Makes me Sad how Nintendo have lost there touch

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Killer_Wuggles"]Yeah, okay, I made a slight typo. Sue me.

And I do like Nintendo games the most, I'm not hating or anything, but most consumers prefer nitty-gritty action games with tons of gore compared to Mario or Zelda.

Killer_Wuggles

That's funny, because everyone I've talked to at school or elsewhere prefers Grand Theft Auto and Gears of War over Mario and Zelda. 

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="Killer_Wuggles"]I think they've gone downhill mainly because of their new-found market strategy to deploy innovative, new ideas... Which can sometimes be a good thing, as we've seen with the DS and the Wii, but can definitely be a very, very bad idea with the Power Glove and Virtual Boy. Also, most of their games are not very mature, so the current market turns more to the PS3 and 360.Killer_Wuggles

Then if your definition of downhill is the success of the Wii and DS, sure it is going downhill.

As for the mature content, it's there: Metroid, Zelda, No More Heroes, Final Fantasy, Manhunt, Godfather, Red Steel, Disaster, Hammer...

Yeah, okay, I made a slight typo.  Sue me.

And I do like Nintendo games the most, I'm not hating or anything, but most consumers prefer nitty-gritty action games with tons of gore compared to Mario or Zelda. 

Console sales would seem to disagree with you

That's funny, because everyone I've talked to at school or elsewhere prefers Grand Theft Auto and Gears of War over Mario and Zelda. Killer_Wuggles

[QUOTE="Killer_Wuggles"]That's funny, because everyone I've talked to at school or elsewhere prefers Grand Theft Auto and Gears of War over Mario and Zelda. foxhound_fox

If you look back in the day, Nintendo were a strong company, had some insane and fun games...expecially in the Snes/N64 era...but since the cube they have gone down hill, IMO. When i say downhill i mean concerning games. These days its nothing more then fancy anime games/mario and a very few decent titles like metroid prime, Zelda, Mario..etc etc. What happen to all the violent games and in fun games in general???

Nintendo treat violent games like poison, They seem to rely on nothing but mario/Zelda/MP....wheres all the great 3rd party support?? and why do all the wii games seem rushed, just to add the new controls? Yes its still early...but its best to start early..and knowing there track record with the cube, it has me worried. Its like nintendo don't care or something...and as if gamers wil eat up anything they throw to them. 

Of course the wii is popular, the new controls and gameplay method introduced has that effect and usually have many buying it at the beginning and it seems fun...but seriouslly, how long will that last..if decent software isn't coming out??? I hope nintendo does something about this and not rely too much on there few good 1st party titles. I really want more games taking advantage of the controls..something i think MP3 will do, but thats one game..and why arn't devs getting better graphics out of it? 

 

Your thoughts??? 

-Maddog-

If you look back in the day, Nintendo were a strong company, had some insane and fun games...expecially in the Snes/N64 era...but since the cube they have gone down hill, IMO. When i say downhill i mean concerning games. These days its nothing more then fancy anime games/mario and a very few decent titles like metroid prime, Zelda, Mario..etc etc. What happen to all the violent games and in fun games in general???

Nintendo treat violent games like poison, They seem to rely on nothing but mario/Zelda/MP....wheres all the great 3rd party support?? and why do all the wii games seem rushed, just to add the new controls? Yes its still early...but its best to start early..and knowing there track record with the cube, it has me worried. Its like nintendo don't care or something...and as if gamers wil eat up anything they throw to them.

Of course the wii is popular, the new controls and gameplay method introduced has that effect and usually have many buying it at the beginning and it seems fun...but seriouslly, how long will that last..if decent software isn't coming out??? I hope nintendo does something about this and not rely too much on there few good 1st party titles. I really want more games taking advantage of the controls..something i think MP3 will do, but thats one game..and why arn't devs getting better graphics out of it?

 

Your thoughts???

-Maddog-

Sell me your wii on ebay then for $20.00! 

I don't think they've lost their touch, rather, the competition has become better. So relatively, they don't seem to be creating groudbreaking games of the previoud calibre.

I agree that 3rd party really didn't do anything in the previous generation or 2. But it's something that Nintendo seems to be doing a lot better this time round.

And, yes, Nintendo did it again, they've delayed their big titles. But i'm not all that surprised about that. As for the graphics argument (even though this has been used over and over again, it's true), devs were caught by surprise by the Wii. They didn't really have time develop great looking games. Or even Wii ground-up games, this has a lot to do with Nintendo's fault though as they gave the tools out too late.

Pangster007

There's a difference between 3rd parties making good games for your system and making cash-in games for your system. Devloper don't want to develop for the wii, instead take a last gen game and modify controls, even if that game is really good(RE4). Not apparant for all developers but most of them.

Since when is Metroid Prime and Zelda not violent? Lasden

since gears of war or even RE4 or mgs2 and up....

Nintendo lost it's touch since N64.     Nintendo always claims it all about the games and always wanted to introudced games to everybody. But the problem was that Nintendo only focused was its on 1st party games. PS1 and PS2 did the job of expanding games and made video games a force in the entertainment. Dont be fooled by the wii as the N64 and GC both started big and ended up last.

Nintendo lost it's touch since N64.     Nintendo always claims it all about the games and always wanted to introudced games to everybody. But the problem was that Nintendo only focused was its on 1st party games. PS1 and PS2 did the job of expanding games and made video games a force in the entertainment. Dont be fooled by the wii as the N64 and GC both started big and ended up last.

PSP107

GC NEVER sold this well for this long.

Nintendo lost it's touch since N64.     Nintendo always claims it all about the games and always wanted to introudced games to everybody. But the problem was that Nintendo only focused was its on 1st party games. PS1 and PS2 did the job of expanding games and made video games a force in the entertainment. Dont be fooled by the wii as the N64 and GC both started big and ended up last.

 

PSP107

Yuck!!! He reeks of fanboyism and he doesn't even know what he is talking about

[QUOTE="PSP107"]

Nintendo lost it's touch since N64.     Nintendo always claims it all about the games and always wanted to introudced games to everybody. But the problem was that Nintendo only focused was its on 1st party games. PS1 and PS2 did the job of expanding games and made video games a force in the entertainment. Dont be fooled by the wii as the N64 and GC both started big and ended up last.

Jandurin

GC NEVER sold this well for this long.

GC got off to a good start but eventually xbox took its place.

[QUOTE="PSP107"]

Nintendo lost it's touch since N64.     Nintendo always claims it all about the games and always wanted to introudced games to everybody. But the problem was that Nintendo only focused was its on 1st party games. PS1 and PS2 did the job of expanding games and made video games a force in the entertainment. Dont be fooled by the wii as the N64 and GC both started big and ended up last.

 

FireEmblem_Man

Yuck!!! He reeks of fanboyism and he doesn't even know what he is talking about

Just how is that fanyboyism?   Let me guess NIntendo was the reason games are what it is today?

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

GC NEVER sold this well for this long.

PSP107

GC got off to a good start but eventually xbox took its place.

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

GC NEVER sold this well for this long.

Jandurin

GC got off to a good start but eventually xbox took its place.

It didnt have a great start in japan?     

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

GC NEVER sold this well for this long.

PSP107

GC got off to a good start but eventually xbox took its place.

It didnt have a great start in japan?     

http://vgchartz.com/japconscomps.php?name1=Wii&name2=GC&type=0&align=0

Sold half as many in the same amount of time.

Nintendo lost it's touch since N64.     Nintendo always claims it all about the games and always wanted to introudced games to everybody. But the problem was that Nintendo only focused was its on 1st party games. PS1 and PS2 did the job of expanding games and made video games a force in the entertainment. Dont be fooled by the wii as the N64 and GC both started big and ended up last.

 

PSP107

[QUOTE="PSP107"]

Nintendo lost it's touch since N64.     Nintendo always claims it all about the games and always wanted to introudced games to everybody. But the problem was that Nintendo only focused was its on 1st party games. PS1 and PS2 did the job of expanding games and made video games a force in the entertainment. Dont be fooled by the wii as the N64 and GC both started big and ended up last.

 

Rahnyc4

Well in SOny's case, they still will have 3rd party games.  They need thier 1st party games to seperate it from 360.

Makes me Sad how Nintendo have lost there-Maddog-

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"][QUOTE="PSP107"]

Nintendo lost it's touch since N64.     Nintendo always claims it all about the games and always wanted to introudced games to everybody. But the problem was that Nintendo only focused was its on 1st party games. PS1 and PS2 did the job of expanding games and made video games a force in the entertainment. Dont be fooled by the wii as the N64 and GC both started big and ended up last.

 

PSP107

Yuck!!! He reeks of fanboyism and he doesn't even know what he is talking about

Just how is that fanyboyism?   Let me guess NIntendo was the reason games are what it is today?

Actually, if you think about it, there wouldn't be any 3D free roaming games without Mario 64 which helped make ideas for sandbox games and all other 3D platforming games!!! Thats one of the reasons I can give to you!!!

If you look back in the day, Nintendo were a strong company, had some insane and fun games...expecially in the Snes/N64 era...but since the cube they have gone down hill, IMO. When i say downhill i mean concerning games. These days its nothing more then fancy anime games/mario and a very few decent titles like metroid prime, Zelda, Mario..etc etc. What happen to all the violent games and in fun games in general???

Nintendo treat violent games like poison, They seem to rely on nothing but mario/Zelda/MP....wheres all the great 3rd party support?? and why do all the wii games seem rushed, just to add the new controls? Yes its still early...but its best to start early..and knowing there track record with the cube, it has me worried. Its like nintendo don't care or something...and as if gamers wil eat up anything they throw to them.

Of course the wii is popular, the new controls and gameplay method introduced has that effect and usually have many buying it at the beginning and it seems fun...but seriouslly, how long will that last..if decent software isn't coming out??? I hope nintendo does something about this and not rely too much on there few good 1st party titles. I really want more games taking advantage of the controls..something i think MP3 will do, but thats one game..and why arn't devs getting better graphics out of it?

 

Your thoughts???

-Maddog-

You do know that last gen Nintendo published at least 2 M rated games. Eternal Darkness, and Giest. They might have publised The Twin Snakes as well...