MAG will be a sales flop, heres why.

Cows are allergic to paying to play multiplayer games.

If they were cool with it, they would all be paying to play on the superior LIVE service, rather then "settling" for the meh-rated PSN.

So MAG is doomed to flop in sales, unless cows are hypocritical...........if thats possible :roll:

Just like nobody bought Warhawk and still plays it... right?

oh, wait..

Just like nobody bought Warhawk and still plays it... right?

oh, wait..

Nightflash28

does it require a monthly subscription?

[QUOTE="Nightflash28"]

Just like nobody bought Warhawk and still plays it... right?

oh, wait..

-GhostMLD-

does it require a monthly subscription?

no?

Does MAG?

Just like nobody bought Warhawk and still plays it... right?

oh, wait..

Nightflash28

[QUOTE="Nightflash28"]

Just like nobody bought Warhawk and still plays it... right?

oh, wait..

heretrix

MMOs don't automatically require a monthly fee, you know.
So far, there's no word on that for MAG.

what makes the psn meh when it almost par with live. ps 3 on-line with no lag is what really counts the most playing on-line. so why pay for something if it is free with no lag.GARRYTH

Cows are allergic to paying to play multiplayer games.

If they were cool with it, they would all be paying to play on the superior LIVE service, rather then "settling" for the meh-rated PSN.

So MAG is doomed to flop in sales, unless cows are hypocritical...........if thats possible :roll:

-GhostMLD-

Have lemmings never been hypocritical?

How about how before MS released avatars people were knocking Sony for copying MS but as soon as MS does it to Nintendo it's somehow acceptable?

How about the "I dont buy my console to watch movies" argument but then they get excited over Netflicks, movie marketplace, and the rumors of a Blu Ray add on.

How about the fact you are sitting here talking about the PS3 as if you know everything about it when truth is you've probably never even touched one???

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Nightflash28"]

Just like nobody bought Warhawk and still plays it... right?

oh, wait..

Nightflash28

MMOs don't automatically require a monthly fee, you know.
So far, there's no word on that for MAG.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Cows are allergic to paying to play multiplayer games.

If they were cool with it, they would all be paying to play on the superior LIVE service, rather then "settling" for the meh-rated PSN.

So MAG is doomed to flop in sales, unless cows are hypocritical...........if thats possible :roll:

carljohnson3456

Have lemmings never been hypocritical?

How about how before MS released avatars people were knocking Sony for copying MS but as soon as MS does it to Nintendo it's somehow acceptable?

How about the "I dont buy my console to watch movies" argument but then they get excited over Netflicks, movie marketplace, and the rumors of a Blu Ray add on.

How about the fact you are sitting here talking about the PS3 as if you know everything about it when truth is you've probably never even touched one???

Well there goes the thread.

Since when is this a pay to play game? Link please. If you dont have one then well you fail again.Sully28

I was thinking the same thing...

I havent heard of a fee with this game.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Cows are allergic to paying to play multiplayer games.

If they were cool with it, they would all be paying to play on the superior LIVE service, rather then "settling" for the meh-rated PSN.

So MAG is doomed to flop in sales, unless cows are hypocritical...........if thats possible :roll:

carljohnson3456

Have lemmings never been hypocritical?

How about how before MS released avatars people were knocking Sony for copying MS but as soon as MS does it to Nintendo it's somehow acceptable?

How about the "I dont buy my console to watch movies" argument but then they get excited over Netflicks, movie marketplace, and the rumors of a Blu Ray add on.

How about the fact you are sitting here talking about the PS3 as if you know everything about it when truth is you've probably never even touched one???

ewww...touching one, i cringe at the thought.

Where is all this crap coming from about MAG being a MMO? It's massive, but I doubt it's going to have a big world to explore and adventure in. Just really big battles like mega battlefield servers. Besides, there has been a massive shooter before, it was called Tribes or something...Nerkcon

Theres a few games on PC like this, one being joint operations. Servers go up to over 160 people, and there are modded serves that take it up to 200. No fees, and its a great game.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Cows are allergic to paying to play multiplayer games.

If they were cool with it, they would all be paying to play on the superior LIVE service, rather then "settling" for the meh-rated PSN.

So MAG is doomed to flop in sales, unless cows are hypocritical...........if thats possible :roll:

carljohnson3456

Have lemmings never been hypocritical?

How about how before MS released avatars people were knocking Sony for copying MS but as soon as MS does it to Nintendo it's somehow acceptable?

How about the "I dont buy my console to watch movies" argument but then they get excited over Netflicks, movie marketplace, and the rumors of a Blu Ray add on.

How about the fact you are sitting here talking about the PS3 as if you know everything about it when truth is you've probably never even touched one???

1. Avatars have been around since almost the beginning of the Worldwideweb in chat applications.Miis do have the distinction of using them first on consoles though.

2. XBL video marketplace has been around for a couple of years before Sony's service, and you know the real reason while the lems were saying that.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Cows are allergic to paying to play multiplayer games.

If they were cool with it, they would all be paying to play on the superior LIVE service, rather then "settling" for the meh-rated PSN.

So MAG is doomed to flop in sales, unless cows are hypocritical...........if thats possible :roll:

-GhostMLD-

Have lemmings never been hypocritical?

How about how before MS released avatars people were knocking Sony for copying MS but as soon as MS does it to Nintendo it's somehow acceptable?

How about the "I dont buy my console to watch movies" argument but then they get excited over Netflicks, movie marketplace, and the rumors of a Blu Ray add on.

How about the fact you are sitting here talking about the PS3 as if you know everything about it when truth is you've probably never even touched one???

ewww...touching one, i cringe at the thought.

Yeah I know, right?

So where's the link for this pay to play subscription Ghost?

Where is all this crap coming from about MAG being a MMO? It's massive, but I doubt it's going to have a big world to explore and adventure in. Just really big battles like mega battlefield servers. Besides, there has been a massive shooter before, it was called Tribes or something...Nerkcon

MMO means massive multiplayer online, so MAG is an MMO.

Planetside on PC has up to 999 players. That was in 2003.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Cows are allergic to paying to play multiplayer games.

If they were cool with it, they would all be paying to play on the superior LIVE service, rather then "settling" for the meh-rated PSN.

So MAG is doomed to flop in sales, unless cows are hypocritical...........if thats possible :roll:

heretrix

Have lemmings never been hypocritical?

How about how before MS released avatars people were knocking Sony for copying MS but as soon as MS does it to Nintendo it's somehow acceptable?

How about the "I dont buy my console to watch movies" argument but then they get excited over Netflicks, movie marketplace, and the rumors of a Blu Ray add on.

How about the fact you are sitting here talking about the PS3 as if you know everything about it when truth is you've probably never even touched one???

1. Avatars have been around since almost the beginning of the Worldwideweb in chat applications.Miis do have the distinction of using them first on consoles though.

2. XBL video marketplace has been around for a couple of years before Sony's service, and you know the real reason while the lems were saying that.

Ah I know man, I'm just challenging Ghost. :)

You certainly cant tell him "all fanboys are hypocrites" when he talks about being a lemming as if it is a religion... literally.

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]Where is all this crap coming from about MAG being a MMO? It's massive, but I doubt it's going to have a big world to explore and adventure in. Just really big battles like mega battlefield servers. Besides, there has been a massive shooter before, it was called Tribes or something...Sully28

Theres a few games on PC like this, one being joint operations. Servers go up to over 160 people, and there are modded serves that take it up to 200. No fees, and its a great game.

So people still play Tribes? Which one should I get and where do I get it? I look at the list and saw the last one was on the PS2. Did it kill them? :( What other games are there that are like Tribes and MAG?

Where is all this crap coming from about MAG being a MMO? It's massive, but I doubt it's going to have a big world to explore and adventure in. Just really big battles like mega battlefield servers. Besides, there has been a massive shooter before, it was called Tribes or something...Nerkcon

Because it probably will be

"In fact it was shown to a focus group less than a month before E3. One among that group, after seeing the MAG E3 debut, reached out to me, under a promise of anonymity, to describe what was shown and asked of the group. Put simply, MAG — whatever title it comes out under — will be a mercenary combat MMO."

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Cows are allergic to paying to play multiplayer games.

If they were cool with it, they would all be paying to play on the superior LIVE service, rather then "settling" for the meh-rated PSN.

So MAG is doomed to flop in sales, unless cows are hypocritical...........if thats possible :roll:

carljohnson3456

Have lemmings never been hypocritical?

How about how before MS released avatars people were knocking Sony for copying MS but as soon as MS does it to Nintendo it's somehow acceptable?

How about the "I dont buy my console to watch movies" argument but then they get excited over Netflicks, movie marketplace, and the rumors of a Blu Ray add on.

How about the fact you are sitting here talking about the PS3 as if you know everything about it when truth is you've probably never even touched one???

1. Avatars have been around since almost the beginning of the Worldwideweb in chat applications.Miis do have the distinction of using them first on consoles though.

2. XBL video marketplace has been around for a couple of years before Sony's service, and you know the real reason while the lems were saying that.

Ah I know man, I'm just challenging Ghost. :)

You certainly cant tell him "all fanboys are hypocrites" when he talks about being a lemming as if it is a religion... literally.

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]Where is all this crap coming from about MAG being a MMO? It's massive, but I doubt it's going to have a big world to explore and adventure in. Just really big battles like mega battlefield servers. Besides, there has been a massive shooter before, it was called Tribes or something...Baranga

MMO means massive multiplayer online, so MAG is an MMO.

Planetside on PC has up to 999 players. That was in 2003.

MAG is not a MMO. For it to be a MMO it has to have a huge consistent world. Unless there are great landscapes people are traveling over to get to and from points of interest it's not a MMO. Guild Wars isn't a MMO either but if you think it is I'll give up on you for this argument. Lemmings just want it to be aMMO so it can fail because it needs a fee. What what if it IS aMMO and it does NOT have a fee, what then Lemmings? :|

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Cows are allergic to paying to play multiplayer games.

If they were cool with it, they would all be paying to play on the superior LIVE service, rather then "settling" for the meh-rated PSN.

So MAG is doomed to flop in sales, unless cows are hypocritical...........if thats possible :roll:

heretrix

Have lemmings never been hypocritical?

How about how before MS released avatars people were knocking Sony for copying MS but as soon as MS does it to Nintendo it's somehow acceptable?

How about the "I dont buy my console to watch movies" argument but then they get excited over Netflicks, movie marketplace, and the rumors of a Blu Ray add on.

How about the fact you are sitting here talking about the PS3 as if you know everything about it when truth is you've probably never even touched one???

1. Avatars have been around since almost the beginning of the Worldwideweb in chat applications.Miis do have the distinction of using them first on consoles though.

2. XBL video marketplace has been around for a couple of years before Sony's service, and you know the real reason while the lems were saying that.

Ah I know man, I'm just challenging Ghost. :)

You certainly cant tell him "all fanboys are hypocrites" when he talks about being a lemming as if it is a religion... literally.

have faith in the lemming brotherhood and you may be delievered to your salvation.

[QUOTE="Sully28"]

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]Where is all this crap coming from about MAG being a MMO? It's massive, but I doubt it's going to have a big world to explore and adventure in. Just really big battles like mega battlefield servers. Besides, there has been a massive shooter before, it was called Tribes or something...Nerkcon

Theres a few games on PC like this, one being joint operations. Servers go up to over 160 people, and there are modded serves that take it up to 200. No fees, and its a great game.

So people still play Tribes? Which one should I get and where do I get it? I look at the list and saw the last one was on the PS2. Did it kill them? :( What other games are there that are like Tribes and MAG?

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]Where is all this crap coming from about MAG being a MMO? It's massive, but I doubt it's going to have a big world to explore and adventure in. Just really big battles like mega battlefield servers. Besides, there has been a massive shooter before, it was called Tribes or something...Nerkcon

MMO means massive multiplayer online, so MAG is an MMO.

Planetside on PC has up to 999 players. That was in 2003.

MAG is not a MMO. For it to be a MMO it has to have a huge consistent world. Unless there are great landscapes people are traveling over to get to and from points of interest it's not a MMO. Guild Wars isn't a MMO either but if you think it is I'll give up on you for this argument. Lemmings just want it to be aMMO so it can fail because it needs a fee. What what if it IS aMMO and it does NOT have a fee, what then Lemmings? :|

You're thinking of a MMORPG. MMOs do not need large consistent worlds.

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]what makes the psn meh when it almost par with live. ps 3 on-line with no lag is what really counts the most playing on-line. so why pay for something if it is free with no lag.heretrix

have faith in the lemming brotherhood and you may be delievered to your salvation.

-GhostMLD-

Lol. Dude you crack me up.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="GARRYTH"]what makes the psn meh when it almost par with live. ps 3 on-line with no lag is what really counts the most playing on-line. so why pay for something if it is free with no lag.GARRYTH

I have FIOS also.:| I have the 20up/5down service. You'll still get lag.

Like I said, if you think that PSN has no lag you have no idea what you are talking about.

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]Where is all this crap coming from about MAG being a MMO? It's massive, but I doubt it's going to have a big world to explore and adventure in. Just really big battles like mega battlefield servers. Besides, there has been a massive shooter before, it was called Tribes or something...sleepingzzz

MMO means massive multiplayer online, so MAG is an MMO.

Planetside on PC has up to 999 players. That was in 2003.

MAG is not a MMO. For it to be a MMO it has to have a huge consistent world. Unless there are great landscapes people are traveling over to get to and from points of interest it's not a MMO. Guild Wars isn't a MMO either but if you think it is I'll give up on you for this argument. Lemmings just want it to be a MMO so it can fail because it needs a fee. What what if it IS a MMO and it does NOT have a fee, what then Lemmings? :|

You're thinking of a MMORPG. MMOs do not need large consistent worlds.

You're thinking of misguided press mislabeling everything. Legend of Zelda is not a RPG, Dynasty Warriors is not a Strategy game, and a game online only or having a 100 players or more, does not make it a MMO. What makes a MMORPG is RPGness such as leveling, the used to death DnD fantasy world and cla.sses, along other things. A MMO has to be a massive world. I have seen MMORTS games with large consistent worlds.

But whatever, if Zelda is a RPG (that Japanese guy I can't spell said so himself) then any game over the standard player limit (32 players) could be a MMO, I guess.

Massively multiplayer - check

Online - check

yep seems like MAG, Guild wars Tribes etc. are MMO's

[QUOTE="sleepingzzz"][QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]Where is all this crap coming from about MAG being a MMO? It's massive, but I doubt it's going to have a big world to explore and adventure in. Just really big battles like mega battlefield servers. Besides, there has been a massive shooter before, it was called Tribes or something...Nerkcon

MMO means massive multiplayer online, so MAG is an MMO.

Planetside on PC has up to 999 players. That was in 2003.

MAG is not a MMO. For it to be a MMO it has to have a huge consistent world. Unless there are great landscapes people are traveling over to get to and from points of interest it's not a MMO. Guild Wars isn't a MMO either but if you think it is I'll give up on you for this argument. Lemmings just want it to be aMMO so it can fail because it needs a fee. What what if it IS aMMO and it does NOT have a fee, what then Lemmings? :|

You're thinking of a MMORPG. MMOs do not need large consistent worlds.

You're thinking of misguided press mislabeling everything. Legend of Zelda is not a RPG, Dynasty Warriors is not a Strategy game, and a game people only only or having a 100 players or over does not make it a MMO. What makes a MMORPG is RPGness such as leveling, the used to death DnD fantasy of class, along other things. A MMO has to be a massive world. I have seen MMORTS games with large consistent worlds.

But whatever, if Zelda is a RPG (that Japan guy I can't spell said so himself) then any game over the stand play limit (32 players) could be a MMO, I guess.

That guy from the link is wha tI'm tlaking about. And I had always hated that website. But here is my proof he is wrong and MAg isn't a MMO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMO

A massively multiplayer online game (also called MMOG or simply MMO) is a video game which is capable of supporting hundreds or thousands of players simultaneously. By necessity, they are played on the Internet, and feature at least one persistent world. They are, however, not necessarily games played on personal computers. Most of the newer game consoles, including the Xbox 360, PlayStation Portable, PlayStation 3, Nintendo DS and Wii can access the Internet and thus can have MMO genre games.

MMOGs can enable players to cooperate and compete with each other on a grand scale, and sometimes to interact meaningfully with people around the world. They include a variety of gameplay types, representing many video game genres. Many MMOGs require players to invest large amounts of their time into the game. Most MMOGs require a monthly subscription fee, but some can be played for free.

If it's just battle to battle then it's not a MMO. But what does it matter if the game is fun? Diablo 2 players use to start argurments that Diablo 2 was a MMO.

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="GARRYTH"]what makes the psn meh when it almost par with live. ps 3 on-line with no lag is what really counts the most playing on-line. so why pay for something if it is free with no lag.heretrix

I have FIOS also.:| I have the 20up/5down service. You'll still get lag.

Like I said, if you think that PSN has no lag you have no idea what you are talking about.

That guy from the link is wha tI'm tlaking about. And I had always hated that website. But here is my proof he is wrong and MAg isn't a MMO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMO

A massively multiplayer online game (also called MMOG or simply MMO) is a video game which is capable of supporting hundreds or thousands of players simultaneously. By necessity, they are played on the Internet, and feature at least one persistent world. They are, however, not necessarily games played on personal computers. Most of the newer game consoles, including the Xbox 360, PlayStation Portable, PlayStation 3, Nintendo DS and Wii can access the Internet and thus can have MMO genre games.

MMOGs can enable players to cooperate and compete with each other on a grand scale, and sometimes to interact meaningfully with people around the world. They include a variety of gameplay types, representing many video game genres. Many MMOGs require players to invest large amounts of their time into the game. Most MMOGs require a monthly subscription fee, but some can be played for free.

If it's just battle to battle then it's not a MMO. But what does it matter if the game is fun? Diablo 2 players use to start argurments that Diablo 2 was a MMO.

Nerkcon

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="GARRYTH"]what makes the psn meh when it almost par with live. ps 3 on-line with no lag is what really counts the most playing on-line. so why pay for something if it is free with no lag.GARRYTH

I have FIOS also.:| I have the 20up/5down service. You'll still get lag.

Like I said, if you think that PSN has no lag you have no idea what you are talking about.

It's like that perpetual lie cows like to throw out that "all PS3 games have dedicated servers". there are currently like under 10 titles that have that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_first-person_shooter#Massive_Action_Game_.28MAG.29

See I can use wiki as well :roll: