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#1 TerrorRizzing
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Ive seen people argue ps3 vs xbox 360. Truth is both console versions are just bargain bin junk judging by the demo. Not a huge surprise considering mafia 1 was exactly the same situation.

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Ive seen people argue ps3 vs xbox 360. Truth is both console versions are just bargain bin junk judging by the demo. Not a huge surprise considering mafia 1 was exactly the same situation.

TerrorRizzing

what about people that dont have a mid-spec plus PC?

PC version looks great but it better fully support a 360 controller, TPS and driving isnt great with a keyboard and mouse

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#3 Arach666
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[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]

Ive seen people argue ps3 vs xbox 360. Truth is both console versions are just bargain bin junk judging by the demo. Not a huge surprise considering mafia 1 was exactly the same situation.

gillri

what about people that dont have a mid-spec plus PC?

PC version looks great but it better fully support a 360 controller, TPS and driving isnt great with a keyboard and mouse

It does support the 360 controller for windows.
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IDK if I would call those versions junk, but they are lacking compared to the PC. If the PC version foes not score .5 higher here it will prove to me this site has zero skilled PC reviewers.
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#5 TerrorRizzing
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[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]

Ive seen people argue ps3 vs xbox 360. Truth is both console versions are just bargain bin junk judging by the demo. Not a huge surprise considering mafia 1 was exactly the same situation.

gillri

what about people that dont have a mid-spec plus PC?

PC version looks great but it better fully support a 360 controller, TPS and driving isnt great with a keyboard and mouse

well if you dont like the keyboard and mouse you can use the 360 controller. The controls are much better with keyboard and mouse all around though.
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#6 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]

Ive seen people argue ps3 vs xbox 360. Truth is both console versions are just bargain bin junk judging by the demo. Not a huge surprise considering mafia 1 was exactly the same situation.

gillri

what about people that dont have a mid-spec plus PC?

PC version looks great but it better fully support a 360 controller, TPS and driving isnt great with a keyboard and mouse

It works pretty damn good with mouse and keyboard if you ask me, not as bad as people make it out to be, but I do agree controller is better for driving.
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#7 TerrorRizzing
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IDK if I would call those versions junk, but they are lacking compared to the PC. If the PC version foes not score .5 higher here it will prove to me this site has zero skilled PC reviewers. millerlight89
it should score at least a full point higher.
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#8 AiurProtoss
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I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.
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Not really, as some people prefer consoles. Either that or they don't have a PC capable of running it.

The PC version is by far the best though.

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#10 millerlight89
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I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.AiurProtoss
How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.
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#11 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]

Ive seen people argue ps3 vs xbox 360. Truth is both console versions are just bargain bin junk judging by the demo. Not a huge surprise considering mafia 1 was exactly the same situation.

gillri

what about people that dont have a mid-spec plus PC?

PC version looks great but it better fully support a 360 controller, TPS and driving isnt great with a keyboard and mouse

Actually Walking and shooting with Mafia 2 is better with KB+M. Besides 2k Czech is a primary pc dev and that shows how good the game is with KB+M ( altough driving is better with gamepad but that what is 360 controller for windows is )
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#12 TerrorRizzing
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I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.AiurProtoss
well i could make a thread about saints row 2, but thats no longer relevant. whats the point of system wars if thats all you have to say?
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I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.AiurProtoss
Like 360 & PS3 owners who bash the Wii, and then get all offended by PC gamers? :lol:
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[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.millerlight89
How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

because there is no real argument.
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[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.millerlight89
How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

Yeah, I wonder why nobody ever cottons onto the fact that fanboy groups of both PS3 and 360 do exactly the same thing :lol:

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#16 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.lundy86_4

How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

Yeah, I wonder why nobody ever cottons onto the fact that fanboy groups of both PS3 and 360 do exactly the same thing :lol:

*points to 2 posts above* :P
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[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.millerlight89
How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

Probably because whatever PC players say is usually right, and that's the only rebuttal people can come up with.
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#18 AiurProtoss
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[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.millerlight89
How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

I am fully aware that there are stupid remarks on bith sides but I rarely see console gamers talking down to people that can only afford a console or don't have an adequate PC to runt the game. I just find it stupid and sickening that people have t talk down on certain versions of a game or people that play them when the visuals only the visuals are superior, its not like they are playing Mafia 0.000009 instead of Mafia 2.
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#19 gillri
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[QUOTE="gillri"]

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]

Ive seen people argue ps3 vs xbox 360. Truth is both console versions are just bargain bin junk judging by the demo. Not a huge surprise considering mafia 1 was exactly the same situation.

TerrorRizzing

what about people that dont have a mid-spec plus PC?

PC version looks great but it better fully support a 360 controller, TPS and driving isnt great with a keyboard and mouse

well if you dont like the keyboard and mouse you can use the 360 controller. The controls are much better with keyboard and mouse all around though.

the only thing a keyboard and mouse has over a controller is better accuarcy, they can be very disengaging when compared to a control pad with its meaty triggers, force feedback and analogue movement

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#20 Arach666
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.TerrorRizzing
How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

because there is no real argument.

:lol:

Of course it isn´t....

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#21 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.blue_hazy_basic
Like 360 & PS3 owners who bash the Wii, and then get all offended by PC gamers? :lol:

Excellt point. That deserves a big ol Bazinga!

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*points to 2 posts above* :Pblue_hazy_basic

FINE... I wonder why nobody cottons on -- besides that damn blue_hazy!!! :x

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#23 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="gillri"]

what about people that dont have a mid-spec plus PC?

PC version looks great but it better fully support a 360 controller, TPS and driving isnt great with a keyboard and mouse

gillri

well if you dont like the keyboard and mouse you can use the 360 controller. The controls are much better with keyboard and mouse all around though.

the only thing a keyboard and mouse has over a controller is better accuarcy, they can be very disengaging when compared to a control pad with its meaty triggers, force feedback and analogue movement

It can also be disengaging when you are trying to hit a guy in the head and you can't because you just wave all over the place and instead just give up and let the auto aim do the work for you and hit the torso.

Analog movement is overrated by console gamers, half of moving is choosing where you want to go, and that requires aiming, which the mouse provides.

I'd like to see a console player use his controller to make some of the jumps people make in CS, Quake and UT while making a headshot consistently.

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#24 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]*points to 2 posts above* :Plundy86_4

FINE... I wonder why nobody cottons on -- besides that damn blue_hazy!!! :x

thats better :D
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.AiurProtoss
How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

I am fully aware that there are stupid remarks on bith sides but I rarely see console gamers talking down to people that can only afford a console or don't have an adequate PC to runt the game. I just find it stupid and sickening that people have t talk down on certain versions of a game or people that play them when the visuals only the visuals are superior, its not like they are playing Mafia 0.000009 instead of Mafia 2.

because controls, visuals, frame rates and draw distances don't affect gameplay at all.
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I don't see why it would score so much higher - other than Physx and graphics, the core gameplay is the same.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]IDK if I would call those versions junk, but they are lacking compared to the PC. If the PC version foes not score .5 higher here it will prove to me this site has zero skilled PC reviewers. TerrorRizzing
it should score at least a full point higher.

Gamespot does not do scores cross-platform. Mafia II for PC will be compared to other free-roaming games on the PC like GTA IV, Just Cause II, and Saint's Row II - not whether it's better (or worse - whatever the case) to the version on PS3 and Xbox 360.
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#28 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.AiurProtoss
How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

I am fully aware that there are stupid remarks on bith sides but I rarely see console gamers talking down to people that can only afford a console or don't have an adequate PC to runt the game. I just find it stupid and sickening that people have t talk down on certain versions of a game or people that play them when the visuals only the visuals are superior, its not like they are playing Mafia 0.000009 instead of Mafia 2.

I see no one in here talking down to console gamers. Maybe you should re-read the posts? Just because we say a game is better on the PC (when in fact it is), does not mean we are talking down at you guys.
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TC, did you just realise that multiplats are better on PC? The 360/PS3 argument is arguing which version is worse.
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#30 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]IDK if I would call those versions junk, but they are lacking compared to the PC. If the PC version foes not score .5 higher here it will prove to me this site has zero skilled PC reviewers. Stinger78
it should score at least a full point higher.

Gamespot does not do scores cross-platform. Mafia II for PC will be compared to other free-roaming games on the PC like GTA IV, Just Cause II, and Saint's Row II - not whether it's better (or worse - whatever the case) to the version on PS3 and Xbox 360.

Go read some of the recent reviews and try and tell me they have not copied and pasted half the reviews from the console version. It i pathetic really.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Stinger78"][QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"] it should score at least a full point higher.

Gamespot does not do scores cross-platform. Mafia II for PC will be compared to other free-roaming games on the PC like GTA IV, Just Cause II, and Saint's Row II - not whether it's better (or worse - whatever the case) to the version on PS3 and Xbox 360.

Go read some of the recent reviews and try and tell me they have not copied and pasted half the reviews from the console version. It i pathetic really.

It depends on what games . There are very few differences between many multiplats. It would be pointless to write a whole new review so they could say "it's shinier" or "you use a mouse and keyboard".
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[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

I am fully aware that there are stupid remarks on bith sides but I rarely see console gamers talking down to people that can only afford a console or don't have an adequate PC to runt the game. I just find it stupid and sickening that people have t talk down on certain versions of a game or people that play them when the visuals only the visuals are superior, its not like they are playing Mafia 0.000009 instead of Mafia 2.

because controls, visuals, frame rates and draw distances don't affect gameplay at all.

Your missing my point my issue is with people being butthurt and talking down to people and having a superiority complex just because people have a console or a low end PC. Its great that the Tc or whoever can play the game at high settings or can experience the game in that way its just the bad attitude i sensed from his post.
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well no kidding it's pc and pc always curb stomps consoles.

i keep hoping you guys will realize that the only reason pc is allowed to be argued in sw is to let you feel included because it's sure not because consoles can even begin to stand up against pc.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

I am fully aware that there are stupid remarks on bith sides but I rarely see console gamers talking down to people that can only afford a console or don't have an adequate PC to runt the game. I just find it stupid and sickening that people have t talk down on certain versions of a game or people that play them when the visuals only the visuals are superior, its not like they are playing Mafia 0.000009 instead of Mafia 2.

I see no one in here talking down to console gamers. Maybe you should re-read the posts? Just because we say a game is better on the PC (when in fact it is), does not mean we are talking down at you guys.

"Ive seen people argue ps3 vs xbox 360. Truth is both console versions are just bargain bin junk judging by the demo. Not a huge surprise considering mafia 1 was exactly the same situation" yeah if thats not talking down to people who will play those versions then you sir are blind. Why cant we all enjoy the game for what it is and stop complaining over minor differences and calling games junk, becasue im sure the developers would really feel good that some no life is saying the game they worked hard on was junk.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Stinger78"] Gamespot does not do scores cross-platform. Mafia II for PC will be compared to other free-roaming games on the PC like GTA IV, Just Cause II, and Saint's Row II - not whether it's better (or worse - whatever the case) to the version on PS3 and Xbox 360.Ravensmash
Go read some of the recent reviews and try and tell me they have not copied and pasted half the reviews from the console version. It i pathetic really.

It depends on what games . There are very few differences between many multiplats. It would be pointless to write a whole new review so they could say "it's shinier" or "you use a mouse and keyboard".

No, but they did copy/paste the l4d2 review, and they didn't even mention how the framerate/graphics and controls are 10 times better on PC compared to 360. That's a fail right there and why I don't follow their reviews very closely anyway.

It's not like they have to change the whole review, they just have to score it half a point higher and actually acknowledge that it exists.

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"Ive seen people argue ps3 vs xbox 360. Truth is both console versions are just bargain bin junk judging by the demo. Not a huge surprise considering mafia 1 was exactly the same situation" yeah if thats not talking down to people who will play those versions then you sir are blind. Why cant we all enjoy the game for what it is and stop complaining over minor differences and calling games junk, becasue im sure the developers would really feel good that some no life is saying the game they worked hard on was junk.AiurProtoss

It seems that's more hyperbole to express the differences rather than actually talking down -- I would be worried if TC actually thought they were "bargain bin junk". Though I understand where you're coming from.

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I agree, console versions are lulz worthy compared to the PC version.
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#38 AiurProtoss
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[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]

"Ive seen people argue ps3 vs xbox 360. Truth is both console versions are just bargain bin junk judging by the demo. Not a huge surprise considering mafia 1 was exactly the same situation" yeah if thats not talking down to people who will play those versions then you sir are blind. Why cant we all enjoy the game for what it is and stop complaining over minor differences and calling games junk, becasue im sure the developers would really feel good that some no life is saying the game they worked hard on was junk.lundy86_4

It seems that's more hyperbole to express the differences rather than actually talking down -- I would be worried if TC actually thought they were "bargain bin junk". Though I understand where you're coming from.

well thats what i mean, there is jsut so much nerd rage in the TC's first post its so stupid. I know for a fact PC version of anything is better in controls, grapics perfomance, its just this TC needs to think and makes sure he doesn't look like a fanboy, and if he means it all , well then o well another no life to pity.
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Unless we are talking about Ubisoft DRM then if you play any multiplat on a console that is available on PC then you are doing it wrong. Why people support paying $10 for less is beyond me. Consoles have their place. That is to play games that the PC doesn't have.

But I'd have to check myself into a mental institution for paying $10 more for inferior graphics, resolutions, AA, framerates. ect.

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Unless we are talking about Ubisoft DRM then if you play any multiplat on a console that is available on PC then you are doing it wrong. Why people support paying $10 for less is beyond me. Consoles have their place. That is to play games that the PC doesn't have.

But I'd have to check myself into a mental institution for paying $10 more for inferior graphics, resolutions, AA, framerates. ect.

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I think you're being a bit overdramatic there.
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I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.AiurProtoss
It's only the truth.
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[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.Robbazking
It's only the truth.

Because clearly Mafia 2 is bargain bin junk right? Despite the core gameplay being....get this - exactly the same.
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[QUOTE="Robbazking"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.Ravensmash
It's only the truth.

Because clearly Mafia 2 is bargain bin junk right? Despite the core gameplay being....get this - exactly the same.

It's just hyperbole.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.AiurProtoss
How come I never hear people saying console elitism? I am sure you are aware console players do the same exact thing.

I am fully aware that there are stupid remarks on bith sides but I rarely see console gamers talking down to people that can only afford a console or don't have an adequate PC to runt the game. I just find it stupid and sickening that people have t talk down on certain versions of a game or people that play them when the visuals only the visuals are superior, its not like they are playing Mafia 0.000009 instead of Mafia 2.

You mean just like the 360 fanboys were doing with their multiple threads about how the ps3 version looks horrible compared to the 360?
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#45 Ragingbear505
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[QUOTE="Robbazking"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.Ravensmash
It's only the truth.

Because clearly Mafia 2 is bargain bin junk right? Despite the core gameplay being....get this - exactly the same.



To the almighty PC gaming master race it is bargain bin junk. Why would we stoop so low as to play a game at inferior resolutions with visual effects turned off. Tch.

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#46 abuabed
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Not really, as some people prefer consoles. Either that or they don't have a PC capable of running it.

The PC version is by far the best though.

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Yup, the consoles' versions are playable of course but as always, PC > Consoles.
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#47 The__Havoc
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Unless we are talking about Ubisoft DRM then if you play any multiplat on a console that is available on PC then you are doing it wrong. Why people support paying $10 for less is beyond me. Consoles have their place. That is to play games that the PC doesn't have.

But I'd have to check myself into a mental institution for paying $10 more for inferior graphics, resolutions, AA, framerates. ect.

Ravensmash

I think you're being a bit overdramatic there.

Tell me then. Why would I buy this game for my PS3/360 for $10 more over my gaming PC? Give me a reason? And yes I can plug my 360/PS3 controllers to my PC.

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#48 The__Havoc
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Robbazking"] It's only the truth.Ragingbear505

Because clearly Mafia 2 is bargain bin junk right? Despite the core gameplay being....get this - exactly the same.



To the almighty PC gaming master race it is bargain bin junk. Why would we stoop so low as to play a game at inferior resolutions with visual effects turned off. Tch.

All the while paying $10 more. Lets not forget the mods that are soon to come. I can't wait to see Jersey Shore characters in this game lol

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#49 The__Havoc
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[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]I love the PC elitism in here, makes me sick.Robbazking
It's only the truth.

Some people can't handle the truth. Also hilarious how people complain about PC elitism like we don't see the 360/PS3 guys talk down onto the Wii users and the Wii consumer base in general.

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#50 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ragingbear505"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Because clearly Mafia 2 is bargain bin junk right? Despite the core gameplay being....get this - exactly the same.The__Havoc



To the almighty PC gaming master race it is bargain bin junk. Why would we stoop so low as to play a game at inferior resolutions with visual effects turned off. Tch.

All the while paying $10 more. Lets not forget the mods that are soon to come. I can't wait to see Jersey Shore characters in this game lol

So the quality of a game is all aout resolutions and visual effects now? :lol: !