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#1 arbitor365
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over spring break, got a chance to play MAG and I am perplexed at how much hate it has received since its release. well, actually thats a lie. im not perplexed. its a PS3 exclusive, so naturally it will be put under a microscope and held to standards that no games on any other platform are held to.

I just dont get why people cant appreciate its merits

1) its gunplay is solid. its at least on par with call of duty. in fact, its practically the same. so, I would think that it would be pretty palatable for a wide audience. there really is nothing wrong with the controls or game mechanics themselves

2) the level of customization. It gives you so many options in customizing your character and it has a very intricate leveling and point system. I see many people on SW who obsess about customization in online FPS games. and yet, they dont appreciate it at all here

3) the massive 200+ player battles. many PC gamers say that consoles cant compete in the size of their games. then this game comes along and they instantly pan it. interesting.

4) it has very in depth, tactical gameplay. it is a surprisingly smart game.

5) its graphics are pretty good and I have barely come across any lag. maybe if I played it longer I would get more lag. of course, I put in 6 or so hours, so its not an extremely laggy game.

with its massive scale battles, customization, and tactical gameplay, this seems like the kind of game that would be extremely popular among PC gamers if it were on the PC with better graphics. I guarantee that if this game were on the PC it would not have gotten the massive backlash that it received. or hell, if it were on the Xbox, it wouldnt have gotten half the scrutiny and nitpicking. it would have garnered far more 8s and 9s if that were the case.

People should give this game a fair chance and not believe all the blind hate surrounding it. dont jump on the bandwagon.

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#2 MonsieurX
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You're a year late.
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#3 WreckEm711
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Agreed, had an absolute blast playing it

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#4 arbitor365
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You're a year late.MonsieurX

i didnt play it until now because the "hate cloud" surrounded it deterred me from buying it at the time of its release.

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#5 Firebird-5
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everyone who loves their console always tells me that 64 players is too much!!! even 32 is too much!!!! i guess they really mean it
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#6 Grawse
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The game was amazing. I have about 165 hours played on it and enjoyed every second. The downfall was PS3 owners wouldn't know a good FPS if it slapped them across the face. Dom matches were litterally taking 10 minutes to get in. Only quick gamemodes were Sabo and Supression.

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#7 arbitor365
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everyone who loves their console always tells me that 64 players is too much!!! even 32 is too much!!!! i guess they really mean itFirebird-5

depends on the level design, sub genre, gunplay, health system, and so on.

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#8 gmaster456
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I've enjoyed it as well
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#9 Firebird-5
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[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]everyone who loves their console always tells me that 64 players is too much!!! even 32 is too much!!!! i guess they really mean itarbitor365

depends on the level design, sub genre, gunplay, health system, and so on.

i like big fights so i'd love to see MAG on the PC. oh well i guess we still got planetside
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#10 lawlessx
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If this game was on the PC and was exactly what was released on the PS3 it would've been a huge failure.
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#11 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]You're a year late.arbitor365

i didnt play it until now because the "hate cloud" surrounded it deterred me from buying it at the time of its release.

First rule of System Wars: Never ever listen to System Wars.
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#12 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]You're a year late.mrmusicman247

i didnt play it until now because the "hate cloud" surrounded it deterred me from buying it at the time of its release.

First rule of System Wars: Never ever listen to System Wars.

I thought the first rule of system wars was to not talk about it? [spoiler] Sorry..couldn't resist:P [/spoiler]

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#13 mitu123
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It's good but it does not have good graphics, Arma II has more players, came out earlier and has better graphics.

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#14 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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It is definitely underrated. Also most of the hate came from people who didn't even play the game. It is definitely one of the best FPS's that have been released in the past few years.
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#15 xYamatox
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Probably one of the best team-based shooter released, ever. MAG is living proof that gamers as a whole are complete hypocrits.

- No auto-regenerating life

- Open maps

- Large number of players

- Objective/team focused only

- Character Customizations

- Good clan support

- Tons of weapon attachments

- Players actually work together as opposed to lone-wolfing

- Snipers aren't insanely annoying

- Free updates that add new features to the game. Did I mention FREE?!

However, the game had/has a few problems, and the game was written off as horrible:

- Bad graphics

- Bad Audio

- Limited weapons you could use per spec (fixed with Update)

- Limited Maps (fixed with updates)

- No single player mode

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#16 KillerWabbit23
Member since 2009 • 3466 Posts

It's quite a fun game, especially when everyone's crowding together in Domination.

I didn't get the hate either.

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#17 arbitor365
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[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]You're a year late.mrmusicman247

i didnt play it until now because the "hate cloud" surrounded it deterred me from buying it at the time of its release.

First rule of System Wars: Never ever listen to System Wars.

it wasnt SW. it was generally the reviews I kept hearing. people kept saying that the massive size makes it frustrating and that it wasnt balanced. I could easily picture that being the case and it didnt sound like my kind of FPS game.

now that I've played it, my conclusion is that the people who complained about that stuff just sucked at the game. i found it to be alot less frustrating than Resistance 2's multiplayer, and I like R2.

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sucks buttocks. Guns are boring, graphics suck, long respawn times, and no one communicates.

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#19 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="arbitor365"]

i didnt play it until now because the "hate cloud" surrounded it deterred me from buying it at the time of its release.

arbitor365

First rule of System Wars: Never ever listen to System Wars.

it wasnt SW. it was generally the reviews I kept hearing. people kept saying that the massive size makes it frustrating and that it wasnt balanced. I could easily picture that being the case and it didnt sound like my kind of FPS game.

now that I've played it, my conclusion is that the people who complained about that stuff just sucked at the game. i found it to be alot less frustrating than Resistance 2's multiplayer, and I like R2.

yea, most of the people who hated on the game just sucked at it probably, or they tried to accomplish things on their own and not go with the team. But they probably would have found that they would suck less if they worked together. Understandably, it is easy to get frustrated when you have like 5 kills and 20 deaths.
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#20 xYamatox
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sucks buttocks. 1) Guns are boring, 2) graphics suck, 3) long respawn times, and 4) no one communicates.

2-10-08

1) Compared to what? Knives?

2) Because graphics is one of the biggest qualifying concepts to a good game, amiright?

3) Stop dying so much: Problem solved.

4) Put on a headset. You can hear people better that way.

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#21 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I rented it, I played a few games, and then returned it. It was bland, boring, and just didn't keep my interest for more than a few minutes. To each their own, I guess.
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#22 mitu123
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No one communicates???

In every match I played I hear people talking...

The health system is like BC1's Assault c1ass and that is awesome, wish more games had that.

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I enjoyed it quite a bit.
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#24 ChubbyGuy40
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I would totally agree is SVER wasn't still so damn f'ing powerful and theres more LMG snipers than actual snipers.

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#25 xYamatox
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I would totally agree is SVER wasn't still so damn f'ing powerful and theres more LMG snipers than actual snipers.

ChubbyGuy40

SVER is a product of better players. The factions might not be 100% balanced, but they aren't game-changing bad as some people want to make it seem. Maps are no longer dedicated to a specific faction, so map ownership is no longer an excuse, and the only thing SVER really have going for them is slightly stronger weapons with worst accuracy with them.

The LMG thing can get bad, though. :P

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#26 Heil68
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I tried it and I really didn't like it.
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#27 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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I would totally agree is SVER wasn't still so damn f'ing powerful and theres more LMG snipers than actual snipers.

ChubbyGuy40
The power balance has shifted actually, Raven was the best for a while, then Sver, Then valor for a bit, then SVER again, and idk who now since I haven't played in a couple months, but other than when the game first came out when SVER really dominated, the power balance has shifted from faction to faction which is actually a good thing.
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#28 ChubbyGuy40
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:o I haven't played in so long. Too many other games. Might have to fire it up again.

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#29 Nike_Air
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I love it. It's my most played game this generation surpassing the amazing Warhawk. I like thatyou candefend / attack any of the maps now with any of the factions.

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#30 WilliamRLBaker
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No it not it got the score it deserved the game was pretty much still in beta when released in retail taking 6 months for even the most basic problems to be ironed out least of all to say when the largest complaint in the actual 4 or so month beta * which I was apart of for near 3 and a half months* was that all of S.V.E.R's maps were highly biased to them it took them near 6 months to change this Its not hard you dont make the majority of map types where you can funnelpeople attacking you and have atleast 2 HQ gatling guns sitting shooting those choke points.

S.V.E.R when attacking had all sorts of cover. S.V.E.R when being attacked had clear vantage points.
I played the beta near 3 and a halfmonths purchased the game at launch promptly returned it within 20 days when I realized not a single one of the problems I reported was fixed alot of people felt that way actually.

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#31 ShadowDeathX
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I didn't like the static-ness.
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#32 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]You're a year late.mrmusicman247

i didnt play it until now because the "hate cloud" surrounded it deterred me from buying it at the time of its release.

First rule of System Wars: Never ever listen to System Wars.

soo much truth my head imploded

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#33 taterfrickintot
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i was teterred from the hate cloud too. i think this thread coninced me to check it out.

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#34 Grawse
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I would totally agree is SVER wasn't still so damn f'ing powerful and theres more LMG snipers than actual snipers.

ChubbyGuy40

For whatever reason SVER attracts all the good guys. Before I stopped playing Zipper finally nerfed SVER's Dom a bit making their damage meter fill up so quick. That Dom map was a terror, all the bunkers were so close together it was near impossible to play against an organized group.

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#35 deactivated-6040149309c71
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The game has changed a fair bit since it released though you have to remember.

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#36 eboyishere
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i was teterred from the hate cloud too. i think this thread coninced me to check it out.

taterfrickintot

honestly, rent a game before believing what is said on here, u could really miss out on great games

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#37 Nike_Air
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i was teterred from the hate cloud too. i think this thread coninced me to check it out.

taterfrickintot

Just be sure to give it time. It takes a little while to get good. Buy a Revive Kit as soon as you earn enough money so you can pick up teammates, and keep on upgrading your weapons , health , etc. It will start to click eventually. Pretty soon you'll be leadingsquads , setting fragos , dropping bombs , etc.

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#38 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

i was teterred from the hate cloud too. i think this thread coninced me to check it out.

Nike_Air

Just be sure to give it time. It takes a little while to get good. Buy a Revive Kit as soon as you earn enough money so you can pick up teammates, and keep on upgrading your weapons , health , etc. It will start to click eventually. Pretty soon you'll be leadingsquads , setting fragos , dropping bombs , etc.

Best advice when it comes to the game. You are going to suck when you start off, period. It's not call of duty where you just start off and can shred anyone, start out healing and rezzing so you can get points, then spec into something worthwhile

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#39 tomarlyn
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I wanted to like it, but I just hate it from top to bottom. I'd write a list of reasons but I'm tired.
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If this game was on the PC and was exactly what was released on the PS3 it would've been a huge failure.lawlessx

Wasnt it a huge failure anyways?

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#41 xOMGITSJASONx
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Its ok. I played the demo. Games like MAG need to evolve. Clean up the overall gameplay mecahnics, graphics and animations. More people would be MAG fans just with those changes.

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#42 lhughey
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i played the demo and the demo stunk it up badly. maybe the full game was better.
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MAG is a great, I wish I had gotten it sooner. I was just swamped with some many games from the holidays that I just didn't have time for another shooter (or game for that matter) at the time of MAG's release. I think a lot of the hate just comes from the fact the people suck at it. It's not an immediate pick up and play game like CoD, it takes a bit of time to learn all of the intricacies and the flow of how things go. It's definitely one of the more "intelligent" shooters out there that require teamwork, coordination, and communication. I think more people just need to sit down and give the game a chance instead of brushing it off just because they can't get a 15 killstreak and call in air trikes and helicopters on their first try.
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#44 TheAcountantMan
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Its not that good. Homefront is better than MAG, and thats not that good either.
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#45 ermacness
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Its not that good. Homefront is better than MAG, and thats not that good either.TheAcountantMan
This coming from a guy with a CoD:MW avatar, who would've thought this??!!?!!

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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]MAG is a great, I wish I had gotten it sooner. I was just swamped with some many games from the holidays that I just didn't have time for another shooter (or game for that matter) at the time of MAG's release. I think a lot of the hate just comes from the fact the people suck at it. It's not an immediate pick up and play game like CoD, it takes a bit of time to learn all of the intricacies and the flow of how things go. It's definitely one of the more "intelligent" shooters out there that require teamwork, coordination, and communication. I think more people just need to sit down and give the game a chance instead of brushing it off just because they can't get a 15 killstreak and call in air trikes and helicopters on their first try.

The only skill required is that you know how to camp the hotspots. Other than that, it's call of duty with less weapons and no perks.
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#47 AcidSoldner
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[QUOTE="2-10-08"][QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]MAG is a great, I wish I had gotten it sooner. I was just swamped with some many games from the holidays that I just didn't have time for another shooter (or game for that matter) at the time of MAG's release. I think a lot of the hate just comes from the fact the people suck at it. It's not an immediate pick up and play game like CoD, it takes a bit of time to learn all of the intricacies and the flow of how things go. It's definitely one of the more "intelligent" shooters out there that require teamwork, coordination, and communication. I think more people just need to sit down and give the game a chance instead of brushing it off just because they can't get a 15 killstreak and call in air trikes and helicopters on their first try.

The only skill required is that you know how to camp the hotspots. Other than that, it's call of duty with less weapons and no perks.

If you think thats the only skill required, then I hate to break it to you, but your doing it wrong. Camping is never required as objectives are always shifting and you can't really call it camping when you're on the defending side. If my objective is to is to defend a bunker then I'm gonna set up a perimeter with my squad and hold the position, not run off and try raise my K/D ratio.
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#48 tagyhag
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over spring break, got a chance to play MAG and I am perplexed at how much hate it has received since its release. well, actually thats a lie. im not perplexed. its a PS3 exclusive, so naturally it will be put under a microscope and held to standards that no games on any other platform are held to.

I just dont get why people cant appreciate its merits

with its massive scale battles, customization, and tactical gameplay, this seems like the kind of game that would be extremely popular among PC gamers if it were on the PC with better graphics. I guarantee that if this game were on the PC it would not have gotten the massive backlash that it received. or hell, if it were on the Xbox, it wouldnt have gotten half the scrutiny and nitpicking. it would have garnered far more 8s and 9s if that were the case.

People should give this game a fair chance and not believe all the blind hate surrounding it. dont jump on the bandwagon.

arbitor365

Show me the proof. :)

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#49 Silverbond
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I guarantee that if this game were on the PC it would not have gotten the massive backlash that it received. or hell, if it were on the Xbox, it wouldnt have gotten half the scrutiny and nitpicking. it would have garnered far more 8s and 9s if that were the case.arbitor365

Conspiracy?

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#50 drakekratos
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MAG is a lot better now than it was in beta stage. Sony should stop releasing so many betas. It leaves a bad taste in players mouths