Madden only 30FPS on PS3 - Who's fault is it?

because developers port the 360 copy over to the ps3 (the cheap way) which is a no-no
ermacness

are you trying to imply that it ISNT?, because if you are. self ownage.

springz300

then how are multiplats better on 360? you=self-owned :lol:

Well than I won'y be buying it, if it's how described, and if all multiplats come exclusive on that console then we'll see lots of Konami, 2K sports titles for the next few years;)DeadMan1290

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]because 360 gets the superior version? :lol: cowsImagineGamer

and you use dynasty warrior, a even worse game, for ownage :|...:lol:

[QUOTE="ermacness"]because developers port the 360 copy over to the ps3 (the cheap way) which is a no-no
ImagineGamer

By what I've heard, and read(I have no proof sorry), EA said that they will use X360 as their MAIN development console, for their multiplat games, and won't put much effort into the PS3 versions...

[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]Well than I won'y be buying it, if it's how described, and if all multiplats come exclusive on that console then we'll see lots of Konami, 2K sports titles for the next few years;)Dualshockin

Yeah that's what I don't like about Pro Evolution, and now that I think about it, it's true Konami has very little licenses while EA has ALL of them:O...Which kind of sucks for them(Konami)don't you think?

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]I see your point and agree with you....One question though....Why blame EA?DeadMan1290

They might make Madden, but if they can't make a game run at 60 FPS on PS3 BY NOW, then they're pretty ignorant

[QUOTE="ermacness"]because developers port the 360 copy over to the ps3 (the cheap way) which is a no-no
ImagineGamer

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]I see your point and agree with you....One question though....Why blame EA?Dualshockin

They might make Madden, but if they can't make a game run at 60 FPS on PS3 BY NOW, then they're pretty ignorant

I never said it is:)...I'm just saying that EA is ignorant on not being able to make a game run at 60 FPS by now on PS3, with what? 9 months since PS3's release?....That's just unbeliveable.

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]Well than I won'y be buying it, if it's how described, and if all multiplats come exclusive on that console then we'll see lots of Konami, 2K sports titles for the next few years;)DeadMan1290

Yeah that's what I don't like about Pro Evolution, and now that I think about it, it's true Konami has very little licenses while EA has ALL of them:O...Which kind of sucks for them(Konami)don't you think?

[QUOTE="ImagineGamer"][QUOTE="ermacness"]because developers port the 360 copy over to the ps3 (the cheap way) which is a no-no
DeadMan1290

By what I've heard, and read(I have no proof sorry), EA said that they will use X360 as their MAIN development console, for their multiplat games, and won't put much effort into the PS3 versions...

p.s. i guess we can count out Burnout:Paradise being the 1st EA title that is being lead developed on the ps3:roll:

I never said it is:)...I'm just saying that EA is ignorant on not being able to make a game run at 60 FPS by now on PS3, with what? 9 months since PS3's release?....That's just unbeliveable.DeadMan1290

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]Well than I won'y be buying it, if it's how described, and if all multiplats come exclusive on that console then we'll see lots of Konami, 2K sports titles for the next few years;)Dualshockin

Yeah that's what I don't like about Pro Evolution, and now that I think about it, it's true Konami has very little licenses while EA has ALL of them:O...Which kind of sucks for them(Konami)don't you think?

LOL....The games are still fun though...

The easy way is to blame the developers, thats the new excuse here..-wii60-

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[QUOTE="ImagineGamer"][QUOTE="ermacness"]because developers port the 360 copy over to the ps3 (the cheap way) which is a no-no
ermacness

By what I've heard, and read(I have no proof sorry), EA said that they will use X360 as their MAIN development console, for their multiplat games, and won't put much effort into the PS3 versions...

p.s. i guess we can count out Burnout:Paradise being the 1st EA title that is being lead developed on the ps3:roll:

I don't think they're coward, I think they're lazy, and a bit ignorant, on prolly not knowing how to use the PS3 as a whole yet:)....Good if Burnout: Paradise is being lead developed on PS3, FINALLY SOME JUSTICE ON PS3:lol:

LOL....The games are still fun though...DeadMan1290

I'd say it's for the same reason x360 got 30fps maddens earlier (no matter what reason would it be...).Evil_Twin666

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]I see your point and agree with you....One question though....Why blame EA?DeadMan1290

They might make Madden, but if they can't make a game run at 60 FPS on PS3 BY NOW, then they're pretty ignorant

I never said it is:)...I'm just saying that EA is ignorant on not being able to make a game run at 60 FPS by now on PS3, with what? 9 months since PS3's release?....That's just unbeliveable.

Probably because PS3 is hard to program and that each Madden game needs to be finished each year unlike other games that are developed 2-3 years.

Who's fault is it?ImagineGamer

I never said it is:)...I'm just saying that EA is ignorant on not being able to make a game run at 60 FPS by now on PS3, with what? 9 months since PS3's release?....That's just unbeliveable.

Probably because PS3 is hard to program and that each Madden game needs to be finished each year unlike other games that are developed 2-3 years.

Delay don't hurt no one;)...Unless you can't live without Madden..

[QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]Who's fault is it?peacebringer

[QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]Who's fault is it?peacebringer

it's a game is 30fps on PS3 and 60fps on 360, i'd say it's sony's fault for giving devs crap to work with

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]Who's fault is it?ImagineGamer

it's a game is 30fps on PS3 and 60fps on 360, i'd say it's sony's fault for giving devs crap to work with

By that logic, is it also your opinion then that Microsoft was "giving crap to the developers" since Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30fps on the 360?

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[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]Who's fault is it?ramey70

it's a game is 30fps on PS3 and 60fps on 360, i'd say it's sony's fault for giving devs crap to work with

By that logic, is it also your opinion then that Microsoft was "giving crap to the developers" since Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30fps on the 360?

it didnt have competitions back then :|

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]Who's fault is it?ImagineGamer

it's a game is 30fps on PS3 and 60fps on 360, i'd say it's sony's fault for giving devs crap to work with

By that logic, is it also your opinion then that Microsoft was "giving crap to the developers" since Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30fps on the 360?

it didnt have competitions back then :|

So you're saying Microsoft wont give developers what they need unless they feel threatened by competition?

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]Who's fault is it?ImagineGamer

it's a game is 30fps on PS3 and 60fps on 360, i'd say it's sony's fault for giving devs crap to work with

By that logic, is it also your opinion then that Microsoft was "giving crap to the developers" since Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30fps on the 360?

it didnt have competitions back then :|

[QUOTE="ImagineGamer"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]Who's fault is it?ramey70

it's a game is 30fps on PS3 and 60fps on 360, i'd say it's sony's fault for giving devs crap to work with

By that logic, is it also your opinion then that Microsoft was "giving crap to the developers" since Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30fps on the 360?

it didnt have competitions back then :|

So you're saying Microsoft wont give developers what they need unless they feel threatened by competition?

when 2 console compete, the superior version of the game usually end up on the better console, wouldnt you agree?

"How on Earth is it Sony's fault for a game they didn't create?" Because they created a console so difficult to program for that yearly sports games are suffering and non yearly games are having to be delayed to get them to run properly. Also instead of trying to actively help developers with their difficult to program for platform they simply throw the devs under the bus by saying "We can get sports game to run at 60FPS why can't you" They built a difficult piece of crap and won't help developers. It's their freakin fault. The PS3 is the biggest pile of console crap ever created.swanlee

"bu-but teh lazy devs :cry:"

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]Who's fault is it?ImagineGamer

it's a game is 30fps on PS3 and 60fps on 360, i'd say it's sony's fault for giving devs crap to work with

By that logic, is it also your opinion then that Microsoft was "giving crap to the developers" since Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30fps on the 360?

it didnt have competitions back then :|

So you're saying Microsoft wont give developers what they need unless they feel threatened by competition?

when 2 console compete, the superior version of the game usually end up on the better console, wouldnt you agree?

All things being equal, yes that would be the case. However, in this instance they aren't.

"How on Earth is it Sony's fault for a game they didn't create?" Because they created a console so difficult to program for that yearly sports games are suffering and non yearly games are having to be delayed to get them to run properly. Also instead of trying to actively help developers with their difficult to program for platform they simply throw the devs under the bus by saying "We can get sports game to run at 60FPS why can't you" They built a difficult piece of crap and won't help developers. It's their freakin fault. The PS3 is the biggest pile of console crap ever created.swanlee

Thatis one of the most unreasonable opinions I have ever heard, no offense dude, but PS3 ain't a piece of crap just cause devs are lazy, and notsmart enough to program on it. If EA took TIME, and spent hours working they would release a good sports game for the PS3 that ran at 60FPS, but since all they care about is getting money, wether the gameis good or not,we may never see that.

EA doesnt care about the PS3 one because there are only like 2 million sold PS3s in the US compared to 6 million 360s.Kahuna_1

Yeah they DID say that they didn't worry much about the PS3 version of their multiplats, which sort of sucks.

[QUOTE="swanlee"]"How on Earth is it Sony's fault for a game they didn't create?" Because they created a console so difficult to program for that yearly sports games are suffering and non yearly games are having to be delayed to get them to run properly. Also instead of trying to actively help developers with their difficult to program for platform they simply throw the devs under the bus by saying "We can get sports game to run at 60FPS why can't you" They built a difficult piece of crap and won't help developers. It's their freakin fault. The PS3 is the biggest pile of console crap ever created.DeadMan1290

Thatis one of the most unreasonable opinions I have ever heard, no offense dude, but PS3 ain't a piece of crap just cause devs are lazy, and notsmart enough to program on it. If EA took TIME, and spent hours working they would release a good sports game for the PS3 that ran at 60FPS, but since all they care about is getting money, wether the gameis good or not,we may never see that.

:lol: "since all they care about is getting money"? How does that make them any different from Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo?

Also have you seen Crysis or Spore or Battlefield 2? How can you even say that the developers are lazy? Just because developers are on a budget and a time limit does not make them lazy. And who in the world would even employ a lazy developer? The fact of the matter is the PS3 is more difficult to program for than the 360, both parties (EA and Sony) are partly to blame for this.

To be honest, if his post is unreasonable so is yours.

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[QUOTE="swanlee"]"How on Earth is it Sony's fault for a game they didn't create?" Because they created a console so difficult to program for that yearly sports games are suffering and non yearly games are having to be delayed to get them to run properly. Also instead of trying to actively help developers with their difficult to program for platform they simply throw the devs under the bus by saying "We can get sports game to run at 60FPS why can't you" They built a difficult piece of crap and won't help developers. It's their freakin fault. The PS3 is the biggest pile of console crap ever created.thirstychainsaw

Thatis one of the most unreasonable opinions I have ever heard, no offense dude, but PS3 ain't a piece of crap just cause devs are lazy, and notsmart enough to program on it. If EA took TIME, and spent hours working they would release a good sports game for the PS3 that ran at 60FPS, but since all they care about is getting money, wether the gameis good or not,we may never see that.

:lol: "since all they care about is getting money"? How does that make them any different from Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo?

Also have you seen Crysis or Spore or Battlefield 2? How can you even say that the developers are lazy? Just because developers are on a budget and a time limit does not make them lazy. And who in the world would even employ a lazy developer? The fact of the matter is the PS3 is more difficult to program for than the 360, both parties are partly to blame for this.

To be honest, if his post is unreasonable so is yours.

I have seen those games yes, but even if the PS3 is hard to program on, why not take time to learn, it's not like EA will go bankrupt if they take a few extra months to learn how the damn thing works, and I don't see Madden being sort of an obligation to publish so fast instead of taking a few months to develop it, bad sports titles have been an issue EA has dealt with for a while, I think:)

"but PS3 ain't a piece of crap just cause devs are lazy," Dude it's not just EA, 2k Sports couldn't get APF 2K8 to run at 60FPS on the PS3 either even though it runs at 60FPS on the 360. Ubisoft has had to delay several games for the PS3 to get them up to snuff and even went Exclusive with Splinter Cell on the 360, Carmack has criticized the PS3 for memory issues and being difficult to program for, THQ canceled Smackdown VS Raw last year cause they did not have enough time to get the game running properly. Codemasters had to delay Dirt on the PS3. It took Bethesda an entire year after Oblivion's release to get the PS3 version out the door. So either just about every developer that makes games is lazy or the PS3 is a difficult piece of crap to program for.swanlee

Good points I'm afraid:S

Well you could argue that they prioritised the 360 version over the ps3 one because of the number of 360's that are already out in the market.

But from a development point of view you could also say that they've had 1+ year with 360 hardware+360 easier to program for so = better coded game.

It's most likely the latter imo (looks at multiplat 360/ps3 games),yh it's got to be the latter :P

Peter Moore now works at EA, so expect to PS3 to get shafted by EA a lot now.no_submission

"bu-but teh conspiracy :cry:" cows need to seriously stop whining

Peter Moore now works at EA, so expect to PS3 to get shafted by EA a lot now.no_submission

I have a problem understanding this, sure Peter Moore was with MS, but I don't think his presence really is an influence in EA, unless he's like a CEO or something

Edit: Sorry about that, I just saw he is Head at EA Sports....My bad