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#1 ravinshield
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oblivion...4.6gb required

sony may cry 4...4.7gb-20 min install

full auto 2...1.7gb required

spider man 3...2.3gb-five min install

hot shot golf...5gb-five min install

skate...2.5gb--five min install

wwe smackdown vs raw 2008....2.3gb required

F.E.A.R...2.5gb required

NBA 07....3gb-ten min install

lost....3.6gb---six minute install

conflict denied ops...2.5gb required

beowulf---2.5gb---five minute install

GT prologue--5349MB..13 minutes install

Quake wars=4.1 GB install

NOW GTA 4...5 min install.

Thats more than 45 GIGS.WOW.hope you didnt buy a 40 gig. it looks like some people will have to upgrade their harddrives.

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#2 soulfinger
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Even demos have to be installed. Only had my PS3 a few days but can't believe I've had to install GT5 and demos.(and yes I only have the 40 GB version)
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#3 TheRealMC01
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yeah i'd rather have a few loading screens.
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#4 Unforgiven2870
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umm Sony may cry?lmao
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#5 Hewkii
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Even demos have to be installed. soulfinger

...how else would you play them?

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#6 jangojay
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oblivion...4.6gb required

sony may cry 4...4.7gb-20 min install

hot shot golf...5gb-five min install

NBA 07....3gb-ten min install

GT prologue--5349MB..13 minutes install

NOW GTA 4...5 min install.

Thats more than 45 GIGS.WOW.hope you didnt buy a 40 gig. it looks like some people will have to upgrade their harddrives.

ravinshield

Fixed with the games most people might actually want

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#7 strudel420
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Almost all of those games stink. Who'd waste their HD space by not deleting Lost 5 seconds after they were done with it?

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#8 jessie5788
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im a ps3 owner and its not hurting me or my ps3 when actual ps3 owners complain then its a problem but seeing how lems are the only ones complaining and they don't have a ps3, its not a big deal.
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#11 Unforgiven2870
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I didn't know people played Sony May cry :P
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#12 TheRealMC01
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[QUOTE="ravinshield"]

oblivion...4.6gb required

sony may cry 4...4.7gb-20 min install

hot shot golf...5gb-five min install

NBA 07....3gb-ten min install

GT prologue--5349MB..13 minutes install

NOW GTA 4...5 min install.

Thats more than 45 GIGS.WOW.hope you didnt buy a 40 gig. it looks like some people will have to upgrade their harddrives.

jangojay

Fixed with the games most people might actually want

yeah you're right. it's not like anyone would want anymore ps3 games in the future. :roll:

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#13 hip-hop-cola2
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lol, now i consider my self to like games quite alot, im even considering a career as a dev... BUT SRsLY!! who needs to play more that 10 games at one!... this is just a small problem! every console in history has had those little things which are irritating, this is the ps3's. if you NEED to be able to play every game you own at ANY time, then yes, this is terrible

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#14 jessie5788
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[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="ravinshield"]

oblivion...4.6gb required

sony may cry 4...4.7gb-20 min install

hot shot golf...5gb-five min install

NBA 07....3gb-ten min install

GT prologue--5349MB..13 minutes install

NOW GTA 4...5 min install.

Thats more than 45 GIGS.WOW.hope you didnt buy a 40 gig. it looks like some people will have to upgrade their harddrives.

TheRealMC01

Fixed with the games most people might actually want

yeah you're right. it's not like anyone would want anymore ps3 games in the future. :roll:

then delete it when its done or buy a new harddrive. its not hard

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yeah you're right. it's not like anyone would want anymore ps3 games in the future. :roll:

TheRealMC01

yeah, Beowolf is supposed to be a real system seller.

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It's not as bad as people are making it seem. Who actually keeps every game they play installed after they beat it.

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#17 niall077
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arent most of games better on ps3 because of the install? DMC4, oblivion.

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#18 hayato_
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TEH HORROR................:roll:

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#19 lolkie_81
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It's not as bad as people are making it seem. Who actually keeps every game they play installed after they beat it.

Flamestos

Up until now people didnt install there "console" games. There was need to keep them installed just put the disk back in when you want to play. Who wants to install everytime you get a wild hair to play a old game? Its not the end of the world but annoying if nothing else.

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#20 AlphaRail
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I think this is just an over exaggerated problem, you can't tell me that you are going to buy all of those games in the first place?? Also, I believe a ton of people would just delete the memory once they are done with the game or demo.
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#21 soulfinger
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[QUOTE="soulfinger"]Even demos have to be installed. Hewkii

...how else would you play them?

Well you download the demo then have to install it after downloading. On the 360 once you've downloaded you're ready to go. Much better way.

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#22 nicenator
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it can be pretty bad (ive filled a 60GB), but then again, thats the beauty of having a replaceable HDD from any manufacturer. Just spent £40 on a 2.5" 160GB drive, and i shouldnt run out of space again for a long while :)

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#23 jessie5788
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arent most of games better on ps3 because of the install? DMC4, oblivion.

niall077

most people tend to ignore this fact and like to show it as bad.

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#24 NAPK1NS
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I... don't even notice it. I have a 60 GB, and I can hold everything I want and a whole lot more.
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#25 dream431ca
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There is a hard drive in the PS3 FOR A REASON!!

At least they are using the hard drive for games to cut down on load times.

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#26 Lazy_Boy88
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Even demos have to be installed. Only had my PS3 a few days but can't believe I've had to install GT5 and demos.(and yes I only have the 40 GB version) soulfinger

Duh a demo has to be installed. Same thing on 360. Would you be streaming it from the internet or something?

And people you can delete this data when you're not playing the game. Game saves are separate files. No need to keep stuff installed of games you aren't playing.

I don't mind installs at all if they only take a couple minutes because it does help streaming and loading. DMC4's was just unacceptable though. Oblivions was the best because it just cached data in the background as you played to make areas load faster.

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#27 Blackbond
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People need to stop whining and just go out and buy a bigger HDD. What did you think the console was gonna be future proof or something?
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#28 clintos59
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oblivion...4.6gb required

sony may cry 4...4.7gb-20 min install

full auto 2...1.7gb required

spider man 3...2.3gb-five min install

hot shot golf...5gb-five min install

skate...2.5gb--five min install

wwe smackdown vs raw 2008....2.3gb required

F.E.A.R...2.5gb required

NBA 07....3gb-ten min install

lost....3.6gb---six minute install

conflict denied ops...2.5gb required

beowulf---2.5gb---five minute install

GT prologue--5349MB..13 minutes install

Quake wars=4.1 GB install

NOW GTA 4...5 min install.

Thats more than 45 GIGS.WOW.hope you didnt buy a 40 gig. it looks like some people will have to upgrade their harddrives.

ravinshield

Let me put it this way from some1 who owns all 3 systems.

1. The ps3 was expensive and had no games at the time but I bought it because I knew games would eventually come to it, and I would have me a next gen bluray drive in it and also play my games online free. Do these installs bother me? No because it is nothing major and besides if u need more space the ps3 has the luxury of upgrading your hdd.

2. The 360 was a tough choice at first but no one can deny that it had games that u wanted to play on it, and did RROD stop me from buying it? It might have made me wait but I still had to buy it because of some of the games I wanted were never going to be on the ps3.

3. The wii was an easy choice for me to get but was very hard to find one to begin with. I have always loved mario, metroid and zelda games and no matter how old those franchises will be, I can never get enough of them just like how I love the mgs series. Also because the wii mote just takes games to another playing field and makes it different then the ps3 and 360 which is why I bought it. So because people call the wii kiddy, did that stop me from getting one? No because those are kiddy games I grew up on and is a big reason I am still in love with games today.

THE END.

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and how many of those games are actually good...about 4 at the most. I think you are forgetting ps3 owners have at least 40gigs worth of space, but Im sure most people bought the 80g. Plus having a laptop harddrive of 180gs is pure win at a low price. It seems like all the games that need it are the ones made by bad devs; That is the simple answer...just be thankful 360 doesnt need them because you guys would be out of space in about 3 games with that 13g(isnt it supposed to be 20) drive that comes with 360.

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#30 dream431ca
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and how many of those games are actually good...about 4 at the most. I think you are forgetting ps3 owners have at least 40gigs worth of space, but Im sure most people bought the 80g. Plus having a laptop harddrive of 180gs is pure win at a low price. It seems like all the games that need it are the ones made by bad devs; That is the simple answer...just be thankful 360 doesnt need them because you guys would be out of space in about 3 games with that 13g(isnt it supposed to be 20) drive that comes with 360.

mccoyca112

The Xbox 360 doesn't use the hard drive for 360 games, except for saving. (Most of them anyway)

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#31 Tjeremiah1988
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It's not as bad as people are making it seem. Who actually keeps every game they play installed after they beat it.

Flamestos

many, but u may find that hard to believe.

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#32 Tiefster
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I only have one of those games. Why should I care?
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#33 hiryu3
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and upgrading your harddrive which is supported by SOny is a bad thing how? Especially with decent harddrive prices unlike the joke of a harddrive upgrade for the 360
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#34 VendettaRed07
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im calling killzone 2 is gonna be like a 13 gb install lol
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#35 mccoyca112
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[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

and how many of those games are actually good...about 4 at the most. I think you are forgetting ps3 owners have at least 40gigs worth of space, but Im sure most people bought the 80g. Plus having a laptop harddrive of 180gs is pure win at a low price. It seems like all the games that need it are the ones made by bad devs; That is the simple answer...just be thankful 360 doesnt need them because you guys would be out of space in about 3 games with that 13g(isnt it supposed to be 20) drive that comes with 360.

dream431ca

The Xbox 360 doesn't use the hard drive for 360 games, except for saving. (Most of them anyway)

State the obvious more please...lol i kid, but seriously, I know

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#36 MaximumD
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I don't mind the game installs. It doesn't bother me at all. My TV is setup to my PC, PS3, and X-box 360. All I gotta do is switch the input while my PS3 is installing a game. I don't see why people are blowing this out of purportion. We do this with PC games since day 1. It provides better loading time and I rather deal with that then swapping 4 discs just to play an RPG and 1 disc dies, game is useless.

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#37 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

and how many of those games are actually good...about 4 at the most. I think you are forgetting ps3 owners have at least 40gigs worth of space, but Im sure most people bought the 80g. Plus having a laptop harddrive of 180gs is pure win at a low price. It seems like all the games that need it are the ones made by bad devs; That is the simple answer...just be thankful 360 doesnt need them because you guys would be out of space in about 3 games with that 13g(isnt it supposed to be 20) drive that comes with 360.

mccoyca112

The Xbox 360 doesn't use the hard drive for 360 games, except for saving. (Most of them anyway)

State the obvious more please...lol i kid, but seriously, I know

Ya, but wouldn't that of helped Mass Effect especially? I mean if you could install part of the game to the hard drive, we probably would have never seen all those bugs (or if we did, it would be in a split second)

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#38 GazzaB
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Yeah, it is annoying. But nothing serious and in cases like Oblivion where you can really tell the difference (comparing it to the 360 version with no install) im all for it.
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#39 mccoyca112
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[QUOTE="mccoyca112"][QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

and how many of those games are actually good...about 4 at the most. I think you are forgetting ps3 owners have at least 40gigs worth of space, but Im sure most people bought the 80g. Plus having a laptop harddrive of 180gs is pure win at a low price. It seems like all the games that need it are the ones made by bad devs; That is the simple answer...just be thankful 360 doesnt need them because you guys would be out of space in about 3 games with that 13g(isnt it supposed to be 20) drive that comes with 360.

dream431ca

The Xbox 360 doesn't use the hard drive for 360 games, except for saving. (Most of them anyway)

State the obvious more please...lol i kid, but seriously, I know

Ya, but wouldn't that of helped Mass Effect especially? I mean if you could install part of the game to the hard drive, we probably would have never seen all those bugs (or if we did, it would be in a split second)

Indeed it would. Installs really aint that bad unless you get the ones that are like 20 minutes...then its like:roll:

But space for ps3 aint an issue. Im sure if they patch mass effect though, then it would be fine

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#40 MarioJP_
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In otherwords Consoles are playing the catchup game lol.
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#41 whodeysay85
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As a ps3 only owner, it is a little frustrating. I have the 60 gig and currently have plenty of space. I like to keep most of the games that I purchase. I'm a little concerned since some of my games, Oblivion, DMC, feature these installs. By the way i think NGS has a install as well...i didn't see it on the list if it was.
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#42 Ragashahs
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notice how the majority of those games are bad? i mean most games that are made well for PS3 don't need that big of an install and when was GTA announced that it needed to be installed?
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#43 CossackNoodle
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lol @ thread. Mandatory installs are killing nothing. You would have to be very weird to own every game that needed one (they are the minority). And you would have to have some weird condition where you cant handle deleting things and making space for it to affect you.

And the fact you can buy a nice cheap easy to install hdd if need be that option is there.

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#44 MarioJP_
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Consoles are playing the catch up game lol. PC gamers been doing this since day 1. Only thing changed now is we now the availability of 750GB drives and add more than one and even configure both of them in raid0 so to have total of 1.5TB. I could careless how much games i have on my hard drive especially with those capacities =)
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#45 NWA_31
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I'd rather have it install for 20 minutes, then do something else in the meantime then have a 30 seconds loading screen every once in a while. :|
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#46 leonhead
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Yeah, i'd hate to have installs that take so much space. but how long do they usually take? if its quick, doesn't really matter
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#47 jtickner
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I seriously don't know why people ****, moan and winge about this so much.

1. You CAN upgrade the PS3 HDD if you want to

2. You CAN delete the installed game data if you stop playing the game

I read in some thread around here before I hired GT 5: P that the install takes 20 minutes, 30 mintues and even 2 hours I read someone cry about. Well GT 5: P took a whopping 5 minutes for me and since I am no longer in possesion of the game guess what? I can go ahead and delete the data it installed :o oh my, shock horror! All the precious HDD space is back for me to use.

Mandatory installs killing the PS3 -- I doubt it.

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#48 useLOGIC
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pretty sure ive played most of the games, yet have 29/40 free gigs on my ps3.

miraculous! Why do you ask?

i delete games when im done.

stop picking straws.

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#49 Egghead360
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Kind of kills the purpose of console gaming, you know plu-n-play

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#50 earthmonkeyyy
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Exactly. Who wants to ahve to deal with all this extra stuff.