Mag A $60 Beta?

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#1 PSP107
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http://dualshockers.com/2010/03/05/why-mag-is-essentially-a-60-beta/

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#2 clubsammich91
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I had the same bewildered feeling when Zipper announced SOCOM 4. MAG and SOCOM are 2 very different games and I'm sure they will coexist just fine, but I wouldn't consider MAG a tech demo though.
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#3 PSdual_wielder
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Pure speculation baby, but sounds good! :D

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#4 WilliamRLBaker
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thats the worst article I've ever read he talks more about socom then he does mag.

reasons why mag is a 60 dollar beta.

  • all the balance issues from the beta existed in the retail product.
  • The majority of map design flaws reported 1000's of times in the beta still exist in the retail product.

A beta is ment to fix these types of things yet they exsited in the beta, and still in the retail product the latest update was supposed to fix these issues but I doubt we'll see SVER losing their status as invinicble anytime soon.

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#5 clubsammich91
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thats the worst article I've ever read he talks more about socom then he does mag.

reasons why mag is a 60 dollar beta.

  • all the balance issues from the beta existed in the retail product.
  • The majority of map design flaws reported 1000's of times in the beta still exist in the retail product.

A beta is ment to fix these types of things yet they exsited in the beta, and still in the retail product the latest update was supposed to fix these issues but I doubt we'll see SVER losing their status as invinicble anytime soon.

WilliamRLBaker
You must have not played the game recently. The latest patch fixed pretty much every balance issue the game had.
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#6 PSdual_wielder
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

thats the worst article I've ever read he talks more about socom then he does mag.

reasons why mag is a 60 dollar beta.

  • all the balance issues from the beta existed in the retail product.
  • The majority of map design flaws reported 1000's of times in the beta still exist in the retail product.

A beta is ment to fix these types of things yet they exsited in the beta, and still in the retail product the latest update was supposed to fix these issues but I doubt we'll see SVER losing their status as invinicble anytime soon.

clubsammich91

You must have not played the game recently. The latest patch fixed pretty much every balance issue the game had.

Not just recently, I doubt he's ever played the game at all. :P

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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

thats the worst article I've ever read he talks more about socom then he does mag.

reasons why mag is a 60 dollar beta.

  • all the balance issues from the beta existed in the retail product.
  • The majority of map design flaws reported 1000's of times in the beta still exist in the retail product.

A beta is ment to fix these types of things yet they exsited in the beta, and still in the retail product the latest update was supposed to fix these issues but I doubt we'll see SVER losing their status as invinicble anytime soon.

PSdual_wielder

You must have not played the game recently. The latest patch fixed pretty much every balance issue the game had.

Not just recently, I doubt he's ever played the game at all. :P

Nah, he has. Those issues he's complaining about were legitimate, but like I said, everything is all well and good after the latest patch. It's the perfect example of a developer listening to the feedback of a community.
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

thats the worst article I've ever read he talks more about socom then he does mag.

reasons why mag is a 60 dollar beta.

  • all the balance issues from the beta existed in the retail product.
  • The majority of map design flaws reported 1000's of times in the beta still exist in the retail product.

A beta is ment to fix these types of things yet they exsited in the beta, and still in the retail product the latest update was supposed to fix these issues but I doubt we'll see SVER losing their status as invinicble anytime soon.

clubsammich91

You must have not played the game recently. The latest patch fixed pretty much every balance issue the game had.

Jeez fanboys, at least read up a bit so you can PRETEND you know what you're talking about.

I'll say SOCOM 4 work might hinder the community support from Zipper on MAG regarding DLC, which would be a shame considering how its online only and a lot of great ideas could be put to use for DLC.

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#9 WilliamRLBaker
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  1. I've likely played the game in beta and retail longer then all of you combined.
  2. The Issues I said were legitimate nearly every single map design flaw, and balance issue existed in the beta moved to the retail.
  3. The patch nerfed nearly every weapon in the game, Most SVER battles still outcome in them winning, zipper didn't rebalance things smartly they just nerfed things like the bad developer they are.

So as I said the article is crap its more a support and poster article and advertisment for zipper and Socom *no wonder since its dualshockers* instead of a legititmate gripe about how MAG was still in beta since launch for 60 bucks and even now they didn't smartly rebalance the game and maps they just nerfed stuff.

When your game has to have so many patches after release *i do believe 1.03 is the 2nd to 3rd patch* then you know your product is still a beta.

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  1. I've likely played the game in beta and retail longer then all of you combined.
  2. The Issues I said were legitimate nearly every single map design flaw, and balance issue existed in the beta moved to the retail.
  3. The patch nerfed nearly every weapon in the game, Most SVER battles still outcome in them winning, zipper didn't rebalance things smartly they just nerfed things like the bad developer they are.

So as I said the article is crap its more a support and poster article and advertisment for zipper and Socom *no wonder since its dualshockers* instead of a legititmate gripe about how MAG was still in beta since launch for 60 bucks and even now they didn't smartly rebalance the game and maps they just nerfed stuff.

When your game has to have so many patches after release *i do believe 1.03 is the 2nd to 3rd patch* then you know your product is still a beta.

WilliamRLBaker

As a person who has put around 60 hours into the game I respectfully disagree. If you looked more closely at the patches they did more than just "nerf stuff". They did other stuff like: Get rid of that glitch on SVER's domination map where they can disarm C4 inside. Made the respec option cost 3000 XP so you can respec pretty much whenever you want. Made it so that stuff like bunkers, doors and AA batteries make a loud "beep" sound just before they explode(It helps a lot) and made it so that you don't lose XP when you kill one of your team mates when said stuff explodes. I for one am really enjoying this "beta".

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#11 MethodManFTW
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  1. I've likely played the game in beta and retail longer then all of you combined.
  2. The Issues I said were legitimate nearly every single map design flaw, and balance issue existed in the beta moved to the retail.
  3. The patch nerfed nearly every weapon in the game, Most SVER battles still outcome in them winning, zipper didn't rebalance things smartly they just nerfed things like the bad developer they are.

So as I said the article is crap its more a support and poster article and advertisment for zipper and Socom *no wonder since its dualshockers* instead of a legititmate gripe about how MAG was still in beta since launch for 60 bucks and even now they didn't smartly rebalance the game and maps they just nerfed stuff.

When your game has to have so many patches after release *i do believe 1.03 is the 2nd to 3rd patch* then you know your product is still a beta.

WilliamRLBaker
uhh... untrue. i play a crap load of MAG, and the domination map is slightly in SVER's favor.. but only the bunkers, once you get passed those its fair game... the acquisition map is in valors favor, and the sabotage maps are a toss up.
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#12 Zaibach
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Are alot of people still plaing MAG? thinking of geetting of getting it soon

Really dont know why zipper announced a new socom so soon though...kinda cannibalizes the MAG audience which hasnt reached its potential yet.

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#13 PSP107
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Are alot of people still plaing MAG? thinking of geetting of getting it soon

Really dont know why zipper announced a new socom so soon though...kinda cannibalizes the MAG audience which hasnt reached its potential yet.

thier probably not happy with the way it turned out.