buy them...and all they do is add a couple of tweaks and "updated graphics"
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they now, u hardcore madden fans are going to run out and buy them...and all they do is add a couple of tweaks and "updated graphics"
I agree 100%.So far, since I started my Madden boycott in 2005 they haven't made me regret my decision one bit and instead have reinforced my belief that they were going to let the franchise go into the crapper. They need to scrap the entire team and rebuild.
heretrix
im gonna ask you this and i want a an honest answer, have you played madden this year and are you a fan of football games?they now, u hardcore madden fans are going to run out and buy them...and all they do is add a couple of tweaks and "updated graphics"
Chris_Williams
[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]
whos says if 2K made a football game it would be as good as they used to be...standards are different now.....2K can't make a decent baseball game for hells sake....but with that said we need some competition cuz madden isn't even trying anymore
Is it supposed to be easier to make a baseball game than a football game?didn't say it was supposed to be easier did I? I'm saying you can't assume that 2K would make a great football game
Why not? Their past track record shows they probably would make a great football game.[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Is it supposed to be easier to make a baseball game than a football game?moose_knuckler
didn't say it was supposed to be easier did I? I'm saying you can't assume that 2K would make a great football game
Why not? Their past track record shows they probably would make a great football game. just like free radical did with golden eye and then haze right? or just like silikon knight did with eternal darkness and then too human right?Flopped? How about you ask all of the other reviewers if it flopped. I didn't even think people still used GS reviews Or better yet, how about you ask all the Madden fans who for once are not dogging their own game, because it's finally good? How it got a lower score than Madden 09 completely baffles me. Another thing, why does the reviewer make it seem like people actually play franchise on 5 minute quarters?
1- The Madden games now blow out every football game in the past.....the genre has just gotten stale and hasn't had enough improvements. Its not like 2ks games are better, in fact 2k5 is horse crap compared to Madden now, the presentation is better 2- This games issues seemed to focus on -Inconsistant AI in terms of blocking schemes, the unstoppable QB sneak, presentation issues both visual and audio positives -Most realistic passing game in a Madden game -Online Franchises/Coop mode work extremely well, just need to be fleshed out -The Defensive AI is extremely good.....in somewhat of a bad way as well though. jg4xchamp
I agree with what you're saying, and i play lots of madden, and have played lots of 2k5. Playing the demo numerous times, every once and awhile your o-linemen will just run straight ahead for no reason (in an attempt to pick up the "blitzing" lb when the DT will run right by them. I haven't seen if the qb sneak was toned down yet, but i'm still gonna be picking it up tomorrow no doubt.
Flopped? How about you ask all of the other reviewers if it flopped. I didn't even think people still used GS reviews Or better yet, how about you ask all the Madden fans who for once are not dogging their own game, because it's finally good? How it got a lower score than Madden 09 completely baffles me. Another thing, why does the reviewer make it seem like people actually play franchise on 5 minute quarters?
ice144
Because GS reviewers are garbage. They got Giancarlo Varanini to review it...ever heard of him? Neither have i. GS is a shadow of itself, especially review wise.
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]1- The Madden games now blow out every football game in the past.....the genre has just gotten stale and hasn't had enough improvements. Its not like 2ks games are better, in fact 2k5 is horse crap compared to Madden now, the presentation is better 2- This games issues seemed to focus on -Inconsistant AI in terms of blocking schemes, the unstoppable QB sneak, presentation issues both visual and audio positives -Most realistic passing game in a Madden game -Online Franchises/Coop mode work extremely well, just need to be fleshed out -The Defensive AI is extremely good.....in somewhat of a bad way as well though. WINDWAKER1
I agree with what you're saying, and i play lots of madden, and have played lots of 2k5. Playing the demo numerous times, every once and awhile your o-linemen will just run straight ahead for no reason (in an attempt to pick up the "blitzing" lb when the DT will run right by them. I haven't seen if the qb sneak was toned down yet, but i'm still gonna be picking it up tomorrow no doubt.
its not, its as annoying as ever.:| How did I have an attitude? I was actually being serious when asking my question...no kind of sarcasm. Did you think I was trying to defend 2K so you got angry?[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]
you had the attitude first...you get what you give
chikenfriedrice
I didn't get angry at all I couldn't care less....I took ur question as sarcasm just like you took mine as having an attitude but at the end of the day it's just video games
I took yours as having an attitude because you did have an attitude. I, however, had no intentional sarcasm.[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]
[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]
So they can't make a great football game because they can't make a good baseball game? Huh? Well then, I think they can make an excellent football game because their basketball games are great. Beat that logic. :|
SaintBlaze
all this 2K5 love isgettin old is what i'm saying get off the baseball thing and focus on my real point
And what's your point? That 2K CAN'T make a good football game? :lol:
That's just ludicrous. They obviously have the credentials (their original NFL games were top tier) and if you give them the NFL license they'll do wonders with it. I honestly don't see why you feel they don't even have the POTENTIAL to make a qaulity football game.
How come all the NFL 2K fanboys NEVER mention All-Pro Football??? How is it that they always seem to gloss over that one? Because it maybe showed that 2K isn't even in the same league (pun intended, BTW) as EA when it comes to football games anymore?
[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]
[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]
all this 2K5 love isgettin old is what i'm saying get off the baseball thing and focus on my real point
svetzenlether
And what's your point? That 2K CAN'T make a good football game? :lol:
That's just ludicrous. They obviously have the credentials (their original NFL games were top tier) and if you give them the NFL license they'll do wonders with it. I honestly don't see why you feel they don't even have the POTENTIAL to make a qaulity football game.
How come all the NFL 2K fanboys NEVER mention All-Pro Football??? How is it that they always seem to gloss over that one? Because it maybe showed that 2K isn't even in the same league (pun intended, BTW) as EA when it comes to football games anymore?
All-Pro football could possibly be the worst game i have ever played
Lol, and many of the fanboys on SW cry "GAMESPOT scores ONLY!!!!!!!!"It's averaging 88 on metacritic. This is just another case of Gamespot being way off the mark.
strudel420
I've been praying for the day NFL2K returns. I've never owned a Madden game, and I don't to intend to buy one anytime soon at this rate. "Sigh" I'll just pop in NFL2K4 for yet another year...
they tried a comeback with all pro football that that sucked hardAnother year, another dissapointing installment of the Madden franchise. With no competition and a monopoly the creators of the Madden franchise evidently don't really care anymore. At least Sega and 2K would make a QUALITY football game. I'm so sick of this mediocre sports game that everyone buys each year. Lets compare review scores...
NFL 2K 9.9 (DC)
NFL 2K1 9.9 (DC)
NFL 2K2 9.5 (DC)
NFL 2K3 9.6 (PS2)
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL 9.3 (PS2)
ESPN NFL 2K5 9.2 (Xbox) Sadly, it stopped here.
Madden hasn't come anywhere close to these scores in A LONG time.
halo1399
[QUOTE="halo1399"]they tried a comeback with all pro football that that sucked hard I'm pretty sure they were aware no one was going to be interested, seriously when was the last time someone created a football game not based on the NFL and succeeded? Anyways, you're bashing 1 2k football game vs. the last 5 or 6 that scored AAA and 2 of them almost got AAAA? seriously...Another year, another dissapointing installment of the Madden franchise. With no competition and a monopoly the creators of the Madden franchise evidently don't really care anymore. At least Sega and 2K would make a QUALITY football game. I'm so sick of this mediocre sports game that everyone buys each year. Lets compare review scores...
NFL 2K 9.9 (DC)
NFL 2K1 9.9 (DC)
NFL 2K2 9.5 (DC)
NFL 2K3 9.6 (PS2)
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL 9.3 (PS2)
ESPN NFL 2K5 9.2 (Xbox) Sadly, it stopped here.
Madden hasn't come anywhere close to these scores in A LONG time.
ktrotter11
they really do need one, id be all for it even if all they did ever year was release an update to refresh the rostersAs a Canadian, and I'm sure alot more Canadians are with me on this one, I want a CFL game dammit!!
svetzenlether
i've actually heard the game plays great and has great animations and i will pick it up soon. gamespot just took off too many points for co-op and the online franchise mode which are new to the game and still need some tweaks. a lot of u guys are just haters and live by gamespot a little too much. the reviews on here have been suspect for more than a little while now.
2k fanboys are probably some of the worst
they're still stuck in the past and just can't get over themselves
it's sad really
CDUB316
What's really sadwas EA hoping this years Madden would finally help people forget about 2K5, So ,it's taken them 5 years to improve an Xbox, PS2 game?
[QUOTE="halo1399"]they tried a comeback with all pro football that that sucked hardAnother year, another dissapointing installment of the Madden franchise. With no competition and a monopoly the creators of the Madden franchise evidently don't really care anymore. At least Sega and 2K would make a QUALITY football game. I'm so sick of this mediocre sports game that everyone buys each year. Lets compare review scores...
NFL 2K 9.9 (DC)
NFL 2K1 9.9 (DC)
NFL 2K2 9.5 (DC)
NFL 2K3 9.6 (PS2)
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL 9.3 (PS2)
ESPN NFL 2K5 9.2 (Xbox) Sadly, it stopped here.
Madden hasn't come anywhere close to these scores in A LONG time.
ktrotter11
Probably because, they didn't have the NFL license?
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