Make me want a wii

seriously, I love Nintendo, I have always been a sheep and I will most likely be picking up a wii cause its a damn nintendo system, but I wanna see what the hell the fuss is about cause all I see is minigames and nothing much else

PROVE TO ME THAT THE WII IS "HARDCORE" plz 

right now there is only really one game I really want and thats SSBB, the rest of WIi Games look REALLY lackluster to an actual gamer like me, compared to things like Mass Effect, Too Human, Halo 3, Lost Odyssey, Gears 2, Bioshock, Alan Wake, Forza 2, Eternal Sonata, Fable 2, PGR4, Crimson Skies 2, Blue Dragon, Dead Rising 2, Shadowrun, Splinter Cell 5, and Banjo Threeie Wii Games to me look sad

I mean if they ported morrowind to the wii with a battle system like oblivion then that might be awesome, or if they finnally made a Pokemon MMO buut

Ive lost interest in Zelda thanks to TP

Metroid Prime sucks I want the 2D ones back

they still have yet to revolutionise the kirby franchise and give him his own 3D Adventure game like Mario 64

pikmin never interested me

I've never really gotten into a mario platformer becides mario sunshine (loved it)

Mario Kart used to be fun with friends, but its just been the same old thing

Mario Sport 1 Mario SPort 2 and Mario Sport 3 never ever interested me 

a True Donkey Kong game doesnt exist anymore

Mario Party is possibly the lamest thing alive

Advanced Wars never made a good 2D - 3D transfer

I never did try F-zero GC though, although I kinda liked the SNES version way back when, nothing too special though

Wario again another good series turned into minigame crap

I guess I had to grow out of them after awhile...

but I am wonderign what actual hardcore deep game expiriences does the wii supply?

the only thing that comes to mind is No More Heroes, but al lI have seen is a cinematic trailer and I never did like Killer7

the only game I will be buying a wii for is SSBB, and if Capcomn announces Power stone 3 for the 360 anytime soon I will prolly loose insterest in SSBB also.. IDK prolly not, lol I could play both

also, no one say sadness plz, I hate horror (becides mebbe alan wake, it seems more adventure than anything) 

Get Banjo 3 or the next PD oh wait........................

*puts a gun to your head...?*Zhengi

*Now squeal like a piggy... *

After listing those games for the 360/PS3, I dunno why you want someone to give you reasons to buy a Wii.  Is it because you want one but don't see the need for it yet?  If you don't want a Wii, don't waste time having people give you reasons, just wait for the good games on 360 and PS3. 

But if you need reasons, even though I'm not fully for the Wii yet, there are many reasons to get a Wii. 

• Fun to play with friends at parties
• Super Smash Bros. Brawl
• Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda Wii (reason I am going to get a Wii), Metroid Prime 3, Super Paper Mario,  Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles...etc. with the games (even though you said you don't like some of those games, I listed them anyways cause they will probably be good regardless)
• Virtual Console

at a normal day like this i would tell you to f### off but ok i feel like writing a positive topic, first of all ironic thing you compare the lack of games of wii to the 360 when we all know that 360 had it's lack of games when it came out.

didn't you play f-zero gc it one of the best racers in fact the gcn version is almost without flaw it is great game and a wii instalment would only get better.

 No more heroes isn't like Killer 7 it's almost on a contrary while Killer 7 was on rails No more heroes is a free roaming adventure/accion game.

 good games are on the way fact and the new zelda will be a totaly different experience taken out of aounoma mouth.

SuperMechaKirby... lolz... clearly the name of a LEMMING! Seriously, don't come here with a lemming name, a robot (clearly MASTER CHIEF, Halo loving NOOBLET) in your sig and expect us to take you seriously.

I will show you how HARDCORE the Wii is:

          -Old School Graphics - the same graphics you fell in love with in 2001
          -Killer Line Up - harcore games like Cooking Mama and Nintendogs
          -Stereo Sound - the BEST in sound output
          -Rare Voice Support - reading text is killer hardcore.
          -Difficult Games - in Sonic and the Secret rings there are multiple paths. Thinking abounds!
          -Mario - nothing is more hardcore than a chubby plumber in overalls who pops shrooms
          -Best Audience - 75% of Wii owners are kids under 14 and women over 40, the untapped killer hardcore audience!
          -First Party Only - every knows third parties *never* produce hardcore games. Castlevania? more like n00bvania!
      
          If you cannot see how utterly "owned" you are, and that the Wii is the most hardcore system ever, and continue to insist that titles like Geometry Wars, Ikaruga, Eternal Darkness, Odin Sphere, and Disgaea are more "hardcore" games, you are clearly a fanboy, or y'know, not blind. Stab out your eyes and join the revolution!
subrosian

Self-owned, Nintendogs hasn't been announced on the Wii :P

SuperMechaKirby... lolz... clearly the name of a LEMMING! Seriously, don't come here with a lemming name, a robot (clearly MASTER CHIEF, Halo loving NOOBLET) in your sig and expect us to take you seriously.

I will show you how HARDCORE the Wii is:

          -Old School Graphics - the same graphics you fell in love with in 2001
          -Killer Line Up - harcore games like Cooking Mama and Nintendogs
          -Stereo Sound - the BEST in sound output
          -Rare Voice Support - reading text is killer hardcore.
          -Difficult Games - in Sonic and the Secret rings there are multiple paths. Thinking abounds!
          -Mario - nothing is more hardcore than a chubby plumber in overalls who pops shrooms
          -Best Audience - 75% of Wii owners are kids under 14 and women over 40, the untapped killer hardcore audience!
          -First Party Only - every knows third parties *never* produce hardcore games. Castlevania? more like n00bvania!
      
          If you cannot see how utterly "owned" you are, and that the Wii is the most hardcore system ever, and continue to insist that titles like Geometry Wars, Ikaruga, Eternal Darkness, Odin Sphere, and Disgaea are more "hardcore" games, you are clearly a fanboy, or y'know, not blind. Stab out your eyes and join the revolution!
subrosian

Have a nice day.

Wii is an awesome system.
subrosian

That isn't an announcement, that's them thinking about what they could do to advance the game

EDIT: But I was just joking anyways... so yeah, there's no need for this

SuperMechaKirby... lolz... clearly the name of a LEMMING! Seriously, don't come here with a lemming name, a robot (clearly MASTER CHIEF, Halo loving NOOBLET) in your sig and expect us to take you seriously.

I will show you how HARDCORE the Wii is:

-Old School Graphics - the same graphics you fell in love with in 2001
-Killer Line Up - harcore games like Cooking Mama and Nintendogs
-Motion Sensitivty - because 95% of non-sports games are UNPLAYABLE without it!
-Stereo Sound - the BEST in sound output
-Rare Voice Support - reading text is killer hardcore.
-Difficult Games - in Sonic and the Secret rings there are multiple paths. Thinking abounds!
-Mario - nothing is more hardcore than a chubby plumber in overalls who pops shrooms
-Best Audience - 75% of Wii owners are kids under 14 and women over 40, the untapped killer hardcore audience!
-First Party Only - every knows third parties *never* produce hardcore games. Castlevania? more like n00bvania!

If you cannot see how utterly "owned" you are, and that the Wii is the most hardcore system ever, and continue to insist that titles like Geometry Wars, Ikaruga, Eternal Darkness, Odin Sphere, and Disgaea are more "hardcore" games, you are clearly a fanboy, or y'know, not blind. Stab out your eyes and join the revolution!
subrosian

that is true though. lol if you can put up with all of that then your a hardcore gamer. 

[QUOTE="subrosian"]SuperMechaKirby... lolz... clearly the name of a LEMMING! Seriously, don't come here with a lemming name, a robot (clearly MASTER CHIEF, Halo loving NOOBLET) in your sig and expect us to take you seriously.

I will show you how HARDCORE the Wii is:

-Old School Graphics - the same graphics you fell in love with in 2001
-Killer Line Up - harcore games like Cooking Mama and Nintendogs
-Stereo Sound - the BEST in sound output
-Rare Voice Support - reading text is killer hardcore.
-Difficult Games - in Sonic and the Secret rings there are multiple paths. Thinking abounds!
-Mario - nothing is more hardcore than a chubby plumber in overalls who pops shrooms
-Best Audience - 75% of Wii owners are kids under 14 and women over 40, the untapped killer hardcore audience!
-First Party Only - every knows third parties *never* produce hardcore games. Castlevania? more like n00bvania!

If you cannot see how utterly "owned" you are, and that the Wii is the most hardcore system ever, and continue to insist that titles like Geometry Wars, Ikaruga, Eternal Darkness, Odin Sphere, and Disgaea are more "hardcore" games, you are clearly a fanboy, or y'know, not blind. Stab out your eyes and join the revolution!
Shinobishyguy

I wasn't aware Mario Galaxy and Brawl we're hardcore. You can call me a "fanboy" if you like, though the only thing I'm a fan of is pushing games for art. You let me know when Nintendo stops half-assing it, ok?

He asked me to prove the Wii is hardcore, and I did the best I could to do so. There's nothing hardcore about your system, it has been commodized to the point where my grandmother isn't confused or threatened by it - and yet everyday I have to listen to the rants about sales and how the Wii is a revolution because - get this - you control the games by moving your hands!


Metroid Prime 3 is the closest thing you get to a core game on the Wii - it's about gameplay by the way (the thing you Nintendo fanboys rant about) and not violence - games like Godfather DO NOT appeal to a hardcore audience. You will never see a title like Odin Sphere on the Wii, and you'll never see a title like Eternal Darkness on a Nintendo console ever again. The Wii is many things to many people, but the one thing it is not, and will never be, is hardcore.

Ok??

[QUOTE="subrosian"]SuperMechaKirby... lolz... clearly the name of a LEMMING! Seriously, don't come here with a lemming name, a robot (clearly MASTER CHIEF, Halo loving NOOBLET) in your sig and expect us to take you seriously.

I will show you how HARDCORE the Wii is:

-Old School Graphics - the same graphics you fell in love with in 2001
-Killer Line Up - harcore games like Cooking Mama and Nintendogs
-Motion Sensitivty - because 95% of non-sports games are UNPLAYABLE without it!
-Stereo Sound - the BEST in sound output
-Rare Voice Support - reading text is killer hardcore.
-Difficult Games - in Sonic and the Secret rings there are multiple paths. Thinking abounds!
-Mario - nothing is more hardcore than a chubby plumber in overalls who pops shrooms
-Best Audience - 75% of Wii owners are kids under 14 and women over 40, the untapped killer hardcore audience!
-First Party Only - every knows third parties *never* produce hardcore games. Castlevania? more like n00bvania!

If you cannot see how utterly "owned" you are, and that the Wii is the most hardcore system ever, and continue to insist that titles like Geometry Wars, Ikaruga, Eternal Darkness, Odin Sphere, and Disgaea are more "hardcore" games, you are clearly a fanboy, or y'know, not blind. Stab out your eyes and join the revolution!
beldugo

that is true though. lol if you can put up with all of that then your a hardcore gamer.

Hitting yourself "hard" in the head and being a hardcore gamer are two different things. You'd have to have a "hardcore" case of head trauma to buy into a system with *one* game (Metroid Prime 3) aimed at an audience that was beating Contra at the age of five. 

I wasn't aware Mario Galaxy and Brawl we're hardcore. You can call me a "fanboy" if you like, though the only thing I'm a fan of is pushing games for art. You let me know when Nintendo stops half-assing it, ok?

He asked me to prove the Wii is hardcore, and I did the best I could to do so. There's nothing hardcore about your system, it has been commodized to the point where my grandmother isn't confused or threatened by it - and yet everyday I have to listen to the rants about sales and how the Wii is a revolution because - get this - you control the games by moving your hands!

Metroid Prime 3 is the closest thing you get to a core game on the Wii - it's about gameplay by the way (the thing you Nintendo fanboys rant about) and not violence - games like Godfather DO NOT appeal to a hardcore audience. You will never see a title like Odin Sphere on the Wii, and you'll never see a title like Eternal Darkness on a Nintendo console ever again. The Wii is many things to many people, but the one thing it is not, and will never be, is hardcore.

subrosian

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Have a nice day.

Wii is an awesome system.
Flipnblack

That isn't an announcement, that's them thinking about what they could do to advance the game

EDIT: But I was just joking anyways... so yeah, there's no need for this

I'm just playing too... I would not take me too seriously. Read my posts in small dosages, use as directed, side effects such as vomitting, nausea, and the painful realization that your fervent brand loyalty is misplaced are common. Contact your doctor if you have difficulty breathing, or suddenly begin bleeding out of your eyes.

There's no way to seriously defend the Wii as a hardcore system, it's an exercise in futility. You're taking a product ultimately aimed at kids / families / casuals / non-gamers and saying "show me the games that are aimed at someone who's been gaming day-in-day-out for twenty years" - you just can't do it. The Wii isn't aimed at the audience, it doesn't have the kind of perfectly executed, deep, complex, difficult gameplay that audience demands.

[QUOTE="subrosian"]I wasn't aware Mario Galaxy and Brawl we're hardcore. You can call me a "fanboy" if you like, though the only thing I'm a fan of is pushing games for art. You let me know when Nintendo stops half-assing it, ok?

He asked me to prove the Wii is hardcore, and I did the best I could to do so. There's nothing hardcore about your system, it has been commodized to the point where my grandmother isn't confused or threatened by it - and yet everyday I have to listen to the rants about sales and how the Wii is a revolution because - get this - you control the games by moving your hands!

Metroid Prime 3 is the closest thing you get to a core game on the Wii - it's about gameplay by the way (the thing you Nintendo fanboys rant about) and not violence - games like Godfather DO NOT appeal to a hardcore audience. You will never see a title like Odin Sphere on the Wii, and you'll never see a title like Eternal Darkness on a Nintendo console ever again. The Wii is many things to many people, but the one thing it is not, and will never be, is hardcore.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Flipnblack"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Have a nice day.

Wii is an awesome system.
subrosian

That isn't an announcement, that's them thinking about what they could do to advance the game

EDIT: But I was just joking anyways... so yeah, there's no need for this

I'm just playing too... I would not take me too seriously. Read my posts in small dosages, use as directed, side effects such as vomitting, nausea, and the painful realization that your fervent brand loyalty is misplaced are common. Contact your doctor if you have difficulty breathing, or suddenly begin bleeding out of your eyes.

There's no way to seriusly defend the Wii as a hardcore system, it's an exercise in futility. You're taking a product ultimately aimed at kids / families / non-gamers and saying "show me the games that are aimed at someone who's been gaming day-in-day-out for twenty years" - you just can't do it. The Wii isn't aimed at the audience, it doesn't have the kind of perfectly executed, deep, complex, difficult gameplay that audience demands.

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Flipnblack"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Have a nice day.

Wii is an awesome system.
Shinobishyguy

That isn't an announcement, that's them thinking about what they could do to advance the game

EDIT: But I was just joking anyways... so yeah, there's no need for this

I'm just playing too... I would not take me too seriously. Read my posts in small dosages, use as directed, side effects such as vomitting, nausea, and the painful realization that your fervent brand loyalty is misplaced are common. Contact your doctor if you have difficulty breathing, or suddenly begin bleeding out of your eyes.

There's no way to seriusly defend the Wii as a hardcore system, it's an exercise in futility. You're taking a product ultimately aimed at kids / families / non-gamers and saying "show me the games that are aimed at someone who's been gaming day-in-day-out for twenty years" - you just can't do it. The Wii isn't aimed at the audience, it doesn't have the kind of perfectly executed, deep, complex, difficult gameplay that audience demands.

Xbox 360 does an amazing job - and don't compare me to someone who wants games to be literature - Gears of War, Project Gotham Racing 3, and Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter have all impressed me this generation. Just because I don't want to be saddled to the same games I played when I was eight, read text boxes when voice was added to most games last generation, deal with SD graphics, and listen to stereo sound when I should have surround, doesn't mean that I don't like gaming at all.

The Wii isn't hardcore, it pushes gaming in the worst possible direction - away from progress in graphics and sound - and towards being a mainstream consumer commodity for my grandmother.

*Holds a kitten over a tenderizer*

Buy a Wii... 

is anything i say gunna make you want a wii really

 smash bros brawl???????

 sounds like ur a closet hater but trying very hard not to be one if that makes any sence

is anything i say gunna make you want a wii really

smash bros brawl???????

sounds like ur a closet hater but trying very hard not to be one if that makes any sence

beerm_basic

You have to play it to know why to get it. Everyone I have ever played with on my Wii has wanted one.Firelore29

He's played the Wii. I've played the Wii too. The initial play makes you go "wow, this is great, I want to get one" - every play after that diminishes it - and once you're bored of Wii Sports (I've put in fifteen hours or so, but I was getting bored after the first ten) the other games on the system offer nothing. Wii Play doesn't reinvigorate your interest in it, and Twilight Princess is honestly a bit of a let down.

Anyhow, he asked how the Wii is hardcore - what games does the Wii offer the hardcore player? "You have to play it", "there's no such thing as hardcore", "I'm gonna make up my own non-sensical definition of hardcore", and "there's nothing I can say".

All of this is dodging around the one thing Nintendo fanboys WON'T admit (or rarely - I have a few threads where I've proded enough to get them to admit this) - the Wii is NOT a hardcore system, it has a severe lack of hardcore games, it never will be a hardcore sytsem by its very audience, and ultimately Nintendo fans should simply admit this, stop with the "bu...bu...but it's about fun" excuses, and simply acknowledge that for most longtime gamers, the Wii *isn't* the best choice. 

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]You have to play it to know why to get it. Everyone I have ever played with on my Wii has wanted one.subrosian

He's played the Wii. I've played the Wii too. The initial play makes you go "wow, this is great, I want to get one" - every play after that diminishes it - and once you're bored of Wii Sports (I've put in fifteen hours or so, but I was getting bored after the first ten) the other games on the system offer nothing. Wii Play doesn't reinvigorate your interest in it, and Twilight Princess is honestly a bit of a let down.

Anyhow, he asked how the Wii is hardcore - what games does the Wii offer the hardcore player? "You have to play it", "there's no such thing as hardcore", "I'm gonna make up my own non-sensical definition of hardcore", and "there's nothing I can say".

All of this is dodging around the one thing Nintendo fanboys WON'T admit (or rarely - I have a few threads where I've proded enough to get them to admit this) - the Wii is NOT a hardcore system, it has a severe lack of hardcore games, it never will be a hardcore sytsem by its very audience, and ultimately Nintendo fans should simply admit this, stop with the "bu...bu...but it's about fun" excuses, and simply acknowledge that for most longtime gamers, the Wii *isn't* the best choice. 

Having a Wii makes you a man.Flipnblack

im using this as my sig. awesomeness.

SuperMechaKirby... lolz... clearly the name of a LEMMING! Seriously, don't come here with a lemming name, a robot (clearly MASTER CHIEF, Halo loving NOOBLET) in your sig and expect us to take you seriously.

subrosian

what does bender have to do with being a lemming?

and I have always been a shemming, just losing my sheepness more and more.... I dont wanna lose it, I wanna love nintendo but the choices they made about the wii upset me 

[QUOTE="subrosian"]SuperMechaKirby... lolz... clearly the name of a LEMMING! Seriously, don't come here with a lemming name, a robot (clearly MASTER CHIEF, Halo loving NOOBLET) in your sig and expect us to take you seriously.

supermechakirby

what does bender have to do with being a lemming?

and I have always been a shemming, just losing my sheepness more and more.... I dont wanna lose it, I wanna love nintendo but the choices they made about the wii upset me 

Having a Wii makes you a man.Flipnblack

agreed...cant be a man without a Wii!