MAG will not Score or Play Well!

anyone who is in the beta knows this honestly.....compared to other shooters this gen its almost at the bottom.....the graphics look like something on the ps2 and the shooting mechanics are not on par with KZ2 HALO 3 BF and even Resistance.....

alot of people are saying there is a ton of people and its like teamwork? when in the beta has there been any team work its every man for himeslf either sitting in a turrent just shooting all round or individuals actually trying to complete the objectives...

the game gives u no clear description of what needs to be done either to acheive these objectives....

sorry but even tho im biased towards my ps3 this game will not be anything special

I cant even play the beta. I keep getting errors it wont let me get past the choose a character stage

Downloaded the beta (like 2.4g) patiently waited, made my character and got an error message. So yeah, this already doesn't play well.

anyone who is in the beta knows this honestly.....compared to other shooters this gen its almost at the bottom.....the graphics look like something on the ps2 and the shooting mechanics are not on par with KZ2 HALO 3 BF and even Resistance.....

alot of people are saying there is a ton of people and its like teamwork? when in the beta has there been any team work its every man for himeslf either sitting in a turrent just shooting all round or individuals actually trying to complete the objectives...

the game gives u no clear description of what needs to be done either to acheive these objectives....

sorry but even tho im biased towards my ps3 this game will not be anything special

stereointegrity

I disliked the beta aswell, just not a fun game. It's main selling point is 256 players in one game, but when I played I almost forgot there was even that many players, cause you hardly can tell the difference.

Also I have a feeling it is going to be like Socom Confrontation when it launched, where the online isn't going to work, and will recieve awful reviews for this, and because it's not a good game in the first place.

I have been getting errors too, but when I was playing the earlier beta from my preorder I didn't have any problems with the game. The game is actually fun, you just have to get out of you low levels guys. Right now, every one is a low level becuase the beta just reopened. Once people level up to where you have squad leaders and platoon leaders and such, it becomes a lot better. Also you gota lot of new people playing that might not know how to strategize that well or know how to play as a team and only know how to go rambo. Playing in the earlier beta we had a lot of teamwork and it was a lot of fun.

Ya'll should know by now that you have to sacrifice something to get the mass amount of people this game has. Usually it is the graphics. Usually the graphics in multiplayer are not as good as the single player is most games. The graphics had to be sacrificed for the game to be able to handle 256 players.

Bottom line is this. Give the game some time guys. At least level up a little bit and try to get high enough to get to be a squad leader, or high enough to do domination,and make sure you get resuciation. If you don't like it after that, then that is fine.

Well from my experience in Private Beta i wont get this game. From the moment the dropped me in the battlefield i was overwhelmed, i didnt know what what to do. Plus the shooting mechanics didn't feel satisfying like Killzone 2 of MW2.But i think the Socom crowd will eat it up

Clan wars would be pretty fun though. If they all had the people, and organization.

I am actually enjoying this beta, while I enjoyed KZ2, I just couldn't get into it for some reason, this though plays great.

I play MAG beta...honestly it's soso...

it doesnt have self healing blood system likemainstreamFPS...and control layout is different with FPS too

it also have too many commands...it takes forever to memorized thos keys especially no one is going to memroize it unless it's a fun game.

it's also very bad for solo FPS players, you must play with your friend, otherwise you get will owned by clan teams...

no Free for all (my favor mode in COD).

it also takes too long to enter a game...i waitted 30 mins to get in a game in dec...

the whole ideal of organization and teamwork in fps is lame...it's FPS, not mmorpg.

who wants to do socializing in fps games. it's going to fail for sure.

Personally I feel there's a fatal flaw in a large number of players like that.

Take something like TF2 for example, which has a maximum of 32 players. While the objectives are very clear you'll quite often find two groups of players. Those trying to acheive the goals, and those playing deathmatch, i.e, standing around not doing anything towards the objective, or to help the team. This is because they feel that "someone else" will take care of it. Now, if you look at that same game with a smaller amount of players you'll see everyone has to pull their weight or face the consequences of slacking off (dying a lot, losing the objectives etc).

Apply this to a game with 256 players (and correct me if I'm wrong but those players are spread across various games?) and you get a lot of people wanting the top score rather than achieving the objective. The best way to combat this is to make the achieving the objective more rewarding, encourage players to go for the objective rather than each other. Encourage players to help each other etc. Granted, I haven't actually played MAG, but it seems as if there's no reason or reward to do anything other than deathmatch.

the whole ideal of organization and teamwork in fps is lame...it's FPS, not mmorpg.

who wants to do socializing in fps games. it's going to fail for sure.

oajlu

Lol. Try playing a class based FPS, especially try out TF2 on the PC and see the level of co-operation and socialising between strangers. In that game each player has a clearly defined role based on the class they're playing. I'm not sure how MAG works in regards to giving indiviual players gameplay-based roles.

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

the whole ideal of organization and teamwork in fps is lame...it's FPS, not mmorpg.

who wants to do socializing in fps games. it's going to fail for sure.

DigitalExile

Lol. Try playing a class based FPS, especially try out TF2 on the PC and see the level of co-operation and socialising between strangers. In that game each player has a clearly defined role based on the class they're playing. I'm not sure how MAG works in regards to giving indiviual players gameplay-based roles.

i have kz2, and yeah i have fun with it.

in kz2, even my team sucks, i still can manage to get good k/d ratio.

but i just feel wrong on MAG mechanics...it's not as smooth as COD and KZ2.

btw wtf, they just open beta today, i believe everyone has to start from level 1 rite, how come i already see ppl with leve 30...

i thought you cant use your character from previous beta.

Isn't the point of a beta to find and fix problems. I am not say that this game is going to get AAA like it was hyped before the beta, but there is still a lot of room to fix the game (which will be easier because of all of the feedback the beta got).

Isn't the point of a beta to find and fix problems. I am not say that this game is going to get AAA like it was hyped before the beta, but there is still a lot of room to fix the game (which will be easier because of all of the feedback the beta got).

Jacobistheman

Im pretty sure the game has already gone gold, meaning its complete.

i just played it for 2 hours and it is fun. when i first started palying i thought how average. but the more you play and start to understand everything the game does you will be having a ball. the grafx are barely ok but the depth and fun are awesome. if you dont enjoy mag you wont like bf or mw2. but if you like those games you will find mag fun. no kz2 and reach should be better in some aspects (grafx, community) but its still fun.

i really don't see it getting higher than 7.5. I'll still get it though because I enjoyed the beta to a pretty good extent.

So it will not score and play well, what about selling well? It is an online only game that's $59.99.

will it score well? AA thats a good score.

Will it play well? yes in some ways, but not in all.

MAG does not represent its genre very well. It brings nothing new to the table and it does everything else poorly.

MAG is great.. i thought the same thing when i first played it because its not a arcade pick up shooter like MW2 where you can run around with dual shotguns and own everyone.. It takes skill and stratregy and its honestly a breath of fresh air. I love the game now and has a much more deeper leveling system than MW2. I predict AA here

I just got off of the beta, and I am disappointed, yet it is what I was expecting.

Disappointed because of the poor graphics, art style and animation. This is like a first generation PS3 game. I understand to have so many people playing you have to sacrifice something, but, I didn't think it would be this large of a sacrifice. I know it's a beta, but the game comes out in three weeks.

What I was expecting because only a few people had mics. This is a game that will require alot of teamwork and strategy, especially when attacking. With no Mics and no coordination, it is just a poor mans TDM. Shoot, 3 of the 4 squad leaders weren't talking or giving direction. The one that was, he was just complaning about the whereabouts of everyone.

I can get past the poor presentation if I could get on a well coordinated team and play the game as it was intended. It has potential, but I do not see that potential being fulfilled.

Isn't the point of a beta to find and fix problems. I am not say that this game is going to get AAA like it was hyped before the beta, but there is still a lot of room to fix the game (which will be easier because of all of the feedback the beta got).

Jacobistheman

Nice rant Madame Cleo, maybe you can tell me the lottery numbers? Yeesh its not even OUT yet, and everybody is making predictions, Half are people saying it will be an amazing step forward, the other half are denouncing it as garbage.

I for one think it has a lot of potential, and the beta makes post launch support seem very likely which could mean free new gear and maps, with some big DLC thrown in now and again,plus I love Zipper's work. On the other hand, the only original things are the FRAGos and player count, and even then everything seems derived from a concept some other game has done.

I loved the beta, but I'm reserving judgement until I have a copy in my hands.

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"]

Isn't the point of a beta to find and fix problems. I am not say that this game is going to get AAA like it was hyped before the beta, but there is still a lot of room to fix the game (which will be easier because of all of the feedback the beta got).

Cherokee_Jack

lol i think they made it worse than last beta...i played beta in nov and i reinstalled it yesterday.

after 1 hours on MAG, 30 mins waitting and 30mins gameplay. I deleted it from my HDD.

The defenses of MAG that pops up in these threads pretty much indicates that it will be one of those games that has its fans but is overall lacking too much polish and "togetherness" to satisfy most players.

Nice rant Madame Cleo, maybe you can tell me the lottery numbers? Yeesh its not even OUT yet, and everybody is making predictions, Half are people saying it will be an amazing step forward, the other half are denouncing it as garbage.

I for one think it has a lot of potential, and the beta makes post launch support seem very likely which could mean free new gear and maps, with some big DLC thrown in now and again,plus I love Zipper's work. On the other hand, the only original things are the FRAGos and player count, and even then everything seems derived from a concept some other game has done.

I loved the beta, but I'm reserving judgement until I have a copy in my hands.

SPYDER0416

It's going to have to be a thousand timesmore polished to be an amazing step forward. 256 players ain't gonna do it. The mistake MAG's defenders are making IMO is that they are not looking at the game in a holistic sense.

Nice rant Madame Cleo, maybe you can tell me the lottery numbers? Yeesh its not even OUT yet, and everybody is making predictions, Half are people saying it will be an amazing step forward, the other half are denouncing it as garbage.

I for one think it has a lot of potential, and the beta makes post launch support seem very likely which could mean free new gear and maps, with some big DLC thrown in now and again,plus I love Zipper's work. On the other hand, the only original things are the FRAGos and player count, and even then everything seems derived from a concept some other game has done.

I loved the beta, but I'm reserving judgement until I have a copy in my hands.

SPYDER0416

So it will not score and play well, what about selling well? It is an online only game that's $59.99.

gago-gago

Personally I feel there's a fatal flaw in a large number of players like that.

Take something like TF2 for example, which has a maximum of 32 players. While the objectives are very clear you'll quite often find two groups of players. Those trying to acheive the goals, and those playing deathmatch, i.e, standing around not doing anything towards the objective, or to help the team. This is because they feel that "someone else" will take care of it. Now, if you look at that same game with a smaller amount of players you'll see everyone has to pull their weight or face the consequences of slacking off (dying a lot, losing the objectives etc).

Apply this to a game with 256 players (and correct me if I'm wrong but those players are spread across various games?) and you get a lot of people wanting the top score rather than achieving the objective. The best way to combat this is to make the achieving the objective more rewarding, encourage players to go for the objective rather than each other. Encourage players to help each other etc. Granted, I haven't actually played MAG, but it seems as if there's no reason or reward to do anything other than deathmatch.

DigitalExile

Thats an interesting, and correct way to sum it up. However, these guys are trying to pull off the ol' if you do this, it'll be much more worth it. They always say that though, dont they? I'd say lets wait and see but again, you are probably spot on. This game however, really isnt something to hype up as best, anything. Its got a unique, in a sense, approach to the genre. Thats it.

I downloaded the beta (which took ****ing hours), and cant even get it to work. I know it's a beta but still. Looks trash anyway, been saying that since mega cows have been hyping it on 256 players.

wahay! more future telling gamespotters!tirralirra

I feel like i'm the only one who enjoys the game :(racing1750

[QUOTE="racing1750"]I feel like i'm the only one who enjoys the game :(stereointegrity

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="racing1750"]I feel like i'm the only one who enjoys the game :(racing1750

The game does a find job pointing out the objectives you need to secure. The gun play is fine. No better or worse than most console shooters. What I like is that there isn't any regenerating health, and medics are a huge battlefield asset. Graphics don't make the game. I find it hard to agree with anything you've said. You can't judge a teamwork based game on a PUG. I don't care how well the game is setup people will run around like its COD and just kill stuff. Playing with the right group of people, there is alot of room for deep strategy in this game. More so than most console FPSers.

duh, it's an online only game on a Console. It's doomed from the Start.

Just like Final Fantasy 11 and soon to be 14.

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]haha no there are a few more around herestereointegrity

Who the hell cares about the graphics...the 2 things I hate the most are the WEAK ass guns, and the fact that you cannot access the entire map at all times. I was expecting all 256 players to be able to interact, but I guess not.

umm no the game looks great considering how many players it supports and looks much better then socom confrontation. imo its gonna be a really good game

I feel like i'm the only one who enjoys the game :(racing1750

[QUOTE="racing1750"]I feel like i'm the only one who enjoys the game :(Arctic_Grillz